I saw a review of ETEN M600 in a (italian) magazine: there was a photo showing the wm5-integrated voice command...the problem is: why does my qtek 9000 only have voice speed dial (to call contacts or launch apps) and the lower-class m600 has a full featured program, that can also - as clearly shown in the photo that struck me - read sms (!!), call telephone numbers even if not stored in the contacts database, and many many more interesting actions??
is there a way to extract it and use it on Universal?? I'd really like to have sms read to me (useful while driving), and the radio/bt/wifi turned on and off without having to open it, turn it on and click click click... it takes no more than 10 seconds but sometimes it's annoying!!
any hints about that?? any suggestion??
Isn't this just Voice Command? Why not just install Voice Command to allow you to execute commands like radio on/off etc?
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MS voice command 1.5 you mean?? but as far as I remember (It's been a long time since I last used it on my old PDA) it can't read sms or so....
It can if you know how :wink:
However, out of the box I don't know if it can.
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I don't understand...you mean that there's a way to have it reading out loud all my text messages?? oh man that would be great!! are you talking seriously or is it just a technical fantasy?? tell me I'm so curious!!!
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It can if you know how :wink:
However, out of the box I don't know if it can.
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Hmm! ;-)
Vijay555, do you mean there's a way to discover some more hidden capabilities in Microsoft Voice Command 1.5 UK?
I really would love to have some more functions in this. Don't see any upgrades coming at moment.
I don't know about hidden capabilities in Voice Command itself.
But there are other ways to make the Phone speak and there are a couple of competing speech engines out there.
I'm currently working on a speech program, VJLoquitur, using Flite and some other stuff.
Anyone going to the Modaco meeting this Saturday? I'll be showing it off there, hopefully.
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I installed microsoft voice command 1.6 for smartphone on my t-mobile dash and now my "add voice tag" option is missing. The only option I have there is add speed dial. There were 2 options before the install but now its gone. Any one knows of a fix? Thanks!
What do you need voice tags when you use Microsoft Voice Command?
That doesn't make any sense and so the option is removed.
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What do you need voice tags when you use Microsoft Voice Command?
That doesn't make any sense and so the option is removed.
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Voice command can be a memory hog, and doesn't work as well with some headsets. Is the old voice tag option something that can be extracted from WM5? (Along with the ability to use them over headsets?)
Nickname field in Outlook
"I thought you had to call people by how you listed them in outlook since it couldn't be trained to a voice tag. Have no fear. Just use the nickname field of Outlook. Now you can just say "Call Mom" " - quoted from the Microsoft Voice Commander 1.6 product page.
Yes, it's that simple.
What happened is I installed voice command 1.6 did not like it and un-installed it and now my add voice tag feature is not there. Is it possible to get this back?
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What do you need voice tags when you use Microsoft Voice Command?
That doesn't make any sense and so the option is removed.
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googled plentyno info on how to get voice tag back on dash phone after un-installing voice command 1.6. But since you seem to know so much what is the solution to adding the voice tag feature back.
Soooo i JUST found out that the google search can be used to make calls when my sister tried to google something and it started calling a friend.
what other cool commands are there that the phone will act on?
for completion sake the command was
"Call <name>"
if you have multiple names or names that are similar, such as christine, christina, kristen (i just said call chris) it will bring them up as options which is pretty nifty.
The options are limited right now. I know Froyo will greatly expand on this. Allowing you to do a lot more than just call. I am assuming compose text messages and much more.
Here is what I use:
"Call <Persons name>"
"Navigate to <location, address, name or zip>"
Those are the only 2 commands I know of. Everything else will result in a search. You can get apps that will allow you to compose SMS or emails to hold you over till Froyo.
If you are using the voice dialer app you can use "Open (app name". For instance in the car I use "Open Pandora".
I don't think it works with the search button, but if you use the voice dialer it does.
First a disclaimer: I have searched for this quite a bit, but with software updates happening so quickly, and so many different roms out there its hard to find a conclusive answer, and different people have different needs, and with my searching at least, I have not found the answer to my specific question.
So I'm new to the Android thing, coming off a Blackberry 9700. I'm trying to figure out this whol voice dialing thing, and the only conclusion I can come to, is they based this on 1980's voice dialing software. I should mention Its rooted running CM6.
So here's the problem. I want to just push the button on my BT headset like I would with my Previous BB, HTC touch or even Samsung a920 an say "call bob". If the message was not heard, or if there is more than one Bob, I want it to say something along the lines of either "say again" or "did you mean "bob smith" or "call bob mobile or office" at which point it waits for my response and then dials.
What happens is I say "call bob". If it doesn't understand it just gives an error at which point I have to hit cancel on the phone, push the BT button once to close the connection, then again to try again. If at that point it registers, it then gives me a list of close matches with which I have to choose the correct option on the phone. What else I don't want it to do (Which it is doing quite a bit) is just randomly start to dial a string of 10 digit numbers that sound nothing like "Bob".
I can't imagine that with all of Android's/Froyo's advancements on the smartphone front that they would neglect something so important. Especially with all the new hands free laws coming into effect.
So to make a long story short, does the HTC desire/Android/Froyo/CM6 have true totally handsfree dialing? In other words can I dial a contact from my bluetooth headset without ever having to touch my phone? What am I missing here?
I know there is probably an app for that.
But I mean speed dial. I want to open the phone app (which, in my scenario, defaults to the keypad), and long-press a number to quick-dial someone.
My boss can go from "we need to call x", to actually dialing on his blackberry in about 1.5 seconds.
I have to unlock, wait for the screen to actually respond (since it freezes for that half second after unlocking), hit the people tile, hit the "work" group, find the contact, tap it. Then tap "call".
I could pin that group to the main page, yes. But that's beside the point.
My old windows mobile device had 99 spots for speed dial numbers. Please Microsoft. Just let us speed dial.
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While I'm on this, there should be a more business-friendly setup available. In my "work" group, I don't care "what's new" or what pictures they've uploaded to facebook.
You can also voice command "call xxx" via lock screen (if enabled) or even bluetooth without touching the phone (on windows phone).
I used a blackberry for years, and as phones they are amazing. I have yet to see any touchscreen phone than is as quick for things such as calling (without voice) as a BB. Its very efficient at that. Dedicated call/end buttons are always nice as well.
But yes, we do need smart dialing. Vote for it here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...s/suggestions/2281390-smart-dailing?ref=title
There are indeed plenty of apps for that
Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Which application can be natively put into the default phone dialer to speed dial with long press the number?
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Not possible as of yet.
The best dialer I've found on the Marketplace so far is 7Dialer. It doesn't quite have a speed dial function, but you can pin contacts to the dialer, making calls and texts just a swipe and a tap away. Very quick. And it looks very nice (conforms to Metro and the native dialer). Also has the smart dial/search functionality so you can hit some numbers to narrow people for fast searching.
But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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But why is MS overlooking what would seem to be such a basic feature as speed dialing? Old home phones from the 90s can do this.
Admitted I do not use speed dialing but I am sure some other people do.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Microsoft has not overlooked Speed Dialing, Windows Phone simply does it in a different way using a pinned tile. Pin a live tile, tap it and tap a number. It serves the same purpose and it follows Microsoft people-first/Metro UI methodology.
Everyone is so used to things working one way, that they can't get used to or are unwilling to get used to doing things a different way. All part of Microsoft's uphill battle. Using new design paradigms and being different requires people to change, and sometimes people just don't want to, which is totally understandable. The way things work on Windows Phone may not be for everyone, but there are advantages if you take the time to learn and use the functions of the phone the way they were intended.
This is not just a Microsoft thing, this is just the way that things work when you introduce change.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
TIP - Pin a User Group for quick access.
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Yeah, pinning the contact is the metro style speed dial.
Another thing I see people constantly complaining about is not having a smart dialer with the keypad, but I just type out the name in the "call log" and it pops up, same concept, and if it isn't there, you hit "search contacts, and bam...
I honestly rarely used speed dial, so I may be biased here. I tried to a few times, hated it, I like this way more.
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Creating a group and pinning it is probably a better option though. Once the group is pinned, you tap the group, and see just those in the group. Then tap the contact from the group. Then select the number.
That way you don't need to add a tile for every speed dial contact.
It's 1 more tap than the old speed dial. Press phone. Press number. Press talk. Or was it press and hold number. Or was it press first digit and press and hold next digit. I think depending on the phone, it was all of these in the past.
This. Tap group. Tap Contact. Tap communication method.
With speed dial you needed to memorize what number you saved them under. This lets you know with out memorizing a number who you are going to call and how.
I wouldn't be surprised if they add smart dialing in the future. Maybe with Apollo. It is one of those efficient, productivity issues that should be a given with any smartphone imo.
I shall be surprised Microsoft will implement press and hold number digit to speed dial a phone number for WP. Microsoft think in a different way to dial most-used phone number in such a way to pin that contact as the live tile. There is no application around currently work as previous smart phone saying Anna or Belle. Apple also did not implement such kind of speed dial but a favourite in a tab of the iphone native phone dialer. I am used to the press and hold number speed dial despite I have to memorize which phone contact is set of which number digit.
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The problem, though, is that the "metro way" is no more efficient than an "old-fashioned" speed dialer. Plus, it further crowds and already overcrowded start screen. If someone were to follow every suggestion in this forum for how to just pin a live tile every time they wanted to do something, they would soon have hundreds of tiles cluttering the start screen.
It seems to me that Microsoft is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Change for its own sake doesn't necessarily make things better.
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Most of the time, its purely personal preference. And very rarely these days do I see people using "old fashioned speed dial" as it used to be pre-smartphone. Our smartphones are much smarter than having to hold down a single physical button to call someone (and thus, more complicated).
You throw the same concept onto a smartphone and you don't get the same result. You press the power button, swipe/pinch/tap/slide/triple-tap/whatever/dance/smile/sing/talk to make the lockscreen go away, tap the phone/dialer application, bring up the dial pad if its not automatically displayed, and THEN finally hold down a single digital digit to make it dial someone. This is not speed dial. The problem doesn't exist because speed dial the way we know it does not exist on a smartphone. You've got some shortcuts and apps and methods to make dialing easier, but there is no real speed dial on a smartphone.
Every phone has a different way of doing it, if it even has such functionality to begin with.
I didn't say that the "metro way" was more or less efficient than any other speed dial method on a smartphone, but it does follow Microsoft's whole people-first/social methodology instead of trying to emulate the function of a hardware button that simply does not work the same way on a smartphone. Microsoft didn't just copy everyone and throw the speed dial thing in there for the sake of it. Neither was the change/push to make your favorite things a pinned live tile(s) a change for its own sake. It has a purpose, and as a people-centric/social platform, that purpose is to bring your phone to life. Your contact is more than just a number you hold down and press. And yes, everyone may not like it, but to really appreciate this platform is to understand why Microsoft made certain things work the way they do and why Microsoft said hey, "If we really want people to buy into this whole live tile thing, we've gotta push it hard and show people that there are different ways to send and get information, and yes, even a different way of making a phone call." That they probably left a lot of old, tired and standard ideas on the chopping block because they believe in their platform and in how they designed their software, and that just adding speed dial to make that small percentage of people who still use it happy shows neither faith in what they originally set out to do nor faith in their ideas and concepts.
Certainly not change for the sake of it. Its because Windows Phone 7's sole purpose was change. This has been their whole spiel all along - to be different. And certainly some people won't like it, and that's fine, maybe Windows Phone 7 isn't for you. But if you can take a step back and look at some of things that Microsoft has done with the platform, to surface information and to bring things to life, I'm sure most people will clearly see that the method that they have chosen for their own platform exemplifies and brings out the best qualities and features of the platform, and fits perfectly into putting people first. That there is more than just one way to speed dial a contact yet still get more out of it than just a phone call at the same time.
Take some time and embrace how Windows Phone thinks you can do and accomplish things, and if you don't like it, then hey, Android and iOS are still out there. No harm done.
Also, there are only so many digits you can assign speed dial to, so unless you really just like everything, then you probably won't run into an issue of having too many tiles on your Start screen. The same issue presents itself on any other platform as well. You can have 100s of app icons on iOS, or 100s of widgets on your 100 Android home screens. Take your pick.
I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
TIP on dialing from history
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I wish they just let me type in the dialer and scan for both the phone number and the name (t9). And the phone number search should skip country code and other prefixed code (unlike the mango api which searches for a number with an exact match ) eg if I want to find 061234 it should also return 003161234 and +3161234 and vice versa.
This alone would kill all the need for a quick/smart dialer. I am aware of typing in the call log, yet you still have to click the name and than tap on the phone number.
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Actually, from history, if instead of tapping the name, you tap the phone icon to the left of the name, it will immediately dial the number last used for that contact.
Not exactly what you are asking for but if you press a number followed by a # in the dialer, it will show you the contact phone associated with it and the option to call it. The hard thing would be to find which is the number associated with the phone number of your interest.
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