Hey there, I'm planning on picking up a WP7 phone to replace my old phone, most likely a hd7 or a trophy. After I unlock it, of course, would I be able to use it with Telus?
Thanks!
Of course, after you unlock it, as long as it has the approperiate 3G bands, specifically the 850/1900 bands, then you are able to use it on Telus. The problem is that neither the HD7 nor Trophy come with the approperiate bands. Your choices (for now) are limited to the LG Optimus, Quantum, Samsung Focus, HTC Surround, and I think that is about it.
Alright. In that case I guess i'll be picking up the Focus instead.
Thanks again!
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I was just looking at an unlocked TP2 on eBay and love the fact that it has the second CMOS camera. Sadly it is for ATT/TMobile and I dont want to jump ship from my Verizon and Sprint accounts. I know its a long shot but because both versions are world phones would it be possible to flash an ATT/TMobile or Rogers to Verizon or Sprint and it work?
The T-Mo TP2 is a GSM phone and won't work on Verizon or Sprint.
But the TP2 should be coming to Sprint and Verizon around the first week of September. Of course that means you'd have to reup your contract.
No, but the Verizon/Sprint/Telus models can work on ATT, Tmo, Rogers since they are cdma and gsm. Unfortunately that's not what you were looking for
YodaJM said:
The T-Mo TP2 is a GSM phone and won't work on Verizon or Sprint.
But the TP2 should be coming to Sprint and Verizon around the first week of September. Of course that means you'd have to reup your contract.
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The Verizon/Sprint version won't be comming with a second camera.
I know its "wishfull thinking" but.....I was hoping that all the band limitations were software based and all the hardware was inside. Possibly some way to hack it to use on any carrier. Like I said, wishful thinking.
Only the Europe models have the second camera. All the North American models only have the camera on the back.
And the Verizon/Sprint models won't work on AT&T/Tmo unless someone hacks the North American GSM lockout they claim is implemented.
Hey, Ive had the Htc Hero for a few weeks, and i was wondering if it was possible to make a hack or something so 3g will work on the us 3g bands. Or will we have to wait until they release a gsm unlocked north American Htc hero. Please get back soon.
You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
Im thinking this will show up on Roger's in Canada (uses AT&T Compatible 850/1900) before it actually shows up from AT&T.
Ebay.ca would be the way to go.
I believe it might show up on AT&T sooner than we all think
A version with AT&T 3G bands have already passed the FCC (as well as a version with EvDo bands for Sprint) so it looks like 2 North American carriers are poised for some Hero lovin'. Frankly, I'm ready for either an AT&T Hero or a Sprint Hero as I use both carriers.
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You'll have to wait because the HTC Hero only has the 900/2100 bands for 3G while the required bands are 850/1900 in the United States. Sorry.
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according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it should work with at&t and should not lock you into an expensive plan like the iphone if you get it unlocked.
agentkalaw said:
according to the htc site, the hero is quad band. I'm able to get a hero from asia and was wondering the same thing.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
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Quad band for GSM, not for HSDPA/WCDMA. Hero will currently work in the US, but Edge is the best you'll get.
Regards,
Dave
My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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My friends there is a US 3G that should hit the streets soon. its called HTC HERO 130(US). the Euro version is Htc Hero 100.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1966&c=htc_hero_us_htc_hero_130
Enjoy !
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Is this a fact?
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Ironically, yes and no!
It is called Hero, but it isn't the same Hero as we have in Europe.
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=220644&p=imageGalleryCategoryDetail&t=MI&MICategoryId=16507&
Spec wise, it is much the same (bands not withstanding), but I far prefer the look of the original Hero.
Regards,
Dave
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Thats the Hero 200 not the Hero 130.
Its just a matter of time before we can use it on AT&T Network
Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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Sorry guys, but the HTC Hero is exclusive to Sprint in the United States - http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/03/htc-hero-heading-to-sprint-october-11-for-179-99-no-chin/
Your best bet for a GSM Hero that works on AT&T's 3g is to wait for Rogers(GSM) in Canada to get it. Rogers has non google branded phones like the Magic(MyTouch 3g) and the Dream(G1). Thats just my thought and I could be wrong. But thats your last sign of hope for now. Plus Bell in Canada is getting the Palm Pre, so Rogers having a Hero is a nice fighting power to go against the Pre.
And lets put an end to this.... No European and Asian GSM HTC Hero will not have 3g in the US, only Edge!!! Theirs no hacks or anything that will work... We dont need more threads asking the same questions over and over.
One more thing came to mind. If AT&T and HTC take the SenseUI and put it onto a new android phone and called it something different.... Then you can have your Hero.. I dont see that happening this year. AT&T still has to release the Fortress(Touch Pro2) and Warhawk(Diamond2) still this year.
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No one is saying that ATT will get the HERO. We are saying that there will be 850Mhz WDMA version that works on ATT 3G network. It could be very much like you said Rogers Canada. again, there will be HERO 130 that supports ATT 3G network.
does anyone know if the sprint hero will be able to be rooted? i have heard that it will not be possible. please respond thank you.
850 3g ready!
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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This has been covered in this forum many many times already. You don't have to dig up old threads and then add in some wrong information.
The AT&T 3G capable (850/1900) Hero is carried by Canadian carrier Telus, NOT Rogers. The phone is available from their website directly for CAD$499 + tax, without contract. They don't ship outside Canada, and people have reported that their local Telus stores do not sell them without opening a line. Some said that it could be purchased without contract at BestBuy (in Canada of course).
A friend (who lives in Canada) of mine helped me to get one. It is unbranded, but sim locked to Telus. Unlock code can be purchased on eBay for slightly over 20 bucks. Mine now works with AT&T 3G flawlessly. Note that the difference between this Hero and the European Hero, is in hardware. No ROM flashing will enable 850/1900 for 3G on the European Hero.
sqc001 said:
http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1
It seems some people are wrong... there is a US 3g version of the Hero, as HTC does have a US 3g version of the magic/ mytouch (sold by Rogers)...
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BTW, the support of the band 850 alone will not enable a phone to use AT&T 3G network. It requires BOTH 850 and 1900 together.
Yup i'm from toronto and under contract with Rogers. I bought a Telus HTC Hero and unlocked it and it works perfect with Rogers. I took a trip down to NYC and it works on AT&T 3G with no problems.
850/1900 VS. 900/2100 for 3G
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
tomerbn said:
I belive that hardware wise - they're not really different.
we already saw in the past hacks (for WM phones) to "enable" more bands.
I believe that HTC blocks part of the bands to complete certification faster (FCC, ETSI etc), and it can be tricked... once we'll have "US 3G" radio, we'll be able to play with it, and compare to "Europenian 3G" radio.
Tomer
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Sorry but this is not the case. Rogers version of Dream and Magic have been out for long time already. Have you heard of any case where people can get European or T-Mobile versions of these phones to work on AT&T 3G?
1. The European Hero does not share the same hardware part number with the Telus Hero. The former is HERO100 and the latter is HERO130. Note that this part number is independent of the ROM installed. Asian Heros (Hong Kong, Taiwan, China etc), all have different ROMs but they are all HERO100.
2. Your "certification theory" is wrong. This type of certification doesn't work that way. Adding another chip to support 2 more bands won't delay the certification by months. Days, at most, if at all.
3. Continued from 2. The HERO100 was never sent to FCC for certification. I have both phones with me right now, and there is no FCC certification logo on the HERO100 hardware or on the box, while the FCC logo is easily spotted on the HERO130.
4. People on the other thread had report dialing problems flashing HERO100 radio rom onto HERO130. The problem went away by flashing a newer HERO100 (but no one knows where it came from) radio rom, although people are still reporting SMS problem with this radio rom on HERO130. This radio has been reported to work perfectly (indeed, a lot reported better reception) on HERO100. If the HERO100 and the HERO130 share the same hardware, the difference should go away by flashing the same rom. The fact that, with the same rom the HERO130 supports 850/1900 for 3G while the HERO100 doesn't, clearly indicate the difference in hardware.
While it is not impossible for cell phone manufacturers modify radio rom to restrict bands that their phones support, this is very uncommon (Can you name those WinMo device that you mentioned?). On the other hand, almost every cell phone model has various verisons of hardware to support different bands in different countries. A chip that supports fewer bands costs less. When there are enough demand to move sales, it is much more profitable to produce a region specific hardware with a cheaper chip than to write code to restrict the functionality of a more expensive chip that supports bands that that region never needs.
Hey Guys,
So I was trying to think, but I couldn't remember which carrier it was, but I'm almost positive that one of the Australian carriers uses the same 3g bands (HSDPA 850 and 1900) that AT&T uses, meaning you could import one of the phones heading toward that carrier in australia and use it on AT&T. I was thinking about doing this for WP7, but i completely forgot what carrier it is.
Does anyone know?
Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").
It's Telstra. Only the 850 band is supported. I have an Australian 9193 HD2 and it works fine on At&t. I guess it depends if your area has 850 band nearby.
FYI their HD7 won't be out till next year.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20101012/australian-pricing-options-for-windows-phone-7/
Are you guys sure? I was looking at the Mozart page on Telstra and it's doesn't say that the 850 hsdpa band is supported.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#detail=1573&filter=166
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Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").
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The Focus is 4". Idk if you were just talking about HTC or not
http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here
FSB said:
http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here
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Thanks! HTC & Microsoft must be using the global specs. So basically what this means is Mozart and HD7 for AT&T!! I'm pumped as hell now
Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.
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Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.
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Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...
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Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...
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I'm having this same predicament also. Though I can afford it, getting an HD7 through telstra will be around $800 or more...whereas I could just get the surround for retail value since I am not extending my contract with ATT.
I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.
FSB said:
I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.
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It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.
Any updates on HD7 on At&t? Perhaps an unbranded one or tmobile. Data and 3g?
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It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.
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Above is 100% true
850MHz & 2100MHz at minimum.
Optus uses 900MHz and 2100MHz
Unsure about the other carriers, but its likely 900/2100 also (i think Telstra is the odd one out here)
Sorry for revive the old thead; buy if someone is looking for a at&t-compatible device, (with UMTS850/1900), more than at&t "native" devices; please check:
http://bit.ly/mejores_equipos_latinoamerica
Best regards
And what phones are available?
I'm on T-Mobile in the US and I want to make sure I get the 3G speeds when I'm back in the states, so if I buy a phone when I'm out in Dubai, what are my options, and what should I get? The nice thing is that in Dubai everything is unlocked, so I just want to make sure I get something good.
I have liked the look of the Samsung Focus, and I guess it would be the Omnia in Asia. I don't care for a hardware keyboard.
Anyway, let me know if you do happen to know
It is not available for sale yet. Microsoft announced launch will be in UAE sometime in November but retailers have no idea when they will get stock.
i was under the impression that Dubai had GSM phones and once u go to US u would need a CDMA one.
Just not sure on this one so better check it out before u buy one
in the USA, they do both GSM and CDMA i think.
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in the USA, they do both GSM and CDMA i think.
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That is correct. AT&T and T-Mobile are the launch partners for WP7 and they use GSM. Verizon and Sprint are both CDMA based and they'll launch WP7 phones sometime in 2011.
As long as the phone has the 2100mhz band you should be fine. At&t uses 850 and tmobile uses 1700, but both make phones that will work on their networks and everyone else in the world.
Hello every1!
A friend just got his hands on his HTC HD7S from AT&T but, he is trying to use in another carrier here in Brazil but it can only make calls and use Edge network.
My HTC HD7(not the S one) is from TMobile and everything works fine here in brazil with same SIM card/Carrier.
I heard that Those HD7S from AT&T has a diff frequency and our carrier is not working with 3G at that frequency.
So, my question is:
Is there any way to help this friend and his HD7S to get 3G working on his device? Like for sample, flash a ROM(which one? Links?) that enable full range of frequencies like my HD7?
Thanks! I really appreciate the help. My friend is so sad that he cant use his phone well that I decided to help him.
Thanks a lot!
Best regards...
Gutemberg
Well, HD7 3g bands are different than hd7 3g bands, so I suppose the network you are trying to use is something like 900/1700 MHz on 3g. If so then it will not have 3g except if you use it in another carrier (a 850/1900MHz one)