Sorry if I'm being dim, but when did the market refund policy change from 24 hours to 15 minutes?!
Did I miss an announcement? Has anyone else been caught out by this?
Just bought a couple of apps by mistake.
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The change was very recent. It does state at the Google Checkout page that refunds are available within 15 minutes, but if your not looking for it you wont see it.
Yeah it's gimp. It will take at least 15 minutes for the data for an app like, say, copilot to download to your sd card. In effect it means you can't trial apps like that one anymore.
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I only briefly look at the checkout page, to make sure the payment details are correct. I would have expected a one time pop up box, like some apps give after an update. There was probably a new agreement when I upgraded the market and it was buried in the small print.
It's such an extreme change, an hour would be better, if it has to be lessthan a day.
Still, not much we can do about it I suppose...
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I think it will be counter productive.
They changed it because devs were complaining that people were installing their apps, doing what they needed to to, then uninstalling and refunding. I'm kind of curious how they met this conclusion. Maybe people were trying the apps, finding they weren't for them and then refunding them.
Personally I'm a lot more reluctant to trial an app now if there is no free version I can test. I mean its so easy to forget or get interrupted during the 15min period then you may end up stuck with some crappy app you didn't really want.
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It would not be used my your average droid user but for those few of us it would be a time saver and money maker... Time is money in my job.... DirecTV installer that is.
Here's what we do, we put up all external and internal equipment and then start doing firmware updates at which time, we stand around looking bored or put all our equipment away during the 20 minutes worth of upgrade and reboot.
That time could best be served by programming the remotes to all devices and some times we are able to accomplish this by going to DTV's website using link:
http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageIF.jsp?assetId=P4380052#h:620.977
The problem is when we are out of 3G area in the desert mountains it's either painfully slow or non-existent
Now, if a DEV sees a way to cache the codes and make a app for our droids, I know a ton of installers would be willing to purchase it. Shoot, I'd be willing to throw out a 20 if it would save me the down time and get me to my next job faster as we don't get paid by the hour, we get paid by completed install/upgrade.
So, just an idea for a DEV, well... request really. An app that is searchable like DTV's site that would give all remote codes for a device. Not just the one result, but the "Find More Codes" included.
Sorry for rambling.
Serious Help here needed...I'm perplexed...GAME detected as "not paid for" removed?!
I use applanet often, and I have now, on several instances had my games removed, without me actually removing them, by my EVO 4g all on its own because the games were "detected as not being paid for from the Market" (googles android market)"... verbatim it says "Unfortunately we could not locate your purchase on the Android Market, please uninstall this one before purchasing another one".
Is there any clue as to what I need to do to stop this from happening again? My phone is rooted and has a custom ROM on it. (CM 7.0.3.1)
**and please, before you respond with, buy the app from the Android Market, I have no issues buying my apps/games... I simply prefer to try them out for a day or two first.
I appreciate your help.
Honestly, I don't think you're going to get any help here. Yes, I know 15 minutes is not a large amount of time to test out an app. But that's the way it is and I feel you (we) should go by that. A lot of hard work and time away from loved ones go into making these apps and they should benefit from it. Not saying I'm perfect, but remember the saying "you get what you pay for."
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I appreciate what you said, as I myself do some developing work in my spare time and have made ipa files for the ipad as well as iphone/ipod touch.... I am learning to do the same with apk files. Some apk files don't give you any minutes to test them out. I've donated to many people on here for their roms and I buy a great deal of apps from the app market as well as android market.... not everyone who uses applanet or any other source, doesn't purchase the apps in the end. I know I do. If not you don't get the updated, less problematic apps.
thanks for your input though.
Ive got this issue fixed.
If I knew how to remove this thread I would
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quickfixguru said:
I appreciate what you said, as I myself do some developing work in my spare time and have made ipa files for the ipad as well as iphone/ipod touch.... I am learning to do the same with apk files. Some apk files don't give you any minutes to test them out. I've donated to many people on here for their roms and I buy a great deal of apps from the app market as well as android market.... not everyone who uses applanet or any other source, doesn't purchase the apps in the end. I know I do. If not you don't get the updated, less problematic apps.
thanks for your input though.
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I agree with you 100% I use applanet to fully try things out 24 to 48 hours tops.Then I go back and buy it from the Android market. Not everyone uses applanet for the wrong intentions. And I know its been said before but 15minutes is not enough time to test out an app.
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I woke up this morning and tried to buy the slew of 10 cent apps, but I cannot purchase anything and most of the pages just don't load. Every time I try to buy something it tells me there is an error processing my purchase. Just wondering if anyone else is having the same issue or if it's just my new G Nexus thats acting up.
It's not the phone. Even if you try to buy from market.android.com from a computer it is saying the same thing.
Guess these problems have likely to do with the millions of users who want to download all the cheapos.
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Guess these problems have likely to do with the millions of users who want to download all the cheapos.
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Pretty much what I'm thinking too many people hammering the servers . Figured google would handle this better but perhaps they weren't excepting it to be this demanding. I was able to purchase Need for Speed Shift and install, it but Spirit HD says this: You have already purchased this item and the order is still being processed. If you'd like, you can check your order status at anytime. :/(EDIT: just went through woo)
and when i go to check it (goes to google wallet) it doesn't show anything woo lol.. oh well the day isn't over yet guess just try to make your purchases and eventually they will go through
And I made the purchased on the site, android market app was giving me those error processing errors too.
Most of them are throwing a dollar app these days.
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Something like this but even worse happened to some guy in a German forum. He purchased SwiftKey and they refused his order five hours later and now the price is up to normal again. :-D
As all interesting apps are already have been bought earlier I can deal with these market issues pretty good.
Hope there'll come out some more breakers in the next days.
Yea Market is misbehaving. I'm trying to buy some of those $.10 apps on sale today and it keeps erroring out. I did manage to buy one, but it won't download. Tried on my Transformer and market.android.com
I managed to buy 5-6 of them, but now I'm having the same issues... even on the computer won't work
If it is an issue with authorizing/processing purchases, that would be a Google Checkout/Google Wallet issue, not a Market issue.
Had issues, but it seems to work for me now.
I thought I was alone...
http://majorgeeks.com/story.php?id=38037
All adblocking apps have been removed officially by Google.
I'm honestly surprised that it didn't happen sooner. Ad revenue taken from developers causes developers to cease development of apps because they aren't making any money at all. Let's face it, most of us don't buy apps. I get ad supported apps and Amazon's free app of the day. I have bought maybe 5 apps since I got the Hero when it came out...
^^ agreed ^^ it's their app their choice. You're choice to use it or not. Sucks but the way it is.
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That does suck. That was the biggest reason I rooted half of my phones...:crying:
I buy most of the apps I use. But it's just a hosts file.
Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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If it's gonna make more devs, company create more apps/games for the android market then why not. I think little by little they will try to emulate the apple store with limitations and more restrictions . but like dude above me said just get the free app elsewhere, kinda the same deal with flash no biggie.
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I support apps that are worth the money, like ROM ToolBox, Carbon Backup, Nova (and not all of these even have ads) but some free ads have no pro alternatives. I'm pro for developers making money...but if a user wants to block ads, that's their choice to do so on their OPEN-SOURCE OS lol. It's not a huge problem for people like us who can simply just load the .apk up or insert a modified hostfiles..but it looks if it was an "Appleish" move and that's the main reason I'm disappointed. If anyone gets what I mean by that. Regardless, since this had to happen, hopefully the developers make more money through ads and better apps can be developed and funded for? (Just a positive insight)
TL;DR : Google shouldn't have removed apps that didn't infringe on copyrights, but some developers still offer their apps unofficially thankfully. And we should now see devs being supported more!
Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I also buy the apps I really like. If i use that app on occasion then i dont mind the ads, as long as they are the banners at the bottom or something, and dont just pop up in full screen when im trying to do something. Those apps that do that, i usually delete and just find an alternative app.
Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Indeed. It just feels as if Google is going towards Apples iron fist way of running things. No external sd card in the Nexus 4 and no removable battery as mentioned above? Apple phones also fill that criteria. Only time will tell to see if they become truly brazen.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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Exactly my reason. If an app is worthy I have no problem shelling out a few bucks for it. It's just the occasional free apps that just straight up comes with ads. No paid versions.
Well i have bought 97% of my apps so for me it's no big deal what i don't like is that my payed apps come with ingame purchase.
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I think the move sucks but honestly I'm not surprised
I assume most of the apps that got pulled are going to be online pretty soon.
http://adblockplus.org/en/android-about
I personally never removed ads anyways. The devs put a lot of time and effort into these and if I'm too cheap to pay for it, I can deal with the ads.
BTW 95% of my apps have been purchased if they have a pro/paid version.
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
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Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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Once Google has a windows and Mac app like iTunes then they could do this cloud service crap, it's not time yet. They are always going to give a lame excuse but I'm happy not all manufacturers are carrying along.
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Hey guys! Check out Locket, a new Android app that pays you for unlocking your phone
This is the greatest idea ever!
The app replaces your usual lockscreen with a nice sleek one that displays ads. You can choose to ignore the ad or go to it, either way you get money! The ads look nice as well, check out the link:
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It may seem like a scam, but it's not. Google about the app and you'll see that many good websites have talked about it, such as PCMag, ABC News, and Engadget! So I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it.
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Hey guys! Check out Locket, a new Android app that pays you for unlocking your phone
This is the greatest idea ever!
The app replaces your usual lockscreen with a nice sleek one that displays ads. You can choose to ignore the ad or go to it, either way you get money! The ads look nice as well, check out the link:
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It may seem like a scam, but it's not. Google about the app and you'll see that many good websites have talked about it, such as PCMag, ABC News, and Engadget! So I HIGHLY RECOMMEND it.
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I choose to ignore the ads, the app, and anything associated with it. Now, when they're payin' $100/month, let me know.
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I choose to ignore the ads, the app, and anything associated with it. Now, when they're payin' $100/month, let me know.
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Then so be it. You don't have to download it. I go on my phone alot, unlocking my screen. All those unlocks give me a penny, and at the end of day I'll get more then I expect.
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Then so be it. You don't have to download it. I go on my phone alot, unlocking my screen. All those unlocks give me a penny, and at the end of day I'll get more then I expect.
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From AndroidCentral:
So, how much are you going to get paid with Locket? The truth is, not much. This is a long-term play, at best, and even then you're not going to be buying much more than a six-pack with your spoils. You get the impression using Locket that you get 1 cent per unlock. But the truth — and this isn't anywhere in the fine print that we've seen, only in other published reports — is that it's capped at 3 cents per hour. Any unlocks beyond that — and the ads you view — are money in someone else's pocket. Not yours. (At the time of this writing, Locket hasn't responded to an e-mail seeking confirmation and clarification on the 3-cents-per-hour cap.)
Doing the math, that's a max of 72 cents a day. Or $5.04 a week. Or $262.80 a year — if you're unlocking your phone three times and hour, 24 hours a day. Which you won't be doing.
It's free money, but not worth giving up the security of a password lock to me. Or even the inconvenience of having TWO lockscreens. Raise the rates and play nicely with password locks, then we'll talk.
^^ Lol what a pain and no one likes ads. You could make more begging on the streets a couple times a year
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For 9 days of unlocking... And not doing it every hour.
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I have been using locket. You can also disable the stock lock screen by going into the setting and selecting the lock screen option to: none. I guess there are people like myself with nothing on my phone to hide so I don't ever use a pass code at my lock screen. It's been about three weeks and I have 5 dollars lol
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Kamau54 said:
I choose to ignore the ads, the app, and anything associated with it. Now, when they're payin' $100/month, let me know.
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Just wait until someone releases a similar concept and then there will be competition and only then maybe we might get like 3cents ea unlock?
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From AndroidCentral:
So, how much are you going to get paid with Locket? The truth is, not much. This is a long-term play, at best, and even then you're not going to be buying much more than a six-pack with your spoils. You get the impression using Locket that you get 1 cent per unlock. But the truth — and this isn't anywhere in the fine print that we've seen, only in other published reports — is that it's capped at 3 cents per hour. Any unlocks beyond that — and the ads you view — are money in someone else's pocket. Not yours. (At the time of this writing, Locket hasn't responded to an e-mail seeking confirmation and clarification on the 3-cents-per-hour cap.)
Doing the math, that's a max of 72 cents a day. Or $5.04 a week. Or $262.80 a year — if you're unlocking your phone three times and hour, 24 hours a day. Which you won't be doing.
It's free money, but not worth giving up the security of a password lock to me. Or even the inconvenience of having TWO lockscreens. Raise the rates and play nicely with password locks, then we'll talk.
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Looks like they finally added confirmation:
There is currently a limit of 3 swipe-cents per hour as stated in our FAQ page. In the future, we may offer a different rewards structure to maximize users' and advertisers' satisfaction. **
Anyway, neat find and I have to give it to the app developers. This is the first time I seen anyone excited about getting ads lol.