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I have been banned....Sorry Moderators

Hello Everyone
i did not know that you do not post warez in this forum....so please excuse me....anyway warez are all over the net....keep the good working with M$ windows only.....sorry again
cheers

Astra I left your post up for over a day with a warning that if you don't follow rules and amend the post you will be banned. You didn't, and so I banned you.
It makes banning a mockery now that you have rejoined, but by virtue of your baptism by fire I hope that you will be a good boy now. Look, we're all grown ups, we all know how to get warez. But it's not in your interest or ours to distribute warez in a very public manner. Microsoft and other copyright holders can and are exercising their legitimate control of materials illegally distributed through this site.
Sorry for being a hard ass.
V

hey vijay ... i just wanted to know one stuff... how legal is it to copy win mobile from one device and then alter it to our desires and then uploading it for all.... trust me i didnt want to be harsh.... just wantd to know that if posting a warez link is prohibited i am sure that microsoft does not approve of this too.... for that matter we are all eagerly awaiting for crossbow for our device but i am sure microsoft does not approve that..... so why are you so soft hearted for these crimes....
no offence even i am using helmi's 3.5 and i know that its an excellent rom but i am sure that its not a legal one..... so what do you say about it.. if you are so against piracy then you should be againt it in any form... isnt it
just a thought
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kingdomraj said:
hey vijay ... i just wanted to know one stuff... how legal is it to copy win mobile from one device and then alter it to our desires and then uploading it for all.... trust me i didnt want to be harsh.... just wantd to know that if posting a warez link is prohibited i am sure that microsoft does not approve of this too.... for that matter we are all eagerly awaiting for crossbow for our device but i am sure microsoft does not approve that..... so why are you so soft hearted for these crimes....
no offence even i am using helmi's 3.5 and i know that its an excellent rom but i am sure that its not a legal one..... so what do you say about it.. if you are so against piracy then you should be againt it in any form... isnt it
just a thought
do comment
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Well, for example, don't post warez discussion forum links (see your today's post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286918 )

Raj, you're asking the wrong guy. You can see that I don't say this is MY policy of warez. You can see specifically that I'm realistic in that we all know how to get warez... read my other posts on the subject. I'm not in a position to condone warez, but I've expressly stated (see the TomTom thread) that I will personally guide those that want warez, but will not allow it on the board.
I am a coder in my spare time, and make no money from it, but there are many enthusiastic coders who's software you are no doubt using, who would lose out if we pirate their warez. Have a heart or spare a thought. I'm not going to preach - each man controls his own destiny.
But this is a public forum, and a useful resource to us all. If you start talking about killing all Jews or how incest is best kept in the family, then I'd have the same attitude: do what you like in your house, but this is a public resource, and a helpful one, that deserves being protected by all those that benefit from it.
Regarding Roms:
This is still an entirely open question. The way I look at this is that HTC/our operator provides us with a rom on our device. They grant us a license to use the Rom, like most EULAs. And theoretically their intellectual property is vested and static within the rom itself.
However, the rom update files are distributed freely on the web. Our work in dissecting roms and make a “best of compilation” is hopefully fair use, we are generally only re-using intellectual property that is effectively licensed to us by our operator. So our best of roms merely maximise use of those materials and from there our use of the phones. I know I wouldn’t be using my phones if they weren’t maxed out with my own mods, and likewise, I can be sure that my next phone will be Windows Mobile, and almost certainly HTC, as a result of this community. I hope that HTC and Microsoft acknowledge that themselves – communities build device support and vice versa. Look at Modaco.
The problems arise with intellectual property not by those copyright holders. Palm asked us to remove Palm Messaging, and rightly so, they had every right to do so. As did Picsel with the Picsel Browser. We will comply with EVERY request to remove copyrighted material. If you can’t find anyone to do so, write to me. For legal reasons precise compliance with such a request will depend on the jurisdiction in which the copyright holder resides and the location of the XDA Devs server/host.
But I hope I speak for all the mods in saying that we are over zealous in our efforts to keep this board running, and we’d do that without warez and even questionable roms if required. But it has to be said, the board has been up for a while, and we hope that we have helped other users, not screwed the copyright holders.
Regarding Crossbow – anyone distributing it should be aware of the risk they put themselves and their source in. The mods have discussed this, and as with all intellectual challenge, will embrace its support and extend its execution. But we don’t want to get involved in hosting it right now. Rapidshare links are questionable enough, but down to the user himself.
Raj, we don't profess to be perfect. But we hope the forum provides a useful resource. I advise all users to keep it alive, and be sensible.
V

OK guys....let's close this disscusion and keep going in our good work.....thankx everybody.....sorry again

vijay555 said:
Astra I left your post up for over a day with a warning that if you don't follow rules and amend the post you will be banned. You didn't, and so I banned you.
It makes banning a mockery now that you have rejoined, but by virtue of your baptism by fire I hope that you will be a good boy now. Look, we're all grown ups, we all know how to get warez. But it's not in your interest or ours to distribute warez in a very public manner. Microsoft and other copyright holders can and are exercising their legitimate control of materials illegally distributed through this site.
Sorry for being a hard ass.
V
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vijay555 i just come here every few days when i want to follow up the good work done here for the firmwares....but i spend most of the time at the other sites that provide us with the latest warez....thnkx

Astra, seriously, no problem. It's just that you came on the board as a noob with a couple of posts asking for warez... like I said, I left a warning but we have to be fairly strict. It'll be very easy for the board to go downhill very quickly... but thanks for being gracious. No hard feelings.
V

I have to agree with vijay555 to keep the warez out of this forum.
This forum is very informative; it helps many to experience information which is in fact impossible to get anywhere else. Only because of this forum I have receive support for my Devices which I couldn’t get anywhere else.
A old Chinese saying: you don’t shxt in your leaving room!
So better to keep the leaving room clean and use the bath-room for those others :0)

vijay555 said:
Raj, you're asking the wrong guy. You can see that I don't say this is MY policy of warez. You can see specifically that I'm realistic in that we all know how to get warez... read my other posts on the subject. I'm not in a position to condone warez, but I've expressly stated (see the TomTom thread) that I will personally guide those that want warez, but will not allow it on the board.
I am a coder in my spare time, and make no money from it, but there are many enthusiastic coders who's software you are no doubt using, who would lose out if we pirate their warez. Have a heart or spare a thought. I'm not going to preach - each man controls his own destiny.
But this is a public forum, and a useful resource to us all. If you start talking about killing all Jews or how incest is best kept in the family, then I'd have the same attitude: do what you like in your house, but this is a public resource, and a helpful one, that deserves being protected by all those that benefit from it.
Regarding Roms:
This is still an entirely open question. The way I look at this is that HTC/our operator provides us with a rom on our device. They grant us a license to use the Rom, like most EULAs. And theoretically their intellectual property is vested and static within the rom itself.
However, the rom update files are distributed freely on the web. Our work in dissecting roms and make a “best of compilation” is hopefully fair use, we are generally only re-using intellectual property that is effectively licensed to us by our operator. So our best of roms merely maximise use of those materials and from there our use of the phones. I know I wouldn’t be using my phones if they weren’t maxed out with my own mods, and likewise, I can be sure that my next phone will be Windows Mobile, and almost certainly HTC, as a result of this community. I hope that HTC and Microsoft acknowledge that themselves – communities build device support and vice versa. Look at Modaco.
The problems arise with intellectual property not by those copyright holders. Palm asked us to remove Palm Messaging, and rightly so, they had every right to do so. As did Picsel with the Picsel Browser. We will comply with EVERY request to remove copyrighted material. If you can’t find anyone to do so, write to me. For legal reasons precise compliance with such a request will depend on the jurisdiction in which the copyright holder resides and the location of the XDA Devs server/host.
But I hope I speak for all the mods in saying that we are over zealous in our efforts to keep this board running, and we’d do that without warez and even questionable roms if required. But it has to be said, the board has been up for a while, and we hope that we have helped other users, not screwed the copyright holders.
Regarding Crossbow – anyone distributing it should be aware of the risk they put themselves and their source in. The mods have discussed this, and as with all intellectual challenge, will embrace its support and extend its execution. But we don’t want to get involved in hosting it right now. Rapidshare links are questionable enough, but down to the user himself.
Raj, we don't profess to be perfect. But we hope the forum provides a useful resource. I advise all users to keep it alive, and be sensible.
V
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thanks a lot... it was all very informative and trust me i did not think that you will take all the pain to explain me these things in such an elaborate manner....it was very considerate of you
realy i mean it...
thanx man

BTW, while cooked ROM's are indeed a "not-entirely-white" area, if you consider piracy as "something that does financial damage to the developer", then, cooked ROM's shouldn't be considered in so a strict way as traditional warez. (Actually, cooked, advanced ROMs even raise the value of a given Pocket PC model, generating more sales.)

Menneisyys said:
BTW, while cooked ROM's are indeed a "not-entirely-white" area, if you consider piracy as "something that does financial damage to the developer", then, cooked ROM's shouldn't be considered in so a strict way as traditional warez. (Actually, cooked, advanced ROMs even raise the value of a given Pocket PC model, generating more sales.)
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yeah i do agree to it now

Is your rom GPL compliant?

Just browsing on the hp touchpad development forum and noticed a sticky that I think everyone needs to read including the devs.
krook6023 said
As XDA has no legal power to uphold the GPL (and frankly we want to stay as far away from doing so as possible), we can’t force any of our users to abide by the GPL. However it is in XDA’s interests as well as the interests of our developer-base to ensure all GPL-derived materials hosted or linked on XDA comply fully with the GPL.
GPL-derived materials that do not come with the complete sources used to compile the GPL components are considered warez, and will be treated as such under forum rule 6 and 9.
If you use GPL components, but do not make any modifications to them whatsoever, you should provide a link to the original source of your GPL code.
Sources accompanying a release should be complete, and contain all the necessary source code for any modules, scripts or definition files. Complete sources will be defined as those which compile correctly and completely against the platform for which the software is distributed, and which contain any and all modifications made to the released General Public Licenced code. The source code supplied should be the exact version for which the source code is being requested, complete with all modifications.
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read more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1431725

ourtut said:
Just browsing on the hp touchpad development forum and noticed a sticky that I think everyone needs to read including the devs.
krook6023 said
read more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1431725
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look up^^^ in sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360413
specifically post 3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21143260&postcount=3

ROMs (without custom kernels) are Apache licensed.
Google Apps are not allowed to be distributed with roms under any public license.
Kernel is GPL.
Kernel is the only thing you MUST provide source for. Google apps can be linked via a zip file, but not included in the rom. You have a right to backup prior Google Apps from your own personal device. That in itself is a grey area. Technically you cannot even provide the zip for distribution.

I am a Chinese Developer about MIUI9

Hell foreign friends,
I am the original author of Nubia Z17's MIUI9.
I found someone stealing my ROM ,MIUI9.I was very angry.
Please stop your infringement!!!

曦颜XY said:
Hell foreign friends,
I am the original author of Nubia Z17's MIUI9.
I found someone stealing my ROM ,MIUI9.I was very angry.
Please stop your infringement!!!
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I'm not quite sure stealing is the right word for it. He has ported it for international use. Furthermore he has quoted your work in his initial post. Maybe you two could figure something out and work together, since everybody likes your miui 9 port so much. It would be a shame to have miui 9 not ready for international use.

曦颜XY said:
Hell foreign friends,
I am the original author of Nubia Z17's MIUI9.
I found someone stealing my ROM ,MIUI9.I was very angry.
Please stop your infringement!!!
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You need to read the Forum Rules. XDA is about sharing open source projects...
Rule 12:
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XDA-Developers is based on the principle of sharing to transmit knowledge. This is the cornerstone of our site. Our members and developers freely share their experience, knowledge, and finished works with the rest of the community to promote growth within the developer community, and to encourage those still learning to become better. There are those, however, who take advantage of this model and try to make personal gains from the hard work of others.
In order to preserve the delicate balance between sharing for the good of the community and blatant self-promotion, regular members and developers alike must understand (and agree) to the following:
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Question OnePlus continuing to alienate the entire developer community

OnePlus's broken promises are leaving developers angry and enthusiasts upset
It's violating the GPL, silently killed its developer device seeding program, and broke arguably every promise made at its 2019 Open Ears Forum
www.androidpolice.com
This, especially should see their phones blocked until they follow the rules correctly:
Android runs on Linux, in case you didn't know, which means every Android device runs the Linux kernel. In most cases, this requires customizing the kernel slightly to work on different hardware, and anyone that does that is required to honor the Linux kernel's GNU General Public License agreement, or GPL. Among other things, it requires that the "source" for the kernel — the code required to build it as written out before its compiled in a way a computer can use — be made available for other developers to see, use, and base their own further modifications on top of.
While there's no hard requirement I can tell regarding the required timeliness of kernel source releases, OnePlus is at least breaking the spirit of the GPL by being so late, and it's definitely breaking it when the source is unavailable or missing parts that are required for it to work. At its Open Ears Forum in 2019, OnePlus promised the "on-time" release of kernel sources for all builds, including Open Betas — more on that later.
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djsubterrain said:
OnePlus's broken promises are leaving developers angry and enthusiasts upset
It's violating the GPL, silently killed its developer device seeding program, and broke arguably every promise made at its 2019 Open Ears Forum
www.androidpolice.com
This, especially should see their phones blocked until they follow the rules correctly:
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Its not maybe GPL violation, its IS GPL violation! Thanks OPPO

I'm hardly surprised. OnePlus abandoned a lot of their promises when they did the merger, and I don't really expect them to deliver on them now.
I guess that means a Pixel is the only option until Google too decides to kill customization. They're already hardening Safetynet which looks like they're getting ready to kill off development.

Development ***CLOSED*** [RECOVERY] PitchBlack Recovery A52s 5G

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Projects that fail to provide proper credit where due will be removed.
See the Forum Rules:
12. Sharing
XDA-Developers is based on the principle of sharing to transmit knowledge. This is the cornerstone of our site. Our members and developers freely share their experience, knowledge, and finished works with the rest of the community to promote growth within the developer community, and to encourage those still learning to become better. There are those, however, who take advantage of this model and try to make personal gains from the hard work of others.
In order to preserve the delicate balance between sharing for the good of the community and blatant self-promotion, regular members and developers alike must understand (and agree) to the following:
12.1. Give credits where due - Credits and acknowledgements for using and releasing work which is based on someone else's work are an absolute must. Works reported to have no credits will be taken down until proper acknowledgements are added by the member in question;
12.2. Courtesy - While most of the work released on our site falls under the umbrella of open source, that is not the only license model being used by developers on xda-developers. In order to prevent problems, we ask that if you decide to base your work on someone else's that you check the license model being used (as it might not be as permissive as one may think);
12.3. Re-releasing other's works as your own is forbidden. The code that you release into the wild must have something beyond minor aesthetic changes that makes it better than the last. As this can be subjective, kang reports will be reviewed on a case by case basis. If you feel that your code has been kanged, please contact the Developer Relations Team (DRT) if you cannot solve the issue amicably via PM. Please understand that you will be asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claim;
12.4. Developers can issue take down requests (by contacting the Dev Relations team) under the following circumstances:
- in-process builds start showing up on forums when the developer is not yet ready to release the work;
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- unofficial builds where an official build is already available;
In summary, we want people to have access to work and knowledge alike. Sharing is good and courtesy and ethics go a long way.
Developers with questions, comments, complaints, or concerns about our rules (or anything!) should send a PM to our Dev Relations team or a Moderator (see here). We are here to help!
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Good job, please add proper credits in OP (you're clearly using mine/@Ryzen5950XT TWRP/OFOX device tree as base) and a link to your device tree source code.

BlackMesa123 said:
Good job, please add proper credits in OP (you're clearly using mine/@Ryzen5950XT TWRP/OFOX device tree as base) and a link to your device tree source code.
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Sry I'm tryna fix da flashlight n gonna upload it 2 da tree later wit my own branch. Gonna give creds but for now plz hlp me out. Thx!

Hello @ArixCute
Please be aware that if you used anyone else's code to build this project, you must provide all due credit per the Forum Rules:
12. Sharing
XDA-Developers is based on the principle of sharing to transmit knowledge. This is the cornerstone of our site. Our members and developers freely share their experience, knowledge, and finished works with the rest of the community to promote growth within the developer community, and to encourage those still learning to become better. There are those, however, who take advantage of this model and try to make personal gains from the hard work of others.
In order to preserve the delicate balance between sharing for the good of the community and blatant self-promotion, regular members and developers alike must understand (and agree) to the following:
12.1. Give credits where due - Credits and acknowledgements for using and releasing work which is based on someone else's work are an absolute must. Works reported to have no credits will be taken down until proper acknowledgements are added by the member in question;
12.2. Courtesy - While most of the work released on our site falls under the umbrella of open source, that is not the only license model being used by developers on xda-developers. In order to prevent problems, we ask that if you decide to base your work on someone else's that you check the license model being used (as it might not be as permissive as one may think);
12.3. Re-releasing other's works as your own is forbidden. The code that you release into the wild must have something beyond minor aesthetic changes that makes it better than the last. As this can be subjective, kang reports will be reviewed on a case by case basis. If you feel that your code has been kanged, please contact the Developer Relations Team (DRT) if you cannot solve the issue amicably via PM. Please understand that you will be asked to provide evidence to substantiate your claim;
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If we establish that you have kanged someone else's work without giving credit, we may at our discretion remove your projects from XDA.

@ArixCute
As you have failed to provide proper credit to @BlackMesa123 for the source, this thread has been closed, and the download links have been removed.
See PM.