first of all sorry if my post in wrong place.
Please help me out with this situation.
I used to have HTC touch pro2, and as you might know that you can find hundred of ROMS and apps like pim backup, SPB shell, garmin, etc. I just bought HTC HD7, its really smooth no lagging no craking, very responsive it never freeze or stuck as HTC TOUCH PRO2 OR HD2, but i didnt find any rom or any apps for hd7, i used to have such as SMSSPAM, POWERSMS,etc.
So i was wondering should i go for Samsung vibrant? how is that? is that responsive? smooth? I believe that android have more apps than htc hd7 i didn't find any good free apps, every single game is for $6-7, that sucks. I have my one year old sms i always make backup of that with pim backup, but in this HTC HD7 i cant transfer my those sms.
What you guys think? which one is better
at this point its not about what is better, but what is a better fit for you. android is more mature than wp7 so therefore it has a big headstart in apps. It is more customizable but also has its quirks. If you get the vibrant you will have to root it and install the one click lag fix otherwise it lags big time. After installing that it seems to be a pretty good phone if you like android.
the HD7 I think is a smoother product, but the apps are going to take some time. For me, the only real app I am missing is a call block/ filter program.
I like windows cellphone just because it doesn't have ristrictions, you can install any apps, change any rom, transfer files via bluetooth. But i was unable to transfer files via bluetooth in HD7, and what type of files it support? .Cab???
mhassanz said:
I like windows cellphone just because it doesn't have ristrictions, you can install any apps, change any rom, transfer files via bluetooth. But i was unable to transfer files via bluetooth in HD7, and what type of files it support? .Cab???
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nope, can only load apps through the marketplace for now.Trying to reduce piracy.
My coworker has a vibrant. He fell in love with my hd7 his contract expire at the end of the month and you already know what phone he's going to get. My best friend just switched from sprint to mobile just for the hd7 and he had a evo
nrfitchett4 said:
at this point its not about what is better, but what is a better fit for you. android is more mature than wp7 so therefore it has a big headstart in apps. It is more customizable but also has its quirks. If you get the vibrant you will have to root it and install the one click lag fix otherwise it lags big time. After installing that it seems to be a pretty good phone if you like android.
the HD7 I think is a smoother product, but the apps are going to take some time. For me, the only real app I am missing is a call block/ filter program.
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This. Just to add on the lagfix, I am running with no lagfix installed, and it is smooth, but I am also running the custom 2.2 ROM.
Well, it's all comes down to the personal choice and preferences.
For the love of god don't get android!!! I've had many droid phones....they all suk!!! The os is slow and clunky!!! Don't do it. Plus the vibrant is garbage!!
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Sherwood1 said:
For the love of god don't get android!!! I've had many droid phones....they all suk!!! The os is slow and clunky!!! Don't do it. Plus the vibrant is garbage!!
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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Sorry you feel this way, but judging by the sig you have a VZW's Fascinate, where it is a pretty much the same phone as the Vibrant but with a few differences, the XDA development support between Fascinate and Vibrant is night and day.
To the OP - unless you are not planning to root your phone to make it run the way you want it Vibrant might not be what you want out of the box.
lqaddict said:
This. Just to add on the lagfix, I am running with no lagfix installed, and it is smooth, but I am also running the custom 2.2 ROM.
Well, it's all comes down to the personal choice and preferences.
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that's not a fair comparison. I'm betting your custom ROM has the lag fix implented already.
I was really suprised after reading the reviews on the samsung galaxy s and android in general that the phone did that.
T-mobile customer rep was actually the one that told me about the fix that I then passed on to my friend. I thought winmo had some lag, but that thing would freeze up for 15-30 seconds while just scrolling. Since the fix he says its not had one lag.
nrfitchett4 said:
that's not a fair comparison. I'm betting your custom ROM has the lag fix implented already.
I was really suprised after reading the reviews on the samsung galaxy s and android in general that the phone did that.
T-mobile customer rep was actually the one that told me about the fix that I then passed on to my friend. I thought winmo had some lag, but that thing would freeze up for 15-30 seconds while just scrolling. Since the fix he says its not had one lag.
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No, no lag fix installed, all data is RFS which I am not happy about, waiting for a stable z4mod to convert it to EXT4.
I am running Axura ROM on stock leaked JK2 Froyo build.
I am not denying that there are laggy devices out of the box, mine was suffering from stuttering when I received it, once I fond this board it was like heaven.
Code:
$ date
Sun Nov 21 21:07:22 EST 2010
$ mount
rootfs / rootfs ro,relatime 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,relatime,mode=600 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,relatime 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0
none /acct cgroup rw,relatime,cpuacct 0 0
/dev/block/stl6 /mnt/.lfs j4fs rw,relatime 0 0
tmpfs /mnt/asec tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755,gid=1000 0 0
none /dev/cpuctl cgroup rw,relatime,cpu 0 0
/dev/block/stl9 /system rfs ro,relatime,vfat,log_off,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 /data rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /data_tmo rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/stl10 /dbdata rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/stl11 /cache rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/stl3 /efs rfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,vfat,llw,check=no,gid/uid/rwx,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/block/vold/179:1 /mnt/sdcard vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
/dev/block/vold/179:9 /mnt/sdcard/external_sd vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
/dev/block/vold/179:9 /mnt/secure/asec vfat rw,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0002,dmask=0002,allow_utime=0020,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
tmpfs /mnt/sdcard/external_sd/.android_secure tmpfs ro,relatime,size=0k,mode=000 0 0
/dev/block/dm-0 /mnt/asec/org.wopnersoft.unitconverter-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
/dev/block/dm-1 /mnt/asec/com.rovio.angrybirds-1 vfat ro,dirsync,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,uid=1000,fmask=0222,dmask=0222,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8,errors=remount-ro 0 0
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If you require a video proof, I will shoot a video and PM you the link, don't wanna clutter this forum with so called android propaganda
mhassanz said:
first of all sorry if my post in wrong place.
Please help me out with this situation.
I used to have HTC touch pro2, and as you might know that you can find hundred of ROMS and apps like pim backup, SPB shell, garmin, etc. I just bought HTC HD7, its really smooth no lagging no craking, very responsive it never freeze or stuck as HTC TOUCH PRO2 OR HD2, but i didnt find any rom or any apps for hd7, i used to have such as SMSSPAM, POWERSMS,etc.
So i was wondering should i go for Samsung vibrant? how is that? is that responsive? smooth? I believe that android have more apps than htc hd7 i didn't find any good free apps, every single game is for $6-7, that sucks. I have my one year old sms i always make backup of that with pim backup, but in this HTC HD7 i cant transfer my those sms.
What you guys think? which one is better
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I chose the HD7 because the OS is the best there is. And it will get better as time goes by. The Vibrant wasn't even a consideration because of the lack of a flash on the camera. If I were to choose among T-Mobile phones, the HD7 and the G2 would be the only choices for me.
I love my G2 but it seems like it wouldn't be as good as a business phone as anything running windows mobile.
I second the vibrant hate. I had so many problems with that phone I sold it for 100 dollars just to get the G2
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
thenotoriouspie said:
I love my G2 but it seems like it wouldn't be as good as a business phone as anything running windows mobile.
I second the vibrant hate. I had so many problems with that phone I sold it for 100 dollars just to get the G2
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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WP7 is not windows mobile though
Def the HD7, and u see what im using.
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Had my vibrant for one week now, came from the hero. I say get the Vibrant, you wont regret it all.
I just rooted it and installed a custom Rom for fun, just because I could. I love it, and I'm thinking about getting back into the Modding scene.
If you have a older device, then any of these two devices will be a breath of fresh air to you.
You can't lose with either one. Just pick the one that interest you the most.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
i run the captivate which is similar to the vibrant...i say go with the vibrant man, im not dissing windows 7 mobile or anything, but everytime i run windows mobile phones, i get nothing but problems...i owuldnt mind getting a windows phone a year from now when all the devs start getting apps out for free on the market like the android has, but i think android will always have the better share of the market IMHO
SiL3nTKiLL said:
i run the captivate which is similar to the vibrant...i say go with the vibrant man, im not dissing windows 7 mobile or anything, but everytime i run windows mobile phones, i get nothing but problems...i owuldnt mind getting a windows phone a year from now when all the devs start getting apps out for free on the market like the android has, but i think android will always have the better share of the market IMHO
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guess you didn't get the memo that WP7 is NOT Windows Mobile...
I have a Samsung Fascinate. And honestly im completely let down. Not by the phone itself. It has amazing hardware inside it. But unless the OS is supported and developers develope........then there is no point!
If you want games and Apps and so on...then stick with Windows phone 7........
If you want just a phone browser email then get the vibrant...but if you want more than stay away from Android...........
If you have an HD2, use it for Android and get the WP7. The HD2 is excellent for getting a feel for Android and running it. You get all of the Android apps and games like you would with a dedicated Android phone, except you get more with the HD2 because you can choose from a variety of builds and they will use any and every app on the Market. The dedicated Android phones won't do that.
Sherwood1 said:
I have a Samsung Fascinate. And honestly im completely let down. Not by the phone itself. It has amazing hardware inside it. But unless the OS is supported and developers develope........then there is no point!
If you want games and Apps and so on...then stick with Windows phone 7........
If you want just a phone browser email then get the vibrant...but if you want more than stay away from Android...........
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Check the first page, I think we had another user with the Fascinate complain about Vibrant.
These are almost the same outta box, and completely different once you come here and start making it the way it should've been.
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Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
nobody can say this because all developers work on this in their free time and its their decission how much time they spend to this.
on the other hand there are many non solved problems and nobody can say if this problems can be fixed in 2 days or never.
so lets wait and see what great things devs can do in future
In theory it should run as smooth on Rhodium too I guess since they use the same kind of core hardwares such as processor and RAM.
The only thing I would guess is the drivers issues with the different hardwares such as keyboard, etc..., but as lhwparis said, the developers do it at their own time.
We just have to wish them good luck and appreciate their effort
breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Im pretty sure that Rhodium Android benchmarks faster than on other native android devices already using Android Market benchmarking apps.
x10dude said:
If it is run off the SD card, I don't know if it will ever be as fast and smooth as a genuine Android phone. I think there is potential to get most if not all of the Android functionality at decent speeds but a genuine Android phone will still probably be faster and smoother.
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Not completely true. The SD card is removable flash, the internal storage is just non-removable flash. If you get a fast enough SD card, there's no difference.
Also, Android can be flashed to the internal storage of a device with some cunning through the same idea they are using now (bootloading through Haret). Take a look at the Vogue and Kaiser threads.. The devs just have to work on that process, which I'm sure is not as important to them as getting Open GL working 100%, sound, and complete battery management.
I stand corrected. Thanks. Running Android of SD memory can be just as fast.
Exactly. When you buy your next SD card, shell out the extra $10 or so and get a class 6. You won't regret it.
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
ikari87 said:
You mean, if only you get a very fast SD card, the whole system, including all animations and click(touch)-processing latencies will be as fast as on devices running Android natively?
I want to clarify that, since I thought it just has some serious driver underdevelopment issues (like opengl, which is widely used by it) or some kind of slower debug build. On my phone it runs about two-three time slower than on a phone with native android (and lower cpu clock, but much lower screen resolution as well)
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What are you comparing your phone to? Don't look at a Droid X or an EVO dude. You have to compare apples to apples - about the closest native Android hardware to our phones is/was the HTC Hero. So that's our benchmark basically.
With that said, there probably is some software improvements, but getting a higher class SD will definitely help as well. I heard boot times are probably the most to benefit from higher class SD - don't expect miracles tho, there's definitely still some things that need optimizing - I think at present the devs aren't exactly sure what those things are
Once the major bugs are squashed certainly the focus will then be more on stability, performance and battery life. We've gotten quite a few battery fixes lately, hopefully performance will be next on the docket
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
ikari87 said:
I was comparing it to the nearest phone I could touch, ZTE Racer ;-)
Racer has a 600MHz clock (okay, i thought it was slower than 528 (AFAIR) of TP2) and a pretty ****ty screen ;-). But that's not one of those 1G Snapdragons.
I wish TP2 ran Android like a brand new phone one day... ;-)
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Having owned and used an HTC Hero and Samsung Moment I can tell you that the vanilla version (non-overclocked) of this build is about the same speed as the Hero. The overclocked version is faster than both when running on my class 6 card.
No Crystal Ball & No HTC Help
breytex said:
Hey guys!
Do you think, that android will EVER run as fast and smooth on a rhodium as it runs on a native andoid phone?
Can you guess aprox. when the time comes?
thx for answer :->
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The issues are drivers, drivers, drivers and null assistance from HTC. With little more than the technical docs of the Qualcomm processor shared by the Rhodium as well as native HTC & other manufacturers Android devices the developers are nothing short of being friggin amazing. It's a lot of hit n miss trial n error and we the users are the beta testers.
My initial goal of being one of many beta testers was to see whether Android is a viable replacement for my WinMo device especially in light of Microsoft's direction with WP7.
HTC is helpful to XDA developers when it helps sell current devices. Unfortunately HTC in their shortsightedness fails to see the benefit of a successful Project Android being the springboard of many to a purchase a new native Android HTC device.
So will we have drivers, drivers, drivers to make the Rhodium as good or better than a similar hardware native Android device is a question no one can answer definitively when or if ever. For the time being, I like other beta testers will avoid phone calls like the plague, but nonetheless will have enough hands on to make an educated decision whether Android is right for them.
I dont know
My setup of Android seems to be working pretty good minus a few small bugs. Main bug I would say is battery issues. All in all mine is damn quick,and definitely faster than the winmo on the device. My winmo is trim and pimped out but still runs like a turd. It's reliable but slow. My ole lady has the Epic Galaxy S, and it is indeed fast and smooth with particularly vivid color (amoled), but I am gaining a new appreciation for my TP2 again wth Android. My screen looks pretty sharp as well. I am bouncing back and forth from winmo to droid often, but I can manage to stay in droid for long periods and not miss a beat. Waking up to my new rooster alarm sound ain't too shabby either.
I am a stickler for response speeds, and winmo out of the box blew just like it does on computers. Linux has never let me down, and now neither will droid. I would like to have a way in droid to check my 10 different email address' and not just gmail, but I'm sure there's a way. Windows' ideas are ok but their performance/quality has always just been farts upwind.
One thing some people don't think about is the apps and stuff they choose to run and the things they do on their phone, but at least android attempts to warn you of the access the app is being granted on your device before you install. Phones today have cameras, mics, speakers, communications, GPS, and a G-sensor. The only thing they can't do is taste and smell (coming soon). All in all though, they are capable of knowing where you are, where you've been, what you say, and what you look like as well as possibly being remotely controlled. Enjoy, but beware
The only thing holding us back is the slow GPU and the resistive screen.
Hi all,
I have Palm Treo 700p's and want to update a bit without losing my fair and flex
family plan with Sprint; unfortunately Spring says I can't upgrade to any of the
phones that natively run Android,
I learned about flashing HTC phones running WM and have been trying to learn.
Trying to decide between the Touch or Touch Pro which seem to be the newest
HTC phones I can use.
It appears that the Touch had the best support but the developers have moved
on and the Touch Pro may now be getting more support; do I read this correctly?
Which would you recommend, Touch or Touch Pro, or is there another phone I
should check with Sprint for use?
I welcome your input
Thanks
FS
You're going to be very disappointed if you expect either of these phones to run Android natively well.
This port isn't nearly done. Perhaps the only phone (to my knowledge) that could be considered complete is the HTC Vogue - which is ironically the original Touch you are probably speaking of.
The TouchPro IMHO is a better phone (the keyboard is fantastic - only better is on the TP2 ) but does not run Android very well. Android is just a plaything, for testing and for fun on most WinCE devices.
To sum up - the Vogue & the HD2 have the most complete port of Android, with the Vogue probably being considered "completely finished" (full NAND), however... that hardware is old. HD2 is very promising, they have a few little bugs to squash and then NAND... But no HD2 love for Sprint.
Not sure how good of an Android experience it is on the Vogue. Won't ever be that fantastic on the TP or TP2 tho.... Old hardware there as well my friend
I was in the same boat. have a great (cheap) old data plan that I was not willing to give up.
I went with a touch diamond. My previous phone was a vogue.
I can say that the diamond is a far better phone than the vogue. Better screen, more responsive touchscreen, better video, accelerometer, better camera... but the Vogue probably does better with Android since it can run Android from Nand instead of the storage (SD) card.
Android is fun on the Diamond, but its pretty crippled. No camera. No speakerphone for things like GPS. Poor battery life. Too slow for any flash apps to run fluidly... Basically android on the Diamond feels more like an emulation- because that is all it is.
That said, its fun to be able to play around with android, and WinMo is not so bad for a dead OS. There are some decent ROMs and plenty of freeware still floating around. And the Diamond makes for a nice phone on terms of small size, GPS, good speakerphone, WIFI and even WIFI sharing with the right ROM.
tk76 said:
I can say that the diamond is a far better phone than the vogue. Better screen, more responsive touchscreen, better video, accelerometer, better camera... but the Vogue probably does better with Android since it can run Android from Nand instead of the storage (SD) card.
Android is fun on the Diamond, but its pretty crippled. No camera. No speakerphone for things like GPS. Poor battery life. Too slow for any flash apps to run fluidly... Basically android on the Diamond feels more like an emulation- because that is all it is.
That said, its fun to be able to play around with android, and WinMo is not so bad for a dead OS. There are some decent ROMs and plenty of freeware still floating around. And the Diamond makes for a nice phone on terms of small size, GPS, good speakerphone, WIFI and even WIFI sharing with the right ROM.
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Just to set the record straight, this project is running natively on the hardware - it's not a virtual machine, and it is certainly not being emulated in any way shape or form...
I could see how you would think that, because of all the broken/not working stuff... Well we just have to reverse engineer WinMo libs, dlls, etc and then write our own drivers basically for the different pieces of hardware.
Hence the reason new kernels come out so frequently - there's a lot of work that needs to be done on that kernel to get everything working the way it should. Devs are making some good progress lately, hopefully DIAM/RAPH will have NAND soon. I heard Neopeek was working on NAND back in August on his DIAM... haven't heard much about it since unfortunately. However, RHOD's have a partial NAND, and with the head of steam we've got going now, I'm pretty confident soon we will be up to the level of the Vogue - if not beyond it. However, the processor/RAM specs are pretty paltry compared to most native Android devices.
Sorry for the damned long post. One last question, your speakerphone doesn't work in GPS? Hrm. It should. Have you tried the newest kernels...? The autobuild service is down, but F22's been kindly building them for us...
why not just get a NEWER phone other then one that was released 2-4 years ago?
Cause after having invested SO MUCH time into running android on the phone, it's impossible to give up.. And having full control over hardware compensates for the hardware being ancient
Aaron McCarthy said:
why not just get a NEWER phone other then one that was released 2-4 years ago?
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Because moneys doesn't grow on the trees..
HELICOPTER88 said:
Because moneys doesn't grow on the trees..
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Exactly! Or I would have had a nexus 1 a long time ago... ;D
e334 said:
Exactly! Or I would have had a nexus 1 a long time ago... ;D
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and I would have had a Desire...
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
In the case of Samsung, why wouldn't you just get the Captivate (Galaxy S)? Already has Android. The Focus is basically the same phone...
scottadams2m2003 said:
I have followed XDA for quite some time and have been waiting for someone to get a little bored with android like myself and start the modding of the new WinMo 7 phones to run both Android and WinMo 7. I can't find anything on it. Is it just not possible (yet)??? I know the devices can handle it...1ghz, 16gb internal, plenty of memory...Vibrant, etc. Seems like the perfect device for a dual boot Eclair/Froyo and WinMo 7. Windows Mobile 6x running Android is old and the 1st one I did was the Tytn II by HTC. Slow, but it was still nice to have both.
Any Devs out there wanna push this? I'll buy hardware and do any tests wanted. Seems Samsung specs are pretty equal between the Vibrant and Focus or even like the port of Android to the HD2...can it be done using the HD7 from T-Mo?
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why start from ZERO when HD2 is already running Android pretty smoothly and will be getting wp7 soon? Not to bash or anything but wp7 may not be as easy to tinker with as compared to wm6.
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~~Tito~~
hello XDA world! i had a couple of questions i was hoping someone may help me with
running on MBP with 10.6.5, installed "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
Version: Helios Service Release 1
Build id: 20100917-0705
clicked on the android.apk under tools and updated all. then went to eclipse and help-install new software.
am i ready? somewhere a read something about updating your path with .bash_profile? that part makes absolutely no sense to me at all. i know only a little terminal from ubuntu, may have figured it out just now, i went to eclipse preferences and added the path from the downloads folder.
ok so now am i ready?
cant anyone provide me with links to how to use this to make my own roms. or any good getting started links? id really appreciate it.
p.s. can someone explain framework to me, i want to know why ASOP roms cant have 4g or HDMI, or if its possible to make a hybrid rom like frost with all the sense removed while staying on the sense framework and not breaking it?
lastly, can i get my phone replaced because of false advertisement or limitations of hardware? i mean i have been wiping and flashing different roms testing them and no-matter what rom or setup i have i still get jitters and all around crappy GUI. next to my friends galaxy S my phone just seems defective and choppy, granted with the newer roms and fps unlocked, its still not close to as smooth as the galaxy S in terms of usability, is the hummingbird that much better or is it poorly written drivers for the snapdragon that makes it inferior?
if i took my phone up to best buy and had them look at it next to a galaxy s model what chances are there that i could replace it because of the overall inferior android experience? when i opened up pocked legends at the same time on both phones i was blown away that the galaxy s was indeed smooth while on my evo the gameplay was choppy like the game was not getting enough
FPS. although fps2d says it gets around 54, i have HDW 0003. any additional info would be helpful sorry that im so inquisitive today i just decided i wanted to know if my phone was the right choice for me.
hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?
bweisholtz said:
hey all
i just wanted to get some of your feedback regarding the Evo 3D and the love/lack of love it will get from the development community.
I love the specs on it, but the new 3D technology and display seems like it could be hell AOSP devs to create roms for.
For example, it took nearly 9 months to get 4G fully working on CM (which i love and appreciate b/c it's been my daily driver since my G1). So i feel like the same type of delay would be in effect for all the new technology the 3D will have, such as the dual 5MP cameras.
Anyways, i could be completely off on my analysis of this.
The thing is, i would consider an upgrade to the 3D purely based off the dual core processor and other specs. But, if i can't have a functional, nice CM build for it, i honestly don't think i would go near it.
opinions?
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I am certainly no developer but the existence of the Nexus S 4G should help to iron out any 4G issues that are left and make 4G available in any EVO 3D AOSP builds. AFAIK, I believe the biggest reason behind the delay in 4G for the EVO was that they basically had to build it from the ground up since they didn't have any AOSP source to modify for it.
As for the developer support, I was wondering the same. I really want the EVO 3D but I don't want to get stuck in a position like all the Epic users are with little developer and no CM support. I hate waiting but I might wait to see how much love each of the new phones gets before deciding which one to go with.
Chances are that since the Nexus is supposed to be released first and there is already a version available, that will be the phone that many people flock to. I had actually considered PM'ing a couple of my favorite developers (Toast, Flipzmode, Myn) and see what phones they were leaning toward. I think that the ease of rooting might also be a factor. If HTC and/or Samsung end up locking the phones down real tight, that might end up swaying some people one way or another.
Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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xHausx said:
Check out the Evo 3d forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1095
They just made it a few days ago so I don't think it shows up on the xda app yet.
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Just looked at it, it looks like joeykrim and toastcfh are in which means, at the very least, the thing will probably be rooted before it's released. And if anyone can get the 3D thing figured out, TeamWin can.