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X Box Live Hub. Why not a PS3 hub?

I never owned an Xbox and never intend to. PS3 all the way. My question is I would hate having the X Box intergration, avatar, profile details etc as I don't own an X Box and feel it is included and I don't want it.
I hope some time in the future it can be changed to PS3 or WII for other gamers.

No. WP7 is not an open OS, nothing can be replaced or removed.
Sony can make a PS3 hub, but you will not be able to remove the XBox integration.
Sony will launch a new gaming handheld with Android soon, so PS3 integration is coming to Android.

I'm not trying to be rude but that's a bit of a ridiculous question, it's like asking Steve Jobs to put Android apps on Apple TV instead of their own.

No I agree it is a bit of a stupid question but I just wanted to rant

The Live on the console and Live on your phone don't have to be related. If you have it for the xbox, then great, you can integrate it to your phone and have your phone build off of it. If you don't have the Xbox, you can just create an account and every game that you play on your WP7 will count towards your Live account.
It's not like you need have an xbox in order to enjoy your WP7. They can be independent.

tboy2000 said:
I never owned an Xbox and never intend to. PS3 all the way. My question is I would hate having the X Box intergration, avatar, profile details etc as I don't own an X Box and feel it is included and I don't want it.
I hope some time in the future it can be changed to PS3 or WII for other gamers.
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I know this pulls away from the phone question, but why have you just dismissed xbox? It's so much better at online gaming and on par with single player. Xbox live is simply the best online gaming portal by a massive margin anyone I have known who owns both consoles end up finding the ps3 sat collecting dust or as just a bluray player. I think anyone who has dismissed xbox should take it for another go esp now live is on mobile phones.

Xbox Live is bar none better than any other platform to date. If you have never used or owned an Xbox 360, you should not have any negative opinion, as that just shows how biased you are. And why would MS give Nintendo or Sony the ability to add their own game hub over Xbox Live? That doesn't make any sense.

chrislynch said:
Xbox Live is bar none better than any other platform to date. If you have never used or owned an Xbox 360, you should not have any negative opinion, as that just shows how biased you are. And why would MS give Nintendo or Sony the ability to add their own game hub over Xbox Live? That doesn't make any sense.
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Its not that I am biased its just that I already own a next gen games console and have for years - a ps3 and i don't want to spend a money on a second console. I am not a gamer who has multiple consoles. One is enough for me and I have had a psx, ps2 so naturally I chose a ps3. Am sure xbox is great. I just dont intend to get another next gen console. Would rather put the money towards a HD7

You don't need to buy the Xbox in order to enjoy Live on your wp7.

tboy2000 said:
Its not that I am biased its just that I already own a next gen games console and have for years - a ps3 and i don't want to spend a money on a second console. I am not a gamer who has multiple consoles. One is enough for me and I have had a psx, ps2 so naturally I chose a ps3. Am sure xbox is great. I just dont intend to get another next gen console. Would rather put the money towards a HD7
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Cool. What does this have to do with XBL on the phone?

chrislynch said:
Xbox Live is bar none better than any other platform to date. If you have never used or owned an Xbox 360, you should not have any negative opinion, as that just shows how biased you are. And why would MS give Nintendo or Sony the ability to add their own game hub over Xbox Live? That doesn't make any sense.
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thats only a matter of opinion....ive got both... used the xbox online for about a month and when the free subscription ran out i continued to use my ps3 for online purposes. the xbox online service offered nothing extra i required for the fee. and online gaming is only as good as the number of friends you know online to play against... if everyone is on a different platform then its no fun at all! everyone i know plays online on their ps3 and keeps their xbox for playing backups lol.
its not really a solution to suggest to someone that they abandon their games console which they might of had for years and built up a substantial games library. and then purchase a whole new system and start afresh just so they can take advantage of an application on a mobile phone! lol.
i can see the need for a ps3 (or wii) app but its also obvious that microsoft arent going to supply it integrated with their shiny new phone operating system from the offset. it would be interesting if sony or someone develops their own application. but i think it will be as someone already suggested...if an app does appear it will be on android.

anothadave said:
its not really a solution to suggest to someone that they abandon their games console which they might of had for years and built up a substantial games library. and then purchase a whole new system and start afresh just so they can take advantage of an application on a mobile phone! lol.
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XBL on WP7, ignoring the console altogether, is the best mobile online gaming experience all on it's own. The only thing close is Game Center on iPhone and XBL for WP7 easily takes the cake. While owning an Xbox would potentially enhance this further, it is by no means necessary.

tboy2000 said:
I never owned an Xbox and never intend to. PS3 all the way. My question is I would hate having the X Box intergration, avatar, profile details etc as I don't own an X Box and feel it is included and I don't want it.
I hope some time in the future it can be changed to PS3 or WII for other gamers.
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I also hate Xbox but remember wp7 is a microsoft product same as Xbox that is why you have no choice may be sonyericsson will add ps3 support

Sony ericson? A division of sony? Wonder if they'll add xbl support ;p
Do you realize how dumb that sounds. Anyways I'd buy a Wii over a PS3 if I had to do it over again. Just got a 360 a couple weeks ago tho, and liking it.
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RustyGrom said:
XBL on WP7, ignoring the console altogether, is the best mobile online gaming experience all on it's own. The only thing close is Game Center on iPhone and XBL for WP7 easily takes the cake. While owning an Xbox would potentially enhance this further, it is by no means necessary.
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Actually playing real time online or local multiplayer games live, IOS pawns every mobile OS.

vetvito said:
Actually playing real time online or local multiplayer games live, IOS pawns every mobile OS.
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Well yea because it's not even possible in WP7, yet. But that's not really XBL. Once MS adds sockets support to WP7, it will take the crown in every facet.

real time multiplayer games are comning sometime early to mid next year.
And when its on XBL, multiplayer experience has to be great.

You say that you are not biased but:
"I never owned an Xbox and never intend to. PS3 all the way."
That sounds pretty close-minded and biased. And the question is silly. Why not use Bing as the default search engine on a Google phone?
Now, the decision is by no means one that hinders the phone. XBL is the best online gaming service out there. So, unlike the decision to use Bing as the only search engine in WP7, XBL is the best available.
I sold my old elite cuz I needed the money. I would like to get one back and a Windows Phone. I may seem like a Microsoft fool, but I actually prefer the Wii and Motorola Phones. Maybe Moto will make a Q WP7

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You say that you are not biased but:
"I never owned an Xbox and never intend to. PS3 all the way."
That sounds pretty close-minded and biased. And the question is silly. Why not use Bing as the default search engine on a Google phone?
Now, the decision is by no means one that hinders the phone. XBL is the best online gaming service out there. So, unlike the decision to use Bing as the only search engine in WP7, XBL is the best available.
I sold my old elite cuz I needed the money. I would like to get one back and a Windows Phone. I may seem like a Microsoft fool, but I actually prefer the Wii and Motorola Phones. Maybe Moto will make a Q WP7
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Its pretty weird. MSFT first sues Motorola and then the next day you hear that MSFT and MOTO might be collaborating on a WP7 device.

theomni said:
real time multiplayer games are comning sometime early to mid next year.
And when its on XBL, multiplayer experience has to be great.
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By that time, there will be another iphone, and a ton more actually live games.
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Its pretty weird. MSFT first sues Motorola and then the next day you hear that MSFT and MOTO might be collaborating on a WP7 device.
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Same thing happened with HTC. Old business tactic. Can't say that I blame Microsoft though.

XBox Live games that are multi-player online?

Although XBox live on WP7 supports turn-by-turn games played against other gamers on XBox live, I can't for the life of me find a single game that supports this. I fancied a game of monopoly or somesuch against a mate of mine who has an XBox but that's a no-go apparently.
Anyone? Are there any yet?

i don't believe so, but really, it's up to the game makers to utilise this.

I've seen a chess game that utilizes this afaik

I was very very disappointed when I found UNO and Monopoly did not have multiplayer.
I am not trying to dog the OS or MS but this is their chance to focus on these types of features and something I expected from the company known for XBOX live. Hopefully things will look up for multiplayer in the near future.

I think this may be coming soon, maybe they couldn't get it into the launch games.
The thing that makes me think this is that if you go into Earthworm Jim for example you select "Single player" but there is no Multiplayer option so why wouldn't they just call it "Play Game" or something.
I'm not making the best sense here but hopefully someone gets what I'm on about.

Alpha Jax is the only one and its not live. Unless the January update brings another version of WP7, there wont be any Live games.

I'm waiting for an Xbox Live MMORPG. Then I'll have to go buy an LG Quantum. And sign up another WP7. LOL.

Game Chest:Logic Games contains a Chess game. this appears to be multiplayer, in that you can send out invites. But those invites can only be sent out by email, and there is no support for your XBox Live friends list.
Not only that, but the email invites never arrive at their destination. I've sent out several, and none of them ever arrived.
Has anyone else had any success with it?

Talys said:
I'm waiting for an Xbox Live MMORPG. Then I'll have to go buy an LG Quantum. And sign up another WP7. LOL.
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I'm with you on this one lol. WoW mobile or something lol.

Unfortunately, for the launch of Windows Phone 7 there won't be any true multiplayer options besides turn-based games, though Kevin seemed to indicate that head-to-head gaming (whether over a local or wide network) was in the roadmap.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/16/xbox-live-launch-titles-for-windows-phone-7-finally-revealed-we/

Still trying to get a multiplayer game of Game Chest: Logic Games chess going but so far no joy. Tried sending a request to my work email address but it never came through. Does the person you're emailing also have to have an XBox Live account or something? I invited another mate of mine who does have an XBox Live account but still no joy.
Anyone have any luck?

What are WP7 Best Features???

MS really need to sort out its advertising campaign i think. Im in the UK and its all very quiet over here, those `really` wouldnt want me to buy a wp7. i was in the US and noticed the presence of WP7 a bit more... but still the question is what is the best way to advertise WP7. what would make you think... i want one of those!!!! doh ive clicked the poll button but it wont give me any options to sort the poll help!!! im sure this happened to me last time.

They need to show what the phone does instead of a bunch of people just using it. The big advantage wp7 has its its unique and fluid interface and they need to show this of more.
I also think they should push the zune pass a lot more as for the law abiding music lovers this is the best music service there is. It also would help if the uk got the 10 perminant downloads a month that the usa get.
As for its presence i don't know if i watch different tv to the rest of you (maybe as my wife makes me watch crap) but i see the wp7 adds more then any other phone though the iphone is very close second.
They also need to check the stores as they are not pushing it bar orange who from what i have seen are the only ones clued up and pushing it (even the tv adverts are for the mozart on orange). When i went to the o2 store the display had 2 demo phones but both where vandalized and just left and the display itself was tucked away round a corner. I think they should also send there own reps out to shopping malls like htc are doing for the desire range and push there brand with there own sales people, displays and demo's. Give people a chance to see it and be shown how it works properly they will love it but one thing i get from non phoney people is that it looks different so they don't know if they would be able to use it then once they see how easy it is there hooked but they need to be shown first before they are sure.

i wanted to poll this how can i do it? when i try polling it did not give me options to type what i wanted.

no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision

Need to tweet this thread to the world

davidebanks said:
no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision
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You are right mate. Office is nice. However this should at least match DocsToGo.
It is available for WM and Android.
Current Office is sweet but absolutely too limited.

Seriously, it's not one thing that really sets WP7, it's the INTEGRATION of ALL those things that sets it apart. When I show my focus off to people, I start with the integration with contacts to facebook (that I have their number/email) and show that I can write on their wall, send an email, txt and stuff and if they have an address, how I can quickly map it to Bing and then find directions. Also updating my facebook status and commenting. Then I show them the voice command for search to call people or find a place and directions. The dedicated camera button. Xbox games and it's graphics. I forget to show them Zune (but I don't have a zune pass) besides how if I go to a youtube video that it saves my recent history so I don't have to remember the site. I also show them pics uploading to facebook and show them how my pictures automatically upload to skydrive and tell them about the 25 GB free of online storage.
It's really how all those things come together which is why I love my WP7. It's SYNERGY! lol.

davidebanks said:
no business users on xda? would have thought that wp7 office would have scored some points. im always using wp7 office i tend not to write stuff on it but use it to transfer documents. come to think of it. wp7 office is the main reason why i stuck with windows mobile in the first place...after having the laggy htc diamond 2 i wanted some slighty bigger and far quicker and was being drawn towards the dark side when wp7 came along. all the other stuff, like zune, xbox live cemented my decision
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I hope you are not serious about business users. As our Chief Security Officer put it for our CEO and CTO when they brought their wp7 devices to work and wanted integrate them with our Exchange environment: "leave the toys at home".
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lqaddict said:
I hope you are not serious about business users. As our Chief Security Officer put it for our CEO and CTO when they brought their wp7 devices to work and wanted integrate them with our Exchange environment: "leave the toys at home".
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Puhleeezee....

Forget the rest of the features, it's going to be Xbox Live that sells it to the mainstream.. they've already started advertising this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNWL-WdzsM

wspaw said:
Puhleeezee....
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Believe it or not but setting AllowSimplePassword was more than enough to violate the security policy enforced http://social.technet.microsoft.com...tions-when-using-windows-phone-7-clients.aspx
The subject of on-device encryption just put a final nail.
It might be ok for small businesses not to care about these policies but large organizations rely on the security provided by the Exchange if they care about security of their email transactions.
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I went into O2 today and asked to see the HTC HD7 (was with a friend and left mine at home). and the guy said, yes, but we also have the iPhone and took us to it without asking me. Which greatly saddened me as the WP7 has better features like (bing search to find places near you faster, back button, smooth/glossy/simple interface, Xbox live, better music marketplace, better SDK ect). but if you don't know much, you would have go to the iPhone. Yet another idiot who doesn't know anything about phones. Selling phones >.<.

All of them partially! I mean none of them separately is SO amazing but TOGETHER...
You don't believe Facebook is the only key selling point.
You may laugh but office IS important too.
The mix is important. Fluid modern OS. And integrity with MS services.
Also the fact that WP7 devices are highend. Good browser and Email. Homescreen.

Its a tough choice I think which comes down to personal preferance at least it shows that wp7 has a lot of good things working for it. Looks like Xbox live is taking a good lead Microsoft would be wise to exploit their Xbox users to give wp7 a good advantage over other phones

wspaw said:
Puhleeezee....
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Agree, Lol!
WP7 actually has better Exchange support than Android, and the data on the devices are more secure than on Android devices.
But given who you quoted, I'm not surprised

Looks like I'm only 1 of 2 who voted for the Bing search. I really like the voice integration and the way it gives you the 3 categories. News, web, local.

action_efn_jackson said:
Looks like I'm only 1 of 2 who voted for the Bing search. I really like the voice integration and the way it gives you the 3 categories. News, web, local.
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Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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N8ter said:
Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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and it's US only.

Fine for most business users
lqaddict said:
Believe it or not but setting AllowSimplePassword was more than enough to violate the security policy enforced http://social.technet.microsoft.com...tions-when-using-windows-phone-7-clients.aspx
The subject of on-device encryption just put a final nail.
It might be ok for small businesses not to care about these policies but large organizations rely on the security provided by the Exchange if they care about security of their email transactions.
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Exactly. I own 2 small businesses and WP7 is fine (better that WM and Android for me). I'd wager most WP7 users are not in large corporate environments where email security is on the forefront - I can't imagine anyone hacking my phone for my email.
davidebanks was serious in recommending WP7 for business users. Probably the majority of them, as there are many, many industries with mobile needs that don't need such airtight email security (it can still be fairly secure, btw).
To say that he shouldn't be serious and to quote your Chief Security Officer's cute little one-liner dismissing every device on the platform as a toy is a disservice to those using this tread for what it is intended for. There is a thread comparing WP7 to Android, btw.

N8ter said:
Google has this. The differences are mostly in the user interface. It's not an advantage.
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As in a Google App or Andriod OS?

Rumor: Future Microsoft OS to run phones, PCs, tablets, consoles

Hey guys, I just reported on a story that you may be interested in checking out. Very exciting news if it's true.
http://windowsphonedaily.blogspot.com/2011/07/rumor-future-microsoft-os-to-run-phones.html
Original source:
http://thisismynext.com/2011/07/14/microsoft-one-ecosystem-pcs-tablets-phones-tvs-windows-brand-over/
Here's the important part:
Turns out that almost exactly describes something we heard from a source the other day, and we’ve got some more details that point to a far more radical plan within Microsoft. What we’ve been told is that Microsoft is planning to somehow harmonize not only Windows for PCs and Windows Phone, but also the Xbox operating system sometime within the next four years — a timeframe that perfectly lines up with both the end of the Xbox 360′s 10-year lifecycle and the end of Windows 8′s expected three-year run. That would mean Microsoft’s next next OS will run on PCs, tablets, phones, and the next-gen Xbox when it hits sometime in 2015 / 2016. Yes, it sounds crazy, but it fits perfectly within the broad outlines Lees confirmed during his keynote yesterday. And that’s not even the wildest part.
Our sources also tell us that Microsoft is seriously considering ditching the “Windows” brand name in favor of something new when all this goes down. The idea is to rebrand this new super-OS with something that better fits with Redmond’s vision of the future. Obviously that could well change over the next few years as this plan takes shape — Steve Ballmer in particular has always been quite enamored with the Windows brand — but dropping the name is apparently at least on the table, and that’s a big step.
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Interesting. Although many rumors say a new Xbox will be out before that time frame.

I love what Microsoft is planning! Too bad for me the one breaking that link would be the video game console. Xbox sucks. PS3 FTW! in everything else though, I'm a MS supporter, so lets do it big!

No surprise as quad core 2.5 GHz SoC's are right around the corner. Computer hardware isn't moving as fast as these mobile chipsets. In a matter of a few yrs, they're catching up. Plus they use far less power.

I think this makes total sense, and it was just a matter of time. The Windows 8 interface looks like the next level of computing. It doesn't make sense to have tool bars, and icons, and little notification things all over the place. And these tiles really are "windows", so it just reinforces their brand. Good stuff.
Back to video games, the transition to the next gen consoles will be interesting. Online play is SO huge now compared to what it was, how will they transition it all? I'm guessing that xbox live will stay as is, but 360 users won't be able to play with 720 users? But could probably still stay on the same friends list, join parties, etc. At least that woul make the most sense.

With all of Windows new announcements, the future of Windows is actually pretty exciting. [/nerdout]
Regardless of which console is better, being able to seamlessly move from phone to pc to tablet to xbox is going to be pretty good.

I'm curious why they haven't already. current hardware in phones are capable of 1080p output, recording, etc.
either there is a huge markup on pc's, or someone hasn't decided huge boxes full of unefficient parts is silly. think atrix like hardware... a quad core cpu in a phone sized pc... plug in a 500gb hdd, connect screen, bluetooth keyboard/mouse... viola

On the topic:
The idea of one OS for all sorts of devices is logical and consequent move following modern trends. I see no reason why products of one company should all have different interfaces. Super powerful phones will be able to run it without problems.
I will welcome this on two conditions:
1) Don't base the whole data communication on cloud only (like some parts of WP7 now)
2) Give us those sqared icons/hubs under start menu and keep the PC homescreen idea - with customizable looks and feel. I mean seeing those squares as a main screen on black background is depressive and claustrophobic experience, just like WP7.....

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A unified Windows experience would be awesome though...
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Possibly would be. We'd all have to see how the implementation works out though. As a general idea though, it's not a bad idea. It's something Bill Gates was pushing back before he retired. I believe that's why Live Mesh came out.

hurting sales ?
one of the reasons I think you'll never see this on windows, or apple:
4.5" screen phone/tab/whatever, quad core, dlna, huge 3000mah battery, here's the scenario....
make a phone call on it on the way home... unlock the house (bluetooth), walk in, toss it on the counter charger and shower. plop on the couch for some entertainment, fire up the bluetooth keyboard/mouse and dlna the phone (is phone accurate anymore?) to the big screeen on the wall.
rent a movie
email
google+ (facebook is dead, or will be in another week)
surf a little
make a LTE video call to mom (broadband cable just died too)
grab phone from charger and log you midnight run
possible ? yep, with todays hardware, less the quad core in the phone.
what's missing? sales. 3 of them:
pc
gamebox
tablet
the phone killed them all,and a one-os-for-all-devices idea killed them. mmm, maybe microsoft forgot about all those license sales too ?
thoughts ?

ohgood said:
one of the reasons I think you'll never see this on windows, or apple:
4.5" screen phone/tab/whatever, quad core, dlna, huge 3000mah battery, here's the scenario....
make a phone call on it on the way home... unlock the house (bluetooth), walk in, toss it on the counter charger and shower. plop on the couch for some entertainment, fire up the bluetooth keyboard/mouse and dlna the phone (is phone accurate anymore?) to the big screeen on the wall.
rent a movie
email
google+ (facebook is dead, or will be in another week)
surf a little
make a LTE video call to mom (broadband cable just died too)
grab phone from charger and log you midnight run
possible ? yep, with todays hardware, less the quad core in the phone.
what's missing? sales. 3 of them:
pc
gamebox
tablet
the phone killed them all,and a one-os-for-all-devices idea killed them. mmm, maybe microsoft forgot about all those license sales too ?
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I don't see that as missing any sales. It's just that the sales will be structured differently. There will still be consoles, service and content providers, and other ways (possibly not even considered yet) to "network" the phone you describe.
Did the creation of satellite TV services kill cable? No, they adapted. Did Hulu kill either of those services? No. I don't see the scenario you described lessening sales in any respect. I just see smart businesses adapting to take advantage of it. The new Ford MyTouch system is a perfect example of that.

Well I can already send music via DLNA from my Phone to my TV using an LG E900 and an xbox 360 running Windows Media Center. I know that more and more TVs will be getting DLNA and LAN built in but at least for the time being I will always need some kind of set top box (in this case the xbox).
Anyway, I actually like the idea. This way you could write an app that will run on phones, tablets and maybe even the xbox using touchscreens and kinect, respectivly.
Dropping the "Windows" name: Windows is currently mostly known for Windows on the PC as a client and server OS. Windows Phone is not that popular and "Windows" is generally associated with not-so-hip concerning anything but PCs (phones, slates).
Hence, dropping the "windows" name might be a smart move because people might not buy "Windows" for their phone or living room.

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What Tito said..^.^.^..
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eric12341 said:
if someone is going to say Xbox sucks then I have the right to say gaystation. the point is that should never have been said in a thread like this.
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You are wrong, this is a petty and childish response to a simple expression of opinion. Just because somebody expresses an opinion that you do not agree with does not entitle you to belittle that opinion. Especially when you resort to juvenile and homophobic insults to do so.
This thread is not about which consoles or social networks are better then the rest. If you wish to post please read the OP again and think about what your posting as any further derailment of this thread will result in its closure.
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Carry on.... business as usual...

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I thought I was on topic ? debating the possibility of it happening when sales would be hurt is off topic ?

ohgood said:
I thought I was on topic ? debating the possibility of it happening when sales would be hurt is off topic ?
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Your posts still there, I didnt delete or edit either of your posts...

WOW INTERESTING!! my comments get deleted but the Xbox sucks PS3 FTW still stands? isn't that off topic too? such a comment opinion or not should not have a place in this thread. seems that the mods have some bias against Xbox too ¡increíble! I think this integration is a great idea and I certainly don't see Sony doing anything to combat this other than to create a music unlimited app for android (which isn't even owned by them).

eric12341 said:
WOW INTERESTING!! my comments get deleted but the Xbox sucks PS3 FTW still stands? isn't that off topic too? such a comment opinion or not should not have a place in this thread. seems that the mods have some bias against Xbox too ¡increíble! I think this integration is a great idea and I certainly don't see Sony doing anything to combat this other than to create a music unlimited app for android (which isn't even owned by them).
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I could edit his post so that it reads;
"I'm not a fan of Xbox, I prefer the PS3" but its would still be an expression of the samne opinion. One which is loosely within the topic of the thread.
I absolutely refuse to remove the comment altogether as it used to emphasise the fact that the user likes the idea in general however that part does not interest them.
The problems arise when someone decides to pick up on such a trivial detail and turn it into the focal point of the thread.
Either way, this discussion is over. The thread is back on topic.
And just fyi, there is no bias here, I absolutely could not care less about either Xbox or PS3. I'd much rather fire up the N64 and play through "The Ocarina Of Time"
All that aside, this discussion is over. The thread is back on topic.

Huh.
I'm surprised my comments didn't survive either.

Not a rumor. But confirmed.
Also this is off topic for this board. :|
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Share your Acheivments Score..

Hi,
I think it would be nice if everyone can tell us each other their achievments score on XLive.. if your total includes score from Xbox than please mention it.. as Xbox players get higher scores easily..
My present AS is : 1825, all from Windows Phone games as I dont have Xbox ...
If you want to compare your scores with mine than you can always add me at: Pulakification.
I think its a shame that we have to be Xbox gold members in order to message each other.. sometime I get stuck in some level and I want to ask other players on my list how did they cleared it, but I can message them because I am not a Xbox Gold member.. also I think the 'gamer of the week' is always picked from Xbox gamers with gold membership...

I'm not sure what my exact GS is. Something around 12500 or so. Mostly achieved through XBox games though. If anybody wants to add me, see my signature.

mine is 4115. gotten mostly from Xbox games (GTA 4 containing the majority of them) and windows phone games,had my Xbox since Feb and my arrive since march so that's pretty good for 5 months. my GT is the same as here on the forums.

GT: Yannie Boy
107172
Game on my 360, HD7 and PC.

240
Yes, 240

Mine is 6700 about 1200 or so from WP7

i have an embarassing 365 pts.

moonshines said:
i have an embarassing 365 pts.
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Why embarassing? Honestly, these points don't mean sh*t. The only thing they indicate is that someone has way too much time to spend on games.

moonshines said:
i have an embarassing 365 pts.
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I have a lot of score only because I buy a crapload of game.. not because I am good at any.. I have only completed Need For Speed and Rocket Riot Acheivments.. all the rest I am stuck in some levels.. beside I am AS score sucker..
I have noticed that these new games which come out lately, all AS scores dont unlock easily untill you finish the game, once you reach the final levels all AS scores starts unlocking very quickly one by one...
On some games like Sonic and Ilomilo.. I am stuck at level 2 or something.. Ilomilo I dont know how to cross the first level itself..

What exactly is the point of the score? Can I buy something with it? Will anyone know me for it?
Seems like a pointless reward system to make one feel better about buying and playing a game, nothing more.

hx4700 Killer said:
What exactly is the point of the score? Can I buy something with it? Will anyone know me for it?
Seems like a pointless reward system to make one feel better about buying and playing a game, nothing more.
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You can't do anything with the gamer score (Mines only 1550 as of today), It's just like this. Compare with your friends and beat scores.
I guess the very, very high people might get into some contests or something but, over all, it's just bragging rights.
I never watched it really, I do play games on 360, PC, WP7...but, from getting my trophy with your scrore in your face every time you go into games, I am interested now. Good marketing I guess...
My Gamer tag is the same as my user name on XDA an other sites...DavidinCT (also on PSN too)

hx4700 Killer said:
What exactly is the point of the score? Can I buy something with it? Will anyone know me for it?
Seems like a pointless reward system to make one feel better about buying and playing a game, nothing more.
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not even! they help one to get the most out of games that they buy for more replay value. for example if this wasn't around one would get all the unlockables and then not play the game again but with achievements u can still play to get them all even after all the unlockables are unlocked so it's more than a "pointless reward system to make one feel better about buying and playing a game, nothing more". however u do have those who are obsessed with their GS and will buy the stupidest games just for an easy 1000-1500pts and as a result have a GS over 25,000.

The point of Acheivement Score is to give you a human opponent and competetion.. and whats the point of playing a game without any competition?

my ones 30025, all from 360, windows pc, and windows phone. got lots of games, some are finished, but most arent. still trying to get 5 more on parachute panic, 10 more on fruit ninja, and 9 more in ilomilo, and 7 more in max and the magic marker.
still waiting for microsoft money to come on windows phone 7.

hx4700 Killer said:
What exactly is the point of the score? Can I buy something with it? Will anyone know me for it?
Seems like a pointless reward system to make one feel better about buying and playing a game, nothing more.
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The point of that score is to get it as high as possible and to do that, you need to buy more games. Basically I think that it's a way to "trick" customers into buying more games to get an as high gamerscore as possible

downloaderintruder said:
still waiting for microsoft money to come on windows phone 7.
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People have been waiting from that from release date... and me too.

dkp1977 said:
Why embarassing? Honestly, these points don't mean sh*t. The only thing they indicate is that someone has way too much time to spend on games.
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that comment sounds really stupid on this thread. Yes the points dont mean much, but on a thread titled 'Share your achievements' you should be embarrased.

My GS is 3380, combo of XBox and WP7. Gamertag is Omnifather, feel free to add me.

eric12341 said:
[...snip...] however u do have those who are obsessed with their GS and will buy the stupidest games just for an easy 1000-1500pts and as a result have a GS over 25,000.
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Hey! I am not buying games for their GS and I am not obsessed with my Gamerscore - yet I have 26867 GS...
I do think they are a nice touch, really. It's like a permanent record of things I have done.
EDIT: GT is the same as my username

Omnifather said:
My GS is 3380, combo of XBox and WP7. Gamertag is Omnifather, feel free to add me.
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You know what a lot of people who write their gamertag and say feel free to add me.. and than when I add them, I get a message back like: "Who the hell are you? Do I know you??"
And than I cant even reply back to them because I dont have Gold Membership, I dont know what will I do with gold membership when I dont have Xbox and use only WP for my gaming...
That guy from Nokia release vedio from Sweden, with gamertag 'JiiKii', he in the starting of his Nokia phone presentation said 'Now you know my Live ID and you all can add me..' but I added him and he has not accepted me yet, one month now.. and I can even delete this request, its hang in their in 'pending' section..
And than someone with gamertag 'solaclipse' ... she wrote 'feel free to add me anytime' ... but when I did I got a message back 'who the hell are you?' and I cant reply back ...