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Random Reboots...

Hey everyone, I looked around and didn't find anyone having my particular problem, but If I put this in the wrong place, or someone has already solved it, just let me know. Don't want to waste your time!
I got my DINC the day they came out in stores...the first one my local store sold in fact. It was working great, but I hated the bloatware and the fact that the Bluetooth stack was not up to date...couldn't connect with a new hands free speaker phone I just bought (Parrot mini-kit slim). I had occasional random reboots, but not too many. Once or twice a week maybe.
So when the unrevoked one-click came out I tried it. Worked great.
Then I started trying ROMs. With everything I've tried I get random reboots...a lot of them. Sometimes it reboots once and works fine for a couple hours. Other times, it will loop until I do a battery pull. When it loops it will sometimes make it all the way to the lock screen, sometimes it will only make it to the boot animation, and sometimes it won't get past the white HTC screen.
I've used a couple different nightly builds of CM6, with and without google apps. I've used Skyraider 1.8 and 1.9 with and without sense. I've tried "touch of photons". Same results and activity on all of them.
Last night I gave up and downgraded to unrooted 2.1 with sense...factory fresh. I reformatted my SD card with the phone, reformatted the phone storage, and I've done factory resets. It still isn't working right.
At this point, I'd be happy to get it back to pre-Unrevoked and just wait for the official OTA Froyo which is supposed to come out soon. Rooting and using a stable rom is fine with me too. I just need a phone that works consistently.
Any ideas? I'm pretty desperate.

sounds like you needed to return it and get a new one since it was doing random reboots from the day you bought it.
have you used any of the hydra kernels to try and OC it, the 1.15 OC would cause mine to reboot. a good stable rom that i tried was JagerRom, 1.7.4 is without sense, and chocolate is with sense. don't try the OTA one because that is for people who updated to the OTA leak and im going to assume you aren't one of thoes people. haha
http://incredibleroms.com/roms/jager/
hope this helps

Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
Does anyone know if there is something that could have gotten messed up with unrevoked or the roms I tried?
Is there another downgrade method I can use? I just installed the PB31IMG.zip you can find in a few places out there...is there a known reliable source for the downgrade zip?
If I can avoid fighting with Verizon on this I'd like to. I'm obviously outside my 30 days, and I don't want to wait a week or 2 or three or more for a new incredible (if I can convince them to get me one). I'm not even sure warranty or Asurion will do anything with this kind of a problem either...I fear I'm stuck with a $500 reboot roulette machine.

re
i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..

I also have had a reboot issue. I rooted the phone the day I got it and installed a senseless rom. It worked perfect the 1st day then started into a downward spiral of reboots till it went into a full boot loop. I did a nandroid back up of the original rom. No real issues since. Im still rooted and have only had one random reboot in about a week that I know of. I know the first issue was because of the rom but what causes the random reboots. Is it aloss of signal? Im a noob so Im just trying to get some insight.

Im on #2
I got my 2nd Incredible on Friday. Prior one would just get hotter and hotter (possibly due to signal issues) until it would enter a reboot loop. Hoping # 2 fares better.

johnsquared said:
Thanks Stroupified...
The weird thing is that the reboot issue wasn't that big of a deal before I rooted and started flashing roms. It happened, but not enough to be a problem.
Does the camera and camcorder work on Jager?
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ya everything works in jager. but from what everyone else is saying it seems like it could be the signal (or lack there of) that's causing the reboots. have you tried the hybrid prl? it uses the verizon and altell towers instead of just the verizon ones. i haven't tried it because im in cali and there aren't any altell towers near me, but if your stuck with the phone you might as well give it a shot if you live in the supported areas. good luck man.
Link to PRL thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723829

If you don't have problems with signal don't bother with the hybrid prl... it kills your data speeds because it switches you from Verizon data network to Sprints data in most areas. I know in the Carolinas phones randomly reboot a lot because thats Alltel country and phones don't work properly without the hybrid. But down south its mostly Verizon. Out west Texas/Ok is mostly Alltel.
But man honestly - I have the same issue on custom roms. My stock Sense rom does fine though. Sometimes I'll be on a custom rom typing a text and the keyboard just freezes and its over. lol nandroid time to me - I can't take the reboots but hate not having the features of newer software.

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i have tried the hybrid prl and it did not help my rebooting issues.
i have also tried switching to the the cdma codec to -b the higher quality compression... with no luck in fixing the reboots.
I have also made sure there was not an issue with an app causing it, i have tested mine with a clean / factory reset with absolutely no apps installed.
I have had 100% good luck with the leaked ota update, the one upped the camera to 720p recording as well as a hand full of other fixes, and not once did my incredible reboot or crash.
I'm pretty confident that htc has fixed this issue for me, once they drop the 2.2 update that everybody seems to be speculating will be released in a handful of weeks.

Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.

Me Too
johnsquared said:
Thanks for the input everyone, and I'm sorry others are having the same problem.
I went by my local Verizon store (actual Verizon store, not a 3rd part dealer) and told them my phone was rebooting repeatedly. They didn't even touch my phone...I was out of there in 5 minutes with a FedEx 2nd Day Air confirmation number for a new handset. And my wallet is intact also. I'm rarely impressed by Verizon's customer service, but this time...man... Between the new handset and the impending 2.2 update, I hope to be in good shape.
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Same EXACT thing happened with me and telesales. No scripts, no hard reset, no task killer; NOTHING. Said "my phone gets hot and reboots" and they said (last Thurs), let's get you a replacement overnight so you can try the new one out of the weekend. No muss, no fuss. Got here 10:30AM the next day, and my evil super-heating 4-to-13-reboot-try prone phone is going back.

sprintrjm said:
i have gone through 4 incredibles.
they all exhibited the same rebooting issues... completely stock with NO installed apps.
I have also tested the phones with 2 different batteries and with different sd cards and no sd cards installed.
I had done factory resets.
I get a ****ty cell connection where i live, -100 to -96 db.
Its looking more like a tower issue..
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I don't believe towers/signal would have any effect on shutting down or booting. Basically once you're on a current PRL, you really shouldn't even have to update it. Unless you're having that poor service deal where an Alltell/Vzw hybrid would benefit you.

[Q] Time for another "My EVO keeps mysteriously rebooting" thread!

You know em, you love em, random semi-reproducible problems!
I have been playing with my phone and enjoying the freedom of root access every since the original 2.2 OTA root method was posted (the downgrade unrevoked method). Its been great, but I started to have an annoying reboot issue that popped up every now and then. At first it was annoying, but now it is getting worse.
It SEEMS like it is temperature related. It started happening while the phone was charging, 4g was on, and wireless tethering (pre8) was running. First the connection between my computer and the phone would drop, then I'd reconnect, surf for another 5 mins or so, and the phone would reboot. Battery temp was reporting ~44C. After I let the phone cool down everything was fine.
I found that if I didn't have the phone on the charger or if I put the phone (battery side down) on top of a cool metal surface, the problem would not arise.
But then it started happening more often and under circumstances where it had previously not had any problems. Things like turning off my alarm, answering a call, playing alchemy. Under those cases, the battery was sometimes warm, but usually cool.
Last night it entered a reboot loop, where it just returned to the white HTC EVO screen over and over and over. It eventually turned off and the green light began to flash. I could not boot it up until I removed the battery and cooled both the phone and battery down. It was charging with a file downloading over 3g.
The problem is defiantly getting worse.
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I know that people are going to fire at me to wipe and reinstall (like in all the other threads) but that is the craziest part: I have. Many times. When it started to happen I thought it was the ROM, so I would change ROMS when it happened, but now I realize the problem is independent of the ROM in use.
I have used (and hit rebooting issues while the batter is hot and cold)
Stock (rooted) 2.1 and 2.2
Ava V5, V6, and V7
Fresh 3.2 (and a previous version, I don't recall which)
BakedSnack 1.6 and 1.7
Evo Zone 8.29
Vaelpak 1.3 and (I believe) 1.2
A couple of Virus' ROMs
I have used the stock 2.1, 2.2, and 3.2 HTC kernels and King's #s 6, 8, and 5, all with the same problems.
I even nandroided to backups that I had previously NOT had the issue with, only to immediately reboot. It really looks like software is not the issue, but I'm not sure.
As you may gather from this, it has been an on going issue for quite some time. I always do a full wipe (all caches, dalvik, et all) between ROMS. I'm out of ideas, do I need to S-ON and OTA then return this bad boy to sprint? Any ideas?
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Forgot to add, I am using ClockWork recovery, and flashing ROMs manually (through recovery, not a ROM manager app)

Quick bump for interest and posible solution. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue, but I just want to be sure.

Even though I'm always going on about how clockwork always works fine for me, and wipes everything correctly, I'll be the guy here to suggest trying to flash with amon ra a few times. If you still run into issues, I'd say that your battery is borked. But before returning the whole thing, maybe pick up a cheap extra battery off of ebay, and see how it works with that?

Just so I am clear on what to do, if I want to return the phone for service, I need to run the S-ON tool from unrevoked, then accept the OTA and I should be good to take it in, right?

Yes flash s-on then run RUU

i am having exactly the same issue
i've been on cm6 for over a month and it started about 2-3 weeks ago, at first i thought it was the temperature too but recently it started rebooting at completly random moments. I flashed baked snack yesterday and put a new battery in, same thing, random reboot
i flashed deoxed newest update with no mods today to see if that would fix the issue, 3 minutes after i did, i was signing in to my google account - reboot
turned the phone on, and 1 minute later reboot and loops....
any ideas?
using RA recovery btw, wiped everything before i flashed.

It's the HARDWARE
Guys,
Just thought I'd share a little of my experience with this phenomenon.
I had a HW003 Nova since the release of the Evo. I started experiencing random reboots every so often about a month or so later.
These progressed regardless of what version of Android, or which rom, or which kernel, bootloader, OTA update, S-ON, S-OFF, Bone stock or rooted.
After barely managing to get the phone back to it's factory state, I replaced it no questions asked on my second visit to Sprint repair center.
My refurbished replacement (Also HW003) was fine for a whole 5mins before it started doing the exact same thing. I gave it back to the technician, and put in the order for my second replacement. As per the advice of the technician, if my next replacement has any problems at all, I'm supposed to call Sprint customer service directly in hopes of a longstanding solution (read: Ask for a brand new phone)
Not trolling or starting ****, because I love my Evo, but let's be realistic.
These phones are built like garbage. At least the original crop of them is.
They use some good parts, but they are manufactured in a cheap manner.
Probably in cheap factories using cheap labor, and cheap materials.
While not every Evo is junk (my girlfriend hasn't had any problems with her's in over 3 months) you have to figure that one out of every few thousand is probably going to have some kind of defect, be it light leakage, bad screen grounding, broken USB connector, or even the infamous nonsensical, irrational, arbitrary reboot/power-cycle.

Sounds like what was happening to me too. I just took it to repair center and after a couple trips they replaced it. First they put a new battery in, said they couldn't reproduce the reboot but in three minutes I did. After that they ordered a new one.
In the beginning it was so random and appeared to be a heating issue too, then it just got worse and worse. Seemed like I could use the phone without issues if I wasn't taxing the phone too much but it progressively got worse and got to the point of it being maddening. Then it was hanging on splash screen and boot looping. Uprooted and took her in. Sounds like thats your best bet. I tried different ROMs, stock, etc etc.
Just take it in after doing what you need to do. Good luck.
SWYPED from my SUPASONIC

[Q] Incredible heats up and reboots

I have been having this problem for what seems like a few weeks now, but it has gotten worse over the past week or so. I rooted my Inc and have flashed a few roms to test them out ( got most from Rom Manager as I was told those are pretty reliable ). I have this issue that seems to be pretty constant now, I will be using my phone, like downloading an app from the market or listening to music and I will pop into google maps to get directions or see where my latitude friends and family are, and poof! my phone reboots, then it goes into a boot loop and doesn't usually fix itself until I pull the battery. I do notice that the battery gets pretty hot at the same time. If I pull the battery and keep it out till it cools, it will usually fix the issue for a short time... but then it happens again ( no matter what rom I am running) Someone told me the radio may be causing this, anything to that ?
I am currently running Redemptive R-EVO-lution 1.6
Ver 2.2
Baseband Ver.
2.15.00.07.28
Kernel Ver.
2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
htc-kernel(at)and18-2#1
Build Number
3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Browser Ver.
Webkit 3.1
Pri ver.
1.28_002
Prl
52011
Eri Ver.
5
Any suggestions or help, would be great.
Thanks!
Steve

I don't know a whole lot about android but I do know most devices have builtin failsafes when it comes to batteries. So, your battery may be the issue here and not the device itself. If you know someone else with an incredible then try to trade batteries for a day. If the problem doesn't repeat, or even starts happening on the other device then you know you have a defective battery.
Other than that, you'll have to wait for someone more knowledgeable than I to give you their thoughts. Good luck.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

Install something to view your battery heat you may be over heating it
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App

will do
Is there an app you'd recommend for the battery app heat ?

pulling info will heat the phone...use setcpu it checks for battery temp and displas it on the widget... do you have GPS on? any downloads over 3g tend to heat the phone a bit too..as does anything that uses the GPS....
check your phone usage and see if anything looks out of whack, maybe an app that is drawing a lot of battery etc...
you can flash back to the stock rooted 2.2 and see if that does the same thing....i'm running the desire rom with adrynalyne SSUV kernel and phone is steady at 95*

Installed setcpu... will keep an eye on that for the next 24 hours and see what happens. Do you have any recommendations on profile settings in setcpu ? Thanks again for the help.
-Steve

I was having the exact same issues, and thought it was heat for the longest time as well.
Digging around online, I found that my issue was related to the phone switching towers on a low signal. It seems that there may have been a bad batch of phones in there with this problem - because I found a LOT of examples when I looked for them.
Anyway, I had it replaced by Verizon and it's been great ever since. It hasn't rebooted on me once. Maybe you are having the same issue.

The actual answer
All deference to the prior posters, but SetCPU has nothing to do with it.
I had this as well on my first Incredible (I am on #3). As the above poster indicated, there IS a problem with the earlier batches of Incredibles. They were built with faulty hardware radios. As they struggle to compensate to find a signal, they heat. Once they hit a point, they reboot. Mine would go into a reboot loop between 4-13 times before actually booting, and it would virtually never go into custom recovery (at least not unless it was off for a while).
You do not need a new kernel, you do not need SetCPU, you do not need a battery checker ... you need to call Verizon, tell them your phone gets super hot even with no use, and enters a reboot loop. They will send you a refurb (I received a refurb with a pre-blown speaker) and you will enter refurb-hell until you get one that works.

I really appreciate your input, I put setcpu on my DInc. and have it set to drop the CPU to 600 if the battery temp hits 100, has been like that all day and so far, it hasn't rebooted once. If the problem continues, I will have to goto verizon and play the refurb game, but i HATE the refurb game and like so many of us, I NEVER win the first few times I play.
11RJB, what did you look up specifically to find out about the bad batch of phones??
Thanks again guys/girls

11RJB said:
I was having the exact same issues, and thought it was heat for the longest time as well.
Digging around online, I found that my issue was related to the phone switching towers on a low signal. It seems that there may have been a bad batch of phones in there with this problem - because I found a LOT of examples when I looked for them.
Anyway, I had it replaced by Verizon and it's been great ever since. It hasn't rebooted on me once. Maybe you are having the same issue.
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Did you revert the phone back to stock and unrooted?

You are few to do with your phone as you see fit but please understand you are now throwing a software band aid over a known hardware problem.

respect your suggestion
jdmba said:
You are few to do with your phone as you see fit but please understand you are now throwing a software band aid over a known hardware problem.
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If I did choose to bring the phone back to verizon, I would need to unroot it and put it back to stock 2.2 with sence, right ? Is the OTA rom out there anywhere ? I am not trying to argue with you, just trying to avoid dealing with the nards at the verizon store... LOL
-Steve

Yes
There are so many threads out on XDA on unrooting an Incredible for warranty return that I weep a little bit. A little searching will bring them up. I too did NOT want to enter refurb hell, but when the phone would become unusable for hours (usually later in the day) because of the heat, I had little choice.

So you had to go through a few exchanges to get a good unit, right?

Now on my 3rd DInc: ( still playing the refurb game.... this sux
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

rockinr6 said:
I have this issue that seems to be pretty constant now, I will be using my phone, like downloading an app from the market or listening to music and I will pop into google maps to get directions or see where my latitude friends and family are, and poof! my phone reboots, then it goes into a boot loop and doesn't usually fix itself until I pull the battery. I do notice that the battery gets pretty hot at the same time. If I pull the battery and keep it out till it cools, it will usually fix the issue for a short time... but then it happens again ( no matter what rom I am running) Someone told me the radio may be causing this, anything to that ?
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Even though I don't own an Incredible, I have the exact same issue with my Desire. I was thinking of going for an Incredible S. Anybody experienced any such issues with Incredible S? I bought my Desire around Q3 of 2010.

Overheating?

I seem to be having an issue with my phone overheating and rebooting. It seems to happen consistently when using navigation or when playing games (I'm hooked on Gem Miner). Always at an inopportune time. To me this seems like a result of bad hardware or something but is it possible that rooting and installing ROMs like CM7 or Kingdom Stock Sense?
I bought my phone at Best Buy and ended up getting the warranty, so assuming I can revert the phone back to stock, I should be able to get this covered under warranty. Right?

My phone gets hot when under stress, but that's totally normal. But for it rebooting, that could mean bad hardware. What rom are you on? Some roms will run hotter than others.
Sent from my HTC Incredible

Well how it is it getting before it reboots? I think at 119F it will reboot/shut off and flash the LED. Seems like kernels can also impact heat, as well as custom undervolting mods.

TheWhiteBandito said:
My phone gets hot when under stress, but that's totally normal. But for it rebooting, that could mean bad hardware. What rom are you on? Some roms will run hotter than others.
Sent from my HTC Incredible
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I was using CM7 for a while (pre-7 and up to 7.0.3) and recently tried Kingdom Sense. Under both of those I could only get a few moments of navigation before it would just completely shut down.
I actually just restored the stock ROM (though I'm still running S-OFF) and it doesn't seem to be overheating anymore. I guess I'll have to see what happens. It would totally suck if I am forced to stay on the stock experience after having been rooted/ROM'd for so long...

k_nivesout said:
Well how it is it getting before it reboots? I think at 119F it will reboot/shut off and flash the LED. Seems like kernels can also impact heat, as well as custom undervolting mods.
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Hot enough that it's shutting down. I couldn't tell ya specifically.

k_nivesout said:
Well how it is it getting before it reboots? I think at 119F it will reboot/shut off and flash the LED. Seems like kernels can also impact heat, as well as custom undervolting mods.
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Its higher than 119F. Mine hit 122F the other day and didn't reboot, unless the safety shut off didn't kick in on mine. Don't think it is much higher than that though before it does.

I had heard it shuts down at 119 but my phone hasn't ever gotten that hot. I've only managed to get it up to about 114, that was multitasking and charging, overclocked to 1113.

When it reboots, do you get 5 vibrations and then the indicator flashes green until you pull the battery? If so, you are starting to have serious problems.
This thread helped me recover my Incredible..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982454

I had mine at 120F the other day loading a new rom and no shut off
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Mine gets hot when using wireless tether.

jetsaredim said:
I was using CM7 for a while (pre-7 and up to 7.0.3) and recently tried Kingdom Sense. Under both of those I could only get a few moments of navigation before it would just completely shut down.
I actually just restored the stock ROM (though I'm still running S-OFF) and it doesn't seem to be overheating anymore. I guess I'll have to see what happens. It would totally suck if I am forced to stay on the stock experience after having been rooted/ROM'd for so long...
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I'm leaning toward a hardware issue. The reason I say that is because I'm using CM7.0.3 and Chad's Incredikernal and when I use navigation I also connect my car charger and have never had a heat issue nor any reboots. I drove from SC to FL back in Feb and had navigation running the whole time.

Yea, I'm thinking its a hardware issue. I just downloaded Cut the Rope and can consistently get it to reboot/overheat after about 10-15 min of play. Only problem is that I'm not sure if the geniuses at the Best Buy warranty center will notice the S-OFF or not and if so how do I revert that when I don't have CWM on my phone anymore...?

jetsaredim said:
Yea, I'm thinking its a hardware issue. I just downloaded Cut the Rope and can consistently get it to reboot/overheat after about 10-15 min of play. Only problem is that I'm not sure if the geniuses at the Best Buy warranty center will notice the S-OFF or not and if so how do I revert that when I don't have CWM on my phone anymore...?
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You can get S-On by using the "S-On" tools by unrevoked, Don't think I can post links just yet but you can copy/paste the URL below, it should help guide you.
unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you should see a FAQ section.
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
The link to the S-On tool can be found at the URL above, I copied/pasted so you would know what to look for.

fLaWx said:
You can get S-On by using the "S-On" tools by unrevoked, Don't think I can post links just yet but you can copy/paste the URL below, it should help guide you.
unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and you should see a FAQ section.
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
The link to the S-On tool can be found at the URL above, I copied/pasted so you would know what to look for.
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I assume you're not completely an expert in this matter, but let me see if I get this right... I have to go back to having CWM on my phone so I can apply the S-ON zip and then re-run the stock recovery to get back to complete 100% stock. Sound right? I wouldn't even consider it if I didn't think there was a slight chance that I'd get flagged on the warranty review for having S-OFF set. I don't want them to have any reason to deny my getting a new phone.

Hi - long time lurker, barely ever post, but I'm gonna chime in here.
My DInc also reboots, and it is warm to the touch when it does happen. Don't know how hot though sry. I've been rooted since November, but haven't installed a Custom Rom, just removed bloat, and added some other useful tools. The biggest change I've made was changing the fonts. I don't over/under clock either (it runs just fine for me). My reboots seem to be increasing in number. At first it would be once a month, then a few times a week, and now a couple times a day.
Sometimes, my phone will reboot just once, and then continue to work. Sometimes 2-3x in a row, and then continue to work or not. Sometimes, it just vibrates 5x quickly, and then is locked (LED flashes), and the only way to recover is to pull the battery and start over.
Seems to happen MOSTLY around certain times of day - 4:30-6pm when I'm on my way home from work (no, not using my phone, but it happens anyway), and around lunchtime (again, not using it, or if I am it's barely). Other times it happens too - but really randomly. I'm ruling out different apps that might be triggering it, but don't think that's the issue.
QUESTION - if it is heat related, and the phone is supposed to go into shut-down mode at 119*, but seems to be different temps for everybody, could it be the thermostat? Could it be registering a false temp reading and think it needs to shut down? Has anyone explored this?
I'm not an engineer, or even a programmer, but I like to play one on TV. Thx

Oh - I forgot to add this:
There have been times when it would reboot, and I've placed my phone and battery (removed from phone) on the vents of an airconditioner, or even sitting on a frozen ice pack (the kind for a cooler) and it would still happen afterwards. To the touch, my phone would be cold, not freezing, but cold. Seriously lower temp than what it was when it was very warm to the touch...

I'm definitely with you on the first scenario. I just brought it to my local Best Buy where I bought it (with warranty) and they sent it off and gave me a loaner DInc to use till mine's repaired. They said, if they can't repair it, they'll give me a DInc2 as a replacement since the Dinc1 is "backordered" (aka not being carried).

jetsaredim - I was able to get a replacement DInc sent to me overnight (free!). My first replacement had a faulty USB port, so I couldn't charge my phone. I have 'another' DInc being sent to me now. Other than the faulty USB port, I haven't had any overheating issues so far (knock on wood).
First phone manufactured in June 2010
First replacement phone, manufactured in April 2010, and remanufactured June 2011 (via ##7764726)

I just got my replacement Incredible today. I just tested my original phone again by watching 15 minutes of video on youtube and BANG!!!!!!!!!! It rebooted as usual. Screen and battery get very warm. The reboots seem to happen when watching videos online or offline, playing games for 10 to 15 minutes, browsing the web for 15 to 20 minutes, using Google Maps with or without charging at the same time, and charging and talking on the phone at the same time. Well, I'm sending back the original and hoping that the replacement doesn't fail me. Glad that I swapped it just before the manufacturer warranty was up.

Have had the Dinc since week one. 100% stock - have not rooted (yet) and stock battery - in the past month it has 'overheated" and rebooted twice. Never happened before. Both times while using navigation and charging. Could it simply be the battery? It's not holding a charge like it used to too which also makes me wonder about the battery.

Menu key menu pops up during low signal

I have an extremely annoying issue. I've seen some posts reporting this on various boards, but it seems most people throw a default answer out there that it's a hardware issue. I'll explain why I don't think that's the case.
The menu that comes up with you press the "menu" capacitive key has been popping up and down rapidly and repeatedly when I'm in a low signal area. This didn't start happening until after Samsung/Sprint fixed the LOS issue. I'm thinking it has something to do with the way they fixed it, which I don't have any technical or general knowledge of. Most of the time, the screen and keys will not be responsive unless I hit the power key to turn the screen off and turn it back on. It's even more annoying since it vibrates everytime the key is "pressed". I don't think this is simply a hardware issue as the only time this presents itself is the same times the LOS issue used to. I'm sure it's tied to that fix somehow.
Is anybody else having this issue? This may be a long shot, but I installed the LOS Checker zip, (I forgot which dev created it), and never uninstalled it, but I've upgraded many roms since then and don't think it would still be installed.
If any of you do have this issue, did you ever install that LOS Checker zip?
Rom= Blazer Rom EL29 v3.8
Kernel = rogue 1.4.1

Started happening to me recently as well. Im running Calks still on GB with ICS theme. I haven't paid attention to my signal when it happens but you are right, turning off the screen does stop it momentarily. I agree this may not be a hardware issue as well. I've just been bearing it because I plan on changing phones soon anyway.
Edit: It just started happening after this post. Signal was at 1 bar...
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Zoidpilot said:
Started happening to me recently as well. Im running Calks still on GB with ICS theme. I haven't paid attention to my signal when it happens but you are right, turning off the screen does stop it momentarily. I agree this may not be a hardware issue as well. I've just been bearing it because I plan on changing phones soon anyway.
Edit: It just started happening after this post. Signal was at 1 bar...
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Did you happen to install this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326569

Happens to me too. Menu button hitting itself at random times.
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I have this same issue. I never realized it correlated with low signal. The issue cropped up 3 times today and each occurrence was with low signal. Good eye sir.
Do any of you undervolt or use a kernel that runs less than standard voltages?
My device is undervolted quite a bit and was wondering if it may be part of issue as i don't remember having this problem prior to that.
I am removing my undervolts and will report back if i still have this issue.
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I'm on stock rooted. Always happens on different occasions. I just turn the screen on and off and usually it'll fix the problem
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I was gonna post the same thing I just realized this morning that it always coincides with low signal
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I think its a hardware issue. Im running the same setup on my replacement phone and haven't had the issue since.

I experienced this ever since I got the phone back in september but I didn't wise up until the 14 day period ended. there are two threads in the Q&A section concerning this, one that i started and another that i contributed to.
I would be trying to text and the menu button would pop up and i would accidently hit something on the menu that came up bc the button spazzes out randomly and consecutively and sometimes for a solid 5 seconds, but like the rest of you im sure, it wasnt confined to any single app so it was impossible to find one thing to blame. it would have to be something system-related or hardware-related (btw i did flash the LOS checker some time ago)
I believed the low signal theory for a while, as well as having a corrupted flash. but I experienced the spasms with full bars of service AND after a complete Odin restore to stock everything without restoring any of my past data whatsoever. thus I deferred to the "default" that it is hardware-related.
that was months ago.
I got so fed up with it, i decided to do anything to make it stop. So, I recently opened up my device and took everything apart and found that the water indicator just above the capacitive buttons had been activated. keep in mind I DID NOT EVER have any encounter with water. in fact, the other water indicators were perfectly undisturbed. this pissed me off because that means there might have been an accident or something while they were being manufactured that would have damaged the button - idk just another theory.
This is my main piece of evidence supporting my claim that it is hardware-related:
I ended up breaking the screen trying to separate the glass from the digitizer (stupid, I know bc theyre fused together) so I ended up buying a new screen/digitizer. put it in myself. i haven't had it since. I'm running the EXACT same set up as before I replaced my screen and its been about a week and no instances. I would be experiencing the sporadic menu button randomly, several times a day but it has completely disappeared.
i suggest to you all: bring it in to Sprint if you bought it from them or invest in a new screen off ebay if you bought it from a 3rd party seller (Amazon, wirefly, letstalk), i got my new screen for $65 shipped and it was in pristine condition. now im living a happily-ever-after ending
i'll keep a close eye on this thread to help you all with your endeavors/theories though
if any of you plan on opening up ur device, i suggest you do some homework so as not to destory your phone - its still an amazing device. or you can just ask in this thread and i can give tips to everyone
good luck!!

Thanks for all the updates.. I've noticed I'll sometimes get this error, but my phone will be showing full bars where I KNOW I have a poor signal.. for instance, my elevator at work..
Is there any sort of logging app I could run and go into an area I know this will happen to find out what's going on?

IsThisOneTaken said:
Thanks for all the updates.. I've noticed I'll sometimes get this error, but my phone will be showing full bars where I KNOW I have a poor signal.. for instance, my elevator at work..
Is there any sort of logging app I could run and go into an area I know this will happen to find out what's going on?
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sometimes the signal bars are inaccurate (like you described). your true signal is found in settings>about phone>status>signal strength. 0-1 bars is really about -90 to -100 dBm
devs use logcats to analyze issues with the internals
http://forum.samdroid.net/f38/tutorial-how-get-logcat-example-check-battery-drain-2543/

I just checked a few other boards and it seems a number of people have confirmed it correlates wih low signal. There are a few people that keep popping up on multiple threads stating it's a hardware issue, only because a new screen fixed it. I would be fine with that logic if there weren't so many people stating it correlates with low signal. Also, it seems most people haven't really experienced this issue until after the LOS fix. Now, at the same times I used to have LOS issues, I now have this. I'm guessing it has something to do with internals and whatever they did to update it may be separate from modems or roms, since people have gone back to stock and still experienced this issue.
I haven't done a search, but is there an information source that states exactly what Samsung did to address the LOS issue?

I'm going to ODIN back to the original shipped EG30 package and test it out.. I never did OTA updates.. always through ODIN, etc. I'm going to see if I update through OTAs if anything is different. I'll report back.

I had experienced it since around the 1st week of october. i didnt have los fixed until i flashed chris41g's experimental kernels, not sure when all that was though. i was convinced it was related to signal too, but i would still happen on the highway/in public with 3 bars of 4g and ~50-60 dBm
would be interesting if you figure it out though

Yea I ODIN'd back to EG30 and now OTA'd to EL29.. no issues yet but we'll see tomorrow when I'm in elevators. After doing all this, I realized I probably need to do a full EEPROM reset and then go through this... don't really feel like doing that tonight though.

Im pretty sure this is in fact a samsung phone issue in general. I came over to sprint and the e4gt from verizon and the fascinate. I loved that phone, but it had this exact same issue. I have not in fact had it happen to me so far with the e4gt yet. I have a sneaking suspiscion that this issue goes hand in hand with undervolting, but thats just my own personaly theory.
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Happens to me on the rare occasion as well. Might be an issue with the phone?

I called this one during the LOS era. It definitely occurs in low signal areas. I could never get LOS so I went into known dead spots and sure enough those random pop ups happened
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Im pretty sure this is in fact a samsung phone issue in general. I came over to sprint and the e4gt from verizon and the fascinate. I loved that phone, but it had this exact same issue. I have not in fact had it happen to me so far with the e4gt yet. I have a sneaking suspiscion that this issue goes hand in hand with undervolting, but thats just my own personaly theory.
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I noticed there were a few other threads on Samsung devices with issues.... hmmm. Did you ever try limiting your underclocking to a higher clock speed? This may be a noob question but for the EG4T, is anything less than 800mhz considered underclocking?

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I called this one during the LOS era. It definitely occurs in low signal areas. I could never get LOS so I went into known dead spots and sure enough those random pop ups happened
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I believe I remember seeing your post haha... I'll see what I can do if I mess around with clock speed.