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How would you design the next Touch Pro? (3)

Heres my idea:
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Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN

Wow... that looks like a genuinely decent replacement for the Rhodium. As far as the exterior hardware goes, I would definitely love something like that to replace the Rhodium! The milled aluminum/white ABS plastic body, combined with the rounded sides and sharp edges immediately make me think of one of the new MacBooks. If that existed right now and would get a WM7 upgrade, I would definitely consider purchasing it (as long as it isn't powered by a Qualcomm MSM7xxx)

haha, I should have added some specs shouldnt I?
If I had my way:
Windows Phone 7 Series
GSM & CDMA versions available
1GB RAM
16GB Storage (stupid WP7S wont support memory cards ¬_¬)
Snapdragon 1.5GhZ processor (at least)
4" AMOLED screen
High quality Stereo Speakers
Front 2 mp camera
Back 5 mp camera
(If I was going to do real photography, I would use a camera, not a cameraphone so I dont think anything larger than 5mp is really needed)
GPRS/HSDPA etc
WIFI/Bluetooth (no wimax, because seriously.. whos gonna need it?)
3.5mm Headphone jack
Dedicated camera button on the side (the on-screen one is annoying)
Also as an afterthought I would have removed the notification LEDs
and placed them internally near the top, so the HTC logo glows when you have a text / have wifi on / new message etc

wow, the very bottom two corner picture looks like a DS Lite..it was cool until I saw that
whatever the TP3 may be, I just want it to run WP7S better than any phone in the market when it releases, and available at T-Mobile w/ a price point like the HD2 release

I like your version of the TP3! Looks nice.
Scott

Make it the same size/weight as the Diamond (including slide out keyboard)
battery life the same as a Nokia 1100 (or perhaps a Ford Anglia)
1GB RAM plus built in 16GB storage
"N" internet speeds guaranteed
And a request, a Personal Microwave Generator to heat up the cups of coffee that go cold whilst playing.

mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 3 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers

Robson said:
mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 2 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers
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I am actually tempted to send this in to HTC...
lol I like how your 2 points became 3
my response:
1) there wouldnt be a stylus because lets face it Windows Phone 7 doesnt really need one and also it would be a capacitive screen anyway, so it would have to be some kinda funky stylus or a sausage
2) If they included a flash it would have to be a real decent one because ive never seen a cameraphone flash which has been any help
3) lol i dont want to push my luck

I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.

msn.debord said:
I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.
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wow, you obviously havent kept up to date with what Windows Phone 7 Series is then.....

What, no HDMI port?

hmm... i tried sending HTC an email about this, but every time it said there was an error with their messaging system..
ill try again tomorrow :/

no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.

Besides faster processor and more memory - A Track Ball!!!

Yeah that looks awesome!!
Something with the HD2's massive screen and 1GHz processor would be awesome. Plus a good/big hardware keyboard. I also hope there is a decent graphics chip, as that would really enhance performance.
I would be thrilled if there was an Android option too.. but judging by HD2/Supersonic it looks like Android may lag behind in release.
And yeah, trackball (or some sort of joystick/d-pad) is one of those excellent overlooked features (very grateful to have one on my Nexus One).

The Jack of Clubs said:
no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.
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I completely agree. Not excited for wp7 and how its going the route the iphone went with the utter lack of customizability. Android would be sweet though.

**** android, pos os.
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LOL
WM7 and 6.5 FTW.

^^lol im with you
WM 6.5 FTW
but being i came from an iphone idk how i feel about WP7 just yet

WM7, cool design (thx ), big and great hardware (1,5ghz+ CPU, 512+MBRam, 16GB Storage) and a long battery and i would love to own it

cris_rowlands said:
Heres my idea:
Click on the image for a larger version
Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN
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I didn't know we were allowed to post pr0n in the forums, but whatever!
These renders do a great job of putting a visual form on the same fantasy that many of us here have had...an HD2 with just that extra few mm of thickness, and the mid-waist split that could only mean one thing; a dancepad for the thumbs (aka "hardware keyboard")
Well Cris, when HTC finally wizens up and decides to officially release this monster, we'll remember where the design first saw the light of day!

Which WP7 devices?

This poll is created to see how popular each of those WP7 devices are.
Personally, I don't like WP7 because of its unattractive UI look (and that's my opinion). But if I had to choose one WP7 device, it would be Samsung Focus. That is IF it's true that the keyboard is more impressive than the stock Android keyboard, as said by some reviewers/editors. But if that's not true, then I would go with Dell Venue Pro or HTC 7 PRO (cuz both has a physical QWERTY keyboard).
Now, which WP7 device would be your fav. one? Also, pls vote and explain why!
(So, most people like HD7. Simply because of its big screen, but besides that what device-feature would also turn people on?)

I'm torn.
HTC Surround because it HTC and its on AT&T which I already have.
HD7 because of the screen.
LG Quantum because of the DLNA, and again, it's on AT&T.
Trophy looks nice but not available in US to my knowledge.
Put those all together with a 1.5 ghz dual core, add an HDMI out and you've got the perfect phone.

n8huntsman said:
I'm torn.
HTC Surround because it HTC and its on AT&T which I already have.
HD7 because of the screen.
LG Quantum because of the DLNA, and again, it's on AT&T.
Trophy looks nice but not available in US to my knowledge.
Put those all together with a 1.5 ghz dual core, add an HDMI out and you've got the perfect phone.
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Ok, thanks for ur comment! But choose only one and which one will it be???

I'd go with the HD7... Just like my HD2 Nice Big Screen... And on T-Mobile US

rolling with the samsung
samsung is the one for me Super AMOLED 4 inch screen just the right size, the super thin, and the best feature of all external sd after adding my 32 gb sd card will have the largest storage available of 40gb!!!

For me on Tmobile it'll naturally be the HD7 or the Venue. I've ALWAYS had a qwerty keyboard for the longest I can remember when they first popped up, which draws me to the Venue, but the sleek slim-ness of the HD7 is also appealing. At the end of the day I'm set on the Venue unless the on-screen keyboard blows me away to want to replace a physical keyboard, which I doubt, but only time will tell.

rruffman said:
samsung is the one for me Super AMOLED 4 inch screen just the right size, the super thin, and the best feature of all external sd after adding my 32 gb sd card will have the largest storage available of 40gb!!!
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Source pelase? The only confirmed one with expandable memory up to 40gb is the Cetus, not the Omnia7. Though, if you swap the microsd, you'll be factory resetting the whole thing. ><
Back to the thread I'd go for the 16gb version of the Omnia7. Reviews of the HD7 state that the old screen tech really shows, not comparable to IPS, SLCD and AMOLED. Thought the screen is big

Cruzer1 said:
Source pelase? The only confirmed one with expandable memory up to 40gb is the Cetus, not the Omnia7. Though, if you swap the microsd, you'll be factory resetting the whole thing. ><
Back to the thread I'd go for the 16gb version of the Omnia7. Reviews of the HD7 state that the old screen tech really shows, not comparable to IPS, SLCD and AMOLED. Thought the screen is big
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i am speaking of the Cetus i am on att...

rruffman said:
i am speaking of the Cetus i am on att...
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rofl my bad. Wish the Omnia7 had that ><

Engadget is stating that all HTC devices use the newer MSM8250 chipset.... If this is true, makes the choice even harder for me since the Omnia 7 uses the older QSD8250

Cruzer1 said:
rofl my bad. Wish the Omnia7 had that ><
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just think with the 32gb sd card the samsung will have that largest storage on any device!!

Cruzer1 said:
Engadget is stating that all HTC devices use the newer MSM8250 chipset.... If this is true, makes the choice even harder for me since the Omnia 7 uses the older QSD8250
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Pretty sure they aren't The MS Windows Phone 7 site has the specs, and they all say QSD8250

Only the LG phones use the newer snapdragon processors and gpu...does that mean they'll have better battery life?

HD7..it wins hands down..lovely clean and neat design.....wht else do u want??

Daemos said:
Only the LG phones use the newer snapdragon processors and gpu...does that mean they'll have better battery life?
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LG uses QSD8650 wich is also 1st generation with 65nm technology. Wish there could be some units with the MSM8x55 chipset with 45nm technology and better gpu. I guess we will see that in models coming out in spring. It's pretty clear all the manufacturers are just releasing models that are up to microsofts minimum specs in the first wave just so they have something "new" to release in spring. It's not surprising they want to make as much money as possible.
As for the question in the thread. I would probably choose LG Optimus 7 just for the 16GB storage and the DLNA feature. If all phones had DLNA i would choose Samsung Omnia 7 or HTC 7 Mozart.

I'm on an HD2 at the mo and out of the 3 that I can get in the UK (HD7, Mozart, Trophy) the Mozart gets my attention the most. The HD7 is an HD2 with less buttons, a kickstand and WinMo7, the Trophy is smaller but still only has a 5mp camera, the Mozart has an alluminium chasis and an 8mp camera as well as being smaller than the HD7 so thats the best out of the 3 for me as I either wanted the same spec in a smaller package or better spec in the same package.

for me it'd be the Pro, but that's out 2011, and it'll be tough to wait
it's hard to choose. either the Trophy, or the Mozart, or the HD7...

You left one out.
HTC HD7 PRO.
This is the phone that I would choose.
The HTC 7 PRO is sort of like my HTC Touch Pro2 in size. That is why I would not want to choose that one. If I was new to the smartphone and this would be my first smartphone, then I would most likely choose the HTC 7 PRO. But, This would be my 4th HTC purchase. From the HTC TOUCH, to HTC TOUCH PRO, to HTC TOUCH PRO2 ( 2 of them, 1 for my wife & 1 for me ), and now awaiting the next purchase of an HTC phone.

HTC Desire HD
HTC HD7 please

I'm currently using HD2. I think i'd probably go for the HD7 Pro, but at first glance I don't like the UI and none of the WP7s have a card slot and are limited to 8 or 16gb.
Will probably stay away from WP7 to be honest.

[Q] samsung omnia 7 vs dell venue pro

showdown: these 2 seem to pretty much be the pick of the bunch launch devices. which one do you prefer and why?

Venue. I like the bigger screen and the dual speakers. Keyboard I'm fine with or without.

Im usually a sucker for Cool screens, and since the Onmia has a SuperAMOLED screen i originally was thinking of getting that one. But the Venue looks awesome and since its got an AMOLED screen already, i can deal with that But what i Really am interested in with the venue pro is...
THE CURVED GLASS THINGY MAJIG
except.. im kinda skeptical about the chrome. I have a cowon s9 and it has chrome sides and its actually just plastic with chrome painted over and its kinda showing in some scratch marks.

kingjovius said:
Im usually a sucker for Cool screens, and since the Onmia has a SuperAMOLED screen i originally was thinking of getting that one. But the Venue looks awesome and since its got an AMOLED screen already, i can deal with that But what i Really am interested in with the venue pro is...
THE CURVED GLASS THINGY MAJIG
except.. im kinda skeptical about the chrome. I have a cowon s9 and it has chrome sides and its actually just plastic with chrome painted over and its kinda showing in some scratch marks.
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Yeah good point. It's definitely most likely chrome plated plastic.

I think the display and battery life is really good on the Samsung and as I wouldn't use the physical keyboard then I personally would go for the Samsung.

may actually use the dell device because it does have a keyboard, expandable memory and 4.1 in screen (amoled at that)
so I expect some decent battery despite the screen size
when it comes out in America I will never know but I hope its out the same time as the hd7...
I love my hd2 with android and ubuntu but I need a keyboard due to sheer laziness I suppose also because I am a heavy texter

Venue Pro all the way;
Bigger Screen (4.1" vs 4")
Gorilla Glass
Hardware Keyboard
More ROM (1GB)
SD Card Slot (hence up to 40GB storage)
Cheaper
Can't see any advantages at all to the Omnia.

Jim Coleman said:
Venue Pro all the way;
Bigger Screen (4.1" vs 4")
Gorilla Glass
Hardware Keyboard
More ROM (1GB)
SD Card Slot (hence up to 40GB storage)
Cheaper
Can't see any advantages at all to the Omnia.
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You can't use the SD card slot anyway.
Who prefers bigger screen over SUPER AMOLED?

PersoAryanism said:
You can't use the SD card slot anyway.
Who prefers bigger screen over SUPER AMOLED?
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Yes you can use the SD card slot, what on Earth made you think otherwise?
And the Venue Pro also has an AMOLED screen.
Just so you know.

The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.

Phone Titan said:
The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.
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Heh! That's the exact reason I went for the Dell, it was available sim-free

I didnt go for the Dell because its just too chunky, it looks nice, but its too fat, omnia 7 doesnt have enough memory, ended up getting a HD7

loomx said:
I didnt go for the Dell because its just too chunky, it looks nice, but its too fat, omnia 7 doesnt have enough memory, ended up getting a HD7
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If you're happy with 16GB and no expansion, and the old-style LCD display with its washed-out colours, and you don't need a hardware keyboard, then the HD7 is a good choice. But you have to sign up to a 2 year contract for it.

Jim Coleman said:
If you're happy with 16GB and no expansion, and the old-style LCD display with its washed-out colours, and you don't need a hardware keyboard, then the HD7 is a good choice. But you have to sign up to a 2 year contract for it.
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Its on PAYG on O2 for £380

Being that I'm new to touch screen phones. I say the dell because if the touchscreen keyboard doesn't work out i have the keyboard to fall back on.

Phone Titan said:
Its on PAYG on O2 for £380
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Not bad, but what's the deal with PAYG data? I'm on Virgin Mobile, paying a SIM Only monthly rate of £15 for infinite texts, unlimited internet and more minutes than I ever use (300 I think). That's a monthly rolling "contract" so I can change my phone whenever I like.
Plus, wouldn't the phone be locked into O2? Can WP7 phones be unlocked?
Don't forget these phones suck up a helluva lot of data, strikes me PAYG could require a second mortgage...

Try out giffgaff as a PAYG provider. Virtual network running on O2, run by some ex-O2 execs.
You'll get the same 300 minutes for £15 with unlimited internet and texts.
If the HD7 is locked to O2, it should still work on giffgaff (e.g. an old t-mobile locked phone I had worked fine on Virgin)

Jim Coleman said:
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The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.
Heh! That's the exact reason I went for the Dell, it was available sim-free
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The Dell Venue pro will be available on contract in the UK from Orange and T-Mobile, in November

irdawood said:
The Dell Venue pro will be available on contract in the UK from Orange and T-Mobile, in November
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OK that's me sold - Roll on November
I really wanted to prefer the Dell Streak (I have a long commute) - but after trying out a HD7 for around 10 mins I found the OS to be just so slick and a nice place to be, that I have to have one.
The fact that the Venue Pro has a expandable micro sdhc slot and a keyboard just makes it perfect for me
RON

I think the Venue is the BlackBerry Style of Windows Phone 7, that device just stands out so much from the crowd, in a very bad way, it looks so thick and ugly... I am not a huge fan of Samsung products, but the Omnia looks pretty sexy

No manufacturers going to change it up?

I am wondering if any manufacturers are going to be different anytime soon? I am hoping that by July we will see a little "fragmentation" i.e. we have tegra 2 phone with 32GB data and a SAMOLED screen.
Or is chassis 1 very, very strict, that we are only going to see specs x.

well MS has set all minimum specs, but I'm guessing that for things like CPU, MS should define what manufacturers can use as they're all too scared to just put any chip in without causing damage to the WP image. Most of the variations at present can really come from the camera, on board memory (and sd slot), and the screen type. Everything else you'll find to be quite similar at this stage, but hopefully MS defines the other 2 chassis type so that more variations can come about.

Meh, its annoying that the closest to what I want is a slider.
I plan on never having a slider again after seeing pretty much every person who owned a slider(including me) have it break. Conditions don't seem to suit sliders much.
16GB, 4" AMOLED screen, SD slot and audio quality coming out of the phone that is just as good the the Zune HD's.
Omnia 7 just misses it by no SD slot, 16GB almost impossible to get in SA, and the audio out seems to have missed all the low bass?!
I use quality headphones + an amp, or I plug my phone into my speaker system or my car. I will notice those frequencies...
Though one thing I do not care for, definately goes to speaker quality, neer really cared about that.

Agree! if just ONE manufacture put their whole effort into 1 of their WP7 phones, it would wipe the floor with the competition and give us all an obvious choice when it comes to selecting a wp7 phone. instead, the choice is difficult and they are technically no better than the 18 month old HD2 if just one of these new phones had for example a front facing camera, 32gb nand memory or more... ive no doubt it would be everyones pick.

I think the Samsung Omnia is the best device, however its a shame that it only comes with 8GB memory and no way to expand it.

Phone Titan said:
I think the Samsung Omnia is the best device, however its a shame that it only comes with 8GB memory and no way to expand it.
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That's why the Venue Pro is better

Jim Coleman said:
That's why the Venue Pro is better
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I love this phone all except for slider if it was as slim as the HD7 I would not hesitate in getting one. The 4.1 AMOLED screen is just right and 16 GB memory will get me buy for now.

if i was patient enough i probably wuld have got the venue pro if it has 16gb

agp64 said:
I love this phone all except for slider if it was as slim as the HD7 I would not hesitate in getting one. The 4.1 super AMOLED screen is just right and 16 GB memory will get me buy for now.
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It's AMOLED without "Super". AFAIK, only Samsung phones have S-AMOLED display.

The chassis only stated minimums... The OEMS aren't building more expensive devices because they don't have to. When the OS has picked up and is selling more, then you'll see the superphones (The first Android phone was not an Evo)

rexian said:
It's AMOLED without "Super". AFAIK, only Samsung phones have S-AMOLED display.
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Sorry my mistake.[Fixed] I was just reading up on the difference and the super looks a fair bit better again.

will you upgrade to HTC DLX/DNA?

is it worth it the upgrade? im just curious about the s4pro chipset.. but HTC should give 32gb model.. only 16gb atm.. and a larger battery though 2500mah to 3000mah for the 1080 screen..

ayan15 said:
is it worth it the upgrade? im just curious about the s4pro chipset.. but HTC should give 32gb model.. only 16gb atm.. and a larger battery though 2500mah to 3000mah for the 1080 screen..
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Don't bother...cause HTC is going to release another version 1 month later with this statement "sorry losers we has to release another version but thanks for the money [email protected]#les
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ayan15 said:
is it worth it the upgrade? im just curious about the s4pro chipset.. but HTC should give 32gb model.. only 16gb atm.. and a larger battery though 2500mah to 3000mah for the 1080 screen..
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No.

I would wait til the end of next year to adopt the 2nd version of DNA with 4.2 pre-loaded. WIN

Never HTC again, I'm sick of the way they keep releasing new model with too slow upgrade for existing one

I really don't understand all you people. You bought a phone which suited your needs when you bought it. HTC promised to bring updates to this model and they will. If you compare it to other manufacturers, HTC isn't doing that bad. When you want instant updates you should have bought a nexus phone. And on the issue of bringing out new models, yes they did it before so stop wining. When did you ever believe a company who wants to make a profit on their promises. If the phone or the company isn't to your liking, sell the phone and get another one and stop bothering everyone who is happy with their phone.

doom_71 said:
I really don't understand all you people. You bought a phone which suited your needs when you bought it. HTC promised to bring updates to this model and they will. If you compare it to other manufacturers, HTC isn't doing that bad. When you want instant updates you should have bought a nexus phone. And on the issue of bringing out new models, yes they did it before so stop wining. When did you ever believe a company who wants to make a profit on their promises. If the phone or the company isn't to your liking, sell the phone and get another one and stop bothering everyone who is happy with their phone.
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:good:
Personally I think the DNA is too big, there's no way it would fit in my jeans pocket (the One X only just fits). I can't fault the quality of the screen on the One X and a 1080p on a 4.7" display would just be a waste.
My last 3 Android phones have been HTC because I like Sense. If it wasn't for Sense and the camera, then I would tempted by the LG Nexus with it's immediate updates, but for me personally Sense is worth the wait.

Personally ,I will weigh my options very carefully before committing to any HTC phone there will be a lot of waiting from my side to see how any new HTC handset will do. than I will decide ,will it be DNA ,dlx, csi or ncis I will wait NO more getting any new technology when it's first out for me ,I've learned my lesson NO more tegra chip phone ever ,no more phone with no sd card slot and no more phone with no battery access
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I will not be getting it until a better version is released I am looking to upgrade in Q2 2013. I like the DLX/DNA but I want 32/64gb, sd card and a bigger battery. I also want it to be water and dust resistant like the j butterfly. I also want the memory to be all one partition unlike the one x's memory with 2gb internal and a separate 32gb.
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1. I told myself to never buy another device without removable battery again. I thought I could live with it, but after that 10am 40% incident, no.
2. Also, I would have gotten the One XL if that herp derp have more than 16GB.
Conclusion: No.

No: I wont be buying another HTC device again.

The DLX is not real so far
my bet HTC will not release it globally in its current forum
CPU specs will be boosted as well as the storage for the international

hamdir said:
The DLX is not real so far
my bet HTC will not release it globally in its current forum
CPU specs will be boosted as well as the storage for the international
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Hopefully with a micro sd slot! I am sure, with that feature added most users will be back to HTC from Samsung & iPhone.

My next phone wont have the edges of the screen protruding from the shell. Then it wont smash so easilly. Crazy design. Style over substance in afraid.
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my next phone is nexus 4 htc never again. i had many htc devices since htc diamond but now htc faill to me

nirvanax said:
my next phone is nexus 4 htc never again.
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Good luck with the thermal throttling. Pretty sad when you have to put a device in the freezer to get the best performance out of it. I wouldn't even by an LG toaster.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Good luck with the thermal throttling. Pretty sad when you have to put a device in the freezer to get the best performance out of it. I wouldn't even by an LG toaster.
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Lool looking at these benchmarks its funny that the nexus 4 will still be faster and smoother then the DLX.
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the nexus 4 will still be faster and smoother then the DLX.
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"Faster and smoother" doesn't mean better. The GN had a dim display, crappy camera, and bad battery life. Did the fact that it was running stock Android make it a "better" device than either the SGS2 or SGS3? People who's entire world revolves around transitions and getting X.X.00002 the moment it's released should definitely buy Nexus devices. For people that use their devices to do something and want a device to help them be more productive Samsung and HTC devices with TW and Sense are better choices. And HTC does a better job with Sense than Samsung does with TW.
Here's a great example from the Note 10.1 forum. Here's list of what's on the Note 10.1 and missing from the N10. I'm sure we could make a similar list for the One X/One X+/DLX vs. the N4. As processors and GPUs have become more powerful than the OS and Apps that are running on them the need for "pure Google" is becoming less valuable other than for faster updates. And as Android's matured even the updates are becoming less meaningful. There's more to a device than just benchmarks, transitions, and updates and those other things are why I bought the One X in the first place and why I wouldn't hesitate to buy another HTC device.
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E-Mail Air View – Hover the pen over a heading or contents of an e-mail summary (including via the widget) to see an exploded view of the contents without opening it.
S-Planner Air View – Hover the pen over an event or task to see an exploded view without opening it.
Pop Up Note – Tap the screen twice with the S-Pen button depressed and a pop up note will be displayed. Even on the lock screen when the device is locked. On the N8000, if you’re in a call and remove the S-Pen from its holder, a pop up note automatically opens.
Easy Clip – Capture anything on the display (lasso) anywhere and save it to the clipboard or send it an application (including S-Note).
Draw/Write on an e-mail – As it says.
Draw/Write in S-Planner – As it says (Month View only)
Color Picker – In S-Note, set the ink color to a color selected from a picture.
Pen Switch – Select multiple pen types (color, texture, weight) and toggle through them without opening the menu by pressing the button on the S-Pen once.
Sketch Affect – Change any picture to an outline, color sketch, pencil sketch and more from within S-Note.
Share S-Notes – Convert S-Notes to plain text, PDFs, or pictures and share them via Facebook etc. in one step.
Photo Note – Write personal notes on the back of photos
Gallery Organizer – Create folders and drag and drop pictures between them.​

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BarryH_GEG said:
"Faster and smoother" doesn't mean better. The GN had a dim display, crappy camera, and bad battery life. Did the fact that it was running stock Android make it a "better" device than either the SGS2 or SGS3? People who's entire world revolves around transitions and getting X.X.00002 the moment it's released should definitely buy Nexus devices. For people that use their devices to do something and want a device to help them be more productive Samsung and HTC devices with TW and Sense are better choices. And HTC does a better job with Sense than Samsung does with TW.
Here's a great example from the Note 10.1 forum. Here's list of what's on the Note 10.1 and missing from the N10. I'm sure we could make a similar list for the One X/One X+/DLX vs. the N4. As processors and GPUs have become more powerful than the OS and Apps that are running on them the need for "pure Google" is becoming less valuable other than for faster updates. And as Android's matured even the updates are becoming less meaningful. There's more to a device than just benchmarks, transitions, and updates and those other things are why I bought the One X in the first place and why I wouldn't hesitate to buy another HTC device.
Standard features:
- Multiview
- Pop up play
- S-Pen/S-Note
- AllShare Play and Cast
- Enhanced camera features (smile/face/blink detection, buddy shot)
- Mini apps
- Enhanced audio and video codec support
- IR port
- Browser h/w acceleration
- S-Voice
- Air View
- Group Cast
- Quick Commands
New JB Features:
Video Air View – Preview videos without opening them. View future/past scenes in a playing video via the timeline without stopping it.
Photo Air View – Pictures contained in folders will display in thumbnails when you hover over the folder. They advance nine at a time.
E-Mail Air View – Hover the pen over a heading or contents of an e-mail summary (including via the widget) to see an exploded view of the contents without opening it.
S-Planner Air View – Hover the pen over an event or task to see an exploded view without opening it.
Pop Up Note – Tap the screen twice with the S-Pen button depressed and a pop up note will be displayed. Even on the lock screen when the device is locked. On the N8000, if you’re in a call and remove the S-Pen from its holder, a pop up note automatically opens.
Easy Clip – Capture anything on the display (lasso) anywhere and save it to the clipboard or send it an application (including S-Note).
Draw/Write on an e-mail – As it says.
Draw/Write in S-Planner – As it says (Month View only)
Color Picker – In S-Note, set the ink color to a color selected from a picture.
Pen Switch – Select multiple pen types (color, texture, weight) and toggle through them without opening the menu by pressing the button on the S-Pen once.
Sketch Affect – Change any picture to an outline, color sketch, pencil sketch and more from within S-Note.
Share S-Notes – Convert S-Notes to plain text, PDFs, or pictures and share them via Facebook etc. in one step.
Photo Note – Write personal notes on the back of photos
Gallery Organizer – Create folders and drag and drop pictures between them.​
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Woah buddy calm down I was just stating that overall nexus devices are faster. I never said it was better then any other phone. There's no need for a whole essay lol
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sent from either my one x or nexus 7. If anybody is selling or trading a note 2 then pm me