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Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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i disagree with point #5
i think the evo looks ok minus the circle buttons, the desire is freakin sexy
its NOT ...
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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0. Who cares about 4G, more importantly, WHO HAVE 4G right now?
1. Display is TFT (NOT better than AMOLED!). more than 4.0 inches, too large, you might as well carry a laptop instead of this.
2. Who cares about cameras in phones? get SE Satio 12 MP with xenon flash if you care about Cameras in phones
3. camera again? who cares? and the HD recording is rumoured for the Desire too.
4. ok, maybe thats a point for Evo
5. I disagree, this point is personal taste anyways, not better or worst
I don't think this will work on GSM phone, no, it won't work.
And I won't pick any phone without AMOLED screen at least (Samsung SUPER AMOLED is better though).
More megapixel camera is useless with that tiny sensor, believe me on this. It is better to have less megapixel under the same sensor size.
Samsung Galaxy S with its 4" SUPER AMOLED is quite ideal for me, but I don't like the software, the hardware (too rounded) and ... Samsung
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
gogol said:
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
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Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
well~~~I won't choose EVO too many problem for now
It will be at least two kind of 4G chip and count less 4G ISP
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
Wow, I was all set to preorder my desire today - then this pops up!
Anyone know if we're likely to see a UK release? I'm just about to email HTC to ask.
Not necessarily end of the year to be honest ... It could be the same day with iPhone 4G
That would be awesome day!
AaronJoYee said:
Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
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Well, I got a (pretty unhelpful) reply from HTC about a UK release of the Supersonic.
Dear Paul
Thank you for contacting us.
At the moment we won't comment on future products releases before an official statement but we suggest to follow us on our social networks (Facebook, Twitter) or consult periodically our website for the latest news on our products.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Best regards,
Pedro S.
HTC
wow
This is the device I want. I am torn now between the Desire and Evo. Worst thing that could happen is I order the desire and next month the evo gets a UK release......
You won't be seeing a european release of this for quite a while
Sprint getting it summer 2010 - and it's a CDMA device.. So no GSM for us..
HTC Desire also seems to be more of the focus for europe - Evo is more focusing on new network technology. Hense 4G .
I'd go for the HTC Desire - even if this does come to europe - it'll be 9-12 months before it does.
HDMI out? I struggle to see the point
To anyone outside the US Complaining:
THE EVO IS COMPLETLY USELESS FOR YOU!
WiMax will not be deployed in (most) European Countrys
The evo does not support GSM, CDMA is used nowhere in Europe or the rest of the world execpt US!
I would like to have Desire a lot actually. I see all the benefits but actually the only thing that i have doubts now, is the fact that it took them 4g phone to introduce front facing camera on the android.
yeah, i understand why you might think why would i need front facing camera, but i would like the possibility to use for skype, fring, free video call.
720p - well, its not real concern, because its more of a an extra feature than necessity.
8mp camera with 2 lights --- also if you take photos with your phone it still wont be the quality of dsrl camera.
i think the screen is too big for everyday use, of course there are benefits of using extra screen size, but then again you use a netbook for that, then normal laptop... then tv and finally imax experiance
4g is also a nice feature but its still has a bit to go, about 2 years before its full implemented, so by that time new-better phones will be out.
the rest is been said already.
To be honest I think the Evo looks a bit fat compared to the HD2 which I currently own. I have a Desire on Preorder and having owned a 4.3" device I'm happy to scale down my screen size for screen quality. Think of it like a tv - would you swap your Samsung 42" LED tv for a 46" LCD of similar general spec? I know I wouldn't. Browsing will be splendid on the Desire.
Supposedly 720p DivX and video recording will be on the Desire at launch or thereafter. Not so bothered about the video recording side but im sure if the Evo can play Divx up to 720p someone will find how to enable it on other snapdragon based Android devices in no time.
HDMI out is of no interest to me whatsoever and will no doubt necessitate a 30 dollar cable.
Better camera? HTC cameras are all crap anyway; i'd happily keep a 5mp christmas cracker lens and have the option of a decent loudspeaker like Nokia and iPhone 3g owners get.
shaneaus said:
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Coming from a fellow Texan...I couldn't agree with you more! They completely FAILED big time with the Backflip and Dell Aero (or whatever that P.O.S. is called).
2 more days of CTIA and I am keeping my fingers crossed that something is mentioned about the Desire & AT&T
shaneaus said:
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Totally agree here, tech is never gonna stop. We can't get us up2date stuff,
by the time we get what we DESIRE most, there will be another mouth-watering thing in news...
So best option as my friend says above is LEARN TO ENJOY WHAT U HAVE GOT NOW...plus (my suggestion)... start saving 4 next
wish list.
I think the EVO is ugly.
There is no point in more than 1 megapixel camera for most people. The latest phones have less than 1million pixel screens and even average computer screens only just exceed a million pixels. How many of your phone photos have you printed? Also phones are still using CMOS sensors and the point above about a lower resolution being better is correct. It means less red and blue sensor noise in the images when displayed on a larger screen such as on your PC. This is caused by the sensor over amplifying due to the tiny amount of light coming in through the tiny aperture.
There is no GSM support so no sim card. When you have finished with the phone it is a door stop!
There is one area with experimental 4g in the UK (Just outside Slough) and they switch it off when they are not testing it. We will NOT see 4g until some bandwidth becomes available, this will happen when the terrestrial TV signal swiches off freeing up 800MHz. This wont happen until around your next upgrade anyway (2012) and by then there will be even better 4g devices to choose from.
Also in the video of the EVO the cammera is demonstrated, frankly, it sucks, there is a light sorce in the back ground (Probably a window) and it whites out completely, so much show I am not 100% sure that the light sorce is a window as you cant see a thing, this happenes on both the still shot and the video. The desire most definately does support 800x480 video which, believe it or not, constitutes HD (anything with more than 425 lines is defined as HD)
Capasitive buttons are not good IMHO.
4+ inch screen are just too big, I have played with the HD2 and is is just too big in your pocket!
And seriously, think about it, when are you going to use an HDMI output, I have a PC and Blu-Ray at home and I cant see too many esablishment letting me plug my phone into their HDTV, I can't even imagine my friends would be over the moon about me turning up with my new phone and insisting on connecting it to the back of their telly either, it seems pointless, something you would try out, think it was cool and then never use ever again.
Dont loose any sleep over this phone, 4g is it's only +point and we have no network for some time to come!
With regard to the 8 MP camera: I wonder all the time whether the Desire will have the same camera chip as the HD2? In the tweaks threads on the HD2 it is said that the HD2 camera by means of just the software has been limited to 5 MP, but that it is an 8 MP chip. In order to achieve cost reduction by great numbers, HTC might build the same camera chip into all models - HD2, Desire, N1, Evo - and only the Evo is heralded to have an 8 MP camera?
The similar question applies to the WiFi functionality, where the HD2 also has 802.11n (not b/g only).
In the end, the difference between Desire and Evo appears to be limited to the (currently use- and senseless, to my opinion) 4G capability plus the HDMI out plus the HD2-like size of the Evo. Not reason to feel sorry for the Desire, really.
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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1. That is one of the reasons I am leaving the HD2: 4.3 inch is to big. After a few months of using I found out that 4.3 inch is nice, but it is not necessary. I rather have a 3.7 - 4.0 inch screen that I can much better use with one hand, while still having almost the same experience I have with my 4.3 inch screen.
2. Yes, indeed that is true. Not a huge problem though, the 5 mp camera's on the Desire/HD2/Nexus One make good pictures and decent video's for my needs.
3. I really do not care about that, at all! And it was rumored that it would come to the Desire as well.
4. Again, I do not care about that.
5. I don't know about that. It looks kind of big, and it is not as 'curved' as the Desire. IMO they both look just as nice, but they both have different styles.
I myself thought for a second if the EVO 4G was not a better choice, but quickly knew the answer to that. For me, the Desire is still on top. I think the 3.7 inch (AMOLED btw, much nicer) will suite me better. And the EVO does not really offer anything else that I really need.
And I live in Europe. So that means case closed, as the EVO 4G is meant for Sprint in the US.
So, I was checking out the Samsung Galaxy S2 at my local T-Mobile store, and was comparing / contrasting it very closely with the HTC Amaze "Ruby" 4G. Some of the things I noticed were:
* An odd blu-ish hue coming from the display (anyone notice this?)
* Low resolution screen compared to Amaze 4G (I could see pixelization on the SGS2)
* The AMOLED Plus display is much darker than the qHD on the Amaze 4G
* HTC's SenseUI is much smoother than Samsung TouchWiz
* The Amaze 4G has a 1280x720 front-facing camera, compared to 640x480 on SGS2
* Lack of shutter button (or video recording button) on Galaxy S2
* No wifi calling on SGS2
I'd been pretty much sold on the Samsung Galaxy S2 until I actually saw it in person today. Anyone else bothered by these things?
Definitely the wifi calling.
Add to the list that I'm seeing no tethering without updating your contract.
I've heard pros/cons about the screen resolution vs size and industry standards.
shutter button nice but not a deal breaker.
I wonder which one is going to be easier to root and rom? I dont particularly like either sense or touchwiz.
pcgeek86 said:
So, I was checking out the Samsung Galaxy S2 at my local T-Mobile store, and was comparing / contrasting it very closely with the HTC Amaze "Ruby" 4G. Some of the things I noticed were:
* An odd blu-ish hue coming from the display (anyone notice this?)
* Low resolution screen compared to Amaze 4G (I could see pixelization on the SGS2)
* The AMOLED Plus display is much darker than the qHD on the Amaze 4G
* HTC's SenseUI is much smoother than Samsung TouchWiz
* The Amaze 4G has a 1280x720 front-facing camera, compared to 640x480 on SGS2
* Lack of shutter button (or video recording button) on Galaxy S2
* No wifi calling on SGS2
I'd been pretty much sold on the Samsung Galaxy S2 until I actually saw it in person today. Anyone else bothered by these things?
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Hmmmm I was in the store for a little over an hour comparing the two and I ended up getting the SGS2.
* I didn't notice the odd blue hue coming from the display and didn't think the screen was that much darker than the Amaze. Did you try adjusting the brightness?
*I thought both UIs were pretty snappy and didn't notice any lag switching between homescreens and adding widgets on either device.
*i won't argue about the actual numbers for the front-facing camera but I didn't notice a difference between the pics I took with each camera.
* Neither device launches with wifi calling. It's supposed to be included in an ota update from t-mobile. they make you get a new special sim card and everything to make sure that it will work once they do roll it out.
*I did notice some slight pixellation on the device on some sites but it didn't bother me enough not to get the phone.
It was a really hard choice for me. The deciding factors for me was that I preferred the vibrant screen on the SGS2 and I preferred Touchwiz. I think Sense is more elegant and better-looking but in the past I've found it a little obtrusive and seems to use up more of the phone's resources than Touchwiz.
I think they're both two amazing phones. It all comes down to personal preference.
mickeysirena said:
Hmmmm I was in the store for a little over an hour comparing the two and I ended up getting the SGS2.
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Did you try tethering or hotspot?
I definitely noticed the blue-hue on the Samsung. The screen's color temperature is too cold. I noticed this in Samsung's Amoled displays.
The screen does appear a little blury, especially compared to the Amaze 4G
Both of those factors made my eyes hurt after playing with the S II for about 30min. I walked away really disappointed, because I really wanted to like the S II.
Regarding the screen brightness... For some reason unbeknownst to rationality... There are multiple brightness controls buried in multiple menus. when turned all the way up...this thing is blinding.
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Tethering doesn't work.
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NCguy said:
Definitely the wifi calling.
Add to the list that I'm seeing no tethering without updating your contract.
I've heard pros/cons about the screen resolution vs size and industry standards.
shutter button nice but not a deal breaker.
I wonder which one is going to be easier to root and rom? I dont particularly like either sense or touchwiz.
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The Galaxy S2 is going to be easier to root and has there been anywore on a lock bootloader on the Amaze?
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pcgeek86 said:
So, I was checking out the Samsung Galaxy S2 at my local T-Mobile store, and was comparing / contrasting it very closely with the HTC Amaze "Ruby" 4G. Some of the things I noticed were:
* An odd blu-ish hue coming from the display (anyone notice this?)
* Low resolution screen compared to Amaze 4G (I could see pixelization on the SGS2)
* The AMOLED Plus display is much darker than the qHD on the Amaze 4G
* HTC's SenseUI is much smoother than Samsung TouchWiz
* The Amaze 4G has a 1280x720 front-facing camera, compared to 640x480 on SGS2
* Lack of shutter button (or video recording button) on Galaxy S2
* No wifi calling on SGS2
I'd been pretty much sold on the Samsung Galaxy S2 until I actually saw it in person today. Anyone else bothered by these things?
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3 things 1) The front facing camera on the Galaxy S2 takes picks in 1600x1200. 2) There is no way I can understand how you see Sense on the Amaze being smoother then Touchwiz. 3) with the screen being darker did you make sure to adjust the backlight on the Galaxy S2 cause at full brightness you could mistaken the damn thing for a light house outside. Lol
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Darkmx2000 said:
3 things 1) The front facing camera on the Galaxy S2 takes picks in 1600x1200. 2) There is no way I can understand how you see Sense on the Amaze being smoother then Touchwiz. 3) with the screen being darker did you make sure to adjust the backlight on the Galaxy S2 cause at full brightness you could mistaken the damn thing for a light house outside. Lol
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I think he was trying to troll about the ffc and ffc doesn't need to be better than vga its only used for video calling. We all know no matter how it is htc cant program sense properly if their life depended on it.The S3 Qualcomm processor flies on this phone compared to the sensation and amaze 4g. There will be a color editor app there is one on the samsung galaxy 2 carriers decided to set it to cool like a tv i have no reason why.
Well said.
I was the first to get the SGSII in my state (HI) this morning and before leaving the store spent a long while on the Amaze and SGSII.
I'm done with HTC. Touchwiz to me in my opinion is junk...It lags so much on simple tasks from when I had my MT4GS. Just the feel and experience of HTC annoys me now.
The Amaze having a better camera is a marketing gimmick. I took pictures with both, emailed it to myself and compared them in close detail. Being a photographer for over a decade I know that the SGSII has a kick @$$ camera.
The processor on the SGSII is noticeably more quicker than the Amaze.
Screen wise....no comparison. Obviously he didn't adjust the settings...
Killbynature said:
I think he was trying to troll about the ffc and ffc doesn't need to be better than vga its only used for video calling. We all know no matter how it is htc cant program sense properly if their life depended on it.The S3 Qualcomm processor flies on this phone compared to the sensation and amaze 4g. There will be a color editor app there is one on the samsung galaxy 2 carriers decided to set it to cool like a tv i have no reason why.
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coming from sensation which is the Amaze basically without the better camera and the extra Ram, i sat there for 30 minutes comparing my phone to the SGS2 and i can tell you i used to be hard core hater of samsung devices and i left the store and put my Sensation on e-bay. The brighter screen and bigger screen won me over and i had a custom rom and all the goodies on my sensation and oh yeah if anyone says this phone isnt smooth and fast as hell then they really need to play with a stock sense phone for a while .although the Amaze was really snappy for a sense device it still dont hold a candle to the SGS2.
I'm a big fan of vanilla Android so I hate sense and touchwiz. But after using touchwiz for a day or so, I have to admit its much better than sense.
I love my phone. Barring any physical issues, I won't understand how anyone wouldn't like it.
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I loved the phone as well until I noticed the stretched streaky screen and noticeable lower resolution when playing dark scenes on Netflix and 720p videos off sd with brightness turned down
An example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18372752#post18372752
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imnothimm said:
I loved the phone as well until I noticed the stretched streaky screen
An example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18372752#post18372752
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You like to troll don't you?
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Sharing my experience with the SGS2 and warning people about obvious screen problems is trolling?
I'm sorry? I'm just trying to help people who actually want to know if there are any issues with the phone they're debating on buying.
For me it wasn't even a question of which phone to get. I bought the SGS2(566.29$} at 09:11 and played with it until about 7pm. The low resolution on a stretched screen is what did it for me.
Sad, because the SGS2handles video through the hdmi MHL adapter much more smoothly
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imnothimm said:
Sharing my experience with the SGS2 and warning people about obvious screen problems is trolling?
I'm sorry? I'm just trying to help people who actually want to know if there are any issues with the phone they're debating on buying.
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From your posts since phone came out, looks like you didn't like it so you bash it every chance you get. Referring the lines on the screen in like 3 different posts, on the amaze forum also.
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jburnette87 said:
From your posts since phone came out, looks like you didn't like it so you bash it every chance you get. Referring the lines on the screen in like 3 different posts, on the amaze forum also.
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I had the phone for 10 hours before I started posting anything bad about it.
So, clearly it wasn't since minute one of the phone coming out.
Yes, I'm clearly warning people about what was for me a definite deal breaker. I've also recommended people buy the SGS2, because they have 14 days to return it and exchange for a different phone with no 50$ restocking fee if they don't like it.
Many people are debating which one to buy and are asking about the experiences we've had. I'm telling people about my experience so they can make an informed decision and not regret it whichever phone they go with.
The sh!ttiest thing is that i'm pretty sure the SGS2 is going to have a better DEV community.
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I had the phone for 10 hours before I started posting anything bad about it.
So, clearly it wasn't since minute one of the phone coming out.
Yes, I'm clearly warning people about what was for me a definite deal breaker. I've also recommended people buy the SGS2, because they have 14 days to return it and exchange for a different phone with no 50$ restocking fee if they don't like it.
Many people are debating which one to buy and are asking about the experiences we've had. I'm telling people about my experience so they can make an informed decision and not regret it whichever phone they go with.
The sh!ttiest thing is that i'm pretty sure the SGS2 is going to have a better DEV community.
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maybe you just got a bad device, that is possible all phones arent created equal . I couldnt see getting the Amaze since i just had a sensation ,virtually the same phone now only amaze has a little more ram. i played with both phones for a while and the amaze just didnt interest me because i already had that plus HTC's build quality has gone to **** IMO, i had 4 sensations and they all went back for the same reason with the dust. I just opened my mind a little and im giving Samsung a chance
Samsung Galaxy s2 vs HTC Amaze 4g
Why did You choose SGS2 over the amaze?
This will be helpful for people who are stuck in between and need help deciding.
First of all let me say that my only reason for conducting these tests is to bring attention to any issues I find, so that they can be addressed by Samsung and T-Mobile. I am just the messenger, don't shoot.
If you have not seen the results of my display tests for this phone, I encourage to you to check them out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
I conducted the following tests with 4 phones. 2 Sprint Galaxy S II phones and 2 T-Mobile Galaxy S II phones. Now let's see how our phone compares with the Sprint phone when it comes to the front camera.
1. Front camera test using DSLR
For this test I borrowed some data from my earlier display test. All 4 phones were switched to front camera and the camera settings were reset to default. I then put the phones down on a table and took a picture with my Canon 60D.
Needless to say, this looks really really bad for T-Mobile sets. This is the test that gave me the idea that something else was going on here in addition to the well known screen problems of the T-Mobile/Telus phone. As we will shortly see, the T-Mobile phone is suffering from a double whammy of screen and camera problems in this test.
2. Low light test
For this test I lined up some random objects on the floor and took pictures using all 4 phones. The room was lit by one CFL bulb, pointed in the opposite direction of the objects being photographed. The camera settings were reset to factory settings. I used the 2-second timer to take pictures from the front camera. The EXIF data on all the pictures is identical. Please keep in mind that this test used jpeg data from the phone camera. And the screen defects played no role. Full size, un-edited pictures are available if you click on an image below.
Camera maker : SAMSUNG
Camera model : Sprint: SPH-D710 T-Mobile: SGH-T989
F-stop : f/2.8
Exposure time: 1/8 sec.
ISO speed : ISO-400
3. High light test
For this test I repeated test 2 above. But opened up the curtains to let the light in from outside and pointed the CFL bulb towards the objects being photographed.
Conclusion
And the parade of tears continues. Like the display, the front camera loses the battle badly. The hardware is supposed to be identical. Why does the T-Mobile continue to perform poorly? Was the QA team sleeping at the wheel?
The low light test probably needs no analysis. It is easy to see that the pictures from the T-Mobile phone are just plain dark. In the bright light test, if one is not paying attention it would be easy to overlook the washed out colors in the pictures produced by the T-Mobile camera.
I'll continue to update this post as additional data on the performance of front facing camera becomes available.
man im getting very disappointed with my phone, tmo users always getting the short end of the stick..
Wow, this is really eye-opening. I'm assuming you wiped off the lens on both phones before the tests? The T-Mobile one almost looks like it's shooting through a haze.
Also, has anyone done a comparison on the rear-facing cameras?
Both phones have the same parts... Just different processor. Im really starting to believe its a software issue.
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Dont forget to thank this guy for his hard work WOW. Still trying to get someone with some followers to voice a concern about this.
I noticed this a little too, but I totally overlooked it.. I will probably never use the front facing camera on any device... But it does both me that t-mobile devices are worse quality... Might as well purchase it at walmart
I seriously think I am going to side step to the Galaxy Nexus when it is available, mostly for the screen issues on Tmo GS2...
Well first of all no need for a separate thread for this ffc for all phones are crap. Second of all you need more precise test. Like see if Samsung and T-Mobile are using the Same screen manufacturer. You can see this by typing dsmeg. In terminal emulator. You have to remember that you have tested I say about 7-8 devices. Not all of them. Xda is about 1% of a total population that has Samsung galaxy 2
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phewizzo said:
Both phones have the same parts... Just different processor. Im really starting to believe its a software issue.
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SuperCurio the developer for voodoo screen tuning said this himself. We are missing the MdNie chip for processing the screen due to the chipset switch. Meaning Hardware.We emulate the chip in our phones using the Qualcomm MDP. Like i said it may can be fixed by getting better emulation software and samsung reworking the drivers for optimization for the screen. The closest update we have is the wifi calling update which will probably bring various bug fixes as well for the samsung galaxy s2.
I've done some video chat over Skype in the last few days and this has been the best front facing camera that I have ever used. People have noticed a much clearer and smoother image from the SGS2 FFC than from the 3 different PC webcams that I use. I don't know much about the Sprint version, but I've been very happy with ours.
Hopefully they will release an update to fix it...
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Both phones have the same parts... Just different processor. Im really starting to believe its a software issue.
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I have the same opinion.
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Well first of all no need for a separate thread for this
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We are talking about two separate issues here. You can use the camera to take a picture and analyze on a separate studio display. The phone screen does not play a part here. And any defects with the screen should be discussed separately.
ffc for all phones are crap.
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If all FFCs are crap then how come the Sprint Galaxy S II is taking better pictures with the same camera hardware?
Second of all you need more precise test. Like see if Samsung and T-Mobile are using the Same screen manufacturer. You can see this by typing dsmeg. In terminal emulator.
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It is easy to sit back and point fingers at the data that somebody put a lot of effort to produce. It identifies problems in this device so that they can be fixed. Samsung, T-Mobile and much of user community of this phone are oblivious to these issues.
What you say here is irrelevant and absolutely does not matter. The question I set out to answer was:
"Does the front camera on T-Mobile Galaxy S II take better or worse pictures than Sprint Galaxy S II". I answered that with my research and shared the results with everybody else.
You are very welcome to run your own tests and share the results with us. Additionally if you are going to ask others to go on wild goose chases for you, perhaps you should attempt to meet them halfway. I am assuming that you have the same T-Mobile phone as I, you can parse the dmesg as well as anybody else. Tell us what screen we are using. And we'll go from there.
SuperCurio the developer for voodoo screen tuning said this himself. We are missing the MdNie chip for processing the screen due to the chipset switch. Meaning Hardware.We emulate the chip in our phones using the Qualcomm MDP. Like i said it may can be fixed by getting better emulation software and samsung reworking the drivers for optimization for the screen.
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And how did you connect mDNIe to the front facing camera? I am not saying that it is not relevant, but I am curious to know if you have any real information connecting the two or if you are spouting nonsense again.
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Wow, this is really eye-opening. I'm assuming you wiped off the lens on both phones before the tests? The T-Mobile one almost looks like it's shooting through a haze.
Also, has anyone done a comparison on the rear-facing cameras?
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All 4 phones were wiped clean. They are like new to begin with.
I do not know of any comparison performed on the rear facing camera with the Sprint phone. I might do that one day, if there is enough demand.
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I've done some video chat over Skype in the last few days and this has been the best front facing camera that I have ever used. People have noticed a much clearer and smoother image from the SGS2 FFC than from the 3 different PC webcams that I use. I don't know much about the Sprint version, but I've been very happy with ours.
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The camera on the phones is better than the 0.3 megapixel cameras on most netbooks and notebook computers. However performs poorly under low light and renders colors incorrectly. In some use cases (e.g. plenty of light) many users will not notice an issue. Specially when they have not seen the output of the equivalent camera on the Sprint phone.
In short, the camera produces decent output for a front facing camera. But it can be much much better!
And that is the goal here. To wake up Samsung.
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We are talking about two separate issues here. You can use the camera to take a picture and analyze on a separate studio display. The phone screen does not play a part here. And any defects with the screen should be discussed separately.
If all FFCs are crap then how come the Sprint Galaxy S II is taking better pictures with the same camera hardware?
It is easy to sit back and point fingers at the data that somebody put a lot of effort to produce. It identifies problems in this device so that they can be fixed. Samsung, T-Mobile and much of user community of this phone are oblivious to these issues.
What you say here is irrelevant and absolutely does not matter. The question I set out to answer was:
"Does the front camera on T-Mobile Galaxy S II take better or worse pictures than Sprint Galaxy S II". I answered that with my research and shared the results with everybody else.
You are very welcome to run your own tests and share the results with us. Additionally if you are going to ask others to go on wild goose chases for you, perhaps you should attempt to meet them halfway. I am assuming that you have the same T-Mobile phone as I, you can parse the dmesg as well as anybody else. Tell us what screen we are using. And we'll go from there.
And how did you connect mDNIe to the front facing camera? I am not saying that it is not relevant, but I am curious to know if you have any real information connecting the two or if you are spouting nonsense again.
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You seem mad. You should calm down. Let me explain it to you. A chipset switch means different devices . Qualcomm and exynos the camera rendering is different on each device. Exynos chipset and qualcomm chipset are different.
The phones are nothing alike except in name. Its like taking a amd processor and comparing it to an i7 the way they work is totally different. Have you looked at the source code. I don't think so because if you did you know we have most of our drivers largely reworked for our processor.
Very little in common with our other variants. A sprint galaxy s2 is closely related to the original galaxy s2. Because it has the same chipset as the galaxy s2. The source even has similar drivers.
The only way to fix it is to have Samsung A) rework the drivers to make it the best they can it they haven't already did that yet. or B) recall all products and switch out processors. Either one is probably most likely not going to happen. Telus did the right thing by naming it Samsung galaxy x2 because that what it is. It is not a galaxy s2 in performance or anything except in name.
DNie -DNIe offers better detail than conventional televisions by using four proprietary processes that optimize and enhance image quality and sound: a Motion Optimizer that is a noise processing technology used to eliminate blurring and noise in moving images; a Contrast Enhancer that offers rich details and image quality; a Detail Enhancer that automatically analyzes the picture signal and reproduces images that result in lifelike video; a Color Optimizer that analyzes the video signals being generated so that the quantities of reds, greens, and blues are calculated to provide natural, realistic colors. The M part stands for mobile.
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The phones are nothing alike except in name. Its like taking a amd processor and comparing it to an i7 the way they work is totally different. Have you looked at the source code. I don't think so because if you did you know we have most of our drivers reworked for our processor.
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The processors are different. We all understand that. But the camera hardware is the same and the display hardware is the same.
Going by your example, If I had two PCs, sitting side by side, one had an AMD processor and the other had an Intel one, but everything else, including the monitor and the Logitech webcam attached were the same. Would I be so wrong to complain if the Logitech camera on one PC produced pictures that were much worse?
I think the problem is in the software and T-Mobile / Samsung rushed a product out the door, that was not quite ready for release.
People who paid good money for this product, deserve better. In the meantime I will try to help them find these problems that they seem to have overlooked.
If you think these manufacturers do not overlook problems when they ship products, I point you to Samsung Vibrant and its GPS problems as an example.
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The processors are different. We all understand that. But the camera hardware is the same and the display hardware is the same.
Going by your example, If I had two PCs, sitting side by side, one had an AMD processor and the other had an Intel one, but everything else, including the monitor and the Logitech webcam attached were the same. Would I be so wrong to complain if the Logitech camera on one PC produced pictures that were much worse?
I think the problem is in the software and T-Mobile / Samsung rushed a product out the door, that was not quite ready for release.
People who paid good money for this product, deserve better. In the meantime I will try to help them find these problems that they seem to have overlooked.
If you think these manufacturers do not overlook problems when they ship products, I point you to Samsung Vibrant and its GPS problems as an example.
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That chip is a big problem for us because that causing everything to look bad. If we had lets say a super lcd screen. We have the drivers to calibrate it correctly. The Qualcomm chips have the correct drivers for it. As i see in most galaxy 2 we are missing the part where we can calibrate the screen are self. A setting under display.
I not a big fan of samsung but the qualcomm chip is much weaker than the chipset in exynos.So is the gpu. It maybe samsung couldn't sacrifice performance trying to emulate precisely. So be wary of what we get because the update might make the phones performance worst. If you compared it to the amaze 4g since they have similar chipsets. The amaze takes great pictures back and front. Since HTC has optimized their device sensors and such for the drivers.
You can't really compare two computers like you do phones. Phones different so much from each other. It's not even funny. More like cars if i get the fastest Cadillac with the most powerful engine and then buy a Cadillac with a different engine then expect them to have the same horsepower and performance. Besides computers have a good integration phones do not. Yes i do feel things were rushed though.
Keep in mind our drivers are largely different. The MDNie chip is largely where our problem is if you read about the Dnie: "DNIe generally improves images are made sharper with DNIe, contrast is improved, and color accuracy is enhanced in many ways.That was from Samsung site. We have a hacked emulated one. You should talk to Samsung through online chat to show them the issues on our devices. Because on the phone i got people who had no idea of the problem. After 20 minutes waiting.
I think the OP got a defective tmobile phone! either that or he works for sprint and he's trying to convince us that their SGS2 version is better so we should switch. I've compared my phone side by side with the sprint one and there's no difference on the screen whatsoever, I tried different angles, different brightness, etc. Our phones are actually faster in my experience!
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I think the OP got a defective tmobile phone! either that or he works for sprint and he's trying to convince us that their SGS2 version is better so we should switch. I've compared my phone side by side with the sprint one and there's no difference on the screen whatsoever, I tried different angles, different brightness, etc. Our phones are actually faster in my experience!
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1. I have been through 3 T-Mobile phones. They all show the same symptoms. And there are plenty of other people who were complaining about the displays before I decided to get a little more scientific about it.
2. I do not work for Sprint. Otherwise I would not be hosting the pictures on my own website. My motivation is that I want the problems fixed. Is that really that hard to understand?
3. Plenty of people have said that they have done the comparison. Some find issues, others do not. Those who do not, have not actually put up any data to support their claims. I suspect most of these people are testing/comparing under bright lights where the T-Mobile display and camera problems are less obvious.
I have noticed this, while comparing my phone with my friend's S2. Honestly the factory settings are junk. I usually, at minimum, change the ISO setting to 200, to get decent pictures. -.-
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I have noticed this, while comparing my phone with my friend's S2. Honestly the factory settings are junk. I usually, at minimum, change the ISO setting to 200, to get decent pictures. -.-
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You cannot change the ISO when using the front camera.
Anyway, the user visible settings in the test are the same. Including the ISO. This can be verified by looking at the EXIF data in the photos.
The pictures produced by the cameras with the same exact settings should be equal in quality. They are not in this case. T-Mobile phones produced noticeably lower quality pictures every time.
Have been using it for 2 weeks and runs it under Mobilicity. Everything works fine with a little bit issues. Generally speaking it's a great phone.
Cons:
1. When I go to somewhere that has no coverage and come back to somewhere that has coverage. The phone keeps stay in roaming. I have to reboot it in order to make phone calls. (i think that has to do with my carrier mobilicity)
2. Too many useless apps built in, mainly t-mobile apps. Forcing me to learn how root phones and delete them... Not a very pleasant experience though.
3. The phone doesn't naturally support tethering because tmobile locks it. You have to root it and freeze or uninstall the ''tethering manager'' for tethering.
4. Poor video qualities (HQ) when watching youtube compares to my iphone 4S. When both of them in full brightness, the Hercules' brightness is dimmer and blurrier. However, this issue doesnt appear in my other video apps such as PPS.
5. Laggy front camera. Maybe it has to do with the cpu, when i try to take pictures using the front camera, it's laggy enough to make you don't want to use it anymore...*
6. No physical home key. It's kinda annoying when you are cutting fruits and always accidentally touch the sensitive home key then have to restart the game again.
7. Too ''round''. I don't get it why tmobile will make a custom designed phone that relatively uglier than many other new galaxy phones such as galaxy infuse or even the original s2. I personally can stand the plastic case, but not really with the round shape.
8. The music app. I don't know if this is because i came from iOS, but I am really having a hard time getting used to the music app of the phone. I can't change the volume as precise as i want. There is certain ''level'' i have to choose(1,2,3..) I don't really enjoy it because sometimes it's either too loud or too quiet. Another thing is that it will be quite laggy when you try to drag the little circle to a specific part of a song you want to listen.
9. Not many languages are supported. Unlike iphone which has most of the languages installed, this phone only comes with 7 or 8 languages. Korean is the only asian language supported.10.
Lastly, why everything is in a BLACK background color???????? Whether in email, music or settings it's ALL BLACK background! It will be much much nicer if we can change the background color. (yeah i kniw it can save some battety, but....)
Oh one more thing.......With it's 1.5GHz processor, why is the benchmark score still lower than Galaxy s2. I got around 2500 in average for 4 times testing. Whereas galaxy s2 can get around 300.
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Have been using it for 2 weeks and runs it under Mobilicity. Everything works fine with a little bit issues. Generally speaking it's a great phone.
Cons:
1. When I go to somewhere that has no coverage and come back to somewhere that has coverage. The phone keeps stay in roaming. I have to reboot it in order to make phone calls. (i think that has to do with my carrier mobilicity)
2. Too many useless apps built in, mainly t-mobile apps. Forcing me to learn how root phones and delete them... Not a very pleasant experience though.
3. The phone doesn't naturally support tethering because tmobile locks it. You have to root it and freeze or uninstall the ''tethering manager'' for tethering.
4. Poor video qualities (HQ) when watching youtube compares to my iphone 4S. When both of them in full brightness, the Hercules' brightness is dimmer and blurrier. However, this issue doesnt appear in my other video apps such as PPS.
5. Laggy front camera. Maybe it has to do with the cpu, when i try to take pictures using the front camera, it's laggy enough to make you don't want to use it anymore...*
6. No physical home key. It's kinda annoying when you are cutting fruits and always accidentally touch the sensitive home key then have to restart the game again.
7. Too ''round''. I don't get it why tmobile will make a custom designed phone that relatively uglier than many other new galaxy phones such as galaxy infuse or even the original s2. I personally can stand the plastic case, but not really with the round shape.
8. The music app. I don't know if this is because i came from iOS, but I am really having a hard time getting used to the music app of the phone. I can't change the volume as precise as i want. There is certain ''level'' i have to choose(1,2,3..) I don't really enjoy it because sometimes it's either too loud or too quiet. Another thing is that it will be quite laggy when you try to drag the little circle to a specific part of a song you want to listen.
9. Not many languages are supported. Unlike iphone which has most of the languages installed, this phone only comes with 7 or 8 languages. Korean is the only asian language supported.10.
Lastly, why everything is in a BLACK background color???????? Whether in email, music or settings it's ALL BLACK background! It will be much much nicer if we can change the background color. (yeah i kniw it can save some battety, but....)
Oh one more thing.......With it's 1.5GHz processor, why is the benchmark score still lower than Galaxy s2. I got around 2500 in average for 4 times testing. Whereas galaxy s2 can get around 300.
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Um you most have the tmobile version if you have to many bloatware apps im assuming the telus version has only 1 bloatware app.
Tethering isn't free on any carrier. Iphone you either need to pay or jailbreak your phone.
Um the sg2 has to be one of the brightest phone i owned. You need to raise the brightness maximum in display settings and uncheck auto adjust screen power. My friend has the iphone4s and his brightness pales in comparison he said. It doesn't look as good because its a lower resolution to the iphone4 but the colors look much better on the samsung galaxy s2
Front camera is not laggy. You may need to get that checked out. Might be defective.
Physical keys are dead with android and capacitive will be to. Only virtual keys on home screen it will be worse for you then in the future with an android device.
Design is preference wont argue with you there.
Music has dsp manager built in. When your in the music app press settings sound effects and equalizer customize how you want. For best sound quality.
That to i like a choice to choose background colors buts that's alright.
You score lower because Qualcomm processor is weaker than the exynos processor. But gets better connectivity to data services also capable of faster speeds. Apparently by anandtech are phone has better browser peformance than
standard exynos sg2.
Wow! ... all of that sounds a bit off, most of what's described seems like software issues that can be easily fixed once rooted
Reception wise this phone is waaaay better than any other phone I've used before
no problem picking up signal on its own on Wind
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This all just sounds like your personal wants aren't satisfied. Almost everything you mentioned is because "you" don't like it. Sounds to me like android was not meant for you my friends. Rooting is super simple on this device. Camera issue may just be your device and quadrant? Really? That's an issue?
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Phone can be used as is with any issues. Personally while you sound like you have complaints it sounds like your quite happy with the phone as you are able to do what you want not what someone else wants.
Reason why Android OS is mostly black for its been proven that darker screens help save battery life.. is there truth to that I don't know.. Run a phone with all white and see.
Personally I love the fact that you can root an Android phone and do as you damn well please!
You are correct this phone SUCKS!
But I can help!!!
I'll buy it!
How much do you want for it?
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LMAO +1
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I agree with you on some things, but if i only look at the negative aspects of this phone, you bet I will start to feel dissatisfied. Minor gripes will be had with any consumer products.
I think I'd rather be pretty stoked that I'm holding the hottest piece of pocket tech available right now.
Dude just checked again my front camera is really laggy... And i cant exchange it because i bought it through craigslist without receipt...
Just want to double check, is your phone's front camera as smooth as he back one? How about compare to iphone/itouch's front camera? Same? Or laggier?
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Dude just checked again my front camera is really laggy... And i cant exchange it because i bought it through craigslist without receipt...
Just want to double check, is your phone's front camera as smooth as he back one? How about compare to iphone/itouch's front camera? Same? Or laggier?
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i dont know about your carrier and if you have phone insurance, but for t-mobile if you have insurance, a problem with the camera would be covered and you could get a replacement..regardless of where you bought it (from a retailer or a 3rd party, ebay/craiglist etc..)...insurance follows the line not the device
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you are entitled to your opinion, however, it seems like a lot of the "cons" you have are nitpicking...not real issues...people are going to find something wrong with every device...but the overwhelming thought is that this phone is awesome and doesn't have any real major flaws
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Dude just checked again my front camera is really laggy... And i cant exchange it because i bought it through craigslist without receipt...
Just want to double check, is your phone's front camera as smooth as he back one? How about compare to iphone/itouch's front camera? Same? Or laggier?
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My front facing camera is laggier than the back also but it don't bother me.
no lag in my cameras on T989
it's practically instant shoot, non stop, just as advertised in the ICS 4.0 Galaxy Nexus event
back with the old phones i couldn't do non stop shooting, as it takes a while for the camera to react and safe file to storage
but in T989 it's so fast, like instant.
so, for those that says it's lagging, it's definitely a software issue, something other App is slowing down your phone
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no lag in my cameras on T989
it's practically instant shoot, non stop, just as advertised in the ICS 4.0 Galaxy Nexus event
back with the old phones i couldn't do non stop shooting, as it takes a while for the camera to react and safe file to storage
but in T989 it's so fast, like instant.
so, for those that says it's lagging, it's definitely a software issue, something other App is slowing down your phone
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It was like that before i root it. But is there any difference between your front camera and back camera in terms of smoothness??
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haha howd i know this was an iOS user before he stated it
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It was like that before i root it. But is there any difference between your front camera and back camera in terms of smoothness??
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the front camera seems more pixelated, and the auto light condition is not as great as the back camera
otherwise it's smooth natural movements (not jittery), more than adequate for any video conferencing chat
my old Nexus S was jittery (lag) using the front camera
Also i find that the 'HQ' mode in youtube is not really 'HD'. Anybody knows how do you watch really hd stuff??
The only way i know is go to the desktop verison and manally click 720P... 1080P will be laggy though...
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No point in streaming 720p or 1080p unless you have plugged your phone into an HDTV: the phone only has 480 lines of resolution. Waste of bandwidth.
on top of that, our 3G / 4G in Canada is extremely slow compared to other places
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Also i find that the 'HQ' mode in youtube is not really 'HD'. Anybody knows how do you watch really hd stuff??
The only way i know is go to the desktop verison and manally click 720P... 1080P will be laggy though...
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Hq means higher quality not hd... Which most phones only have a 800x480 resolution. So it amps it up to 480p
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Hq means higher quality not hd... Which most phones only have a 800x480 resolution. So it amps it up to 480p
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Yeah but i do find big difference between the hq and 720P!!!
Try it yourself...
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1. I have an sgs2 if anyone has had one did you make the switch and why?
2. Is the camera really as bad as some reviews?
3. Is there a way to get the official google updates on the ones that receive it from samsung?
4. Does anyone regret their purchase ?
Any info would be much appreciated
1. My Android journey -> N1, DHD, SGS2, GNex. I made the switch purely because I was madly in love with ICS ever since seeing it on a colleague's GNex, and the improved screen resolution on the GNex. The lack of fixed capacitative buttons have made for a nice added layer of personalisation (with custom ROMs of course).
2. I've taken a few shots with the GNex and am generally satisfied. I think for day to day point-to-shoot moments, it isn't bad at all. The zero shutter lag actually helps capture "the moment" well. But yes, I do miss the superb clarity of my SGS2's pics...
3. I won't even pretend to know the answer to this one, but will instead link you to this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391881
4. Hell no. Although if the rumoured Galaxy Nexus "Plus" is coming (faster OMAP4470 CPU @ 1.5GHz and 8MP cam) then I will... but this is just a rumour...
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1. I have an sgs2 if anyone has had one did you make the switch and why?
2. Is the camera really as bad as some reviews?
3. Is there a way to get the official google updates on the ones that receive it from samsung?
4. Does anyone regret their purchase ?
Any info would be much appreciated
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2. No. Like all cameras on phones it is fine in good light.
3. All updates are exactly the same whether they come from Google or Samsung.
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Thanks guys if anyone else has anything to add I would appreciate it
2. If you focus the Nexus before you shoot, it'll take good photos. That's all it takes really. Pretty much the same with all other phones. If you dont focus, it'll take okay pictures but if you make it focus first then it'll take good photos.
3. Yes, just flash yakju on your GSM nexus then you'll be good. It worked for me.
4. No regret at all.
I just wanted to say something about the camera.
"Capturing the moment" has not really been there for me because I use a pattern lock to secure my phone so I can't go to the camera app as quick as I wanted to. So if you use any type of lock screen that is not the slide one, I wouldn't think that would be that great.
Also about the quality, I would just recommend that you get a friend or go to a store with the galaxy nexus and compare it. I personally don't take many photos so I didn't really care about the quality but I gotta say... its worse than my sgs captivate in my opinion. So I would recommend trying it out for yourself.
Overall, if I had a sgs II I wouldn't switch because that device is still a great device and it will get ics sometime in the future. I would just save my money...
That was just my own personal opinion on the whole thing. Hope you make a good decision!
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I'm leaning towards the switch but I would like to actually use a unit before I make the final call so I might swing into a Verizon store and check one out.
Don't the hardware is a downgrade. The only thing it has is the screen and that's it.once the s2 gets ics it will be much faster and better
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I have spent 2 days with the nexus as a replacement for my water soaked SGS2(exynos) version. Before the haters get on me, i just want to give my honest opinions.
The Nexus is not as bad as many make it out to be. It does have a great screen and does feel nice in the hand. It is also pretty responsive as well.
Things i dont like coming from an sgs2...
-camera is terrible no matter how u put it-im sorry, it just is compared to sgs2
-micro stutter are quite frequent. There is a fair bit of lag throughout the whole phone. Whether it be scolling through web pages, homescreen, gallery or contacts, it just always has a bit of lag. Not crazy lag but again, coming from an SGS2 you never saw it anywhere.
-talking to people on the phone doesnt sound as clear
-speaker is weaker
-no SD
-battery is ok but not as good (could be because i have had it only for 2 days and also might need updates)
-browsers very fast but not as smooth in scrolling, pinch to zoom or playing videos
-apps not completely compatible yet (not nexus' fault)
Again, this is just my take on what i have seen. The phone just seems like a bit of a "work in progress". Also, i think sammy really put their full attention on the sgs2 and its software when they made it.
If you have a choice between the two, definitely go for the sgs2 unless you absolutely cant wait for ICS.
I like my Nexus but...
...i hear better reviews about the Galaxy S2 (better display)
Is that true? Better or worse in other ways?
the nexus screen is sharper and larger. the sgs2 screen is more vibrant and more contrast.
Infuse > SGS2 > GNex.
When I pick up my friends SGS2 to play around with it a bit, I gladly give it back to him.
The crisper and sharper screen with the noticeably higher resolution allows ics to shine. Don't listen to those who simply down play it's screen; it's pretty much *the* fundamental component of a touch screen device.
Good luck!
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I forgot to add one thing in my response to OP... I dearly, madly miss the ability to mount as USB storage in my GNex.
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I forgot to add one thing in my response to OP... I dearly, madly miss the ability to mount as USB storage in my GNex.
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I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
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Infuse > SGS2 > GNex.
When I pick up my friends SGS2 to play around with it a bit, I gladly give it back to him.
The crisper and sharper screen with the noticeably higher resolution allows ics to shine. Don't listen to those who simply down play it's screen; it's pretty much *the* fundamental component of a touch screen device.
Good luck!
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Thanks for the input but how can you say that out of those three phones the infuse is the best? That baffles me
So after reading reviews from tech crunch T3 engadget BGR etc etc I'm at 90% going for Nexus especially with the pure google experience and at least two years of updates ala nexus S rocking ICS
AndreaCristiano said:
Thanks for the input but how can you say that out of those three phones the infuse is the best? That baffles me
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I don't think that was meant as "greater than" signs, but rather arrows to show his device history.
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Camera quality
I had a Nexus and returned it, primarily because I didn't feel the camera quality matched my HTC Thunderbolt's (running Skyraider).
HOWEVER.
After a week without the Nexus, I got the bug to get ICS again, and all the bells and whistles that came with Samsung's device and the newest phone on the market. I use the camera for work, and after spending some time with it - I now feel it's every bit as capable as HTC's - and surpasses it in many ways. I think it was just dealing with something different that turned me off. Sure, it's 5 megapixels v. 8 ... but that's not an accurate comparison, since lens quality and picture-processing algorithms play such an important part. As others mentioned - the no-lag shutter is great, there are some fun built-in features, and video quality is outstanding. The ONLY thing I don't care for is that the photos are not in 16x9 format. That seemed odd to me, and I was discussing it with a friend who's into photography. He pointed out that the pix the Nexus is taking are in 6x4 format (I think that's right -- definitely not 4x3). He says that's an industry standard for printing photos -- that 16x9 presents a problem if you're trying to have a photo printed professionally. I'd still like the option to shoot 16x9 (if it's in there, I can't find it) -- but the camera is far better than some reviews (and my initial experience) would have you believe.
Stadsport said:
I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
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I love MTP when connected to my Win7 machine, but my netbook runs Linux, and I'm still figuring out getting MTPFS to automatically mount the phone's filesystem when I connect it. I can write a shell script to mount and unmount, but that isn't as nice as it "just working" on Windows.
Stadsport said:
I might be the only one on the planet who actually likes that it uses MTP. I like not having to worry about whether the phone or my computer has mounted the SD card while it's plugged in.
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+1
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