I'm aware ill need sprint apps back in place for the OTA to work (and no I'm not waiting for an update.zip, I kinda wann "pop my cherry", so to speak). So I'm just gonna restore my root-only di18 nandroid backup.
My question is about restoring data once on 2.2. Will a /data nandroid restore work? If not, will the adb method of restoring nandroid /data (picking and choosing) work?
If neither of those, then I'm assuming titanium backup?
Lol is anything compatible?
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Nadroid restore will not work you need to have the default recovery, so you can either go through the work of ODINing your phone to stock or wait less than a day to have a flashable .zip of the update.
No I'm not on dk28 I don't need to odin anything...and of course I'll restore the stock recovery, I meant once I have clockwork on 2.2
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Doing an advanced recovery data should work i think i hope maybe
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You.might have some problems restoring.data going from different android versions? I haven't done it myself to know for sure. But you might have some trouble with that.
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No I'm not on dk28 I don't need to odin anything...and of course I'll restore the stock recovery, I meant once I have clockwork on 2.2
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If i flash over it it should be food right?
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Honestly your best bet is to wait. What are you gonna do if the ota blocks root? I've seen it with my evo where you have to use the ruu of a older version before you root it. Ruu for htc is like odin for samsung. Don't be impatiant. The day ota drops I'm sure that same day xda devs will have something a couple hours after
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Watch them come out with the root even before froyo comes out like they did with the phone
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I flashed lostkernal with root and cwm i am not happy with it i lost my wifi i want to go back to stock unrooted what do i do? Just update to get back my ek02 and lose root or something else. Please advise
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Search is your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
Im not able to post in the dev side yet, still working on my first 10 posts. So.. a tiny history, I am comming from 2+ yrs experience with WebOS and pre- & pre2. I am very familiar with customizing with preware, using all the patches & OC kernels.
So, what I have noticed, although webOS & Droid are both Linux based, it seems that they are fairly different when it comes to customizing.
This is my issue, I have a galaxy S2 epic 4g touch (sprint). When I got it, it was on EG30 (2.3.4). I was able to root and flash LOS and didnt have any issues. When the 2.3.6 update was pushed out, I didnt have a chance to unroot, so I ended up having to wipe/restore back to 2.3.4, then I tried to reroot, I got the no wifi and bootloop. I wiped and resotred again, all was ok, and I tried to root manually with the e4gtauto method, that I found for the EK02 stock system. Well, all was perfect, until just ran a backup with titanium, not restore, but just a back up. Is that my problem? Having titanium installed when rooted? I have been trying to follow QBKing77's processes, but need to just have a confirmation on the best process to root EK02 SPH-D710 on 2.3.6
Thanks,
sj
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Titanium and root is not going to cause the issue you describe.
For some reason going from los to stock sometimes has wifi issues. I suggest you backup, then odin the eg30 factory restore in my sig
When that is done, do a ##786# reset from dialer and let the hamds free activation take place.
Verify wbether wifi works. If it does apply the ek02 ota update.
Then start restoring your data backup.
Thanks for the response. I have been able to get my phone updated to ek02 with out any issues. As of right now, it is a fresh install with the ota update ran to get to 2.3.6, I have all my apps/data restored. The only thing I want to do is root, install latest cwm, SU, and busybox. When I tried to manually root, it worked perfect, so it seemes, I didnt have any problems until the next morning. I was wondering too, do I need to be rooted already to do a nandroid backup?
sj
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You need cwm to do a nandroid backup. Technically you do not need "root" to have cwm, but practically if you have cwm you'll probably have added root as well.
I guess I don't understand what "problem" you are seeing 1-day later. You said you got by the wifi problem. Any chance your problem is related to the restore? Are you restoring only user elements or system elements as well?
The wifi issue the ive seen I thought was a common problem with the latest update, but ive found that it is not connected to the bootloop problem. The wifi issue that ive seen is that it stops functioning until you restore back to stock. That is what I have done, reinstalled the stock ROM from sprint, updated to 2.3.6, then rooted. (currently not rooted) but every time ive tried, it seems to be unstable and I end up in a bootloop..
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What I want to do is root as stable as possible. I dont have to, but from my experience, the devices are much better when rooted with the added functionality that you have access to.
Question about nandroid backups, does that type of back up take a snapshot of how your device is at the time of backup? Does restoring a nandroid backup put your phone back to the exact state it was when backed up? Root and all with apps and settings?
I want to be able to create a backup where I dont need to manually fix all my apps & settings, or is that even possible too?
Thanks for the help..
sj
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That is what I have done, reinstalled the stock ROM from sprint, updated to 2.3.6, then rooted. (currently not rooted) but every time ive tried, it seems to be unstable and I end up in a bootloop..
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If you've rooted using the Auto Root package, there is no chance that is causing your bootloop (nor your wifi problems). Other root methods which involve a new kernel might cause something like that, but not for the general case or many people would be complaining.
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What I want to do is root as stable as possible. I dont have to, but from my experience, the devices are much better when rooted with the added functionality that you have access to.
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I didn't re-read the whole thread to see what root method you used, but that is one of the reasons the Auto Root package exists. A minimalist approach to rooting that uses your existing stock kernel/rom.
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Question about nandroid backups, does that type of back up take a snapshot of how your device is at the time of backup? Does restoring a nandroid backup put your phone back to the exact state it was when backed up? Root and all with apps and settings?
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It dumps the images of your system/data/cache/kernel partitions. It will restore everything to just like it was, except for the modem, which isn't backed up.
Thanks again for the responses. So, if I am rooting with the autoroot tool, what can be causing my no wifi & bootloop issues? I have tried with a fresh restore (to stock 2.3.4) and then root, and I have also tried a rooted EK02 ROM, both become unstable after resetting..
Im kinda bummed that I cant figure this out.
After it being super simple to root/oc 2.3.4, im frustrated that it is so different now.. :/
sj
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Different kernels and OC are potential culprits. With the bootloop, I would think my first suspect would be OC/undervolt/etc. Not all CPUs can OC to the same speed and be stable.
So you factory restore to EG30 then wifi is working and no bootloop? Let it sit like that for 2 days. Then install root using auto root. Again let it sit for 2 days. Then finally start adding your other stuff one by one until wifi and instability gets introduced.
I can guarantee you 100% that rooting using Auto Root is not causing your wifi and bootloop issues. I'm saying this because of analysis of the changes Auto Root makes. It is just adding 3 files, which are mostly DORMANT unless you use them.
Concentrating on root as the cause of your issues is a waste of time. You need to look at the other changes.
Awsome, thanks for the response again. Should I install acs recovery or cwm to do a nandroid backup? I want to make sure I can restore easier than having to redo everything everytime, or is that expected to need to do everytime I "play" with this type of customizing.
sj
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Both are fine. Nandroid should get you back to where you started as long as you aren't doing modem changes.
does that mean as long as I back up stock EK02 2.3.6 before root, or does that mean I should nandroid backup at EG30 2.3.4 before root?
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Assuming you want to end up at EK02, I would make the cwm/nandroid backup immediately after applying the EK02 OTA update on top of EG30, before adding your own items back.
Run it completely stock for a day or two (however long it too in the past for the wifi/bootloop problem to crop up) If it doesn't show up, then start adding your stuff back in a few at a time. Once it shows up, you'll be able to isolate which most recent change caused the issue.
Awesome, thats what I figured, but I just wanted to be sure, I'll chime back in after I start if I run into problems.
Just to clarify, I cannot back up when I have it all set up with my apps/settings to where if I get a bootloop or something I can just restore with apps/settings restored? or is installing apps manually the only way to get the device back to how you like it for day2day usage?
sj
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Awesome, thats what I figured, but I just wanted to be sure, I'll chime back in after I start if I run into problems.
Just to clarify, I cannot back up when I have it all set up with my apps/settings to where if I get a bootloop or something I can just restore with apps/settings restored? or is installing apps manually the only way to get the device back to how you like it for day2day usage?
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You can make multiple backups, one at each stage, and restore to that point. The only thing you can't restore is the modem (you can flash the modem by hand, just not from a nandroid backup), but assuming you can get a stock EK02 which doesn't have any issues, then it doesn't matter as you won't care to go back to EG30, so your nandroid backups of EK02 should serve you fine to figure out what is causing your issue.
right on, thanks sf, moving from webOS to android will be a breeze with all of the great devs and such to ask questions. i was fairly impressed on how the development community for webOS was so open and friendly, i am glad to see that it is the very same way over here too!
sj
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Hi SF, i wanted to clarify my steps before i run through them. So i am currently running stock EK02, unrooted with plenty of apps currently installed. (do i need to be rooted to install cwm and then run nandroid backup?)
I was thinking my process is as follows:
1 - Backup my app list (I've found Ultimate Backup Pro is very nice)
2 - Remove external SD card and flash back to stock (outta the box) EG30/2.3.4
3 - Update to EK02/2.3.6
4 - Remount SD card, install CWM5, run nandroid backup. Is ACS recovery better?
5 - Root, wait 1 day
6 - Install SuperUser & BusyBox
7 - Start restoring apps a few at a time
? Does it help to reboot after each install for any reason. Also, are apps that require root access the usual reason that cause the wifi/bootloop issues, or can any app free or paid cause the same problems?
Again, i totally appreciate the info you have explained already! oh, btw, Merry Christmas!
see ya
sj
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1 - Backup my app list (I've found Ultimate Backup Pro is very nice)
2 - Remove external SD card and flash back to stock (outta the box) EG30/2.3.4
3 - Update to EK02/2.3.6
4 - Remount SD card, install CWM5, run nandroid backup. Is ACS recovery better?
5 - Root, wait 1 day
6 - Install SuperUser & BusyBox
7 - Start restoring apps a few at a time
? Does it help to reboot after each install for any reason. Also, are apps that require root access the usual reason that cause the wifi/bootloop issues, or can any app free or paid cause the same problems?
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Here is what I would suggest
1 - Backup my app list (I've found Ultimate Backup Pro is very nice)
2 - Remove external SD card
3 - ODIN Flash EK02 Factory Restore
4 - Remount SD card
5 - Use Auto Root package - Choose Option A to Root (ie install su, busybox)
6 - Use Auto Root package - Choose Option C, then EK02+CWM
7 - Boot into CWM recovery, make nandroid backup
8 - Run it stock for .5-1 day to make sure everything works
9 - Restore a few apps at a time (making note of what you restored), reboot and run for a little while to verify wifi works and it doesn't get stuck on boot
10 - run like that for a little bit, then repeat 9&10 until all apps restored or culprit found
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Running stock 2.3.6, T-Mobile, T989. Rooted via ODIN, CWM installed. Wasn't paying any damn attention and flashed a battery theme. Now my status bar FCs at startup.
Is there any way to recover from this, or would I be better off unrooting/returning to full stock and then rerooting, reinstalling, etc?
There may be a better answer, but I would just flash a new rom. There's so keep roms available if that's what you want
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well, if you made one do a nandroid backup. should work if im not mistaking
Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong
Now, see, if I'd been thinking I'd've made a Nandroid before flashing. You know, like mentally stable people do. Unfortunately, thinking wasn't on the menu.
I flashed Zedomax's 2.3.5 and will do an ODIN -> Stock 2.3.6 -> root again once I touch my Windows PC again tonight.
Learn from my failure! Nandroid now, nandroid tomorrow, nandroid forever.
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Now, see, if I'd been thinking I'd've made a Nandroid before flashing. You know, like mentally stable people do. Unfortunately, thinking wasn't on the menu.
I flashed Zedomax's 2.3.5 and will do an ODIN -> Stock 2.3.6 -> root again once I touch my Windows PC again tonight.
Learn from my failure! Nandroid now, nandroid tomorrow, nandroid forever.
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What???
You don't have to root again once rooted already.
Just flash a stock rom from the T989 dev section. Do a nandroid backup.
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You can just flash a theme that's made for your ROM... I had this happen to me when I was trying to make my own theme and had bootloops with everything force closing in me so I instead just flashed a working theme to fix it.
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What I ended up doing was using ODIN to return to completely stock, then rerooting and removing CIQ by hand. I'm at the point where I'm not interested in flashing anything save the eventual CM9.
Hey guys, maybe someone can help me out.
I have flashed the Black Bean ROM for Samsung Epic 4G Touch.
Thats not a problem. The issue is, the Black Bean Rom along eith Dark Angel Rises and Hooligan (not positive on these but there were a few)
that do not come with a custom recovery. I went to make a Nandroid of the Rom and I get the standard android recovery.
Cant make a backup with that.
So I ended up flashing a safe recovery EL26 to access CWM but it does not allow me to access the rom again.
I have to format all 2x and reflash the rom. But then you would be back at square one.
My main question is what file can I flash to get a custom recovery on these roms and be able to make a backup and then
still access the rom without the phone freezing at the boot screen? If this doesnt make sence, I can elaborate more.
Thanks for your time and help!
You need the original kernel in a zip form. Ask the dev. Pretty sure it's sniper if I remember right. That way you just flash the kernel after the nandroid.
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Which Black Bean are you installing, the one by timmetal6669 or the one by sniper? They are very different roms. If you are using the one by timmetal6669 you need to flash the FK23 recovery kernel by agat. If you are using the one by sniper you need to download the rom again because it has a recovery kernel built in.
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The one by timmetal6669. Gotcha. I was kinda confused by the first guys post. Thanks for clearing it up.
I found the links for the FK23 Agat Kernal. I will try it.
You are welcome. It should work right now.
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