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[Q] OTA Update by carrier or phone manufacturer?

Can't find any answers on forums so here goes...will a future 2.3 OTA update for DHD be by carrier or phone manufacturer i.e by HTC direct.
I got mine p&g on 3 network but don't use the 3 sim, I use an o2...so how wld any OTA update arrive, do I need to keep putting 3 sim back in the phone from time to time or when I check for updates will it come from HTC direct?...I take it that it wldn't come from o2...
Thanks
**Emailed HTC..they say they wont be releasing any OTA update, it will come from carrier, and for me to contact 3
***Just spoke to 3...didnt expect much from them, according to their c/s call centre assistant in Mumbai, the latest version of Android 3 network has is 2.1...dimwit, I bought the phone from 3 and had 2.2 already on it, which he disputes..obviously he knows better than me who bought the phone and uses it

Have a look at the software build. If it's x.x.405.x then any updates will come from HTC directly. Otherwise you'll have to wait for the carrier to modify it first.
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...or forget about OTA and carrier bloatware, root your phone and enjoy the fruits of the XDA Development section

CitizenLee said:
...or forget about OTA and carrier bloatware, root your phone and enjoy the fruits of the XDA Development section
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Or that...

Thanks for that..yes my software build does have .405. so hopefully they will release something compatible with sense..
thanks again

..thanks for that advice..Id like to have a go but havent rooted before and not confident in doing all tahts needed
..from what Ive seen tho there isnt a build where everything is functioning (wifi, camera etc) and alot recommend not for everyday use..anyone using a custom rom with everything working yet?

chrisr27 said:
..thanks for that advice..Id like to have a go but havent rooted before and not confident in doing all tahts needed
..from what Ive seen tho there isnt a build where everything is functioning (wifi, camera etc) and alot recommend not for everyday use..anyone using a custom rom with everything working yet?
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We are all new to it at some point but the whole process is actually a lot easier than it first sounds. Just read the instructions and FAQs until it's clear what you need to do. See my reply in the thread linked below to save you searching and to save me typing it all again!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920238&page=2
As for things not working in custom ROMs, well that was maybe the case when the DHD was first released but it's certainly not the case now. Lets take Android Revolution HD ROM as an example - Everything works as it should and the performance of it blows all stock ROMs away.
There are other 100% working / stable / every day use ROMs too, like LeeDroid ROM which also gets great feedback from the people who use it.

CitizenLee said:
We are all new to it at some point but the whole process is actually a lot easier than it first sounds. Just read the instructions and FAQs until it's clear what you need to do. See my reply in the thread linked below to save you searching and to save me typing it all again!:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920238&page=2
As for things not working in custom ROMs, well that was maybe the case when the DHD was first released but it's certainly not the case now. Lets take Android Revolution HD ROM as an example - Everything works as it should and the performance of it blows all stock ROMs away.
There are other 100% working / stable / every day use ROMs too, like LeeDroid ROM which also gets great feedback from the people who use it.
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Many thanks...maybe I will have a try...getting bored with Froyo cos of all the 2.3 hype so wld like to see what the fuss is about...cant read anything on android forums without them banging on about gingerbread this, gingerbread that...and an OTA from 3 or HTC isnt worth holding breath for

Ah... now most fully working DHD ROMs are also Froyo, but don't let that put you off as they will all be like night and day compared to stock Froyo. You jsut have to have a quick look at the release notes and change logs to see the differences.
However if you really do want a slice of tasty Gingerbread look at the CM7 builds, but this is where you will find things not working or unstable etc as they're experimental.
Another option to relieve your Froyo boredom is to flash one of the custom Froyo ROMs and then start customising it with mods and themes etc. See post 2 in the Android Revolution HD thread for some really cool stuff, and also in the first few posts of the LeeDroid thread.

Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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Aamir.Badat said:
Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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We'll have to wait for HTC to release the official update, or wait for another model HTC to get 2.3 and then be ported over to DHD.
It will happen, we just have to be patient... something I learned waiting for the 2.1 update for Hero!
In think custom 2.2 would be better than stock 2.3 anyway. On the other hand, custom ROMs based on 2.3 are something to get excited about

Aamir.Badat said:
Can't anyone implement sense into 2.3 aosp is it difficult?
Because the HTC camera beats the Android camera in my opinion
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HTC! there's potentially a lot of work with the framework and API changes from Froyo to gingerbread and I wouldn't expect personally to see a GB sense ROM until HTC have ported it

[Q] Is there a viable Gingerbread 2.3 Rom for Desire HD yet?

I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market

Noxis said:
I had an original Hero a while ago and was using Modaco roms but that was over a year ago now before jumping to Palm Pre for a bit.
So I am totally new on modern hacks and concerning the DHD.
I know I need to downgrade and something called S-OFF and Visionary. However what I need to know is if I use a 2.3 Rom presumably from a Cyanogen source will I have full functionality? All Google Apps? Can I still use HTC Sense widgets if I choose too? Will HTCSense.com still work?
Thanks
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Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
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Depends where you get it from, but on here most are full of bugs currently, I would wait until they are ironed out. No HTCSense.com won't work without the HTC Sense homescreen, but I would only worry about this if you REALLY need the service. Google Apps will work, and if they arent supplied they can be downloaded from the Market
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Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great

ghostofcain said:
Sense ROM's, no as HTC has yet to port sense to Gingerbread as for Viable GB rom's have a look in the development forum
Really? I have been running Cm7 (compiled from source and Now nightlies) and the only bug is a quirk in video playback in portrait mode everything else works fine, true if you like sense cm isn't gonna be your bag but otherwise it's great
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No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?

Noxis said:
No I want to try vanilla 2.3 for a bit. I have only ever used Android with Sense overlay.
You saying the Cm7 nightlys are stable for day2day use and all apps are available on it? Is it the thread over in Dev forum?
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I'm using CM7 Nightlys on day2day basis, on build #5 atm, got no problems with it at all.
Thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917271
Alltho i recomend reading up on the full proess around rooting and flashing recovery, radio and roms a few times to ensure your not getting a brick out of it

does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?

I did all the nececssary and now I am succesfully running slightly modded cyanogen7 daily #5. Very stable actually no problems at all so far other than the Microbes live wall paper freezing and needing a reload

jeRrRKKKK said:
does 2.3 bring with it marvelous battery life improvements?
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No
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[Q] Camera flash and shutter close out of sync

Hi everybody,
I'd just like to ask a question about HTC Desire camera flash problem of mine.
Whenever I take pictures in the dark and use flash, my pictures coe out half dark or totally dark.
Has anayone been expiriencing these kind of problems and possibly found a fix for it.
Currently I'm using the latest WWE oficial ROM for my Desire.
I have been experimenting with custom ROMs but I reverted to official ROM in waiting of official 2.3 update.
Please send any ifo on the subject cause there isn't a lot out there on the net.
Thanx.

after updating to official 2.3 my flash and camera are out of sync too, flash goes before taking picture resulting poor pictures when in dark rooms. any idea how to fix this?

cartus said:
after updating to official 2.3 my flash and camera are out of sync too, flash goes before taking picture resulting poor pictures when in dark rooms. any idea how to fix this?
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I have had the same problem with my wife´s desire and 2.3 update, i did not find any solution so i installed a Froyo RUU again, did root, remove some htc apps and installed Neo´s Kernel.
Now camera and whole Froyo ROM works fine, with very good battery life using set cpu.
But i´d like to know if there is any solution for camera using ginger.

padrequart said:
I have had the same problem with my wife´s desire and 2.3 update, i did not find any solution so i installed a Froyo RUU again, did root, remove some htc apps and installed Neo´s Kernel.
Now camera and whole Froyo ROM works fine, with very good battery life using set cpu.
But i´d like to know if there is any solution for camera using ginger.
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nobody interested?

I am interested!
So, it seems none of the current Gingerbread kernels solve this issue? This is basically what is keeping me in Froyo.

I think my HTC Desire running the Leedroid 3.3.3 ROM might be slightly out of sync to, however i still do seem to get good picture quality?

Finally I found people with same issue as me! I've been looking high and low for sollutions to this issue with no luck, but now at least I found this thread
I've had this issue since the Froyo update if I remember right, updated to official Gingerbread with hopes that it would get solved, and ended up rooting phone and installing Cyanogen 7.1 and nothing... still same problem. Flash goes off, and shutter closes just a little to late and pictures ends up being to dark.
I will keep on testing a couple of roms and see if someone has fixed it, and if so report back here. Doesn't look like it's a common issue though, as there is no info on the net about it.
-swex

I've been running Gingerbread since the official update came out and lately the Supernova ROM and just now I realized I never used the Desire to take photos in the dark so I actually never used the flash. That's why you will not find any info about it, we use our smartphones like they are meant to and think crap picture quality is a given

cartus said:
after updating to official 2.3 my flash and camera are out of sync too, flash goes before taking picture resulting poor pictures when in dark rooms. any idea how to fix this?
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Same problem here!

Makinen11 said:
I've been running Gingerbread since the official update came out and lately the Supernova ROM and just now I realized I never used the Desire to take photos in the dark so I actually never used the flash. That's why you will not find any info about it, we use our smartphones like they are meant to and think crap picture quality is a given
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That's probably the main reason it's not fixed. A lot people doesn't even know it's not working as it should and just expect crappy pictures at night.
Anyways, I tried the camera with Supernova (GB) and Oxygen (GB) and still same problem. I'm gonna test a Froyo based one, but I'm sure I also had this problem with stock Froyo.

swexican said:
That's probably the main reason it's not fixed. A lot people doesn't even know it's not working as it should and just expect crappy pictures at night.
Anyways, I tried the camera with Supernova (GB) and Oxygen (GB) and still same problem. I'm gonna test a Froyo based one, but I'm sure I also had this problem with stock Froyo.
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I've moved back to Leedroid 2.5.0 (Froyo) and the flash works waaaaayy better!
Also, on GB ROMs, I found that audio and video were recorded out of sync unless the videocamera resolution was set to 640x480 (VGA) or lower. On Leedroid 2.5.0, it records fine when set to 800x480 (WVGA) as well.

Hmm, I just installed a GB based ROM (Oxygen) on a friends Desire and the flash works perfectly, so maybe it's not software related? But some of you say it gets fixed going back to Froyo so that's weird... Maybe there are small differences between Desire editions?
Checking out my friends Desire I just realised it's not the flash being out of sync, it's just that my second flash never goes off. I only get the pre-flash and then it takes the picture without the second flash. Very frustrating!

My mistake man, I should have said its GB sense Roms that have the problem. GB aosp roms tend not to.
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I have the same problem.. Very dark photos in dark rooms with sense 3.0-3.5 roms.. Not with cm7 rom.... Why this is happenig is matter of rom or kernel?

averelgr said:
I have the same problem.. Very dark photos in dark rooms with sense 3.0-3.5 roms.. Not with cm7 rom.... Why this is happenig is matter of rom or kernel?
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No idea, but for the forseeable future we have to accept it as an inevitability when using any sense ROM with Android 2.3 or higher. Unfortunately.

Well, for me it also happens with Oxygen 2.3.1 and CM 7.1 so in my case it's not a matter of using Sense. Maybe I have a different hardware problem then... or something broken

[Q] Why is my sound gone after flashing Tiamat kernel?

So I'm not very familiar with this phone system, I am doing this for my sister. I recently installed CyanogenMOD-7.2.0 on her phone. The phone runs much better than when it was stock. (It is rooted and S-Off). The one issue she had stince gettng cyanogen on there was that the call volume (speaker volume too) was incredibly low. From reading I though that installing a different kernel would fix the issue. From what I read, the best AOSP Kernel for the incredible 2 was Tiamat. I went to
http://tiamat-dev.com/vivow/
I downloaded the latest gingerbread ROM Tiamat_Inc2-v1.1.5 to the external SD card. I wiped cache and davlik cache and flashed the kernel. Now there is no sound at all on the phone. NO call volume, No notifications, No media.
Any ideas what went wrong?
Any Suggestions on another kernel that will fix the sound issues?

Well a lot has changed since then. Tiamat is way outdated. Check out goo.im/devs/aeroevan/kernel/vivow. Grab v13 4.7 graphite.
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tylerlawhon said:
Well a lot has changed since then. Tiamat is way outdated. Check out goo.im/devs/aeroevan/kernel/vivow. Grab v13 4.7 graphite.
Sent from my KangBang'd out vivow
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Just so everyone can see, is an ICS kernel like this backwards compatible with the earlier Cyanogen ROMS?

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Just so everyone can see, is an ICS kernel like this backwards compatible with the earlier Cyanogen ROMS?
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The ICS kernel was made from the released Gingerbread kernel and hacked up by Aeroevan to work with ICS. It should be fine.
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Just so everyone can see, is an ICS kernel like this backwards compatible with the earlier Cyanogen ROMS?
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it was suggested not to try that though some did with no problem, I can't remember which kernel fixed that issue, it was only the latest cm that had the no sound issue, look at aeros post over on rootz, I believe it was a test kernel not in the op all others broke sound
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So I finally got around to flashing this kernel.
Good news: The sound is awesome, much louder
badnews: camera and video playback are broken...
Any additional info on these problems? I haven't seen any other issues YET. Is this fixable with a different version of the Kernel you suggested in the earlier thread or do I need an entirely new kernel?

After a few tries it seems I've figured it out. I used the latest ICS Tiamat kernel Tiamat_VivoW-v031412 and there are no audio issues and the camera and video playback are working. If I run into any other issues I will be sure to post.

[Q] Working Stock ICS or Jellybean ROMs?

I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?

suppersppy said:
I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .

Captain_Throwback said:
*sigh*
There's so much I want to say. But instead, I will say this:
This device is only officially supported through Android 2.3.5 (Gingerbread). Any Android versions past that do not have official drivers, so they would have to be built from scratch, for a device that has been EOL for quite a while. Thus, your statement "where everything works the way it should" doesn't make sense, as the device doesn't officially support running ICS or JB.
That being said, all of the ICS/JB ROMs suffer at the very least the same list of things not working - FFC, 4G, HDMI out, Netflix. Videocam can also be an issue on some. So, based on your criteria, you'll be sticking to Sprint-based Gingerbread Sense ROMs .
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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.

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Not sure why all the sighing and such but thanks for the info. It's hard to tell because it's not always clear what people base a ROM on and it seems like only about half the people posting ROMs list what doesn't work. I was hoping there might be a cynagenmod 9 or 10 for it at some point but it doesn't seem likely.
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CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.

Captain_Throwback said:
CM9 and CM10 both exist for the supersonic, but development has been discontinued on them. But that doesn't matter anyway; those features I already mentioned still don't work, so they're disqualified from your consideration.
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They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.

suppersppy said:
They exist but are not finished and only CM7 is listed on the cyanogenmod page under the HTC Evo.
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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.

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The CM9 and CM10 builds to which I refer are completed ROMs. They're just not officially supported by CyanogenMod. But they're built directly from CM source.
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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.

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To me finished means things work. I mean what makes it finished? Just that you are able to install it on the phone? If that were the case there was a finished version more than a year ago. Obviously cyanogen doesn't think it's finished either otherwise they would make it official.
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That's not what makes a CM build official or not. But I'm not going to bore you with facts you can find via Google. And yes, everything that can/should work work. But there are updates to drivers that can make things work better, or tweaks here and there that can be done. Besides the fact that Google releases updates/patches that need to be included.
Since I answered your original question, I will now digress.

Lol how many times a week are people going to ask about ics and jb builds with everything working, or official HTC releases without looking for themselves first before realizing they don't and wont ever exist. Yes they are finished, they boot, make calls, get data, the only things that dont work on em are 4g and FCC. Just unroot your phone and forget about it, you aren't cut out for this business son.
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^Harsh enough?
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You need to assess just how important some features are to you. If you only have an Evo, and somehow don't have an upgrade on your plan, then you have 2 options.
1: Keep it stock, everything works. No hassle, just poor battery life. Maybe get Superuser and remove the adware/junk if you feel like it.
2: Use a custom ROM which will not have working 4g, FFC, and other features that you won't know they don't work until you go to use them.
Weigh the pros and cons and make a choice, but everyone here so far is correct. The device is EOL and there will most likely never be a working ICS/JB build that has all features working. That would require too much work, for an EOL device.

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I have spent the last few hours searching all over, just like I do every few months, trying to find a stable ICS or Jellybean ROM with everything actually working. Finally decided to just post and ask for some help. I don't care about beats audio or any other stuff people add in, just plain stock is preferable, but I need wifi, 4g, youtube, and all the camera stuff to work. Are there any ICS or JB ROMs out there where everything works the way it should?
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If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.

BobWalker said:
If you must have all radios and hardware of the EVO 4G fully functional, you should stick with a gingerbread ROM v 2.3.5 or later. MikG 3.11 is a Sense based ROM that is well integrated and fully supports all EVO 4G operations. You can download MikG 3.11 at http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?10338-MikG-v3-11-3-9-2012.
As others have indicated, no ICS or Jellybean ROM supports 4G or the FFC. Sadly the necessary work for the hardware drivers is not likely to happen. If you do not require working 4G or FFC, there are a number of fully functional Android 4.0.4 (ICS) or 4.1.2 (Jellybean) ROMs available. I happen to like HALO Series II Nova http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903469&page=33 and AlienMOD Solar Flare Series V http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2086163 with the caveat that I am experiencing some tint issues with camera applications in these ROMs.
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This thread is almost 3 months old dude

Hey man BobWalker's got some catchin up to do-- there's at least a hundred threads he hasn't necro-bumped yet!
(Just kidding Bob- your posts have actually been pretty solid. Just givin you a hard time..)
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Try jmztaylor's unofficial CM9. It's my daily driver, and it's solid. 4G doesn't work, but Wifi, Youtube, and the camera all work perfectly.