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Does anyone know or have a list of some sort of current 3rd party apps that support the live tile function? Right now I know of only one, Weatherbug. I hope that twitter and Facebook add this function.
Although I did see a WP7 commerical with a samsung focus that highlighted a Twitter app (looked like the official twitter app) that had the number of new tweets show up on the tile.....maybe its a soon to be added feature.
I think that many developers is waiting until they get a better way of managing the live tiles, with animations and such as seen in the "native" tiles.
AP Mobile news app sort of has a live tile.
Sir. Haxalot said:
I think that many developers is waiting until they get a better way of managing the live tiles, with animations and such as seen in the "native" tiles.
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Solo devs will need a lowcost/free way to provide the needed services to make a live tile. Also, it's rather new to most people, so we'll probably see more live tiles in future generations.
Has there been any other new apps with live tiles?
So far I see
Weather Bug
The Weather Channel
GReadie (doesn't work for me)
HTC HUB (doesn't work for me)
Beezz (Doesn't work for me)
Flixter
just remember though... at the time of testing each app, a few different servers are involved and one could of been down and you should try again.
for example beezz goes from your phone to MS servers to beezz, to twitter. so if one link is stuffed, live tile is gone.
Would be great to have an active tile with spot gold/silver pricing. Thx.
What are you requesting? I am moving this to general for the time being.
~~Tito~~
Thanks Tito.
Am requesting an app that allows for an active tile where on the tile is text of the price of gold and silver. Due to being an active tile means you could set it to update said price every 10 minutes, minute, 10 seconds, etc. This way the tile shows you pricing updated at user set intervales.
Where would the feed come from?
Phone Titan said:
Where would the feed come from?
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There are many feeds/sources available from the Internet.
www.kitconet.com
www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/gold.php
www.stockmaster.in/gold.html
There is a taskbar version if you need to see more code
www.kitco.com/kcastwindows/
And MANY others.
There is also a Windows Sidebar app that shows gold and silver pricing if you need to see how they integrate the feed.
So the app could hook into various feeds (or just one like the Windows Sidebar). These are generally very stable financial feeds of course.
See attached sidebar app.
OK guys, I am starting an new project. I will be creating an hub similar to the HTC Hub - however it can not be so similar that is a direct copy. Please let me know in here any requests you guys have. I will continue to update this thread as I progress. The end version will be a paid version, however I will lower the price during a set period of time so that those who contribute will be able to grab a copy for 99 cents and those who do a substantial amount of help will get it free - I will code a secondary system in an update if I can not do this on the marketplace the way I want to. I will clean this post up after a couple of days and skim through the thread for features requested and make a mock-up.
Note: In order to pass certification it will be required that the back button exits the app, I can over-ride this and allow an exit through a settings panel to disable /re-enable.
Awesome... count me in to try this bad boy out!
I will move this to SW development since this is an ongoing project, once this is close to an actual product, PM me and I will move it back. IE beta.
~~Tito~~
In this hub:
1. Allow to add our own weather widget or clock
2. Don't want fancy animation like the one in HTC, very annoying. Some minor animation or transition effect will do
3. Allow to category the apps with zune UI concept. Critical feature as I don't want to keep putting all my apps in homescreen tiles or the second screen list of apps which is getting too long now. Should have option to choose to display the apps as in tiles layout or list or icon.
4. Option to put wallpaper in Hub background, just like our picture hub.
great idea !hope you will do differently than in htc
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What is the purpose of the hub going to be? and how can the rest of us developers plug into it?
I'd like to see a weather animation, if windows' hub's being pinned to the homescreen. Furthermore it would be nice, if you could implement sth that enables us to change the tile's size again if pinned to the homescreen.
Another "innovation" would be from my point of view, if the windows hub on the homescreen would open "another" fully customizable homescreen, i.e. you have your regular homescreen and in case you feel it is overloaded you reproduce your applications within the windows hub attached to the regular homescreen that opens another homescreen, very much like the folder solution implemented with iOs 4. "screw me"?
Love to get my stocks on there also.
Thanks
Marty
its great idea bro,cant wait for this,it will change history of wp7!!!!!!
Thanks for the ideas so far, keep em coming.
I would like to be able to see sports scores as part of the hub.
I can't seem to find a decent app for WP7 that handles these.
not sure about the htc hub, but in the samsung equivalent, there is a section on latest news. i dont like this as there arent much im interested in but if you could have a built in rss reader in the hub, that'd be awesome.
I'd like to see a messaging widget like the one on htc's sense for android. I'm not sure if its implementable though.
Just retrieving the messages and displaying it on a sense-like interface will do.
Im just so bored of reading messages in the wp7's plain messaging environment
A hub replacement for HTCs...Hmmm...My vote..
1. Weather (stream lined, 5-10 day forecast with good but fast images)
2. News (RSS feed?, AP news/MSNBC/CNN, to be able to customize page, local/country/subject, etc)
3. Stocks
4. Sports Scores/Stats/standings, also to be able to see all scores but, follow a team/sport, I'd love to see tons of options here
5. Custom RSS section, so you can add a few web pages that offer RSS feeds.
Sounds like a great idea I'll be following this one...
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A hub replacement for HTCs...Hmmm...My vote..
1. Weather (stream lined, 5-10 day forecast with good but fast images)
2. News (RSS feed?, AP news/MSNBC/CNN, to be able to customize page, local/country/subject, etc)
3. Stocks
4. Sports Scores/Stats/standings, also to be able to see all scores but, follow a team/sport, I'd love to see tons of options here
5. Custom RSS section, so you can add a few web pages that offer RSS feeds.
Sounds like a great idea I'll be following this one...
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+ 1000 with audio setting and visual equalizer
DavidinCT said:
A hub replacement for HTCs...Hmmm...My vote..
1. Weather (stream lined, 5-10 day forecast with good but fast images)
2. News (RSS feed?, AP news/MSNBC/CNN, to be able to customize page, local/country/subject, etc)
3. Stocks
4. Sports Scores/Stats/standings, also to be able to see all scores but, follow a team/sport, I'd love to see tons of options here
5. Custom RSS section, so you can add a few web pages that offer RSS feeds.
Sounds like a great idea I'll be following this one...
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Totally agree.
Also,
1. A comm manager? So it's easy to toggle radio/wifi/bluetooth on and off
2. A clock like HTC sense, with weather underneath (not the gay apps section which I don't use, if I want an app I use the market place or to launch an app I just slide right and down to the app I want to launch).
With all these ideas, They should be easy to navigate around, instead of creating hyperlinks, maybe make it so each page is a slide to the right, like the metro theme, this will look much easier and be much easier to use rather than using hyperlinks!
if you need something graphic,im in,just pm me
good project! if you want a people for translating in italian , contact me
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Totally agree.
Also,
1. A comm manager? So it's easy to toggle radio/wifi/bluetooth on and off
2. A clock like HTC sense, with weather underneath (not the gay apps section which I don't use, if I want an app I use the market place or to launch an app I just slide right and down to the app I want to launch).
With all these ideas, They should be easy to navigate around, instead of creating hyperlinks, maybe make it so each page is a slide to the right, like the metro theme, this will look much easier and be much easier to use rather than using hyperlinks!
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One thing I would love... Make the "live tile" customizable by content.
For Example, during the day it could show weather based on GPS but, during a baseball game(or pick your sport), it will update with current scores on the second and a click of the tile during a game will bring you right to your sports page.
This could work the Same for a few stocks during trading hours but, one the market is closed, go back to a default of weather (an example)
Custom Content where you need it, when you need it.
I think when you click on the tile (AKA open the Hub) it should go into a Weather/Time/Wi-fi/blu-tooth settings/status... kind of a status page but, a flip will bring you to different content.
Just trying to come up with ideas for this. Hope this helps !
DavidinCT said:
A hub replacement for HTCs...Hmmm...My vote..
1. Weather (stream lined, 5-10 day forecast with good but fast images)
2. News (RSS feed?, AP news/MSNBC/CNN, to be able to customize page, local/country/subject, etc)
3. Stocks
4. Sports Scores/Stats/standings, also to be able to see all scores but, follow a team/sport, I'd love to see tons of options here
5. Custom RSS section, so you can add a few web pages that offer RSS feeds.
Sounds like a great idea I'll be following this one...
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Yes me too.
Hey everyone!
Now that most of you have tasted mango.. do you guys felt any difference about push notifications?
I didn't have any app with broken push, and everything is working fine BUT live tiles.
Sometimes I open the app, see the news and when I come back to home screen, the tile still there with the number of notifications that it has before.
I had the same problem with NoDo and thought it was going to be solved with Mango.
I'm not a developer so I don't know. I didn't read that everyone would need to adapt their apps to the new mango push system. Just read that push would work properly.
So.. developers will need to modify their apps to mango push?
Btw, does anybody knows if with mango will be allowed custom sounds to push notifications? It sucks to hear the same ring to every push you have. It's ok when the app doesnt include the sound, use a default one. But it's great to have different sounds to every app you have.
Thank you guys.
I am not aware of a new Mango push notification system. Though maybe I missed something.
I thought the major change for Mango was that Background Agents would allow applications in the background to update tiles and show toast messages. This means developers can do live tiles without having to have a web server setup and without using the actual push notification system.
Nop!
The whole push system would be revamped, as far as I know. And this should solve all push notifications problems, and turn it reliable.
Now I'm at mango and didn't miss a single push. But Live Tiles still with problems.
I know that this is a beta. Just sharing my problem.
Re Notification in general...
Mango has much improved the notification system with tile flipping. I still would like to see a central place for ALL notifications (not just social) but it's a good start.
I had lots of issues with tiles not updating correctly and still showing data even though they should have been dismissed already. I can't even count how many times I deleted the related keys in the registry. Now with Mango everything works like a charm. Toast, live tiles, dismissing. I even have more live tiles pinned to the start screen than with NoDo. It sometimes just takes larger amount of time before a live tile becomes updated. But I since this seems to be app specific, I guess they just use a longer update frequency there.
It has been a long time since I posted here, because I sold my Windows Mobile Smartphone and gotten a Blackberry. Right now, I have a few features I would want Microsoft to add in the next major update of windows Phone, because I'm tempted to return to the Windows Phone party soon.
1. Home Screen Notifications
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I have this idea that when you swype from the left of the start screen, the notifications appear like in Windows8.
2. Notification when in Hubs/Apps
This pull-down notification bar (a la android) can be featured in the Hubs and applications which uses both the leeft and right swyping gestures. This allow quick access to the important informations without returning to the start screen.
3. Custom Start screen background
This allows users to add a custom background to the start screen, making the whole look of the OS more appealing.
4. Live Lockscreen
This allows users to see inportant informations on their lockscreen, and the lockscreen wallpaper changes according to current weather reports.
THATS ALL FOR NOW, I WILL ADD MORE WHEN I HAVE MORE SUGGESTIONS
I love the idea of the lockscreen wallpaper changes depending on weather, I already really love it displaying pictures of the current artist playing, I think they really need to consider this route.
As for custom backgrounds, I wish I had a custom background but I can see why they've avoided it so far. Windows mobile is about simplicity of the display, having a white or black background draws attention straight to the live tiles and makes them look powerful. However, it couldn't hurt to give us the option could it?
I'm not a fan of the notification hub ideas. I kinda like them with android but me and android have never gotten along. I think all the info that you could display can be represented by live tiles, that way you only see the information you want to. If you did have a hub that comes from the side, I think it would steal a bit of the glory from the live tiles, after all, that is one of wp7s strongest points. I know iPhone fanboys who drool everytime they hold the phone, telling me how much they wish that the iPhone interface was as nice and as informative as the homescreen on wp7. But once more, it couldn't hurt to have the option. The question is, are we getting a brand new OS (ie windows 8) to have this feature, or will Microsoft just give us a further update to bring the features?
One feature I'd really like to look forward to is built in Skype support (which should come eventually). I want it to be part of the operating system, so I don't need to open an app to receive a call. Just like the Facebook messenger built in.
After all, you know what's more powerful that the 'there's an app for that' statement - you want to Skype someone? 'You don't even need an app for that!'
wow.. weather idea super.. I saw a link somewhere in this forums to tell wishlist to MS. good idea to post there if they consider.
Not sure how much I'd support that live lockscreen for weather idea. I'd love to see a metro-ish idea, such as a small text-like icon next to the time, sort of the like the alarm icon. That weather is too Android-like and exactly why I hate Android. The wallpaper is live already in relation to Zune too.
Notification idea is a great and sought after idea. Though, the way I think Microsoft sees it is that most app with notifications will be pinned to the homescreen or should be in their minds, which is why they didn't even touch the system. They figure your homescreen is your notification screen. But swiping the other way, or going up would be a great idea. Maybe if you drag the screen it'll drop a volume-style drawer with notification alerts.
And ew to the custom homescreen background lol. I think the tiles work best without a background.
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Though, the way I think Microsoft sees it is that most app with notifications will be pinned to the homescreen or should be in their minds, which is why they didn't even touch the system. They figure your homescreen is your notification screen.
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Then why did they bother implementing toast notifications as part of the OS?
But even with that aside, the problem with the "start screen as notification screen" idea is that even with flippable live tiles, they only display the most recent notification. Anything older than that is lost. And, of course, many (most) 3rd party apps don't display text at all on their live tiles, just tickers and images.
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And ew to the custom homescreen background lol. I think the tiles work best without a background.
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Don't like it? Don't use it. Many people would love to have a splash of color behind their live tiles.
I like those pictures, however I think the notifications are fine the way they are, I still manage to keep up with all the notifications in my apps by using the start screen. I also agree of the idea that backgrounds will distract from the live tiles.
First off, good work on the presentation.
I don't like the notifications idea. The way I'd like to see it implemented (which I've already voiced, loudly, to the team) is to simply have them aggregated in the notifications area of the "me" tile. It's the perfect spot for archived toasts and it would quickly give you an indication on what's happened using the "me" live tile.
Secondly, I don't see a need for a separate "notifications if in app/hub" system. If you're already using the phone when a toast comes in you'll have seen it at the top of the screen. If you're not [actively] using the phone, you're not in an app anyway so the "me" tile takes care of you. Just have certain on-device events toastable (such as email received) and you're good to go. Even without all events coming in as toasts having them all aggregated in "me" would work due to the fast-app-switching.
In addition, allow a certain number of apps to register for "on-lockscreen" capabilities. Where it would add an icon, counter and/or message to the lockscreen.
As for the customizable backgrounds. I'd probably not use it myself as it takes away from the live tiles and the way they pop out on a completely white background, but I can definitely see most people wanting this feature.
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I don't like the notifications idea. The way I'd like to see it implemented (which I've already voiced, loudly, to the team) is to simply have them aggregated in the notifications area of the "me" tile. It's the perfect spot for archived toasts and it would quickly give you an indication on what's happened using the "me" live tile.
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The "me" tile is a social networking tile. Many of the toasts from 3rd party apps have nothing to do with social networking. It would feel awkward to me to put them there.
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As for the customizable backgrounds. I'd probably not use it myself as it takes away from the live tiles and the way they pop out on a completely white background, but I can definitely see most people wanting this feature.
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I don't know that I would use it either, but having the option would be a good thing.
good idea :X
RoboDad said:
Don't like it? Don't use it. Many people would love to have a splash of color behind their live tiles.
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I was giving my opinion, don't like it, don't respond to it, I never said not to implement it. Im really beginning to regret every time I see your name and still read your post. I feel bad for RoboChildren and RoboWife
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FiyaFleye said:
I was giving my opinion, don't like it, don't respond to it, I never said not to implement it. Im really beginning to regret every time I see your name and still read your post. I feel bad for RoboChildren and RoboWife
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No, you didn't say not to implement it. But your post came across slightly condescending, as if anyone who would like that feature just doesn't "get" WP7.
And for the record, I really don't appreciate you making any comments about my family. That is the type of schoolyard taunt that a 10-year-old throws around.
Some thoughts on my own
I also think that the main menu needs some coloring.
And an app grouping will be great
Tried to recreate it with HTML and javascript, you can check it out at: hxxp://blog.conquex.com/wp/ (can't add external link sry)
Bluetooth FTP , Full Unlock from buy(so you can native code on it) and a file explorer that was it
I would like the ability to go to notification directly from the lock screen and the lock screen should show 3rd party app notifications not just windows
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The "me" tile is a social networking tile. Many of the toasts from 3rd party apps have nothing to do with social networking. It would feel awkward to me to put them there.
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But that's only because of it's current implementation. It should really be a "me" tile rather than a "social" tile. IMO anything "me" related should go to it - including app toasts as well as missed calls, messages etc.
emigrating said:
But that's only because of it's current implementation. It should really be a "me" tile rather than a "social" tile. IMO anything "me" related should go to it - including app toasts as well as missed calls, messages etc.
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I agree. The "Me" tile should show all the notifications for the phone. If they are on the start screen, I have the option to go directly to the app, or I can go to the "Me" tile and get a link directly to the certain part of the app that the notification was about. For example, on words by post, if I get a toast notification saying another player made move, I can go to the "Me" tile, and a link should take me directly to the game so I can make a move, not just open the app so I have to navigate to my game.
But to me (no pun intended ), that is still a social notification, in that it affects my ability to interact with other people. I don't think a notification about a weather forecast, or a stock market alert, or an upcoming episode of a TV show, fit the same criteria.
Microsoft made it a Social Network tile, because they didn't want to handle more panes in the People Hub for it. Android (TW 3.0) fixes that by putting your "Me" Hub under a menu. WP7 takes the easier route and just makes a tile for it.
Fussing over what the Me Tile is gets us no where.
The issue is what should be discussed, and it's obvious. The notification system in WP7 is bad. It's way too fragmented and it's much too tedious. A Notification cache is needed. This isn't a feature phone that gets hardly any pushed updates. It's a smartphone and every smartphone OS that has grown a healthy app market and embraced PUSH Updates and Notifications without one has run into issues and eventually (like Apple) had to implement one.
1. Allow Apps intelligent use of the LED Notification Light (Different Colors for Notifications, etc. similar to Blackberries)
2. Global Notification Cache - Swipe Right on Home Screen to get to it (Similar to iOS, but Notifications instead of Search, before someone says anything... swiping down has already been dong, as has swiping up in addition to other gestures... Not much choice, it just needs to be done.).
3. Zune Social... Where is it? They missed the ball on this one... It had potential in WP7, but I think it may be a bit late to try to resurrect it, now.
4. Flash LITE, or the ability to stream Flash Video in the video player. Show the boxes, and let it open up in the player like on YouTube. Don't care about Ads, Navigational Elements, or Games. Just the video.
5. Bluetooth File Transfer - at least Contact Info, Multimedia, Office Documents. Don't care about file explorer. It can add them to the necessary hubs by file type.
6. Video MMS/Email.
7. Video, and Voice Clip transfer for WLM.
8. Video Chat for WLM - Back and Front Cam (obviously 1st gen devices would default to back cam, new devices can switch). Skype won't do. Most consumers don't even care about Skype unless they use it for calling. They just use WLM or some other IM service like FB or Yahoo! instead.
9. Delivery Confirmations and/or S/D/R in Windows Live Messenger (Similar to BBM/Kik).
10. Facebook Offline Messages and Twitter Direct Messages pushed and integrated into one of the Social or Email Hubs (Probably Me) - with Toast Notifications.
11. Official Support for External SD Cards - Obviously they won't be Hot-Swappable...
12. Hand-Off GPS Navigation.
13. Integrate Zune and Windows Phone services with Windows Media Player. Shouldn't need to install Zune. Mac Users don't need to install iTunes to manage their iDevices. Never understood the need for this redundant piece of software, especially when it's Audio/Video Playing features are so terrible compared to WMP or iTunes.
14. Software EQ built into WP7.
15. Integrated DLNA functionality (at least for WMP/WMC/XBox360).
16. Ability to set different Notification Tones for Notifications in different Apps.
There's more
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Microsoft made it a Social Network tile, because they didn't want to handle more panes in the People Hub for it. Android (TW 3.0) fixes that by putting your "Me" Hub under a menu. WP7 takes the easier route and just makes a tile for it.
Fussing over what the Me Tile is gets us no where.
The issue is what should be discussed, and it's obvious. The notification system in WP7 is bad. It's way too fragmented and it's much too tedious. A Notification cache is needed. This isn't a feature phone that gets hardly any pushed updates. It's a smartphone and every smartphone OS that has grown a healthy app market and embraced PUSH Updates and Notifications without one has run into issues and eventually (like Apple) had to implement one.
1. Allow Apps intelligent use of the LED Notification Light (Different Colors for Notifications, etc. similar to Blackberries)
2. Global Notification Cache - Swipe Right on Home Screen to get to it (Similar to iOS, but Notifications instead of Search, before someone says anything... swiping down has already been dong, as has swiping up in addition to other gestures... Not much choice, it just needs to be done.).theres nothing wrong with the current notifications system. people need to stop complaining about it and just pin all those apps to the start screen I think that when all apps are updated for mango it will be easier to get the notifications.
3. Zune Social... Where is it? They missed the ball on this one... It had potential in WP7, but I think it may be a bit late to try to resurrect it, now.
4. Flash LITE, or the ability to stream Flash Video in the video player. Show the boxes, and let it open up in the player like on YouTube. Don't care about Ads, Navigational Elements, or Games. Just the video.
just use html5 it works great on YouTube,dailymotion and tube8. flash is dying out.
5. Bluetooth File Transfer - at least Contact Info, Multimedia, Office Documents. Don't care about file explorer. It can add them to the necessary hubs by file type.
I don't think I've ever used this or know anyone who has. never really worked that well when I tried it.
6. Video MMS/Email.
you can email videos.
7. Video, and Voice Clip transfer for WLM.
this is already present and it has already been demonstrated
8. Video Chat for WLM - Back and Front Cam (obviously 1st gen devices would default to back cam, new devices can switch). Skype won't do. Most consumers don't even care about Skype unless they use it for calling. They just use WLM or some other IM service like FB or Yahoo! instead.
9. Delivery Confirmations and/or S/D/R in Windows Live Messenger (Similar to BBM/Kik).
10. Facebook Offline Messages and Twitter Direct Messages pushed and integrated into one of the Social or Email Hubs (Probably Me) - with Toast Notifications.
I can receive some offline messages from Facebook in the current iteration, can't reply to them but I get them.
11. Official Support for External SD Cards - Obviously they won't be Hot-Swappable...
12. Hand-Off GPS Navigation.
13. Integrate Zune and Windows Phone services with Windows Media Player. Shouldn't need to install Zune. Mac Users don't need to install iTunes to manage their iDevices. Never understood the need for this redundant piece of software, especially when it's Audio/Video Playing features are so terrible compared to WMP or iTunes.
it takes up less RAM than iTunes and doesn't demand that u also have bonjour,QuickTime and safari installed (uninstall one of those and see what happens to ur precious iTunes)
14. Software EQ built into WP7.
15. Integrated DLNA functionality (at least for WMP/WMC/XBox360).
16. Ability to set different Notification Tones for Notifications in different Apps.
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my replies to the points I strongly disagree with are in bold.
Sorry buddy I can't read your posts.