Android will not boot - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android Development

Sorry if this topic has been put out before, I am sure I have seen the subject covered in the past but when I did not have the problem, but been searching and trying stuff all day to no joy. Sods Law.
I have an HTC TP2 from Vodafone (UK) running WM 6.5 Pro
I have been trying to install Ubuntu and Android, and managed to succeed with both working brilliantly. I had an issue with the Android(2.2 Froyo.112210 via the cab) that prevented me from switching over. There was no sound on the phone and notifications, I also noticed and assumed were related was the SD card was not available.
After some searching I found that the card needed formatting to FAT32, so did that after copying the contents on to my laptop, although as I hit the start button I realised it was already FAT32.
After formatting, via my Laptop using gparted and copying back the files it would not work. I could not boot up. I then tried deleting the SD card, inserting in to the phone and getting that to format the card. Again it would not work.
When I boot, I get the full script, and then it stops.... using a magnifying glass I can see that it states that it can not open the SD Card. the same now happens on the Ubuntu OS too, but the Windows Mobile is fine.
Any ideas, please?

Reformating allows boot, but still not visible after
Whilst I was writing the post I tried yet another format, and left my device updating the files over night.
Again to FAT 32 but this time I ensured, as per all references I had seen whilst searching that the formatting was done by my laptop using gParted.
I deleted the drive first using a right click (I use Ubuntu 10.04 on this machine) and then the gParted format.
Copied the files over, and then tried it this AM.
Worked as it did before I started this exercise. Looks great, has all the apps, network, etc but no SD card, no access to files and folders on the card. No ring tones.....!
It states in the phone and SD card settings that it is mounted, but again, no info on size, what is more it will not "unmount". SO I revert to my old thread:
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867858

How many threads do you need? By my count, you're at three with this one.
One, two (this thread), and three. Please stick to one thread... The Q&A guys were right, this is the correct place for the thread - but no need for two!!

arrrghhh said:
How many threads do you need? By my count, you're at three with this one.
One, two (this thread), and three. Please stick to one thread... The Q&A guys were right, this is the correct place for the thread - but no need for two!!
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Lol.... I only need two. Actually if you read them. I started with an installed Android but no access to my SD card, but then all changed with a different problem of not booting, so a new Thread, but as that fixed and moved back I reverted, but was told to open a new Thread in TP2. So two are needed, just had to move the latest.

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APP2SD??

hey everyone..
i recently got my hero an have been upgrading roms back an forth, but each time i wipe to update the rom i lose all my apps.. i was wondering if anyone could please help me get app2sd installed or show me a step by step process for it.. itd help heaps an be greatly appreciated!!
thanks in advance,
brett
I need help for this altso, dont realy understand how this works?
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How to install apps from MARKET to SD card, so we dont have to reinstall them each flashing
you need root! and a custom rom (MCR2.2 or 2.3 are my faves) these have apps2sd built in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552591
p.s your thread should be in Q&A NOT the Dev section
problem
hi. i've partitioned my sd card as per the instructions on this website. prior to that, i'd installed the modaco rom version 2.2, which is meant to have apps2sd on it.
i thought that after partitioning my sd card my apps would automaticaaly get transferred to the sd card. but that doesn't seem to have happened. how do i go about making that happened. i don't want to reinstall the modaco rom, it should happen already shouldn't it?
also, where exactly is apps2sd on the modaco rom? i can't find it.
try booting your phone without the SD card in....are your apps still there?
apps2sd is built in to the rom, you dont need to run anything. It does it all by itself in the background.
thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. Before I do, just one other query. I thought that after partitioning the sd card, everything on it would get wiped. But the same folders (ther were only 2 before i partitioned it) are still there with the files in them!
which makes me think, did i successfully partition the card? there's no doubt that when i typed 'print' in the adb shell/ gparted after the partitioning process it gave a list of 3 partitions in the sd card. I basically followed the instructions to the letter. I won't be in a position to check again until tomorrow.
Just to be clear before I do something I may or may not regret, to get apps installed on the sd card, I need to partition it first, correct? Once it has been partitioned correctly, any app installations I do, say via the market, should go straight to the sd card? I'm running MCRv2.2.
Yes partition your card first. (FAT first, then EXT3 second)
they usually go to the SD card after a reboot i think.
AFAIK it is a script that is run during startup.
thanks alot for that.. i done a bit more research an have it all sorted.. cheers.. brett
good news. happy to help
as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?
djdhrubs said:
as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?
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You can't see them in /sdcard because that is your FAT32 partition of the card.
Apps2SD works by mounting an ext3 partition from your card, it is mounted to /system/sd/ normally I think. Have a look there with your filemanager.
The reason for having a separate partition for it is that Android requires the ability to set access rights and ownership to files for it work, and FAT32 does not support this.
if you load a linux live cd (i use ubuntu) and plug in your card reader, or mount your hero, you will see the two partitions (or 3 if you use swap).
Windows can't see ext3 partitions, but linux can, cos its great
yeah i had a look using astro file manager and went into system/sd but nothing is listed there.
anyway, now i have a whole new bizarre problem. most of my apps force close when i try to use them! for example, i open taskiller, and its fine while its running, but as soon as i select something to kill, a message pops up saying it has to force close. same with advanced task manager, shopsavvy, shazam, flixster movies and many others. i've turned my phone off and on, and rebooted a couple of times to no avail. phone calls and internet access still works fine.
all this has started since i tried booting my phone without the sd card. i've taken it out again and tried again, but still same problem. weird!
ok problem above solved! i uninstalled then reinstalled the applications, and then they work.
thanks for all your help guys.
i used to get that on my g1...un-install and re-install always solved it for me too!
happy hero'ing!
I am glad that there is a ROM that support A2SD, but i prefer to run the generic one, and if possible is there a code to make my generic pre-rooted rom A2SD abled?
I answered a similar Question a day or so ago here.... Just general stuff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4655969&postcount=2
Dayz xxxx

[Q] HTC Desire doesn't recognize sd card, please help.

Hi everybody,
I posted a similar post in one of the threads, but I did not get any replies. So I thought I might as well post a new thread.
I really hope that you can help me out.
My HTC Desire doesn't recognize the sd card (Samsung micro SDHC 4gb) that is in it. It also doesn't recognize another sd card (SanDisk micro SD 2gb).
I've tried to follow up the steps 'chippieuk' has listed in this thread.
Everything went fine, until I reached steps 8 and 12, because my pc doesn't recognize the sd card either. (I've tried to put it in two other computers and another phone, but it hasn't been recognized in any of them. I've also tried to use another sd card in the sd card readers and adapter, and that sd card was recognized, but it was a SanDisk micro SD 2gb.)
Here's some background information.
Something like 7 months ago I rooted my HTC Desire (in the process of rooting I partitioned the sd card) and I put custom ROM 'opendesire v1.5' on it. I was satisfied with it, so I never changed it since then. But my HTC Desire stopped working properly something like 6 weeks ago. Every time I switched it on, it went into bootloop. So two weeks ago I did a hard reset via 'hboot' and my phone seemed to work again, but then I discovered that the sd card wasn't being recognized and that has been the problem ever since.
I've, btw., (temporarily) unrooted my phone with a RUU (android 2.1). I've not yet upgraded it to android 2.2, because I want my phone to function well first and I will probably root it again soon (if I will succeed with my sd card etc.)...
So... Have any of you got an idea? Could it be something with the readers that I've used (that they can't read micro sdhc cards)? Or because I once partitioned it? I really don't know...
Once again, I would really appreciate it if you could help me.
Thanks.
Regards
If nothing is picking it up then you have no partition on the SD card, or the wrong one. Format it with Windows to FAT32. If Windows picks it up, then Android should pick it up. If it isn't picking it in Android after the format, go to Settings > Storage and see if it's mounted in there, if not, then mount it, if you can't mount it, then it's either a problem with the rom or a problem with the SD card.
Okay, thanks. I'll try that.
Is it, btw., possible to get the data that's on it back?
Not if you format it. To be honest, the only way you can get data off it anyway is by getting it to mount, which it isn't doing.
Yeah, true... I should have made a backup. ;p
Okay, I just connected my phone with its sd card to my computer.
It actually shows a 'Removable Disk' in 'Computer',
but I cannot access it when I try to format it.
So I'm going to try to format it now, using an adapter.
Let me know how it goes
Hmmm.. When I put the micro sd card in an adapter and insert that into my computer, it sort of reacts to it. The icons at the bottom right sort of move, but that's all. When I look into 'Computer', there are no removable disks. I really don't know how to access it..
Plug it into your PC. Go to start, right click on my computer and click on manage. Click on disk management on the left and see if the SD card loads up
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Okay, so I tried what you said, but the SD card doesn't load up.. I also tried it with that other SD card I talked about, just to check again if it really isn't because of the adapter, but that SD card was recognized.
Put it in your phone and loads up Android. By default, if Android detects a non compatible SD card then it will ask you to format it. If you don't get this option then I guess it's buggered and you'll need to get a new one.
It appears to be a USB brick....
See solution on this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691187
To be more precise, the fix is mentioned in the thread above, but is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6634033&postcount=115
Had a similar problem myself, see if my little thread is of any use to you
As soon as I'll be back home, I'll try your suggestions. Thanks a lot, all of you.

Loosing data on sdcard after factory reset?

Just a question I'm throwing out here...
Some people who have updated to official GB either OTA or manual update and get the random boot loop after the installation. The known way to resolve it is to boot into stock recovery and select factory reset/wipe and then reboot. Only problem is many are reporting that they are loosing data on sdcard after doing the factory reset.. Some have said loss of pictures, etc.. others have said apps lost and even a few claim to have had the sdcard wiped completely.
My problem with this is the sdcard has always been considered a "safe place" that factory wipes either with stock recovery & CWM would not touch. Why is this happening all the sudden? Anyone know?
Paul627g said:
Just a question I'm throwing out here...
Some people who have updated to official GB either OTA or manual update and get the random boot loop after the installation. The known way to resolve it is to boot into stock recovery and select factory reset/wipe and then reboot. Only problem is many are reporting that they are loosing data on sdcard after doing the factory reset.. Some have said loss of pictures, etc.. others have said apps lost and even a few claim to have had the sdcard wiped completely.
My problem with this is the sdcard has always been considered a "safe place" that factory wipes either with stock recovery & CWM would not touch. Why is this happening all the sudden? Anyone know?
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Paul627g: please read the thread in the attached link, as it goes to the heart of the matter of your query regarding data corruption + resultant 'damaged sd card' ..........i believe that this has happened to numerous folks that updated to EI22 in the past week or so (+ even before that, check the thread.)
................ just briefly, from my own experience of having sustained a total loss of my sd card yesterday: my personal theory is that in the repeated action of (1)'mounting Mass Storage from Select USB mode' (2)exchanging files from the sd card to pc / vice versa + (3)'un-mounting Mass Storage from USB device icon' to safely unplug USB cable...the pc is ultimately unable to release the external drive correctly (pc gave me 'error' message AFTER selecting 'safely unplug device from USB' icon EVEN THOUGH pc had just prompted me to safely remove external device from USB.....this immediately sent my epic into a bootloop (with android 'unmount Mass Storage' icon + neverending spinning wheel animation.......................ie, sd card was lost).
....somewhere in the thread it is argued that changing from one system to another, (as in from froyo to gingerbread), that this will cause a basic fault in the ability of the pc to respond to the 'USB connected/mount' prompt that had always operated normally in the past (months or year) of activity w/ same MicroSD Card.........so the question is: was the pc (or SD Card) affected AFTER the upgrade to EI22?
Of course, there is a great deal more being argued about what is causing the data corruption that ultimately damages our microSD Cards ........thanks for posting this very valuable question of great interest/concern to all in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075910
To set your mind at ease a little, I flash and test a lot of ROMs and other than my dropbox folder disappearing, have not lost anything on my sd card. But to be safe, back up your card to the computer every now and then. I believe the mount and dismount theory to be sound and have heard a few people having trouble connecting to a computer after going between firmware versions. It is possible they had outdated drivers and that could also add to possible corruption of the data on the card. Removing the phone from a computer without ejecting will definitely cause problems at some point. A flaky cable like the stock ones will wear, cause the phone to disconnect and corrupt the sd card if during a file transfer. So get a good cable like a Blackberry or Palm Pre one, backup your card once in awhile and always eject your phone from the computer.
Thanks to both.. You may recognize me I'm around a bit here not only for my themes but also to answer questions quite frequently. I'm also an adviser at androidcentral.com's forums for the Epic 4g and the question has been asked over there about this because some users have lost sdcard data after doing a factory reset to get out of the boot loop.
So that is my main reason to asking this question. I too have flashed more ROMs/themes, etc than I care to remember and never had an issue with sdcard data loss.
Thanks again. I hope these are some isolated incidents for those affected.
Paul627g
www.androidcentral.com
Paul627g said:
Thanks to both.. You may recognize me I'm around a bit here not only for my themes but also to answer questions quite frequently. I'm also an adviser at androidcentral.com's forums for the Epic 4g and the question has been asked over there about this because some users have lost sdcard data after doing a factory reset to get out of the boot loop.
So that is my main reason to asking this question. I too have flashed more ROMs/themes, etc than I care to remember and never had an issue with sdcard data loss.
Thanks again. I hope these are some isolated incidents for those affected.
Paul627g
www.androidcentral.com
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Hopefully. It may actually be whatever caused the boot loop that caused the loss of data. The sd card may have been failing and caused a bad flash and that was the final nail in it's coffin.
how to recover files from a 'damaged micro sd card'
kennyglass123 said:
Hopefully. It may actually be whatever caused the boot loop that caused the loss of data. The sd card may have been failing and caused a bad flash and that was the final nail in it's coffin.
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...getting back to the forum after a super busy day, am glad to see kennyglass123 + paul627g on top of things --as is their gracious manner-- + as i sense this to be an important enough issue 4 no one really knows the specific cause, it's variable + always somewhat circumstantial (ie, johncorleone mentioned elsewhere that heat from an overclocked cpu could cause damage as well)...................so, moving forward I simply want to contribute as a brief description, here, how i was able to recover (most) of the files from my 'damaged micro sd card:'
First, when i saw 'damaged sd card / format card' on the phone, when it became possible 4 me to do so, instead of 'formatting' I replaced the damaged card for a new one (pny 16gb sdhc class 10)...booted the phone everything was fine (15.91gb space available)........next:
(1) placed 'damaged' sd card into the reader that came w/ the device, and mounted to pc, selected the drive (followed by confirmation beep 'device detected' sound, then the language: 'd:\ not accessible. The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable' came on the screen..........went to RUN and typed CMD........from new window, I typed Chkdsk d: /r and the PC began reading the contents of the damaged SD card (most of the android zip files etcetera were there, as were a number of files w/ no content) + next i typed 'exit' (no quotations, just the letters) to return to the windows desktop.......OK, so now the only files missing are the pix + video mov's (far as I can remember).
..........(2) next, to recover pix + video, from the pc desktop i opened ZARecovery (if you do not already have it go to www.z-a-recovery.com and download the free recovery program from that site).
.............(3) from the ZARrecovery main page, selected sd card as device, selected 'next', selected 'root' folder for all files that ZAR was able to detect as recoverable, entered destination folder name (for transfer of recovered pix + video to PC....note: NEVER to sd card itself!), + lastly, selected 'start copying selected files'.........and that was it, closed ZAR + began viewing the content of the recovery folder to get an assessment of what had actually been recovered, and what had been lost.................fortunately 4 me, the loss was minimal, as I tend to create backups (Nandroids, every half year; pic, videos, email attachments = pretty regularly!)
Hope this helps those of you that have been experiencing microSD Card damage (from whatever source).
Nice tutorial sonarchist! You should post that in a thread and ask mods to sticky it! It would help quite a few people out there.
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Nice tutorial sonarchist! You should post that in a thread and ask mods to sticky it! It would help quite a few people out there.
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....kennyglass123: have read a few posts regarding this issue sporadically on this forum.................took your advice + posted it as a thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355528
(q: this get me closer to the realm of 'backup evangelist'?)
sonarchist said:
....kennyglass123: have read a few posts regarding this issue sporadically on this forum.................took your advice + posted it as a thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1355528
(q: this get me closer to the realm of 'backup evangelist'?)
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For sure! LOL.
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kennyglass123 said:
Nice tutorial sonarchist! You should post that in a thread and ask mods to sticky it! It would help quite a few people out there.
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Lol I saw his thread before I saw this and I was like STICKY THIS lol.
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I just restarted my phone and all data on micro SD card was gone
I installed Android Revolution HD™ 3.6.7 XE | 4.1.7 Sense 3.5 on my HTC sensation 4g yesterday.
I was sorting through my contacts and did a backup to my micro SD card then deleted all from phone, google and sim. Then I reinstalled the Vcard copy of my contacts from my micro SD, (16gb Lexar), card all good up until this point.
After that I restarted my phone and all my data on my SD card was gone!
I had a backup of Titanium Backup on Dropbox but none of my photos were there.
Is my backup of my original rom going to be on Titanium Backup, or was the only copy going to be on my SD card?
Thanks
I formatted my card a couple of time and there haven't been any more problems.

Problems with the SD card

Hi everybody. Not sure where to post this question, so please move if this is not the most suitable place.
Yesterday I bought a new 32GB microSDHC card casas 10. I then proceeded to partition it, creating one FAT32 partition and one EXT2 partition using the Minitool Partition Wizard on Windows XP. I then copied a few flashable zips with ROMs on them to try out.
This morning, as I set out to flash a new ROM, I noticed on the instructions that I needed a third SWAP partition. So I went back to the drawing board and created one. So far so good.
Except that then a few strange things happened:
* Partition wizard, after giving me the thumbs up, did not recognize the 2 partitions it had supposedly created (I restarted the program, unplugged and re-plugged the card, etc.). So I "un-partitioned" (sic) and re-partitioned. I hope this didn't screw anything up. Only later did I read that this was normal because XP does not recognize EXT2 or SWAP, which is why the wizard was showing it all as an "unallocated" lump.
* Although windows saw the files on the SD card, it did not allow me to transfer new any new ones. The system told me the device was not ready and asked me whether I wanted to format. After trying a few times, I ended up accepting, but the formatting process failed. ...or maybe it was at first and then no more, can't remember. Thing is, there are no more files on the card (which is fine, no need to recover them)
These things didn't happen in this particular order, rather, it was a going back and forth with both issues, including a request from partition manager to re-start, only to get a message saying partitioning was not possible because the file system had changed (???). It did go through upon retrying though (no re-start required)
Now:
1. partition wizard sees the sd card, but windows explorer doesn't.
2. partition wizard sees it as fully used up (no free memory left), even though there is nothing on it
3. partition wizard found the whole card to have errors in every sector but won't give me options to correct them.
4. windows is still unable to either format or explore the sd card
Wiping did not help. Formatting and resizing are not an option. I could delete the partition, but at this point I'm afraid of what that would do. No need to recover anything, but I would hate to have to go out again and get a new card.
Can you please help me?
Thanks!
ok, spent some more time scouring the web, and something occured to me... could it be that by doing a DoD wipe with Minitool partition wizard I re-wrote the partition (which is why it is full) and also protected it (which is can't re-format)?
of course, that doesn't answer the question of why windows XP (and windows 7 on my other machine) won't recognize the card....
PS. apologies for the double post , but seeing as there were 36 views and no replies, i thought I'd let people see that there was additional information here... hope that's alright
Your problem could be windows since when it sees a USB or HDD with ext2 it thinks its corrupted and asks to format and fails...
from what i know ext2 is used for linux so i would try your program on a linux distro. i could be wrong though
it might not help using windows xp
good luck
After reading both of your posts I have no idea what type of device you have. That is the first step, check out your devices General or Q&A forums.
Look at the top of the browser window, see where it says Find Your Device... type in the first few letters of the name and see if it doesn't come up there. The first and best source of information like you are asking for is in there, or if you can't find it by searching, it is the best place to ask.
Also, since you are new to XDA, I would suggest giving this guide a read as it may answer some of your questions and help you find out where to look for the answers.
[GUIDE] How to be a New User (and not a noob)
Thx. The device is an htc wildfire s, but I don't see how that is relevant.
What I have is a microsdhc card that has no data on it yet is full.
Although the card has been used, it suddenly requires formatting. However, neither win xp, nor win 7, nor partition wizaed, nor my camera nor Recovery on my phone are able to successfully format.
Now when I plug it into either PC (win xp and windows 7) the system no longer recognizes it when I go into My PC, whereas partition wizard (running on both those systems) can.
And now I wonder whether the DoD wipe of the partition could be to blame...
Isn't it fair to sy that the issue s device-neutral?
I think your problem may be Windows, because when it sees a USB or hard drive with ext2 that damage to the required format and failure Check your equipment in general
shuiguo said:
I think your problem may be Windows, because when it sees a USB or hard drive with ext2 that damage to the required format and failure Check your equipment in general
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thanks for this. In the end, I gave up and bought a new card, formatted it properly from the start, and am a happy camper
...except of course for the fact that the total for the 2 sd cards adds up to half the cost fo my phone...
maximum sd card??
^^ wat do u mean maxium sd card??

[Q] SD Card Issues?

Hello everyone,
I just recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. So far I really like it but I am having a problem. I have a 32 gig sd card plugged in and yesterday I tried putting some files on. Nothing fancy just music, a video, a couple kindle books, and some word documents. I had plugged the sd card into my computer dropped them on and put it back into my device. Well the device wouldn't find or acknowledge any of the files at all. It acted like they just didn't exist. So I plugged the sd card back into my computer and they were there. After a bit of rebooting my device I finally got it to acknowledge the stuff I put on. That lasted until I let the device go to sleep. This morning when I opened up my device everything was gone again. So I plugged it back into my computer and it was all actually deleted.
After that I tried putt stuff on it with the device tethered to my computer and the same thing happened. It wouldn't acknowledge anything kept on my sd card. Including kindle books.
I did some reading and just kept coming up with the kitkat and app compatibility issue that doesn't allow apps to save to sd but this doesn't seem like that. All of those posts seemed to be dated a few months ago so has that been fixed at all or is it still a problem and the only "fix" is rooting it? Is it related to the problem I seem to be having? If not what on earth is worng with it and how do I fix it?
I won't lie I am kind of a newb when it comes to anything beyond basic electronic issues so I really am at a loss for what is wrong with it.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Psylk87
P.s. Should I consider returning this tablet? The stuff I read about the kitkat seems like a huge problem when it has such a small amount of on board space. I have just basic stuff on it and still only have 6 gig on board left over. That means basically all storage will be on an sd card. I bought it to use for college so want to be able to take notes and reliably save stuff. Am I better off with a different tablet? If so what Android tablets would be best?
Psylk87 said:
Hello everyone,
I just recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. So far I really like it but I am having a problem. I have a 32 gig sd card plugged in and yesterday I tried putting some files on. Nothing fancy just music, a video, a couple kindle books, and some word documents. I had plugged the sd card into my computer dropped them on and put it back into my device. Well the device wouldn't find or acknowledge any of the files at all. It acted like they just didn't exist. So I plugged the sd card back into my computer and they were there. After a bit of rebooting my device I finally got it to acknowledge the stuff I put on. That lasted until I let the device go to sleep. This morning when I opened up my device everything was gone again. So I plugged it back into my computer and it was all actually deleted.
After that I tried putt stuff on it with the device tethered to my computer and the same thing happened. It wouldn't acknowledge anything kept on my sd card. Including kindle books.
I did some reading and just kept coming up with the kitkat and app compatibility issue that doesn't allow apps to save to sd but this doesn't seem like that. All of those posts seemed to be dated a few months ago so has that been fixed at all or is it still a problem and the only "fix" is rooting it? Is it related to the problem I seem to be having? If not what on earth is worng with it and how do I fix it?
I won't lie I am kind of a newb when it comes to anything beyond basic electronic issues so I really am at a loss for what is wrong with it.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Psylk87
P.s. Should I consider returning this tablet? The stuff I read about the kitkat seems like a huge problem when it has such a small amount of on board space. I have just basic stuff on it and still only have 6 gig on board left over. That means basically all storage will be on an sd card. I bought it to use for college so want to be able to take notes and reliably save stuff. Am I better off with a different tablet? If so what Android tablets would be best?
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Any rooted tab is better.. Rooting it will allow you to fix your SD permission woes. More than likely the app you are using can't get access to the SD card thus why it shows up blank. Root the tab, and run the kitkat SD card fix app and never look back. This tab is great!
dottat said:
Any rooted tab is better.. Rooting it will allow you to fix your SD permission woes. More than likely the app you are using can't get access to the SD card thus why it shows up blank. Root the tab, and run the kitkat SD card fix app and never look back. This tab is great!
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So basically it will always have the sd card issues thanks to kitkat? I tried opening the music and the video with the devices main video and music apps. But they also weren't showing at all when I went to look for them in the actual "My Files" section. Then when they totally deleted I got even more confused. It was 5 gigs of stuff just randomly deleted off the flash drive.
Is rooting hard? As mentioned I am a newb. I have never done anything like that and I have never used or worked with a rooted device. Won't it void the warranty and make it so I cant return it? It was fairly expensive so I am worried about ruining it haha.
I actually love the tablet so far so really disappointed with the issue. I have until the 14th of August to return it so I need to decide quickly.
Psylk87 said:
So basically it will always have the sd card issues thanks to kitkat? I tried opening the music and the video with the devices main video and music apps. But they also weren't showing at all when I went to look for them in the actual "My Files" section. Then when they totally deleted I got even more confused. It was 5 gigs of stuff just randomly deleted off the flash drive.
Is rooting hard? As mentioned I am a newb. I have never done anything like that and I have never used or worked with a rooted device. Won't it void the warranty and make it so I cant return it? It was fairly expensive so I am worried about ruining it haha.
I actually love the tablet so far so really disappointed with the issue. I have until the 14th of August to return it so I need to decide quickly.
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Some people on this forum have reported that towelroot works on Tab Pro 8.4. It should be as easy as installing an apk and tapping a button. I already have CM11 installed so I didn't try it though..
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dottat said:
Any rooted tab is better.. Rooting it will allow you to fix your SD permission woes. More than likely the app you are using can't get access to the SD card thus why it shows up blank. Root the tab, and run the kitkat SD card fix app and never look back. This tab is great!
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Hi
I'm not new in flashing ROMs but I think somewhere I go wrong...
I had the Australian stock ROM and I thought to try a little bit de-bloated ROM to check if its better...
As I'm ALWAYS doing I did make a recovery full backup of my tablet and copied the TWRP Backup in my Ext. SDCard with the intention to move it in my PC for security. Reading how to flash the new ROMs, couple of times have been mentioned that I have to wipe EVERYTHING before I flash them... Against my better judgment I wiped my SDCard too and of course I wiped the new ROM too...
Oh well I thought I will restore my Backup and try again
1) TWRP did NOT read the backup from Ext. SDCard.
2) I d/l an Aussie ROM from SAMIFILES to start again and copy the TWRP Backup in SDCard in case something wrong etc...
Then All Hell Break loose
After Flashing the Full factory ROM I had in my tablet few only apps without ANY Google apps and I couldn't access my Ext SDCard...
When I took out the card to copy it in my PC and from there to tablet the card was corrupted loosing my original Backup...
After that I don't know how many times I've tried factory or XDA ROMs with all the time not able to access my Ext. SDCard (New one, works fine elsewhere) despite I tried ALL the SDFix apps in Playstore... I tried to change the properties of the card manually too but the same...
PLEASE can help me to Fix my Ext SDCard as the tablet is almost useless without it?...
have you tried copying the files to your main memory, then transfer those files from main memory to your memory card using the built in File Manager ?
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Any rooted tab is better.. Rooting it will allow you to fix your SD permission woes. More than likely the app you are using can't get access to the SD card thus why it shows up blank. Root the tab, and run the kitkat SD card fix app and never look back.
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There is a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding about the SD card permission changes brought by KitKat, and I do not believe the OP's issues are caused by those changes. We are unfortunately to the point where if someone has any trouble at all with an SD, they blame the KitKat permission changes; which is simply false in many cases. The KitKat SD changes have to do solely with write permission access and do not affect the ability to read the SD. The following article explains it well:
http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes
And the KitKat changes certainly would not cause the card to be read after a reboot, then randomly not readable later, as the OP described. All this is pointing toward an issue other than how KitKat handles SDs.
I would suggest re-formatting the SD to FAT32 (on that subject, what is it presently formatted to?) and seeing if that helps. I saw a very similar thread on the HTC One (M8) forum where the person was having trouble with the phone reading content on the SD (worked fine on other devices), was blaming the KitKat rule changes, and simply formatting the card fixed it right up. Also, try a different SD card, if you have access to one.
If that doesn't work, its possible where is some software or (hopefully not) hardware issue such as a broken SD tray. But let's try to format the card and see if that does the trick.
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There is a lot of misinformation and misunderstanding about the SD card permission changes brought by KitKat, and I do not believe the OP's issues are caused by those changes. We are unfortunately to the point where if someone has any trouble at all with an SD, they blame the KitKat permission changes; which is simply false in many cases. The KitKat SD changes have to do solely with write permission access and do not affect the ability to read the SD. The following article explains it well:
http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes
And the KitKat changes certainly would not cause the card to be read after a reboot, then randomly not readable later, as the OP described. All this is pointing toward an issue other than how KitKat handles SDs.
I would suggest re-formatting the SD to FAT32 (on that subject, what is it presently formatted to?) and seeing if that helps. I saw a very similar thread on the HTC One (M8) forum where the person was having trouble with the phone reading content on the SD (worked fine on other devices), was blaming the KitKat rule changes, and simply formatting the card fixed it right up. Also, try a different SD card, if you have access to one.
If that doesn't work, its possible where is some software or (hopefully not) hardware issue such as a broken SD tray. But let's try to format the card and see if that does the trick.
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Sorry if I didn't make myself clear... I CAN see the Ext.SD but I can NOT write... The card (2nd) it's empty and I can write in it files in my PC's Card reader which I can see in my tablet... I CAN NOT write a file or make a folder or anything when the card it is inside the tablet...
That's why I said the tablet it is almost useless as I can use only the native 16GB minus...
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Problem SOLVED for whoever need to know how go here: http://winaero.com/blog/unlock-external-sd-card-writing-for-all-apps-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
Thank you guys for the help so far. Sorry I am a bit slow but my laptop died on me and I have been dealing with that.
I am glad to hear its more than likely just an sd card problem not the kitkat problem. I really don't want to root it. I actually adore this device and don't want to had to return it.
I have played with it more and I am getting stuff like pictures and videos taken on the device to save to sd so it is reading the sd card. It just wont read what is placed on it externally. Is is maybe that I have to tether and cant pull the sd card out?
I did reformat the sd card with the device. So it is formatted to the device. But it still wont acknowledge stuff I drop on it only stuff that is saved on it from the device itself. But I do know its working because its showing pictures I have taken with the device on the sd card in the built in file manager. So whatever it is it's not the card reader slot.
I am going to try xdm9mm's suggestion and see if that will work. If not what else should I try?
Before I can test another sd card I need to buy one (I looked and only had the one extra lying around). So what card do you guys use on it with success?
You're taking the card out and using a card reader? I think I know your problem, the same thing happened to me when swapping cards with my phone. You have to go into the system settings, and under general, select storage. From there you can unmount the microSD card before taking it out. If you don't do that, it won't read the card properly when you put it back in.
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You're taking the card out and using a card reader? I think I know your problem, the same thing happened to me when swapping cards with my phone. You have to go into the system settings, and under general, select storage. From there you can unmount the microSD card before taking it out. If you don't do that, it won't read the card properly when you put it back in.
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Every time I have taken it out I have used the unmount section. Originally I unmounted it put it in the adapter and plugged it into my computer. Then I dragged and dropped everything I wanted on it to it. Once I had done that I used "safely remove" on the computer and then plugged it back into the card reader on my tablet. That is when it wouldn't read anything at all. I reset it several times and finally got it to read for a minute but then when the tablet went to sleep it self deleted everything on the card. I am thinking the self deleting may be fluke because I have been able to save pictures taken by the device on it with no trouble. It just won't read anything I put on myself.
The whole thing is a bit confusing lol. I even took it to a computer shop in town but the guy had no clue what I was trying to explain. I am going to try another sd card and try tethering the device to the computer to drop in some new files. Hopefully that will help.
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Every time I have taken it out I have used the unmount section. Originally I unmounted it put it in the adapter and plugged it into my computer. Then I dragged and dropped everything I wanted on it to it. Once I had done that I used "safely remove" on the computer and then plugged it back into the card reader on my tablet. That is when it wouldn't read anything at all. I reset it several times and finally got it to read for a minute but then when the tablet went to sleep it self deleted everything on the card. I am thinking the self deleting may be fluke because I have been able to save pictures taken by the device on it with no trouble. It just won't read anything I put on myself.
The whole thing is a bit confusing lol. I even took it to a computer shop in town but the guy had no clue what I was trying to explain. I am going to try another sd card and try tethering the device to the computer to drop in some new files. Hopefully that will help.
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Hrm. Another possibility, have you tried filling up the card, say with video files, then checking from the PC to see if they all play? Most of the really cheap memory cards are fake (including on Amazon), they only have a tiny capacity, and the controller is set up to loop, so it will write the data without giving any errors, and the files will be indexed, but the data isn't actually saved anywhere.

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