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I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
slight22 said:
I'm currently using a TP2 and I don't have enough RAM. Part of the reason and I know it's my fault is the customization of the phone with different toys and apps. This is my fault not the phone. So far the phone is working flawlessly.
What I have is over a gig and a half of a 2 gig memory card in my phone completely free. What I would like to do is use the spare memory as RAM, allowing the phone all the necessary space it needs.
If I keep going on this thought, would rebuilding the OS with the sd card as the primary install location work as well. This would give us gigs of space to install and gigs or RAM to work with esp if you have a 6 or 8 gig sd card.
Any thoughts?
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You can't (as the end-user) use a storage card as Virtual RAM.
However, I believe that WinMo 6.5 does allow for virtual RAM to be used through the internal storage, but that will require you cooking the ROM yourself, etc. I've never messed around with that though, since the device I cooked for didn't have a native nk.exe. The TP2 does, however, so you can experiment away.
And remember, RAM = Program Memory, the space where currently running programs temporarily store their information for quick read access (Random Access Module).
Don't confuse it with Storage Space, which is where data is permanently stored. I think you understand the difference.
Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
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Thank you for the benefit of the doubt lol. Yes I do understand the difference thats why i was thinking if the SD memory could in essence be used to build the OS, because it is no different that the ROM in the sole exception that it's easier to remove.
But also in that same sense (and this might be a stretch) Vista is capable of using a removable memory stick as virtual ram to speed up your PC's functionality. If that is possible there, and you've got a 8 gig SD card in your phone, splitting it off for virtual RAM is hopefully possible.
Maybe even think of it this was. 9 gig SD card, almost like partitioning a hard drive. 3 setup for virtual RAM, 3 setup as storage, 3 setup for ROM access to load the OS.
Or am i thinking WAY to far outside the box of possibilities?
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Eh, this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445) will have all and enough information for you
Post 2 discusses Virtual Memory. Yea, I don't know what all that mumbo-jumbo means, since I never cooked for one of the newer, nk.exe WM6.5 compatible devices. But you'll find all the info on the new WM6.5 ROM's and cooking it, etc, on that thread. Enjoy the hefty reading!
Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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Nobody knows anything for sure. Every leak was mentioning 8GB in all devices except an LG one, but whether that will be the only option or this is just the amount of storage in current pre-production devices or this is the capacity of storage cards that will be shipped (but can be somehow changed later) remains to be seen.
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I hope they're all just held on by a latch under the battery...if not those OEMs that just made 8GB phones really messed up. But they're just Gen 1 phones anyway. Really hoping to see MS code the drivers for Hummingbird & Tegra chipsets.
If those cards are somehow accessible, that would indeed be great. Especially if SDXC is supported.
On the other hand, they can easily mess up, this won't be the first or the last time they do it.
I think that the reason we are seeing 8GB on all the leaks are because these are test devices.
Let's think about it, most of the device specs that have been leaked are using non-removable SD cards.
SD cards are relatively cheap, just plug it in and viola, you got 8, 16, or 32 GB. Knowing this, it seems likely that we'll see an OEM (such as HTC), release one device (such as HD3) with several different storage levels (8GB, 16GB, 32GB) simply because the cost of adding a higher storage card is negligible compared to using flash storage.
The reason for all these 8GB devices is because WP7 requires a minimum of 8GB built in storage for apps and media. Manufacturers can make it as high they want.
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Is there any reason that all leaks so far says that the phone only have 8GB Storage. Especially the HTC HD7, which is supposed to be HTCs state of the art Phone should have at least 16GB Storage from the beginning. 8GB isn't quite enough for someone with a lot of music and other media, and to say "but it has 25GB cloud storage!" isn't valid when talking about Music and media, scince the cloud isn't always there and can't be as responsive as a local storage.
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Exactly one of the reasons why I don't want to buy WP7 when it comes out. I might go to Android for the time being.
All CPUs are qualcomm 8250, no tethering, 8gb storage, no expanision (had this been on the phones, it would have forgiven the 8gb internal storage). All though I LOVE how it is incorporated to XBL, I don't think that is enough to win me over. I'm on the fence here.
Yeah, that they're also using the QSD8250 sucks. On the other hand, I don't think that Android will be faster with QSD8650A than a WP7 with the QSD8250. Part because Android is kinda slow so the extra CPU power will probably be consumed and games and Apps in Android is developed to fit with slower devices (and devices without 2.2)
Tethering is confirmed from what I've heard, but it's up to the carrier to decide if it should be enabled.
My biggest worries is still the 8GB memory (and lack of important APIs), but hopefully it's only because of the testing devices all leaks report 8GB.
Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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Ideally, I would love have any WP7 with a SD Slot so I can go and buy a 32gb to potentially replace my 30gb 1st gen Zune, since it's built in then use whatever is onboard for phone use. As of right now, I'm still rocking a day 1 G1 with the stock 1gb inside, so anything right now will be considered an upgrade. I do have a feeling that the "leaked" specs may just test units or even a Euro specific version and the US version may differ....but then again that would be in a perfect world. Only time will tell with the "official release".
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How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
Alex530 said:
How the hell does Your G1 have 1g of internal storage?
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
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Not internal....SD Card. Hell, 1gb internal would be amazing. I dont use many apps but it sure would help out.
So I went ahead and bought the Microcenter Class 2 16GB MicroSDHC card, which is on the approved list, and aside from the irritating discovery that Zune doesn't actually backup the phone and let you restore it, all's working well.
But I think I'm perceiving something of a slowdown in the feel of the OS since installing the card. It's not massive, I can't measure it, but it just "feels" slower generally while navigating the OS, loading things, etc.
Anybody else notice this or am I high on crack? Oh, and just to be clear I'm using a brand new Samsung Focus.
The quality of the SD card make a massive difference. I first put in a 16gb no-name card into my Mozart, and I honestly thought I'd broken the phone in the teardown to get to the SD slot. The whole OS lagged and there were 5 second hangs on the frontend screen. Generally nasty.
I've since switched to a Sandisk Class 4 32gb and it's gone back to being completely fast and smooth.
From what I've heard, Class 2 might be a bit too slow for WP7.
OK, cool (well, not cool, but you know what I mean--at least I feel less like I'm hallucinating imaginary slowdowns! that's good to have confirmation. I'm gonna return this sucker and snag a sandisk class 4 then.
I also have a class 4 sandisk 32Gb in my WP7. I haven't experienced any slowdown. But then again I put it in right when the sales agent handed me the phone so I don't know if there was any difference.
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Now: Samsung Focus WP7 (32 GB micorSD)
Then: HTC Kaiser (Tilt) WM6.1(8 GB microSD)
Before: HP iPaq 4705 WM2003SE (6GB Compact Flash)
Prehistoric: Dell Axim X5 PocketPC2002 (6GB Compact Flash)
In a few places my focus feels slightly slower with my sandisk 16GB microSDHC class 4.. but it's so minuscule that I could chalk it up to perceived slowness.
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From what I've heard, Class 2 might be a bit too slow for WP7.
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I've had zero problems with my class 2 and there absolutely was no slowdown whatsoever. Quality counts and it may be that size counts also. Mine is an 8GB Sandisk. I've been reading here and there that people who have had problems have cards larger than 8GB almost without exception. If you stripe two hard drives of different sizes you don't get the sum of the two, you get double the size of the smallest drive and the rest is ignored. You can make a partition out of it but that's immaterial. The phone is different in that you get the sum of internal and SD memory but I'd assume it's only going to stripe the first 8GB. If it hits that boundary in the middle of a memory operation does it suddenly have to switch how it reads that memory? If so, it is the source of some instability? I don't know but it is starting to kind of look that way.
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If you stripe two hard drives of different sizes you don't get the sum of the two, you get double the size of the smallest drive and the rest is ignored.
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Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.
Jim Coleman said:
Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.
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its something like "jbod" I think http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_Array_of_Independent_Disks
edit : linked to en version .
Got a class 2 Sandisk 32GB card in my Mozart and there's actually no slowdown noticeable. Read somewhere that speed is not limited by the SD Class, but something like possible operations at the same time..
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Just as well wp7 doesn't use striping then.
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Really? I've read all over the place that it does, hence the need to reset the phone when removing or adding a card.
Got a new Sandisk 16GB class 4 last night, wiped the device and installed it--not only is it back up to its original speed, not only are there no waits for icons to refresh on the start page, but get this: I got an extra 2GB out of it. With the Microcenter card the system reported 20GB available fresh--with the Sandisk, it reports 22GB.
All in all, I'm going to agree with avoiding one of two things: either class 2 cards (which makes sense, even if the difference is really small), or Microcenter cards. I'm not clear which, butat least I can say conclusively that the sandisk card works well
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Really? I've read all over the place that it does, hence the need to reset the phone when removing or adding a card.
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Thats not why it has to be reset. Search works
Its cause of the way WP7 secures the card.
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Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
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less moving parts = less things to break
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Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
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Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
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fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
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You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
blunden said:
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
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Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
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still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
streets814 said:
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
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USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
OK, after searching for a good SD card... I found 100mb/s reads from top shelf SD cards made for high def recording to work well on our Note 8.0 devices.
Though I did the mistake of moving a few 500+ MB apps to SD, yes they were quick to transfer... just as slow at backing up to SD as before my tests.
One thing that is a hidden bonus... before, when I disabled saving cached images in a xposed module... there was considerable lag in showing album art from mp3 files. Now it is barely noticeable when scrolling at a fast pace. I had over 300MB of cached images before disabling android's built in feature. Now I can have my cake and eat it.
Since many are moving apps to SD, I recommend the fastest speed you can get, not the fastest you can afford.
remember write speeds will very, by burst mode and read/write verification, as with TI Backup. I would assume dumping data would be greater, just have no way to measure quantitatively, just seat of the trousers.
Here is a list of compatible ultra high speed SD cards.
PNY Elite 100MB/s (Able to get them in the UK, US is low availability)
Sandisk Extreme (Plus/Pro) 95MB/s
Toshiba Exceria 95MB/s
Lexar 633x 95MB/s
gooberdude said:
OK, after searching for a good SD card... I found 100mb/s reads from top shelf SD cards made for high def recording to work well on our Note 8.0 devices.
Though I did the mistake of moving a few 500+ MB apps to SD, yes they were quick to transfer... just as slow at backing up to SD as before my tests.
One thing that is a hidden bonus... before, when I disabled saving cached images in a xposed module... there was considerable lag in showing album art from mp3 files. Now it is barely noticeable when scrolling at a fast pace. I had over 300MB of cached images before disabling android's built in feature. Now I can have my cake and eat it.
Since many are moving apps to SD, I recommend the fastest speed you can get, not the fastest you can afford.
remember write speeds will very, by burst mode and read/write verification, as with TI Backup. I would assume dumping data would be greater, just have no way to measure quantitatively, just seat of the trousers.
Here is a list of compatible ultra high speed SD cards.
PNY Elite 100MB/s (Able to get them in the UK, US is low availability)
Sandisk Extreme (Plus/Pro) 95MB/s
Toshiba Exceria 95MB/s
Lexar 633x 95MB/s
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I forgot to add... I have done extensive redirection of files and folders to SD card. I only moved apps over 200mb in size as their data was a bit large to be taking up system ram.
All my downloads, media, backups and internet cache are stored on SD card. About half of the apps allow default folder redirection, so an xposed plugin was used to set redirect system defaults for all media types and downloads. So far I do not see any noticeable lag as before using my old SD card. Though it was 20mb/s read/write capable. I am now at 95MBps / 45MBps
I am using Trickster Mod to push my cache to 2048 for added speed improvements.
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I forgot to add... I have done extensive redirection of files and folders to SD card. I only moved apps over 200mb in size as their data was a bit large to be taking up system ram.
All my downloads, media, backups and internet cache are stored on SD card. About half of the apps allow default folder redirection, so an xposed plugin was used to set redirect system defaults for all media types and downloads. So far I do not see any noticeable lag as before using my old SD card. Though it was 20mb/s read/write capable. I am now at 95MBps / 45MBps
I am using Trickster Mod to push my cache to 2048 for added speed improvements.
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Are they actual speeds, or speeds claimed by the manufacturer? Big difference. I'm not totally convinced the SD-interface itself is capable of such high speeds, but I would love to be wrong on that.
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Are they actual speeds, or speeds claimed by the manufacturer? Big difference. I'm not totally convinced the SD-interface itself is capable of such high speeds, but I would love to be wrong on that.
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I have no real data as android does not have a good set of tools for proper testing.
I do know the speeds given are maximum. Given that doing random read/write functions will be much lower.
Though I did test a UHS-1 64gb that had 30mb/s read - 20mb/s write. It took 30 minutes to perform a full Ti Backup to SD.
On reading mp3 files, I noticed lag bringing up album art in Samsung music player with cache disabled.
With the 633x chip, and same full backup, I got 17 minutes backup time in Ti Backup.
On reading mp3, hardly any lag with album art in Samsung music player and cache disabled.
I assume the biggest issue is write speeds on the Ti backup test. As the 633x chip has 2x the speed for writes.
Seeing how my chip is working well, you may find a 600x chip will work just as good for less money. After all there is not much difference in speeds between the 600x and 633x chips at this time. Mostly due to write speeds. Getting a 65+ MB/s write speed is more critical than getting 90+ read.
OK, it has been some time since I posted...
Here is my update!
Ti Backup has been my sole source for testing, as my backups have been timed and consistent.
As for placing apps on the SD card, speeds are much better than expected. In some cases faster than having them loaded to the system.
Just there is no way to beat the speeds for backing up from system as there seems to be a bottle neck with the internal data channel and SD card. It shows up even more so with OTG connection. Could be the driver not hardware for SD slot, the USB2 connection will be limited as seen in OTG testing. Once I have 4.4.x installed from OTA, I can make a better run at testing SD slot performance.
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I have no real data as android does not have a good set of tools for proper testing.
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Android has several great tools for testing SD cards. SD Tools, A1 SD Bench, SD Card Tester. You can test a number of different ways. They're definitely better than just timing a backup.
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Android has several great tools for testing SD cards. SD Tools, A1 SD Bench, SD Card Tester. You can test a number of different ways. They're definitely better than just timing a backup.
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Well if you place a full back up on SD and also have apps and large files on SD as well, you are getting the best test as far as I am concerned.
Real world performance vs synthetic benchmarks has always been a pain in my side.
Giving such a review should hold up over numbers from bench mark apps. I scoff at numbers, as they are skewed into one thing or another. Just like Intel getting bigger numbers over AMD, Yet, AMD ran faster for my real world experience.
I'm old school, real world or no world for me! Its a wonder why I bother with the internet, as it is too virtual for any existence. HA!
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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Well if you place a full back up on SD and also have apps and large files on SD as well, you are getting the best test as far as I am concerned.
Real world performance vs synthetic benchmarks has always been a pain in my side.
Giving such a review should hold up over numbers from bench mark apps. I scoff at numbers, as they are skewed into one thing or another. Just like Intel getting bigger numbers over AMD, Yet, AMD ran faster for my real world experience.
I'm old school, real world or no world for me! Its a wonder why I bother with the internet, as it is too virtual for any existence. HA!
GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!
This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
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The point of benchmarking is to put the system through the same tests under the same circumstances and give equipment and equal footing. That's probably not what you're doing with titanium backup. There's a bunch of variables that could skew your results when you just time it like that. Without a proper benchmark is probably as valuable as reading the max read writes from the packet.
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The point of benchmarking is to put the system through the same tests under the same circumstances and give equipment and equal footing. That's probably not what you're doing with titanium backup. There's a bunch of variables that could skew your results when you just time it like that. Without a proper benchmark is probably as valuable as reading the max read writes from the packet.
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Wha??? Now freak'n way dude! I know I have been in the business for 40 freak'n years. Cache, and background services always screw up benchmarks, and there is no way to make equal be equal.
As for my tests... I have 3 gb of apps and data on system. 1 gb of data on SD, and 300mb of apps on SD. Do the math, a full backup on Ti making the backups on SD, will allow both random read writes which are critical, and sequential read/writes as a mix. What I stated from the beginning all being equal moving from a fast 30MB/s card to 633x allowed for cutting my time almost in half.
I have done, 5 tests back and forth and the times are all the same. Seeing is believing since I have already noted, disabling cache made Samsung music player slow at reloading album art, while the 633x chip acts like cache is enabled.
Again do the math... I doubled write speed from chip specs, and got results along with showing reads are much faster by how the apps function.
A whole industry disagrees with you, but whatever.