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Rooting without changing ROM? Some questions.

I'm happy with the stock ROM that my unbranded Desire came with, but I'm thinking about rooting it to add some extra functionality - specifically two-way call recording and Titanium Backup right now.
Is it possible to root the phone without changing ROMs and/or losing all of my currently installed apps, settings etc etc?
If it is, what happens when ROM updates appear? Can I install the OTA updates or would I need to wait for someone to mod it to keep root enabled?
Finally, the same question but regarding 2.2. What happens when the official 2.2 update comes out? I'm guessing nobody knows for certain, but are we likely to be waiting a while before we can update if our phones are rooted?
I'd have thought this sort of thing would be covered in a rooting FAQ but I can't seem to find anything about it!
Much thanks for any advice.

I'm also very interested in the response to this, as a new Desire user I don't think that the rooting/rom upgrade guide is particularly helpful, it dives far too deeply into the topic before actually talking about the process, what it involves from a complete Desire newbie perspective.

In a word - no.
In a few more words, part of the rooting process has to replace your existing ROM.
Regards,
Dave

Can someone link or show me where to get a rundown on how to root Froyo?

I am coming off a bricked phone so I am a little apprehensive about trying to root without a clear guide, especially froyo since it just got rooted from my understanding. I am sorry if this isnt in the right section, I really couldnt tell if this belonged in the General forum as it is a question, or if it belonged in the development as it is regarding Root/Roms. I would appreciate any help, and even any remarks on how I am misposting in this forum .

There is no root for froyo if you installed the official updates. You can try the previous methods but I doubt they work. You may be sol until someone decides to work on finding an exploit but I doubt that happens until there is an official release. The only rooted froyo that is out is for people who were rooted prior to froyo. Sorry.

If you have Froyo OTA (from Sprint) installed, you cannot yet root it (if/when someone releases root instructions). You have to already have your phone rooted with nand access and then install one of the rooted Froyo updates (there are two right now, from Avalaunch and netarchy). As well, there is a AOSP FROYO from cyanogenmod.
The wiki from toastcfh for this forum gives all sorts of instructions and options for rooting. Good luck.

swaze said:
There is no root for froyo if you installed the official updates. You can try the previous methods but I doubt they work. You may be sol until someone decides to work on finding an exploit but I doubt that happens until there is an official release. The only rooted froyo that is out is for people who were rooted prior to froyo. Sorry.
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So please don't murder me for this question, i'm a noob coming from a pre.
I updated(or i should say my phone automatically updated) the 2.1 sprint image from the last update with the SD card Fix. This was before I got to this forum about rooting, etc.
Are my options to only go to the sprint store and get a replacement phone if I want to root now? Or is there a way to backtrack.
I tried to root last night but kept getting daemon errors when trying to connect to the phone. :S

manville140 said:
So please don't murder me for this question, i'm a noob coming from a pre.
I updated(or i should say my phone automatically updated) the 2.1 sprint image from the last update with the SD card Fix. This was before I got to this forum about rooting, etc.
Are my options to only go to the sprint store and get a replacement phone if I want to root now? Or is there a way to backtrack.
I tried to root last night but kept getting daemon errors when trying to connect to the phone. :S
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What software version are you running? From homescreen go to menu>settings>about phone>software information and give me your software #.

1.47.165.1
I thought I could with this, because this is what the simpleroot software is showing in the program.
I did a full erase also last night with the volume down power button trick.

search for simpleroot 1.47 either on google, youtube, or here. there are loads of vids and tutorials
Also, there is a Q & A forum and would suggest you use that next time you have a question. You'll get your ass handed to you for posting in the dev section.

manville140 said:
1.47.165.1
I thought I could with this, because this is what the simpleroot software is showing in the program.
I did a full erase also last night with the volume down power button trick.
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Are you on IM? it will be easier than doing this in the forum? I'm on yahoo will that work for you?

regulator207 said:
search for simpleroot 1.47 either on google, youtube, or here. there are loads of vids and tutorials
Also, there is a Q & A forum and would suggest you use that next time you have a question. You'll get your ass handed to you for posting in the dev section.
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Yea I know. I didnt post this thread. i just posted IN it.
I tried simpleroot and it didnt work. I just wanted to confirm that it COULD work, instead of playing around with it aimlessly for hours. Only to find my phone was locked.

manville140 said:
Yea I know. I didnt post this thread. i just posted IN it.
I tried simpleroot and it didnt work. I just wanted to confirm that it COULD work, instead of playing around with it aimlessly for hours. Only to find my phone was locked.
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Simpleroot is the best option to root v1.47. Unrevoked has known issues, AVOID it. Simpleroot was made from my earlier posting & guide of manually rooting 1.47, so I know it works. WATCH THE VIDEO he made!! It practically cups your nuts the entire way thru the process with both PC & EVO screen videos. Once you do simpleroot, I recommened doing toast's part 2. Right after that do a nandroid backup. Then apply one of the rooted Froyo ROMs posted in the dev forum (there are both odex and deodex versions posted).
However (as already stated numerous times in numerous threads) if you apply the OTA update, your screwed.

[Q] 2.2 OTA as an easy unroot option?

My buddy got a rooted EVO on craigslist, wants to go back to stock, just feels better without root, doesn't have any interest in rooting, roms, etc.
I rooted my own evo so i have some exp with rooting the phone but was thinking i could just flash update.zip and it would update his phone and unroot.
but two update.zip i dl which were supposed to be official 2.2 did not work, one failed verification/signature cant remember excactly but will post if needed. the other one just gave a strange error.
Do i need to wipe the data/factory reset/or anything special?
Am i to hopeful assuming flashing update.zip will unroot? also if he gets OTA update tomorrow should he accept and will that unroot?
thanks in advance, i tried to do a search on unrooting and found a bunch of dead end options, i tried a few with no success. I was hoping the new update would be the easiest route.
here is a few i tried
sorry to new for links....
did not try this one yet, was hoping the OTA would avoid this:
any insight is greatly appreciated, i have tried to convince him to stay rooted but no luck. if anybody had success with one of the OTA 2.2 update.zip floating around and could share a link it would help me out, i used two different ones with no success.

For the love of god, please search and post in the right forum. There are tons of threads on this, including a new one this evening.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743192
The thread above is even on this PAGE with the subject line of 'How To UN ROOT. TUTORIAL. Your Problems are solved!'.
HOW you missed that is incomprehensible.

PLEASE IF SOMEONE CAN MOVE THIS TO THE PROPER FORUM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, I MESSED UP AND POSTED INCORRECTLY. thank you...
I searched the forums, I tried to post the links of many options available for unrooting the phone, I don't have the privileges to post links.
The one you posted I DID SEE I should have been more direct, I was looking to see if the new OTA update will update the phone to 2.2 and unroot the phone, since its not my phone i don't want to spend to much time on it or simply pass the info on to him.
I was NOT IN ANYWAY looking to be directed to another source for unrooting or lead to a link, what i could not find was if the new ota will be the easiest route. I had him try two run two of what I had believed were the newest ota update.zip with no success.

how to root and 4.0.4 OTA update

Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd

sneakyws6 said:
Hi,
I just got the phone and have looked thru the forums and I have yet to find a definitive thread on how to root a ATT Samsung S3. Can someone point me in the right direction as the root hits I find all say my phone needs to be a I9300 and mine is a I747.
Also does anyone know what was fixed in the OTA updated that came out 4.0.4? Will this affect me being able to root the phone?
Thanks in advance...Todd
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HEY!
Ok so im not completely sure which update 4.0.4 is but I think there has only been one so far right? the one that nerfs google search. Anyway, Here is a link to the guide that i used (after I did the update) and i followed the steps and the comment posted by danK in the comments. He said "If you’ve updated to newer software update, the stock OS will over-write ClockworkMod Recovery on reboot. To fix this, make sure “auto-reboot” is checked off in ODIN, then take the battery out when it’s done flashing in ODIN. Then enter ClockworkMod Recovery right away. " Doing this let me root my phone with zero issues.
androidauthority[.com]/galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-att-clockworkmod-recovery-99791
(sorry it said i could not post links yet but this is the URL but without brackets)

Thanks for the link, that is only how to flash clockworks mods, how do you root the phone? Can anyone share that info?

Welcome to XDA.
First of all, if you had looked in the Dev section you would have found what you were looking for.
2nd of all what you want is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426

[Q] UN-Root M8

Hi, First off I am a complete noob to this and probably should of read which apps wouldn't work before I did this. Also i apologise if this has been posted elsewhere.
Basically I have unlocked my bootloader, then flashed TWRP and then flashed the Android Revolution Rom. I have then gone to install the barclays banking app (Im on o2 in the UK btw) and it says it cannot be used with a rooted device. This app is a lifesaver for me with the amount of money going out so i can keep an eye on it.
I have read into the RUU applications to be used after locking the bootloader but as far as i am aware they are not available yet. So basically my question is is there a way to go to 100% complete stock? so i can use the app.
Thanks in advance. Please remember i am a noob so please be clear if its technical haha :fingers-crossed:

Check my thread in my signature, check also post #2 it has a flashable zip to unroot the device !

Mr Hofs said:
Check my thread in my signature, check also post #2 it has a flashable zip to unroot the device !
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Thanks for your quick reply, I have checked my software number and it is 1.54.401.5, so seeing that someone has put in a flashable zip on their post after yours does that mean i can use that? also im on o2 in the uk does this affect it? and when i run the zip in twrp does that unroot my phone?
Sorry for being so useless in this haha
EDIT: All done now flashed one of the recoveries that you have in your thread and worked a treat cheers.

Hello Mr Hoffs, I have seen your stock rom recovery page, plenty there, unfortunately none for mine.
I was wondering if you had any idea where I could get hold of cid 2___001 and a version main of 1.54.206.10 for my o2 HTC M8 please?
I have an unrooted phone with a constant nag about an OTA security update which I can't apply, this is very frustrating and much more awkward than rooting my S3 or N5 ever was.
Thanks in advance!