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I know there's some mention of GPS lock problems etc... around the various threads, but I wanted to create one to pull together people's experience of the various Sat Nav programs that are available and how they run on the TP2.
I've got TT7 installed (used to run it on my TyTNII), and it all works fine, gets a lock quickly, but the lag is REALLY bad on it. It's constantly a good 20-30 metres behind where I am (used to be may 5 metres tops on the TyTNII).
What have people found with other programs such as CPL etc... Is the problem with TT7, or is it with the TP2?
iGo 8
Hi there,
I had iGo 8 working perfectly on the Kaiser/TYTN II but I cant even get it to start in the TP2, does anyone have any ideas?
I can load the software on but when I launch it just goes back to the home page :-(
hello,
for my tp2 the igo8 works absolutely great
iG0 8
May I ask how you installed it?, did you just go to the 2577 folder and click Autorun?, or did you install from a disk?
Hi MegaHz,
Would you be able to tell me how you installed it please?, I need iGo 8 for work and it would be really useful to have it on this phone, it's awesome!
Thank you
I have run CPL6 (I don't have later versions). It runs in perfect WVGA with no issues at all ... inc GPS reception.
Paul.
Co Pilot 7
They're selling Co Pilot 7 with the Touch Pro 2 on Handtec.co.uk so that must be compatible, if I cant get iGo 8 to work I may have the purchase this instead :-(
Does anyone have any comparison of the two?, which do you guys prefer?
Ive got TTN7 Installed on mine and it works perfectly, no lag at all.
A very cool new feature is if you have a BT car kit you can set all system sounds etc to come through the car kit so TomTom now comes through my speakers in the car.
Excellent.
Hmmnnnn, not good then, I wonder if my TP2 gps chipset is knackered?
Whats it like in Google Maps if you zoom right in? Is it somewhere near where you actually are?
Mine is almost perfect, shockingly good.
I'll check later when I can get out of the office
my google maps is way out it thinks im actually in the village.
i think that maybe my issue is not accuracy, but refresh rate? when stationary, it picks out my location well (although tom tom can still jump about a bit then) but google maps gets me for sure. when moving, they both often lose themselves for a bit before coming back to the right location.
do i need to set up the baud rate manually or something to get data back to the apps quicker? tom tom was much faster in my tytnII.
I'm thinking of buying a TP2 but the GPS lag problem from the first TP is a real concern. Can any Igo8 users on the TP2 confirm whether there is any discernible lag at normal driving speeds? Also, how long does it take to get a fix in open outdoor conditions?
I've been using an Eten Glofish M700 for the last couple of years and it has an exceptional Sirf III GPS receiver (fixes within a minute, and no lag at all). I want a new phone but don't want to take a backward step with GPS performance.
I am running TT 7.915 and While it manages to keep my location fine, it doesn't update it for about 2-3 seconds, which can mean I get lost on big roundabouts!
I had this on my TyTNII....
If you just get lag, that could be a couple of things - what class is your sd card (I upgraded to a class 6 card and it ran a lot better), and do you have loads of POIs (disabling POIs also increases the refresh rate a lot).
From reading around, it seems that TT7 just isn't particulalry compatible with the TP2 (the problem being, TT 7 was only officially released for one or two specific PPC devices so I've no doubt if you tell them it won't run on the TP2, they'll say that it was never meant to!).
I'm thinking of trying CoPilot Live, but I'm concerned that I may have a GPS issue wince even with Google Maps, it does occasionaly completely lose itself for a few seconds before coming back to my actual location, so I wonder if there's an issue on the phone.
I used to use TTN6. but now cant decide weather to upgrade or go to co pilot. Cant seem to find a comparison of the two
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Whats it like in Google Maps if you zoom right in? Is it somewhere near where you actually are?
Mine is almost perfect, shockingly good.
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yep very acurate had me in my garden and guess what , thats where i was
Using Tt7.915 maps Central and Eastern Europe 825.2159 works fantastic...
itm said:
I'm thinking of buying a TP2 but the GPS lag problem from the first TP is a real concern. Can any Igo8 users on the TP2 confirm whether there is any discernible lag at normal driving speeds? Also, how long does it take to get a fix in open outdoor conditions?
I've been using an Eten Glofish M700 for the last couple of years and it has an exceptional Sirf III GPS receiver (fixes within a minute, and no lag at all). I want a new phone but don't want to take a backward step with GPS performance.
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I use iGO 8.3.2 on TP2. It is a lot better (2 day testing) than TP, which was almost unusable without tweaking. Very small GPS lag (a little lag I think is normal), cold start under 1min. More than happy. Problem solved.
Hi,
i read a lot of posts about getting TomTom 7 to work and how it is not working on the TP2. HTC offers a 15 day trial of Copilot which supposedly works on the TP2. You can check it out at http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=595&news_id=185. I think it could be a nice and working alternative for a full blown navigation system on the TP2. Still better than trying all kinds of dubious fixes and hacks to get TT7 to work. Maybe it's something for you
Jan
What ever - say good bye to TT because of the procedure which you have to do when you change the device
I installed Garmin Mobile XT the other night, works well.
I really like how you can search on a street name and not have to put in the city first like tomtom makes you (so many times i couldnt find where i wanted to goto cause tomtom had it in some weird city)
Anyway, works really well...
Just going to have a look at tweaking it for better response later, as it seemed to pause a second before updating at intersections.
After buying TomTom Navigator 7 retail (on SD card) and finding it wan't install at all on my TP2, tried and finally registered Copilot 7: very happy with it, works fine on TP2 with no GPS delay
I downloaded the trial, and will give it a shot at the weekend.
It`s very wird for me what u all saing. For me Tom Tom ver. 7.19 working with no problem at all. I just bought my tp2, even did`t do hard reset, i did`t do anything, and tom tom works strait after instal it.
We are talking about the retail version of TT7 preinstalled on 4 GB microSD card: it refuses to install on any device that isn't on the official list, like Diamond and Raphael (tried unsuccessfully on TP2 and Xperia X1).
I am using TT6 Navigator (same version that was on my P3300) due to the lack of maps for North America.
I needed to install WVGAFIX3 before I was able to view TT6 correctly though.
I found that Copliot works fine, but can be quite innacurate at times. If I'm driving on a road that's next to a motorway, it can sometimes jump me onto the motorway which I never found with TomTom. The lag is not _too_ bad, but it's still not great, just better tham TT7.
I've just installed a trial for Navigon, and I have to say, it's more polished than CoPilot, and smoother than TT7, although there is still some lag which is REALLY beginning to frustrate me
I found Copilot to be quite inaccurate as well in my recent tests. I am downloading Navigon now and giving it a shot.
Hmm navigon 7 is constantly freezing the device. Which version did you install?
Managed to get it to work with the files provided for the Xperia http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443453. It looks pretty crappy as the graphics have not been adapted to WVGA, but In the end the navigation counts
Its a hellofalot faster than copilot anyways.
Too bad, there is not uninstall capability (copilot live downloaded from HTC support) when you done with the trial. So end up you have to delete the folder manually and not good cause it will stay at your registry.
Luckily I have a full backup before install this.
I use to be a TomTom user and always had problems finding the GPS unit if the GPS hadn’t been previously activated. I use to load either Goggle maps or Live Search, let the program active the GPS unit and then load TomTom, this worked 100% of the time.
I'm now a VERY happy Garmin XT user. No problem with finding the internal GPS unit, fast loading and very quick contact address search.
I did a two day test run with Copilot and Navigon and I found Navigon to be the much better solution. Copilots behaviour was erratic at best, it jumped between cities and even when it worked it was slow as hell and inaccurate. Navigon worked just fine and was fast and accurate as well so I'll stick to that one.
Ah and I had to manually kill Copilot as well as no uninstaller was there.
copilot 6 on touch pro 2
didnt want to start a new thread so i have resurrected this one. does anyone know if copilot 6 will work on the touch pro 2 (WM6.1). looked everywhere online but no answer. it seems i am the only broke dude trying to run such an old program on a shiny new device. (excuse is i,m waiting for copilot 8)
If copilot 6 did work it wouldn't look pretty - I ran my existing CP7 on the TP2 and the higher screen resolution distorted everything - personally having the wrong aspect ratio on things drives me up the wall so I found it pretty distracting.
Kudos to ALK support though, I emailed them asking about an upgrade of CP7 to CP7-HD (which does support the TP2) and they sorted it out for me without charge.
Thanks matey. Wont bother installing then. I didnt want to go through the stress of installing it and finding out it didnt work or look good. I actually bought copilot 7 HD but returned it cos it didnt say HD on the pack. I was also going to download it from ALK,s website but I thought, what the heck its almost 2 years old, Copilot 8 will be released soon so I,ll wait for that.
Cheers
CP7 loaded just fine on my TP2, and works (even in landscape mode), but it's method of telling you the routing is questionable (missed several turns and junctions, really disconcerting, the map's right, just the audio feedback seems stuffed to hell and back), and the less said about it's handling of things like POI and safety camera files from other sources is best left unsaid, or I'll go into foul language mode (seven %*£&%$ notifications after the other for each £%&$%* camera?!)...
I have to find a card adaptor for the next trial, which'll be Navigon...
I have to find a card adaptor for the next trial, which'll be Navigon...
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You don't need a card adaptor per se, I installed it on a usb memory stick and copied it later to the sd card on my TP2.
Had my tp2 for a week or so... one of the first things I did was to try to get google maps working... I DID have it working for about 10 minutes. (locked onto my house). Now it doesn't work anymore. Before listing everything I tried/did, I want to first find out if anyone else has a telus TP2 with their GPS working (without navigator... paying a monthly fee for GPS is ridiculous). And if anyone can fast track me to the one or 2 things that need to be done (so I can bypass the long list of things that don't make any difference). Thanks in advance.
Ryan.
I have my GPS working although I have had it stop working. However a call to support (611) got it going again. The had me start navigator (the only supported app) and then I got him to credit me for the charges for Navigator, so it was a no charge fix. Navigator seemed to initialize something that got it working again. I use iGo 8 which I bought for $20 and it does everything that Navigator does with no further cost.
Hey with my stock Telus rom and 6.1 I had to jump through many many hoops and tweaks to get it working nicely in north america. Eventually I got it locking fairly quickly and reliably, but it would act up on occasion.
Definitely install QuickGPS at the very least and google some tweaks involving disabling gps logging.
HOWEVER... I've been using Juicy's R3 now R8 roms and I have to say I'm blown away by how fast I get to 10+ sats locked in ANY program. Google maps, TOMtom, whatever. Its less than 10 secs every time. I'm sure his roms just included tweaks I never found or implemented correctly or something.
Anyway, after using sense UI 2.5 - I'll never go back. Even with the couple of extra little bugs it introduces. Nothing show-stopping and you trade up to excellent GPS, new features, better options.
I haven't had my Desire that long and besides some strange Exchange issues and GPS issues I love it. The GPS issues that I am experiencing when using Maps are as follows. Initial GPS lock seems to work ok but then it struggles to track where I am going when driving around.
I recently ran a GPS update that was pushed out to my phone but that didn't seem to do anything either. Any suggestions??
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband version: 32.30.00.28U....
Kernel: 2.6.29-3....
Build: 1.16.841.1
Software Number: 1.16.841.1
Browser Version: Webkit 3.1
Cheers
I have previously had an HTC Touch HD, and was using Tomtom on that, which was simply superb! However more recently I have been using an Iphone, and I can confirm that the GPS on that is appalling.
With my new HTC Desire, I am now using CoPilot 8, and the accuracy is unbelievably good compared to the Iphone, and easily on a par to the Touch HD. It's so good, I actually use it over the built in satnav in my car, because the software on my built in unit is so out of date, and Honda want something like £300 to update it. Copilot is under £30 and is absoulutely fantastic.
Can't really comment on Google Maps, as I haven't really used it, I have always found it a little basic, and the voice guidance sounds like a robot...or Android even!
This just using normal google maps? or using google nav??
On google nav, iv used it a fair bit and it has kept up with me every single bit of the way in the car, so no gps issues for me at all.
Just normal google maps I have noticed this in. I haven't tried any sat nav software as yet.
Cheers
Google maps on its own has been pretty poor (well it on its own was never made for turn-by turn navigation).
As per other user use the new Navigation feature on Google Maps (free), that seems to work fine (or is that what you are using already?). Although, I have Co-Pilot as my main GPS nav software.
I had the same issue... we'll actually all Australian delivered Desire's had a GPS issue. HTC and Telstra have since released an update to resolve it which you can get from HTC.com.
If yours isn't a Telstra branded version then head on over to desire.modaco.com or even the Android Development forums here on XDA..root it... and install r1 or r2 of Paul's ROMs (i use r2)... everything works including GPS.
When you download a route in Navigator, the phone caches this and uses very little 3g data whilst driving unless you change your route and it needs new maps.
Does anyone know how long the cached information is available for? At what point does the phone clear the cache? If I download the route, then use the handset for something else before getting in the car, do I have to d/l the route again?
No problems with either GPS or Google Navigation...really good so far..
I’m using Sygic Aura.
Have a few question. I guess they are pretty general:
Can I change voices in some way?
When I try and navigate to a contact, I have to update its position in the program. Is there a way to get it to understand the contact address right away?
When I’m using Sygic Aura and is logged in to their live service I see pictures of certain locations (they appear as icon sized pictures). Can I preview the in a larger format in some way?
Anyone here have a clue?
I'm having problems with mine. The software installs correctly, but cannot get a GPS fix, which keeps flicking on and off so that the map display constantly jumps between active coloured map and greyed out maps when the GPS signal disconnects. I'm using LeeDroid ROM. I have used the same trial on my Desire HD with no problems (also LeeDroid ROM).
Anyone have any ideas what might be the problem? No point buying the software if I can't get it to work...
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I’m using Sygic Aura.
Have a few question. I guess they are pretty general:
Can I change voices in some way?
When I try and navigate to a contact, I have to update its position in the program. Is there a way to get it to understand the contact address right away?
When I’m using Sygic Aura and is logged in to their live service I see pictures of certain locations (they appear as icon sized pictures). Can I preview the in a larger format in some way?
Anyone here have a clue?
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you can change voices in the settings, and navigate to a friends address by using there postcode/zipcode its easer...
nubbin said:
I'm having problems with mine. The software installs correctly, but cannot get a GPS fix, which keeps flicking on and off so that the map display constantly jumps between active coloured map and greyed out maps when the GPS signal disconnects. I'm using LeeDroid ROM. I have used the same trial on my Desire HD with no problems (also LeeDroid ROM).
Anyone have any ideas what might be the problem? No point buying the software if I can't get it to work...
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i had the same problem on my desire, works fine on my DHD though, maybe you should wait a bit longer for a gps fix
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i had the same problem on my desire, works fine on my DHD though, maybe you should wait a bit longer for a gps fix
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That's interesting - it suggests the software is a bit flaky. I left it running whilst I went for a drive, and it did the same for about 40 minutes, and never got a full fix. Worked perfectly on the Desire though. Very strange. I won't be buying the full version at the moment that's for sure!
i got aura fully working on my DHD with fast gps fix
i have read some tips and tricks
install aura apk
reboot
download map
start aura and setup to your needs and likes
reboot
before using it to navigate, let it atleast fix once (stationary) completly
than you should have a fix almost directly(i have, even in my appartment)
Marcus_de_zwarte said:
i got aura fully working on my DHD with fast gps fix
i have read some tips and tricks
install aura apk
reboot
download map
start aura and setup to your needs and likes
reboot
before using it to navigate, let it atleast fix once (stationary) completly
than you should have a fix almost directly(i have, even in my appartment)
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Thanks I'll give it a try
BTW in my original post I should have said the trial works on my Desire, and not on the DHD. However, I have tried the above suggestion, and got the whole thing working. It's interesting that you can download the entire world in maps if you want, for a 7 day trial period. need to drive fast then!
I'm not happy with Sygic Aura at all.
First I really liked it and bought it but there are now 'bugs' introduced which renders this door to door gps software as useless.
Since ver2.1x you do not get arrival time (owww small bug according to the support team)
Last couple of weeks I noticed that in some big streets there is no way to insert a house number, euhm excuse me on a road that is about 10km long in the middle of Brussels, not so funny if you have professional contacts and you have to drive in that jungle staring at house numbers.
I just tried another couple of my other addresses and no house number, just unbelievable.
Tried my colleagues Navigon and tried iGO on my WinMo pda and house numbers everywhere, so software bug.
The support says that they are working on it and that it would just take weeks to solve the 'small bugs'.
At this moment I am so angry that I am going to claim my money back via paypal.
I can't even get it to run.
It was all ok for a while and then I flashed a new rom and it started force closing on me after I reinstalled it.
Can't really be bothered with it since the routing was gimp anyway.
I think Sygic have some work to do...
Latest version of Aura is still way to buggy for everyday use.
It has, in my opinion, the best looking UI of most (maybe all) SatNav apps for Android, but it has some serious flaws when it come to giving directions.
I have previously written a post on my views here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874988
Dazultra and I have also done a SatNav comparison:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902264
Please have a look
I tried Aura on my DHD for some time. Did every tric I could find to get a stable GPS based position, but my location keeps jumping around or is lagging behind for sometimes 30 second.
Driving in the city this is unacceptable. I'm missing turns because Aura thinks I'm still 50-100 meters back.
I installed GPS Status and used it to force a cold boot for my GPS. Put it outside on my gardentable for 1 hour (10 min would have been more than sufficient, but I forgot all about it )
No improvement with jumpy and lagging position in Aura.
So now I removed Aura again and thats too bad. Sygic Aura is at this moment the nicest looking and most complete (incl. rather cheap traffic info) nav. system.
On the other hand, I would realy like IGOmyWay or IGO PRIMO on my DHD with full resolution. I threw out my WM (Touch HD) phone some weeks ago on which I had PRIMO including working TMC. That was fantastic, and fully configurable (sys.txt).
Let's see what the next months brings us.....
Sygic Aura on Desire HD
Hi everyone
I've just started using Aura on my Desire HD - impressed with the UI etc, but have a couple of niggles which people may be able to help with...
I've got the paid version 2.1, build R-20021, running on stock Desire HD, android 2.2
Changing voice - I've browsed the files using Astro and I have a female voice (amongst others)... how do i change the settings to use this voice file?
On my version, I can only turn on/off voice navigation, though i can change the different alert/warning sounds.
Re: speed camera/speed limit database... does anyone know how often this is updated? I'm based in UK and a local mainroad is indicating the incorrect speed limit (it changed from 60 -> 50 about 4years ago)...
Thanks in advance
Does someone recongnize the lagging behaviour of Aura as I describes 2 posts ago?
manipel said:
Does someone recongnize the lagging behaviour of Aura as I describes 2 posts ago?
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Me too. I drive with constant speed and the cursor freezes or de-accelerate then accelerates... then de-accelerate again... etc.. With navigon and Igo everything is fine! I have DHD with leddroid but It was the same with stock 1.72
I have exactly the same GPS-lagging problem with this program. Really odd though, as you would expect that the program gets the GPS info from android, just like any other navigation program (i.e. google maps).
Mashadar said:
I have exactly the same GPS-lagging problem with this program. Really odd though, as you would expect that the program gets the GPS info from android, just like any other navigation program (i.e. google maps).
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I also noticed the gps lag and it's terrible! This renders the app useless wich is too bad as I also like the user interface alot... Im using the latest Aura v2.1.3