The Galaxy S has a touchscreen that supports 10 point multitouch.
But you can only use 5!
For some reason Samsung decided to only enable 5 point multitouch, but the driver still supports 10.
You can increase the points tracked by a simple adjustment in the driver:
in the file: /drivers/input/touchscreen/qt602240.h
change:
Code:
5277: //#define MAX_NUM_FINGER 10 // Maximum possible fingering
5278: #define MAX_USING_FINGER_NUM 5
to
Code:
#define MAX_USING_FINGER_NUM 10
And in the android source at:
Code:
froyo/services/java/com/android/server/InputDevice.java
Set max_pointers to 10.
No, atmel maXtouch doesn't support unlimited touches:
http://www.atmel.com/dyn/resources/prod_documents/9530S.pdf
Why would you use 10 fingers on a 4'' screen?
Imagine, ten fingers on the screen. I think you are simply not able to move around any of the fingers , but still cool that more fingers are supported by this amazing device.
The ATMEL chip in SGS actually supports unlimited multi-touch
Rawat said:
The AMTEL chip in SGS actually supports unlimited multi-touch
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Nice. If I could just get 13 point multi-touch in a ROM/kernel my dreams would be fulfilled and I could stop flashing and get down to business.
opcow said:
Nice. If I could just get 13 point multi-touch in a ROM/kernel my dreams would be fulfilled and I could stop flashing and get down to business.
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lol thats really funny as sh1t
LoL Galaxy for aliens users with 18 fingers. Byez
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I think a few hundred thousand very precise and accurate touch inputs, and we might actually have a fingerprint scanner app that's not a spoof!
Having 10 points of multitouch can get rid of the multitouch gaming bug (that isn't present in CM builds for example), because having controls that freezes up each 10 seconds is really boring for me
we have to, each time that happens, remove our fngers from the screen and put them back on it, really annoying... test it with gangstar, nova, etc and you will quickly understand
10 is the actual max. It says so in the driver and in the datasheet.
Atmel maXtouch supports unlimited* touches.
*up to 10 simultaneous touch points can be tracked.
The_Double said:
10 is the actual max. It says so in the driver and in the datasheet.
Atmel maXtouch supports unlimited* touches.
*up to 10 simultaneous touch points can be tracked.
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http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp
Single-Chip Touch Solution for Small Screens
Atmel maXTouch microcontroller family sets the standard in capacitive touchscreen technology for smartphones and small-format devices, providing the industry's highest-performing, lowest-power multi-touch components. maXTouch microcontrollers feature Atmel patented charge transfer technology which enhances the traditional approach to mutual capacitance solutions and combines all aspects of advanced touch sensing onto a single chip:
Unlimited touches
Low power consumption
Fast response — completely redraws screen every 4/1000 of a second (4ms) to eliminate recalibration issues
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Rawat said:
http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp
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I usually find datasheets more reliable than advertisements.
opcow said:
Nice. If I could just get 13 point multi-touch in a ROM/kernel my dreams would be fulfilled and I could stop flashing and get down to business.
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+1 internets for you sir
well its nice to know ... would be useful on the galaxy pad .. or something bigger ... Like a touch table
edit : my bad .. galaxy tab
This is a nice little mod
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according to the PDF it only supports 10 concurrent touches in real time.
Can't find the "drivers" folder! Am I doing something wrong?
That data sheet is for mx224, and the one in Galaxy S is mx1224, but it's probably from the same family, and has 10 touch points.
I want 195.2 touch points
I think this is in the sourcecode, right?
It's a .h file (C Programming language) so I can't implement this Mod in my ROM, right?
Related
Is there any info about this? will wm7 be compatible with our devices?
Probably not. HTC never released WM 6.1 for the original Touch.
im sure we will get it
by hook or by crook
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Is there any info about this? will wm7 be compatible with our devices?
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Have you seen any device that is compatible? Have you seen minimum requirements? All that is known about WM7 are some screenshots and some basic features.
So until it is released noone knows if any current device will be compatible.
What an useless thread.
MarcLandis said:
Have you seen any device that is compatible? Have you seen minimum requirements? All that is known about WM7 are some screenshots and some basic features.
So until it is released noone knows if any current device will be compatible.
What an useless thread.
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calm down man just asking if theres any info lol
makeveral said:
calm down man just asking if theres any info lol
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patience is a virtue...
and
ignorance is bliss!!!
first njoy what you have in ur hand m8 still a few seasons to pass before we get photon on our devices
tc and god bless
there was a video a while back with wm7 running on the Touch Duel
video link
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/05/11/new-windows-mobile-peeped-in-microsoft-live-mesh-video/
so this obviously means it is compatible on HTC DIAMOND TOO
(considering its not as powerful as the diamond)
Why wouldn't wm7 be compatible? Maybe slower, if wm7 is heavier, but I'm rather sure it would run... even if some features (like multi-touch screen) are not working.
WM7 Chassis 1 Specification
Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)
Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal
Touch: Multi-touch required
Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.
Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present).
Peripherals:
Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient)
GPS: aGPS required
Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate)
USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate.
BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended.
Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended.
Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required.
Options:
FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application.
Haptics
SD Card (Micro SD recommended)
DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional
As I can read, this won't be compatible with our Diamond due to HW limitations...
MarcLandis said:
Have you seen any device that is compatible? Have you seen minimum requirements? All that is known about WM7 are some screenshots and some basic features.
So until it is released noone knows if any current device will be compatible.
What an useless thread.
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As you can see, not so useless thread
So which phone is actually compatible with WM7 ??
Any HTC ????
nop...
jaja i remember this thread! so rude xD
sjauquet said:
As you can see, not so useless thread
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+1
I'll rather see HTC Sense running in our diamonds but I guess anything should be better than WM5-WM6x. All nice developements are made by xda cookers or HTC itself not by M$.
Hope next year would be an interesting cooking year
When I read Microsoft XNA developer blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnhar/archive/2010/03/10/xna-game-studio-on-windows-phone.aspx
I came across this text:
The phone features an image scaler which allows games to render to any size backbuffer they like, and have it automatically stretched to fill the display, with black bars along the edges if the backbuffer and display have different aspect ratios (an idea that will be familiar to Xbox developers). This scaling is handled by dedicated hardware, so does not consume any GPU resources, and it uses a high quality image filter that gives much better results than bilinear filtering like you would get if you did this yourself on the GPU.
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I would think that hardware image scaler is something new ... and I dont think it is present on current WM device, including HD2. That could mean also the reason why HD2 is not upgradeable to WP7, because it does not have that piece of hardware.
The perfect reason why hd2 wont get upgrade (may be) :
"Microsoft will begin standardizing around the same touch interface with consistent CPU and GPU along with standard RAM configurations."
And gogol your signature a funny one ha ha i liked it.
gogol said:
When I read Microsoft XNA developer blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnhar/archive/2010/03/10/xna-game-studio-on-windows-phone.aspx
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Quote from there:
The phone supports full hardware accelerated 3D, but we are not exposing programmable shaders in this release.
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Boo!
That means we won't be seeing some of the cooler effects in Electopia in WP7 games.
Shasarak said:
Quote from there: Boo!
That means we won't be seeing some of the cooler effects in Electopia in WP7 games.
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Probably at the beginning no but I'm more than certain that they will include programmable shaders in future release.
Maybe not 1.1 or not even 1.2 but it will come. Next generation hardware will need that.
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When I read Microsoft XNA developer blog:
http://blogs.msdn.com/shawnhar/archive/2010/03/10/xna-game-studio-on-windows-phone.aspx
I came across this text:
I would think that hardware image scaler is something new ... and I dont think it is present on current WM device, including HD2. That could mean also the reason why HD2 is not upgradeable to WP7, because it does not have that piece of hardware.
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What chipset supports this hardware scaler? Seems strange they'd have something as a requirement that doesn't come on any of the current chipsets WP7 is aimed at.
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What chipset supports this hardware scaler? Seems strange they'd have something as a requirement that doesn't come on any of the current chipsets WP7 is aimed at.
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It could be something that the revised (1.3GHz) version of Snapdragon has but the current version doesn't; or I suppose it could be something that isn't part of the standard Qualcomm chipset at all, but which has to be added to all WP7 phones and which effectively sits in between the graphics chip and the display (a bit like a scaler chip built into a desktop monitor); but I have to agree this sounds a little odd.
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What chipset supports this hardware scaler? Seems strange they'd have something as a requirement that doesn't come on any of the current chipsets WP7 is aimed at.
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Nvidia? _____________
Isaygarcia said:
Nvidia? _____________
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All first gen WP7S phones will be using Qualcomm chipsets.
I like this. It'll make porting XNA games form the Xbox alot easier since you don't have to worrie about changing graphic sizes or the resolution you have it set to.
Thoughts
This is just a thought, perhaps WP7 based hardware will have alot in common with the Zune HD hardware (Video In particular) I may be way off base tho, take it as you will or not.
Cheers
BR
maybe the fpu in the hd2 could be this image scaler?
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This is just a thought, perhaps WP7 based hardware will have alot in common with the Zune HD hardware (Video In particular) I may be way off base tho, take it as you will or not.
Cheers
BR
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Yes, you're way off base.
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This is just a thought, perhaps WP7 based hardware will have alot in common with the Zune HD hardware (Video In particular) I may be way off base tho, take it as you will or not.
Cheers
BR
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Zune uses Nvidia Tegra chipset and WP7 is going to be using Qualcomm Snapdragon. Two different hardware's there.
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maybe the fpu in the hd2 could be this image scaler?
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That will do...I trust XDA devs will get WP7 on the HD2 about 3 wks after the first system dump of a phone made for wp7 is release or thrown around for reviews and one reviewer will leak the sys image / xda dev will get his hands on it / rip it apart / put it back together for the HD2. I trust the xda devs and I really need a new phone bad...T-mobile doesn't have a "Superphone!" (such a funny word) so yeah, i'm gunna by it and put my faith in xda devs and pray wp7 gets hacked and put on the HD2...so in short...it's not gunna have an official update, unless otherwise stated at mix10. if not then xda devs will consider that a challenge before all human race, and they ain't gunna lose!
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That will do...I trust XDA devs will get WP7 on the HD2 about 3 wks after the first system dump of a phone made for wp7 is release or thrown around for reviews and one reviewer will leak the sys image / xda dev will get his hands on it / rip it apart / put it back together for the HD2. I trust the xda devs and I really need a new phone bad...T-mobile doesn't have a "Superphone!" (such a funny word) so yeah, i'm gunna by it and put my faith in xda devs and pray wp7 gets hacked and put on the HD2...so in short...it's not gunna have an official update, unless otherwise stated at mix10. if not then xda devs will consider that a challenge before all human race, and they ain't gunna lose!
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yeah you can just go for a sleep and wait until xda has done the dirty work for you, from which we don't even know if that's possible at all.
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yeah you can just go for a sleep and wait until xda has done the dirty work for you, from which we don't even know if that's possible at all.
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That's true. I'm affraid the drivers will need a complete rewrite due to new CE core, which would be nearly impossible to do just by reverse engineering...
every windows 7 phone will be running the exact same chipset as the hd2,and the majority of them will be running the same resolution. the drivers will all be in the dumped sys image,also qualcomms snapdragon chipset has the image scaler built on,so the hd2 has that as well
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yeah you can just go for a sleep and wait until xda has done the dirty work for you, from which we don't even know if that's possible at all.
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qft
nuff said honestly
I hate having to purchase a new phone for wp7s but it looks like that's what is going to have to be done
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every windows 7 phone will be running the exact same chipset as the hd2,and the majority of them will be running the same resolution. the drivers will all be in the dumped sys image,also qualcomms snapdragon chipset has the image scaler built on,so the hd2 has that as well
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So you're happy if the touchscreen doesn't work and you can't use the camera?
You now know what is this WP7 in much more detailed.
OS characteristic, apps, marketplace, hardware requirements, upcoming models.
What now?
What more do you want to know?
For me ...
I want to see HTC device of Windows Phone 7 series!
It better to be HD3, and it should be much more powerful than HD2 spec wise.
I want the best of the best hardware, so my sacrifice of WP7 limitation will be paid-off.
- 4.3" screen size
- super responsive multitouch
- 1+ GHz Snapdragon
- very (very) long battery live (to compensate no multitasking!)
- 32 GB internal storage (to compensate no sd card)
Update:
I gave up ... I ordered Android phone (HTC Desire).
Too many limitations and restrictions.
The more I think, it became clear that WP7 is not my right choice, at least for its first release.
I will wait the next release, WP7.1 or WP8
I need to see a real device with 4"+ screen, and, most certainly, jailbreak.
Waiting for the HD3-announcement as well and game developers announcing their support for WP7!
i want everything you do besides that 4.3 screen plus a slide out keyboard & i wanna know more about browsers and video players & what kind of battery life should we expect on average from these devices
I'd like to see a Touch Pro 2 like device (ie: made totally like the TP2) but with the following guts:
-3.6" Screen, AMOLED or not, don't really care for a device this small.
-Snapdragon CPU, 1 or 1.3 ghz
-1Gig Ram
-64Gig of memory. I have about 40 gig of music on my Zune software xD
How about a HD Pro device...
which I see as a HD2 with keyboard! That would be sickness!
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I'd like to see a Touch Pro 2 like device (ie: made totally like the TP2) but with the following guts:
-3.6" Screen, AMOLED or not, don't really care for a device this small.
-Snapdragon CPU, 1 or 1.3 ghz
-1Gig Ram
-64Gig of memory. I have about 40 gig of music on my Zune software xD
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You cannot have more than 32 GB memory, as I recall.
Btw., you don't need 1 GB RAM - this is just a dumbphone without multitasking, so there's no need for that much RAM.
pilgrim011 said:
You cannot have more than 32 GB memory, as I recall.
Btw., you don't need 1 GB RAM - this is just a dumbphone without multitasking, so there's no need for that much RAM.
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True, as computers don't really need 24GB of ram...
What do you mean, we can't have more than 32 GIGS? Oo
i want an HTC with 4,5" amoled screen with true multitouch this time, preferably at least more than 2 registred fingerpoints.
Also, i'd like to see dedicated gaming buttons... still, nothing beats hardware input to play games, ofcourse, combine it with the multitouch touchscreen and you have a killer device. Maybe they can fiddle a qwerty keyboard between the d-pad and the action buttons. or only give us a d-pad on the left side of the keyboard and the action buttons we can assign with the qwerty keyboard. add some shoulder buttons, that could also function as a camera shutter. maybe a front camera... not that i make use of videocall, but fun to be use in games, sorta project natal on a mobile device. example game could be... a catapult. with the back camera you scan your surroundings and when you find your target, act if you were pulling the rubber band and virtually release a bunch of fun to your friends face, or something like that. have algorythm recognize windows and virtually catapult a rock into the window....
yeah... some useless app... but hey, if we copy apple, we should copy some lame apps too
*LOL* ... You made me laugh
hyellow said:
yeah... some useless app... but hey, if we copy apple, we should copy some lame apps too
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JAmerican said:
which I see as a HD2 with keyboard! That would be sickness!
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+1!!!
A thin hardware keyboard device would be awesome!
HTC HD3 rumor :
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_pho...wp7_phones_and_an_htc_hd3_rumor-news-1513.php
Well, that HD3 rumor is such obvious bull**** it's not even funny.
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+1!!!
A thin hardware keyboard device would be awesome!
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Don't you mean extremelyfuckingsnappable!
I'll be buying nothing until someone can confirm a compatible fart app.
I'm looking for something like my Touch Pro2 form factor wise. As long as it has a nice 5 row QWERTY and made by HTC I'm game. I don't mind the screen size but if they made it bigger I'd have no complaints.
I want to know if any kind of Navigation Software will be delivered along with WP7 if none will be included, which Software will be available for it as soon as the new HD3 gets available in the end of this year.
How 'bout a plain old HD2 Pro thats WP7 compaitble?
WhyBe said:
How 'bout a plain old HD2 Pro thats WP7 compaitble?
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How 'bout a plain old HD2 with Android?
Sucks that the Desire has a smaller screen and only one LED, but I have ordered one and will replace my HD2 with it.
This 2 phones just go leaked on one chinese website and the names are HTC Ignite and HTC Prime, looking pretty neat.
HTC Ignite equipped with the latest Windows Phone 7 mobile phone operating system, configuration 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch resistive touch screen, using Qualcomm 800MHz processor, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with autofocus and the LED flash and other features. The phone’s fastest upstream speed 2Mbps, fast downlink speeds of 7.2Mbps. The phone design with straight overall, it is extremely sleek, bottom of the screen using the three touch buttons (ie return to the main menu, look for). The phone has always been inherited HTC simple elegant design.
HTC Prime Windows Phone 7 equipped with a mobile phone operating system, configuration, 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch touch screen, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with auto focus and LED flash and other features. Support wi-fi, Bluetooth and other functions. In the design on this phone with sliding full QWERTY keyboard. There’s no dual-core as we can see which is kind of a shame,cause its 2011 and we expect some dual core mobile phones.
HTC Pyramid
Source and images here
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This 2 phones just go leaked on one chinese website and the names are HTC Ignite and HTC Prime, looking pretty neat.
HTC Ignite equipped with the latest Windows Phone 7 mobile phone operating system, configuration 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch resistive touch screen, using Qualcomm 800MHz processor, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with autofocus and the LED flash and other features. The phone’s fastest upstream speed 2Mbps, fast downlink speeds of 7.2Mbps. The phone design with straight overall, it is extremely sleek, bottom of the screen using the three touch buttons (ie return to the main menu, look for). The phone has always been inherited HTC simple elegant design.
HTC Prime Windows Phone 7 equipped with a mobile phone operating system, configuration, 480 * 800 resolution 3.7-inch touch screen, RAM to 512MB, with a 500-megapixel camera with auto focus and LED flash and other features. Support wi-fi, Bluetooth and other functions. In the design on this phone with sliding full QWERTY keyboard. There’s no dual-core as we can see which is kind of a shame,cause its 2011 and we expect some dual core mobile phones.
Source and images here
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Are you serious, or is it a typo...cheap-ass resistive touch tech??
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Are you serious, or is it a typo...cheap-ass resistive touch tech??
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blame the chinesse, they got it first
800MHz processer?
I thought the minimum requirement was a 1GHz..?
Casey
Well I know I sure could use a 500 megapixel camera!
The renders also don't have the mandatory camera button and volume rocker.
Only problem is that specs are jacked up, WP7 can't have resistive touch screens, and have to have 1Ghz processor as the minimum. So while the images may be somewhat "real" either the translation is completely off, or the leak is crap.
But I would like to say that it looks nice.
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Only problem is that specs are jacked up, WP7 can't have resistive touch screens, and have to have 1Ghz processor as the minimum. So while the images may be somewhat "real" either the translation is completely off, or the leak is crap.
But I would like to say that it looks nice.
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While I agree that the WP7 experience would not be the same with resistive touch, I think the 800mhz processor could be correct. MS will likely start opening up more CPU selection, and while 800mhz may sound less powerful than the 1ghz in our phones, we know that an A9 (iPhone 4) can process circles around the 1ghz processor in our phones. So I think that while the 1ghz snapdragon in our phones is a minimum, an 800mhz A8 or A9 would still be more powerful, and therefore an upgrade. (or atleast more power efficient)
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While I agree that the WP7 experience would not be the same with resistive touch, I think the 800mhz processor could be correct. MS will likely start opening up more CPU selection, and while 800mhz may sound less powerful than the 1ghz in our phones, we know that an A9 (iPhone 4) can process circles around the 1ghz processor in our phones. So I think that while the 1ghz snapdragon in our phones is a minimum, an 800mhz A8 or A9 would still be more powerful, and therefore an upgrade. (or atleast more power efficient)
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Outstanding! Thanks for the info.
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
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I should clarify, which I failed to state originally, the reason why I use the processor in the iPhone 4 as an example, is because it is clocked at 800mhz, and all benchmarks point to it being more fuel efficient, and able to process more faster than the 1ghz processor being used in our WP7 devices.
While clock speed is directly tied to performance, clock speed does not compare between two different processor architectures.
nrfitchett4 said:
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
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Going to an iPhone type CPU wouldn't be going down, it would be going up. The numbers don't mean anything in the real world. Look at how the new iPad2 blows away the "OMG! High-end nVidia" tech in the Xoom.
For those that don't remember, early rumors about the NoDo update suggested that it would add support for the Snapdragon MSM 7230 chipset, which is a 2nd generation snapdragon (with Adreno 205 GPU) on a 45nm process.
This is the same chipset in the T-Mobile G2. It should provide performance on par with our 1 GHz, better battery life, and a better GPU.
nrfitchett4 said:
new game in the marketplace called cell requires 3 finger touch input. Don't think resistive can do that.
I don't think MS would lower the specs. I think the 1ghz is a baseline that won't change for any country.
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Resistive actually could do that in future or even already. It has been a long time ago when there was starting to plan a resistive screen with multi touch.
Also resistive is much more accurate to receive touches. So it's not completely crap as some might say and think.
Also MS could have been lower the requirements of minimum specs. Hasn't anyone heard rumors about cheaper WP phones?
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Resistive actually could do that in future or even already. It has been a long time ago when there was starting to plan a resistive screen with multi touch.
Also resistive is much more accurate to receive touches. So it's not completely crap as some might say and think.
Also MS could have been lower the requirements of minimum specs. Hasn't anyone heard rumors about cheaper WP phones?
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but can you make a resistive screen that isn't plastic (aka glass). I don't think I can go back to a plastic screen.
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but can you make a resistive screen that isn't plastic (aka glass). I don't think I can go back to a plastic screen.
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No I guess. Thats why it is for cheaper phones, perhaps? Do you wanna go back to cheaper phones?
Well they said they are gonna make more cheap phones
markomarkogame said:
Well they said they are gonna make more cheap phones
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Yeah, and this was later clarified as meaning the phones would be cheaper due to a drop in component prices because of larger orders.
I don't see this as very likely now though with what's going on in Japan as they provide large amounts of the worlds semiconductor and LCD supply.
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Yeah, and this was later clarified as meaning the phones would be cheaper due to a drop in component prices because of larger orders.
I don't see this as very likely now though with what's going on in Japan as they provide large amounts of the worlds semiconductor and LCD supply.
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I imagine the price would already be fixed and supplied from South Korea
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I imagine the price would already be fixed and supplied from South Korea
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??
Prices change daily on core components like these and as there are no stock levels (the industry relies on JIT - meaning your stock is basically always in transit and arrives just in time for when you need it) any manufacturer relying on Japanese components are **** out of luck at the moment.
Samsung 8-core big.LITTLE chip early next year, will we see it in the future Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S4?
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-early-next-year-future-galaxy-note-3-133020/
IMHO this octacore will be kind of useless unless all Apps and Heavy Games get optimized for it say in next 3-5yrs. :screwy:
Want to read your opinions.
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Omar04 said:
Samsung 8-core big.LITTLE chip early next year, will we see it in the future Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S4?
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-early-next-year-future-galaxy-note-3-133020/
IMHO this octacore will be kind of useless unless all Apps and Heavy Games get optimized for it say in next 3-5yrs. :screwy:
Want to read your opinions.
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I don't think you understand the concept of cores. There will never be a need for 8 cores unless you are 3D designing.
I think it would be overkill for current technology. Might be great for tablets, holographic display, flexible screen or other future tech we don't know about. Other than that, I really can't see doing major gaming on my phone. I would rather do that on my gaming system.
jpkelly05 said:
I think it would be overkill for current technology. Might be great for tablets, holographic display, flexible screen or other future tech we don't know about. Other than that, I really can't see doing major gaming on my phone. I would rather do that on my gaming system.
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Well since Samsung already has a prototype of a flex screen device with built in projector that rolls up into a fat pen, that's probably what they are aiming this chipset at
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Bring it on and double the screen resolution. I don't see anything wrong with more cores as long as its still energy efficient
We may not need computers anymore or many other devices could be cheaper . we could just have two phones one as a backup . and water cooled docks everywhere. We just dock the phone and it over clocks to 3ghz and runs everything . the house the car the TV .cheep empty shell super 4k cameras that just need your phone to work .
hrffd said:
I don't think you understand the concept of cores. There will never be a need for 8 cores unless you are 3D designing.
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Did you happen to read after IMHO? Of course I understand the concept of cores. lol
and thanks for your opinion.
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Well since Samsung already has a prototype of a flex screen device with built in projector that rolls up into a fat pen, that's probably what they are aiming this chipset at
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Exactly...
I posted a that concept awhile back. Here it is again if anyones wondering.
http://www.concept-phones.com/samsung/samsung-flexible-display-phone-pulled-pen/
I think 8 cores would be great for tablets or those android smart tv boxes...
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Exactly...
I posted a that concept awhile back. Here it is again if anyones wondering.
http://www.concept-phones.com/samsung/samsung-flexible-display-phone-pulled-pen/
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There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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Now that you mention holographic projection that is use here in Puerto Rico in special events like past election day. That was freaking awesome I was astonished.
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it's not an 8 core, its two of their quad cores put together.
Way different than an 8 core
Omar04 said:
Now that you mention holographic projection that is use here in Puerto Rico in special events like past election day. That was freaking awesome I was astonished.
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Yeah the general technology has been around in one form or another since the mid/late 1800s Samsung has devised a new method in a compact HD form that they want to use for TV, PC and mobile device displays as a kind of real 3d where you actually see depth and all sides of the image. The only problem is its currently super expensive and not viable as a general consumer option yet it's more for the corporate, .gov, uber rich at the moment
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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They are actually working out the last kinks in one of the colors in production from what I last read in the news about a month or so ago. Once they fix that problem, they will begin mass production - maybe LOL.
Going off of memory. I googled "samsung flexible screens production" and found this right off the bat:
http://www.techradar.com/news/world...-up-flexible-amoled-screen-production-1112640
I would much rather have holographic imaging instead of a flexable screen. Boy, that would be so Johnny Mnemonic. That would also classify under "Excellent" Whoa Dude.
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is more of a way to balance power and efficiency. The name even gives it away. From what I know it uses the "little" portion of the chipset for tasks that don't require horsepower so as to prolong battery life, and the 4 core "big" handles the tough graphics and video.
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I can't wait till Intel gets into the mobile game. These quad core arm processors are considered weak for computers and there's much improvement needed than most think
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