All sytem apps date 01-08-08 ??? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I noticed all my system apps have the date on 01-08-08,
also they dont show any filesize ( 0 kb) in Quick system info & app manager..
I have rooted stock rom from teppic with a few mods.
The desire is working normaly so i don't think I have to worry to much about it,
but would like to know what could be the issue.
I must say I did remove some of them using adb in RM and cleared dalvik cache everytime
after removing them.
grtz

maybe it is best that you flash another rom. definetly there is something wrong but not sure what.
Lanbase said:
Hi, I noticed all my system apps have the date on 01-08-08,
also they dont show any filesize ( 0 kb) in Quick system info & app manager..
I have rooted stock rom from teppic with a few mods.
The desire is working normaly so i don't think I have to worry to much about it,
but would like to know what could be the issue.
I must say I did remove some of them using adb in RM and cleared dalvik cache everytime
after removing them.
grtz
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mariosraptor said:
maybe it is best that you flash another rom. definetly there is something wrong but not sure what.
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Hmmm... I rather first find out what has caused this or run
in to trouble before I reflash, It was quite some work with all the added
mods.
I now remember that I used once wirelessadb which showed garbeld information
in the system/app/ folder and unusable that way.
Maybe that app could have messed the dates and sizes up.
grtz.
Edit: I just did a nandroid restore from before messing around with this wirelessadb, and the dates and sises
of the system apps where allready messed-up there. So that couldn't be the quilty one.

Related

why do devs put updated apps in /system?

i mean is there a benefit to doing it over the data part? only diff i'm aware of is that (in this case, street view) putting an app in the system bit means i can't update it and as i can't get adb working on my PC, then i have to :
backup all my apps, barr those in system, flash a new rom (but remove the apks from the zip file), then reinstall all apps again
i need google street view and since adb doesnt work, this is the only way that i know of how to do this.
They're put on /system/app as that's where they originally live...if it's an app from the Market it will update itself correctly
It's also a space thing as if they were all on /data/app then you'd eat up your space in no time (unless using A2SD)
umm, ok stupid queston, why is it then no matter whose rom i try (here or modaco), if an app is on /system it is never updated? i *always* get an error during installation
few weeks back, it was google maps, now it's the updated street view.
i've flashed a new rom now but removed street.apk from the zip and can now install just fine, and can update as needs be.
I dunno, I'm stock and just today had Flash and Maps update automatically
If your system apps won't update there's something wrong with your custom ROM.
it wouldn't just be me then though?
i'm using leedroids latest and that's not updating, same with opendesire earlier on, modaco ones etc etc
Are you wiping before you install the ROMs? I've never had a problem updating system apps via the market in my ROM.
of course. full wipe
tommo123 said:
of course. full wipe
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just uninstall the app and re-install it from market
You can't if its on the system partition. Updates go on the /data/ partition, though...
Other way is to get the APK in question and install it using a file manager, it'll do the same thing
uninstalling also isn't allowed, neither is updating. it seems that once it's there, it's there.
now, i've got adb working and can list what's in system etc but it gave a read only error when i was trying to 'rm Street.apk'
remount didn't appear to be a valid option. alls working now anyways. just need to remember to remove certain apks from a zip before flashing.
funky
You *can* update system apps with market updates, as has been said before. The app remains on the system partition and the phone uses the data version instead. If it's not working for you I don't know why, but it's absolutely fine for me.
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
j5m said:
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
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Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
teppic74 said:
Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
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Thats great for you, and i appreciate that you do that with your rom +mods, but it means relying on you. Would be good if android would have it as an inbuilt function.
But i guess with newer phones having increased internal storage + a2sd this won't be an issue for much longer.
It's never going to happen as part of standard Android, because the system partition is read only. Also the system has to be a set standard in order to allow upgrades to work.

Make the Market download apks to SD Card

Hello everyone.
I've recently switched to the Data++ Hboot with 10MB cache. Ever since then I haven't been able to download large apps from the Market.
I was wondering how to make the Market save the APK's on the SD Card instead of the cache partition. If I remember correctly this has been implemented in a number of ROMs, including the Oxygen ROM to name one. Where would I change that?
Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...
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Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...
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Oh I see they've updated their website. I'm using an older version of Data++ (System 180M, Cache 10M, Data 261M). I still have the img plus a screenshot of the website to compare MD5, if you're interested.
Well, it was just a guess. Downloads to Angry Birds (both versions) and Rocket Bunnies are not working, to name a few. Since they're all over 10MB I assumed it was due to the smaller cache partition. I'm also using A2SD btw.
Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it
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Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it
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Oh I see, I was under the impression the apks get saved on the cache partition. In that case, I should look for the problem elsewhere. Yes, I'm running the latest Sense ROM (2.29 with the 5 ending), but modified to suit my needs. I guess it could be related to that.
More info about the 'non-downloading'. When I click on install in the Market, the download icon appears quickly in the notification bar and then quickly disappears. Was this the same problem you were having?
In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...
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In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...
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Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.
tkm89 said:
Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.
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Hmm, yea. The thing that's really frustrating is I still don't know what the problem was in my case..if I did I could've been a little bit more helpful. In my "rage" I just flashed a new kernel and a new ROM and that sorted out the problem for me....didn't stop to wonder what was actually causing it.
EDIT: I think changing the kernel, especially, did it for me...
Hmm…
I have the same problem (except my /cache is 3MB so I can't download files larger than that).
Funny though, it used to work just fine (I have Angry Birds and flash for example), it has only recently started to act up.
If anyone finds a solution (possibly without flashing), I'll be quite grateful
P.S.
When my download fails (downloading icon simply disappears), my logcat shows DownloadManager reporting that there is not enough space (with about 60MB on /data) and then Vending complains about the file not being found (because DownloadManager didn't download it).
Seems like a bug in DownloadManager to me. It probably doesn't look up the cache (mine is in /data/cache IIRC) but uses the free space on /cache to determine if there is enough to fit the .apk.
I'm now working on same think. Need to Market downloading apps to SD card instead of /cache. So is there any tweak for this?
Yep.
Requires a little bit of knowledge about how linux handles mount points.
Basically, the easiest way is to bind mount a folder on the sdcard/data to /cache.
I get this .. I just clear the market cache ... go back into the market , all fine .
I normally have to " download " stuff 3 times , before it installs.

Market app (v3.1.5) force close

ROM: Cyanogenmod-7-09192011-NIGHTLY-Desire
Market version: 3.1.5
Every time I start market it works perfectly 4-5 seconds, and than I get message "The application Market (proces com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly." And "force close" option.
I had no problem with market v2.
New market doesn't like my 5MB cache partition, even though its bound to data. The logcat shows this
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It was working fine on cm7 here, ensure the correct permission are set
Anyway I removed it as it is completely unusable under low edge connection, even on wifi its slow
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Works fine so far on my device running oxygen 2.2.2 and oxygen r2 hboot. No problem downloading even with bigger files.
But like mentioned before it's totally not useable under slow connections, so back to version 2 for now.
I figured out that version 3.1.3 is working normally and version 3.1.5 not.
I unistalled updates to v2 but few minutes later it has been auto updated do 3.1.5 again.
Remove MarketUpdater.apk from /system/app. But make a backup before, just in case. Or are you on stock rom?
This same thing is happening to my wife's Desire. I have her on cm7 RC1 and AlphaRev's modified partition sizes. I can't remember if I had her cache size reduced or not.
Anyone find a solution for this yet?
cbstryker said:
This same thing is happening to my wife's Desire. I have her on cm7 RC1 and AlphaRev's modified partition sizes. I can't remember if I had her cache size reduced or not.
Anyone find a solution for this yet?
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You could try making an expandable ramdisk for cache. Im going to try this again when I get chance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992176
on cm7 with 5mb cache partition it works..so i dont think its a problem with the cache..
maybe some crap market data somewhere in the rom..to make a clean thing, u should remove at all the market from ur system..reboot couple of times (without market, so the market data should be deleted) then push the new market in system and i wuould say it should work for sure
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on cm7 with 5mb cache partition it works..so i dont think its a problem with the cache..
maybe some crap market data somewhere in the rom..to make a clean thing, u should remove at all the market from ur system..reboot couple of times (without market, so the market data should be deleted) then push the new market in system and i wuould say it should work for sure
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Ok, that's good to hear. I hate having to do system critical stuff to her phone cause my luck tends to bricks things time to time, and if it's my phone then no big deal, I can take the time to fix it. But when it's hers.... well, you know. Took me long enough to convince her to let me flash cm7.
I'll try to do your suggestion and I'll report back.
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on cm7 with 5mb cache partition it works..so i dont think its a problem with the cache..
maybe some crap market data somewhere in the rom..to make a clean thing, u should remove at all the market from ur system..reboot couple of times (without market, so the market data should be deleted) then push the new market in system and i wuould say it should work for sure
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Its definitely something to do with cache.
Code:
purchase to PURCHASE_COMPLETED, the tickle was faster.
17:36:17.517 Debug Finsky 1164 [1] DownloadAndInstallGetAssetListener.downloadAndInstall: Will receive a tickle instead for download.
17:36:17.625 Error 1164 statfs /cache/download failed, errno: 13
17:36:17.625 Debug AndroidRuntime 1164 Shutting down VM
But what can market data do to cache?
of course u should have the /cache/download symlinked to /data/..somewhere..i dont have that error..do u have that symlink?
EDIT: btw i found statfs errno = 13 mean permission denied..so it fails to execute the statfs command..are the permissions correct for the /cache/download/? Maybe the new market do some additional checks
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of course u should have the /cache/download symlinked to /data/..somewhere..i dont have that error..do u have that symlink?
EDIT: btw i found statfs errno = 13 mean permission denied..so it fails to execute the statfs command..are the permissions correct for the /cache/download/? Maybe the new market do some additional checks
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Its a bind rather than simlink, but yes, same script as CM now use. It happens both with and without. I'll have a look at that though...
EDIT - Changed from rwxrwx--x to rwxrwxrwx, reboot, no change.
So I had the market 3.1.5 force closing all over me with a desire with cm7.0.2 so I went googleing and found a weird solution. Go to 'Settings > Language & keyboard > Language' and select 'English (US)'. If already selected, select it again. Works like a charm now.
headcleaner said:
So I had the market 3.1.5 force closing all over me with a desire with cm7.0.2 so I went googleing and found a weird solution. Go to 'Settings > Language & keyboard > Language' and select 'English (US)'. If already selected, select it again. Works like a charm now.
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I dont have english US. Contradiction in terms
rootSU said:
I dont have english US. Contradiction in terms
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Well, maybe it works with other languages as well. Doesn't hurt to try, does it?
headcleaner said:
Well, maybe it works with other languages as well. Doesn't hurt to try, does it?
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I havent got any other languages.
headcleaner said:
So I had the market 3.1.5 force closing all over me with a desire with cm7.0.2 so I went googleing and found a weird solution. Go to 'Settings > Language & keyboard > Language' and select 'English (US)'. If already selected, select it again. Works like a charm now.
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Solved my problem, thanks!
headcleaner said:
So I had the market 3.1.5 force closing all over me with a desire with cm7.0.2 so I went googleing and found a weird solution. Go to 'Settings > Language & keyboard > Language' and select 'English (US)'. If already selected, select it again. Works like a charm now.
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Thanks! My new market is working fine now!
Strange method but cool!
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Solved my problem, thanks!
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gnaishes said:
Thanks! My new market is working fine now!
Strange method but cool!
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awesome!

I have been Hacked!

Yeah..as the title says.. 3 weeks ago this hacker hacked into my network..
placed rootkits in all my 3 computers and then hacked its way to my Desire and my wifes iphone. good thing i had wireshark running same time.
So.. 5 units hacked with the method in like 1 houre. Bad luck for me i guess.
And kaspersky didnt give me any warnings at all. bye bye kaspersky.
Anyway... i flashed my desire's HBOOT just to be sure. after i did a check with "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" all kinds of malware services was attached to most of my apps.
1- downgraded HBOOT
2- flashed stock HBOOT from alpharev
3- Changed recovery from CWM to 4EXT as i suspected the recovery being infected somehow.
I checkd my log... the hacker had removed some files and moved shell files from an folder to another as well as busybox and so on. it was so many i thought il be better of installing new ROM.
I tried with Gingervillain first... everything installed fine..
checking with "root explorer" i see same files that had been moved and added was still there.
OK.. i tried again..
full wipe with 4ext and then installed Runnymede.. still.. when i check my root partition most of the files still there and i get same results doing a root check.
any idees...? im not sure if my kernel is right. it should be, when i installed Runnymede. when checking kernel v.
it says.. "[email protected] #11"
May be kernel rootkit? does the kernel start before recovery?
can someone plz confirm this?
baseband seem to be the same
any advise as for how to start from scratch will be much appreciated.
Clawsman said:
full wipe with 4ext and then installed Runnymede.. still.. when i check my root partition most of the files still there and i get same results doing a root check.
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Full wipe wipes /cache, /data and /sd-ext to my knowledge. There is a possibility some of the files remain on /system. Use 4EXT to manually format each partition using format option.
Clawsman said:
it says.. "[email protected] #11"
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That seems in order. Long name in attach marks modules added to that kernel.
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Ok
well.. i did the format manually in 4EXT.
I suspect some files still to be there..also some boot files containing malware script.
what file contains the boot script? i mean.. what file is the first to be triggered when booting in HBOOT. because many things in the recovery doesnt seem right. and the hboot fastrecovery starts with a delay.
Like when i want to partition or when i want to format all partitions except sd. Acts like it doesnt want to.
Anyway.. was just wondering if i could just adb and delete every file folder that is in in my phone and then flash recovery and ROM again.
Is that what RUU does?
is that something to recomend?
RUU is complete wipe of everything. /system, /hboot etc.
Download the correct one for your phone, *follow its instructions* (may need a gold card - google it) and run it on a clean pc.
Clean your pc ie format and reinstall after taking backups.
Then start again wit ha new hboot/rom setup.
Is that even possible? Infecting an Android phone via a Wi-fi network?
And Recovery shouldn't be able to get infected. I think ONLY /data can, and eventually /system if it's mounted as RW.
But on a wipe data gets deleted, and on a ROM install /system and boot (which holds the kernel and ramdisk) is deleted anyway.
RADIO starts before HBOOT. And there's absolutely no way they can be infected.
To be safe:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase recovery *OVERKILL*
Then just do fastboot flash recovery {RECOVERY}
And there's nothing more you must do. HBOOT reflashing is 100% pointless.
Maybe top-notch hackers are shifting their interest from hacking NASA, FBI and similar organizations in the US to hacking Android phones. Or maybe it's one of their favourite ways to have fun in their idle time. Who knows?
Anyways, here's a Thanks from me, mr. Andrei, for your contribution to this community.
TVTV said:
Maybe top-notch hackers are shifting their interest from hacking NASA, FBI and similar organizations in the US to hacking Android phones. Or maybe it's one of their favourite ways to have fun in their idle time. Who knows?
Anyways, here's a Thanks from me, mr. Andrei, for your contribution to this community.
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I do what i can. There are many devs that know much more than me. Your thanks are appreciated
For me it's still strange, tho. Only data and system could be "infected"
Take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399076
It's a scheme i made on how HTC and Nexus devices work. (How they boot, what are the individual partitions, etc)
Clawsman said:
Yeah..as the title says.. 3 weeks ago this hacker hacked into my network..
placed rootkits in all my 3 computers and then hacked its way to my Desire and my wifes iphone. good thing i had wireshark running same time.
So.. 5 units hacked with the method in like 1 houre. Bad luck for me i guess.
And kaspersky didnt give me any warnings at all. bye bye kaspersky.
Anyway... i flashed my desire's HBOOT just to be sure. after i did a check with "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" all kinds of malware services was attached to most of my apps.
1- downgraded HBOOT
2- flashed stock HBOOT from alpharev
3- Changed recovery from CWM to 4EXT as i suspected the recovery being infected somehow.
I checkd my log... the hacker had removed some files and moved shell files from an folder to another as well as busybox and so on. it was so many i thought il be better of installing new ROM.
I tried with Gingervillain first... everything installed fine..
checking with "root explorer" i see same files that had been moved and added was still there.
OK.. i tried again..
full wipe with 4ext and then installed Runnymede.. still.. when i check my root partition most of the files still there and i get same results doing a root check.
any idees...? im not sure if my kernel is right. it should be, when i installed Runnymede. when checking kernel v.
it says.. "[email protected] #11"
May be kernel rootkit? does the kernel start before recovery?
can someone plz confirm this?
baseband seem to be the same
any advise as for how to start from scratch will be much appreciated.
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An example of those infecting file?? What file in your root partition?? What path? Rom files are only on /system
Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus usando Tapatalk
I never use a anti virus and until now never have a problem...As i know!
Well it happened to me..
I have deleted everything.. I remember i checkd my log, and busybox files was moved to the system folder.. And all kinds of services was attached to Google map, calender, Facebook, wifi apps, market, etc..
And new apps installed like vpn, cam apps, recorders.. etc
Im currently using the free lookout...
And want to Buy a security tool.
Any advice Will be much appreciated.
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*SOLVED*[Market crashing constantly]-The app Market(process com.android.vending)

I just installed cyanogen mod 7.2 stable(It's a clean install and i have wiped every thing) following that installed the latest gapps package(gapps-gb-20110828-signed).
The market would not even load and crash constantly.
I have tried these tips:
1.Cleared data and cache (settings-> applications-> market -> Then clearing cache)
2.Wiped Dalvik cache
3.Fixed permissions.
4.Changed "language"
5.Re-installed gapps package.
All this was to no avail.
Downloaded "jelly bean" market and installed it.
Now the market would load ok but it crashes when i try to download some application.It sucks.
Any suggestion ?
Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.
Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps
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Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps
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Not working....yes,I am flashing the right gapps zip.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
I have also verified the MD5 checksum.
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Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.
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Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.
What about going to Setting > Manage applications > Market > Force close
I know you may have tried it and seems silly but i had a problem updating my apps and i did this and everything seems to work. What about a reboot?
Edit: I found this temporary workaround so see if this helps!
Here is what I did:
1- go to app manager from settings,
2- uninstall the latest version of google play store
3- clear data and cache of google play store
4- install version Google Play Store v3.5.19
5- when you open the market, google will still prompt you to update to the latest version (dont continue, leave it as it is)
6- if you want to update/install the apps do it thru the browser in your phone/computer (it will straight away update in your phone)
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Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.
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If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.
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If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.
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Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?
optimusodd said:
Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?
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I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.
saadislam said:
I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.
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Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".
optimusodd said:
Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".
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Try [mtd 140 20] . Like I said before reducing cache gave me force close. This configuration works fine for me. I was using cm7.2 stable since its release but now I am using lewa with the same partitions.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA
Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.
Sorry for double posting... Connection ish...
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slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.
HipHopBlond said:
Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239
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TBH I had done enough research to fix the issue.I did what one usually would have considered good research else it shouldn't have taken more than 5 endless days and nights
Even on CM forums,Android forums and several blogs.Don't know why couldn't find your post.
Anyway,"olu.danNY's" advice helped me else i was going to ditch CM7 for some other ROM .In my opinoin there should be a thread where users can update their working MTD partitions regarding their ROMs.
Right now I am running CM 7.2 Stable with [mtd 140 15] and some other users are running it even with [mtd 130 15]. i.e cache partiton was the root of the trouble.
olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I also prefer removing pre-installed apps using TB but that doesn't really help you that much.
Custom MTD partition does the real rescue and you can also use "S2E" to gain more space by moving apps to Ext partition e.g games,maps.Just make sure you don't move app data to Ext.
SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15
optimusodd said:
SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15
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YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...
eventcom said:
YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...
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Yep,I know CM7 has some sort of script that automatically moves cache to data partition if it overflows(larger than the cache size).
I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
No idea why it is causing trouble with CM7.2-Stable. Maybe it's lacking that script which makes it sufficent enough to run smoothly if cahce partition is <15.

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