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Quick question, for those of you who have used tethering, do your carriers charge you extra over your cellphone data plan? I am planning on getting this phone and Softbank are saying that when tethered to a computer, internet traffic to/from the computer will be charged separately - around $100 for 100mb.
How are the carriers able to detect that there is a phone tethered, and is there a way to hide it, so it looks like the data is coming from the phone.
Thanks!
jeeez 100$ for 100mb :O
most of the providers wont charge you anything if you go over the limit couple times, if it will repeat they will limit the time you can access the internet.
my friend used tethering from his nokia n85/86 not sure which one and orange didnt charge him anything extra
My main concern is how they can detect that the data is coming/going to the computer and not the phone. Anybody out there with ideas?
hmm
In short, they can't tell the difference. I've been tethering for years, with 3, Vodafone and T-Mobile, and they have never said a thing. I've downloaded video from usenet, bittorents, ftp and iPlayer and far exceeded the fair use policies. Still, not a murmur.
If they did try to monitor where the data was going to, it would be a fairly simple matter to get around it, so I guess they don't bother.
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In short, they can't tell the difference. I've been tethering for years, with 3, Vodafone and T-Mobile, and they have never said a thing. I've downloaded video from usenet, bittorents, ftp and iPlayer and far exceeded the fair use policies. Still, not a murmur.
If they did try to monitor where the data was going to, it would be a fairly simple matter to get around it, so I guess they don't bother.
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You're lucky!
I once downloaded 8 GB overnight (thought I was using wi-fi ) and got an angry letter from T-Mobile saying if I do it again they will cap me ... That was ... 2 years ago and I have upgraded since then and migrated contracts, I wonder if it still stands ...
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I once downloaded 8 GB overnight
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Ok, so maybe 8GB in one night is just a little bit excessive. Impressive, but excessive ;-)
Maybe just stick with the SD versions when tethered from now on...
profet said:
Ok, so maybe 8GB in one night is just a little bit excessive. Impressive, but excessive ;-)
Maybe just stick with the SD versions when tethered from now on...
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Blame the uni wi-fi! Since then I'm afraid to even get to 500 MB!
Don't your providers cap your speed when exceeding a specific limit?
Here in germany you will get capped when u exceed your limit, like 200, 500, 1000, 2000 or 5000MB /month. Then you only get GPRS-speed.
Sucks, but better than paying 100$ and i never ever used more than 500mb a month, yet.
I suppose once I get the phone, I will download a 10mb file, and see if they change the billing. Better to be safe than end up with a crazy bill.
I have always assumed they didn't know you were tethering, but every time I ask someone from Softbank they are adamant that I will be charged excessively for tethering use - and they do not offer a flat rate amount for tethered data.
Hey, I am also in Japan. Just got my Desire and was thinking of tethering ... Any result from your test? Extra charges?
Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
can anyone advise (please) ?
I dunno the answer but how much are the charging for the phone?
If you go direct through T-Mobile you get 3 gig of data but through other sites its only 1 gig.
the phone is free, £3.99 delivery.
Try phoning T-Mobile up, go for the 18 month £25 plan, 600 mins, 500 texts, 3gb internet, flexible booster (unlim texts or something else) and tell them that the same deal is online with a free phone.
If it doesn't work hang up and try again. Eventually it either will work or you'll be able to get a reduction in the handset price.
I got mine on launch day with T-Mobile 300 mins/texts 3 gig data usage and unlimited landlines, got them to wave the cost of the phone so got it free on £25 a month for 24 months.
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Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
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Hi, What I would do is get the £15 a month , 300 mins, unlimited texts and internet. It will cost £130 for the phone - totaling £490.
Then you get £40 cashback - which is therefore the same cost as your phone. And for 6 extra months so if you wanted to change it after £18 months it would still be the same cost
And no you are not being over cautious
Just to clarify this for people:
I've been trying to figure out why my HSDPA data speed was so slow (looked like throttled to ~350kbps d/l speed).
It appears that buying via MPD and T-Mobile with "unlimited" data (at least on the £25/month tariff I chose) you are only put on the standard 1Gb FUP data plan. This also has speed restrictions (which I read about elsewhere - and is definitely true since I've experienced it first-hand).
I was under no impression from MPD that I was getting only 1Gb, and it was never mentioned anywhere - all the literature on the web re: Android phones and T-Mobile UK imply we all should be on the 3Gb - which also included no speed throttle.
I just called T-Mobile and made the case - they first tried to get me to pay an extra £5 a month to be put onto the 3Gb, but I persisted mentioning that ANY Android phone bought now with a T-Mobile contract should be on the 3Gb FUP product.
After a bit of to-ing and fro-ing they agreed and changed me over instantly. I also got to choose a free booster since the 3Gb one is included in the plan...
Stick to your guns and you should get a result - don't let them try to make you pay for it - it's MPD's fault for not making it clear, and I argued that since my contract is with T-Mob and not them I should be on the same product as anyone who bought with T-Mobile direct...
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Not sure if anyone can help .....
I'm looking at a £25 per month, 18 month contract (300 mins, unlimited texts) and unlimited data.
Sounds goods.
But, my main concern is the data. I've spoken to them this evening and they assure me that as it is an Android device that it will have the standard tmobile 3gb fair usage allowance.
I'm concerned that, despite what they say, that it will default to the standard non-Android 1gb fair usage policy as they are effectively selling it as a non-standard deal ?
Am I being over cautious ??!?!?
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get the one from mobilephonesdirect its unlocked and u will get updates first
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T-mobile cant do anything since its advertised as ultd so have fun remember its fair usage they cant chage u anything extra if u go over
I also purchased via MPD.
At the time of ordering, I tried to get an answer from MPD on what TMobile FUP I would get, they assured me that I'd get 3gnarled, although I was not convinced.
When connected, I checked with TMobile and confirmed that I had my flexible booster setup to use the unlimited internet with 1gb FUP.
Didn't really think much of it until today.
Just spoken to the Loyalty Team and argued my case. They have now upgraded me to use the 3gb FUP and allowed me to use my flexible booster for something else.
Also, speedtest app is now returning an average download speed of 1900 kbps rather than 350 kbps.
Very happy !!!
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Excellent! Mine jumped (in a poor signal area - only 1-2 bars) from 350kbps to @1.5Mbps which is pretty good. Will check when I'm in London at work tomorrow - I reckon it should be even higher.
MPD have been a bit shoddy up until now what with the stock problems and non-registration of SIMs (I had to register mine myself since I'd been waiting a number of days for MPD to do anything about it).
Has anyone had anything in writing from MPD saying that they would definitely be on the 3Gb FUP? I can't find any mention of it on their site...(actually, I can't find anything about *any* FUP on T-Mobile plans).
Since it's not mentioned by MPD that the "unlimited mobile internet" is an add-on, I think it's perfectly safe to assume it's "included" with the plan which in T-Mobile's language means that it's 3Gb straight away for Android devices.
I can't see how T-Mobile can argue any other way when anyone buying direct gets the 3Gb without even asking for it...the contracts are almost (and in some cases) exactly the same amount...
Does it matter?
I got one from MPD yesterday, read this message and called TMobile who say
a) the allowance is for all intents and purposes the same, eg 1gb or 3gb, they don't count it unless you overshoot it dramatically
b) no throttling is applied, any issues experienced are with the quality of the connection
Are both these points correct?
Should I persist complain? I agree nothing was said about this in any of MPD's literature.
Beware MPD
I too have had problems with MPD. They have sent the wrong memory card. Their customer service is terrible. The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
Contacted T-Mobile as others did and got the flexible booster switched to texts. But to get HSDPA speed I had to have the unlimited internet booster added for £5. Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge. Threaten to leave and they offered me 3 months free then £5 a month for last 15 months. So can complain too much as the Phone was free from MPD, whereas it £157 for T-Mobile on the same contract.
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Depends on if you plan on using your phone for what it's intended, and wish to get nearer to the cell connectivity speeds it's capable of supporting...I wouldn't want to be stuck with an expensive piece of hardware and only being able to use a fraction of its capacity in terms of download speeds...going from ~350kbps to only 1.5Mbps is a more than four-fold increase...
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a) the allowance is for all intents and purposes the same, eg 1gb or 3gb, they don't count it unless you overshoot it dramatically
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This is likely the case - 1Gb is a fair bit, but it's not impossible to go over it if you're using the phone intensively without a WiFi connection (things like downloading multiple podcasts with Google Listen - lots of Maps, e-mail and YouTube usage etc.)
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b) no throttling is applied, any issues experienced are with the quality of the connection
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This is a fallacy. T-Mobile will tell you there is no speed restriction each time you speak to them, and say the connections are contended (which *is* true) but there clearly is massive throttling for regular Web 'n Walk (1Gb) users - look at this thread for more evidence from others outside this forum.
As others have attested, as soon as they apply the Web 'n Walk Plus (3Gb) and remove the "unlimited internet flexible booster" which is what MPD customers seem to have all received, if you are already in an HSDPA area after a phone reboot your speed WILL increase immediately. There are no coincidences here!
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Should I persist complain? I agree nothing was said about this in any of MPD's literature.
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I certainly did, and would urge others to - I might have to do it again soon since my wife may order a Desire on the same deal...I prefer to have an unlocked unbranded handset, going through T-Mobile direct (despite the fact you'd have to haggle to get the same deal as on MPD) doesn't guarantee an unlocked/unbranded phone.
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The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
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I was also told that my "new" SIM bundled with the MPD order had been previously registered to another user...the connections team sorted it in a flash, however...
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Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge.
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That doesn't sound correct. I would have pushed further - they are wrong, not you. Argue that it had been incorrectly provisioned when the connection was set up, and as per the standard T-Mobile FUP (quote it from the website to them), users starting new contracts with new Android devices at the same time are obliged to be on the 3Gb Web 'n Walk Plus bundle...
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I too have had problems with MPD. They have sent the wrong memory card. Their customer service is terrible. The £25 contract with 300 mins and 300 texts turns out the internet is restricted to 356kbps as the sim was registered to a Nokia phone?
Contacted T-Mobile as others did and got the flexible booster switched to texts. But to get HSDPA speed I had to have the unlimited internet booster added for £5. Argued to case that I should have the speed but the would not budge. Threaten to leave and they offered me 3 months free then £5 a month for last 15 months. So can complain too much as the Phone was free from MPD, whereas it £157 for T-Mobile on the same contract.
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I was lead to believe that the internet was a part of this contract and nothing to do with the flexible boosters.
I received my phone last Tuesday, does anyone know if today would count as part of my 7 days cooling off period or would that have ended yesterday?
edit: i would as its 7 working days.
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I was lead to believe that the internet was a part of this contract and nothing to do with the flexible boosters.
I received my phone last Tuesday, does anyone know if today would count as part of my 7 days cooling off period or would that have ended yesterday?
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your 7 days should end on Thursday's end of business day.
7 days cooling period are working days, it start the next working day when you received the phone and they do not count weekend. This is what I was inform when I replaced my Desire.
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your 7 days should end on Thursday's end of business day.
7 days cooling period are working days, it start the next working day when you received the phone and they do not count weekend. This is what I was inform when I replaced my Desire.
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cheers, i know MPD say you have 14 days but thats with everything in its original packaging etc so want to make sure they dont try and wriggle out using that as an excuse.
Phoned TMobile again.
Phone was registered as a Nokia
They say the price plan is between me and MPD aka Go Away
They say that 3gb and 1gb amounts to no practical difference
They say that a 1gb d/l limit has no throttling back compared to 3gb
(is the throttling just on H?)
So, do I try to take the phone back to MPD and pay the extra £45? What's their return policy and do I have to factory set the phone to erase data, etc?
What would Old Hands here do?
I bought a desire through MPD and my bill says I have an "Internet Booster (FB)" package applied (for free).
Before I call up T-Mobile can someone just confirm to me that...
1) This is incorrect
2) What I should have is 'web&walk plus'
3) 'web&walk plus' is the only way to get HSPDA connectivity?
Have many people been successful in getting their account corrected? Or am I fighting a losing battle before I start!?
Just curious how data heavy WP7 is. Anyone checked their usage? I realize we can't see a solid month yet, but at the least we might be able to see some trends
TMoUS doesn't make this easy to determine, they give you all your data sessions, you'd have to add them all up to find out it seems. Their own total says 0
It's extremely data heavy if you're a Zune Pass subscriber, and stream lots of music.
Not really compatible with AT&T's new 2GB data plans, IMO, and even a 5GB cap is cutting it close if you listen to a lot of music - prolly won't even be enough for many people.
If they thought the iPhone was taxing their network, just wait until they have lots of people on their phones streaming Zune Pass music, in Addition to all the iPhone/iPad users.
I do most of my data consumption over wifi, but I don't try to slow it down when on-network, though the connection speed usually drops (except when I'm in ATL or Charlotte)
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It's extremely data heavy if you're a Zune Pass subscriber, and stream lots of music.
Not really compatible with AT&T's new 2GB data plans, IMO, and even a 5GB cap is cutting it close if you listen to a lot of music - prolly won't even be enough for many people.
If they thought the iPhone was taxing their network, just wait until they have lots of people on their phones streaming Zune Pass music, in Addition to all the iPhone/iPad users.
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Good call on the Zune pass. I imagine a lot of people on att are gonna be getting some big bills next month. They really need to add another tier to their data plans.
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ckacey: You simply don't use your phone that much as far as data goes. Do you even have Zune Pass?
When I was on AT&T I had a Samsung Jack to start, and I'd do solidly above 300MB on that phone. keep in mine, I had 0 (zilch, none) AT&T reception at my house, so all my data usage was outside the house - about 15 miles away is when I'd get any AT&T 3G coverage. I switch to an Aria (well they upgraded me for free because of my reception issues... not that it made a difference...) and my data usage went up above 500MB a month - likely due to the better YouTube Player application and a better web browser, in addition to more services integrated with the phone (Facebook, Twitter, FourSquares, etc.).
Again, with no AT&T reception anywhere near me.
With T-Mobile I dont' get any 3G here (but I can at least make calls and get 'G' reception) and I do over a Gig.
In a 3G area with a WP7 device I'd probably do tripple that over a month due to Zune Pass streaming and downloading.
2G is going to cut it close for a lot of people on AT&T. 5G will be enough on T-Mobile and later Sprint/Verizon for most people, but people who use the hell out of their devices as glorified Zune HDs will probably run into trouble especially when you couple everything else they do on the phone.
Especially those that don't spend as much time in front of a computer like me.
WiFi isn't everywhere (maybe for some people, but not for a majority of us) and in many cases the 3G connection is faster than what you'd get off WiFi (i.e. using a Vibrant or 3G WP7 device in an HSPA+ market will often net you faster speeds unless you have getting WiFi off a Fibre or very high speed connection).
Each song you stream off Zune Pass is probably about 4-5MB data, accounting for perhaps a lower streaming bitrate since I see most of the ones I downloaded are in the 5-8 MB range in size.
I have about 350gb of Zune pass content on my laptop. I've been a subscriber since Urge got cancelled and sold my account to Rhapsody (I can't stand Real Networks) unfortunately WiFi isn't everywhere we need it and cell coverage is less than ideal.
My phone is a satellite to my PC, I'd say it burns through about 1-3gb of non USB traffic each month. My Xbox and PC are the real hogs and I don't know how people put up with a capped home connection.
I've used 55.58MB of data so far (had it since it launched). That's only because I have wifi almost everywhere I go (home, work, school). I love the turn of data button
17mb since i got my wp7, most of the time, i'm on wifi ... i knew i shouldn't of unsubscribed from the tmobile tv service just yet .
This is all great info. Thanks so much to everyone that's replied thus far.
With my Sprint Palm Pre I find that I burn through 1-1.5GB per month. Mostly from streaming podcasts and web surfing when away from home.
WP7 could be a totally different animal for me though. I have a Zune HD and Zune Pass. I've long loved the idea of having a Zune phone and the possibility of having access to the Marketplace anywhere I go. I spent some time with a Samsung Focus at an AT&T store this week and loved it. However, the 2GB cap on their new tiered plan is of major concern to me. I don't like the idea of having to be conservative with my data usage :/
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This is all great info. Thanks so much to everyone that's replied thus far.
With my Sprint Palm Pre I find that I burn through 1-1.5GB per month. Mostly from streaming podcasts and web surfing when away from home.
WP7 could be a totally different animal for me though. I have a Zune HD and Zune Pass. I've long loved the idea of having a Zune phone and the possibility of having access to the Marketplace anywhere I go. I spent some time with a Samsung Focus at an AT&T store this week and loved it. However, the 2GB cap on their new tiered plan is of major concern to me. I don't like the idea of having to be conservative with my data usage :/
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Yep, so you usage patterns may be more similar to mine, because with my Vibrant I get around a Gig and if I actually got 3G here I'd probably be around 1.5-2G a month.
Yea, I think I'm going to have to get a Zune HD. My Android phone just doesn't cut it as a media device (it's downright f'ing terrible, to put it nicely) and I need something to put my media on. The HD2 is too damn big to carry around as a second media device and WM6.5 is clunky as hell to use for that purpose.
Unless I can sell both, in which case I'd just get an HD7.
I avg 2-5gb per month of usage. I have been throttled once by t-mobile (hit the 5gb softcap). That is with the hd2. I'm guessing it might drop some just due to subsribing to podcasts on zune, and transferring them to the phone instead of downloading straight to the phone.
I use wifi some at home and work, just depends. I get a lot faster speeds at work on my data connection.
305 MB since it's launch, in UK, but i can see data usage going up. there are not many useful apps in MP (marketplace) atm.
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It's extremely data heavy if you're a Zune Pass subscriber, and stream lots of music.
Not really compatible with AT&T's new 2GB data plans, IMO, and even a 5GB cap is cutting it close if you listen to a lot of music - prolly won't even be enough for many people.
If they thought the iPhone was taxing their network, just wait until they have lots of people on their phones streaming Zune Pass music, in Addition to all the iPhone/iPad users.
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i don't think they have to worry about the phone7 users (both of them) taxing the network ;-)
last month i used 4Gb on tmo.
I think there needs to be a live tile that tells you your internet usage as there is a widget called 3G Watchdog that does it on Android.
i have 12 gb data plan, used 48 MB in the last 6 days.
most of the time i use wifi.
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i don't think they have to worry about the phone7 users (both of them) taxing the network ;-)
last month i used 4Gb on tmo.
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You're only one person. Think of potentially hundreds to thousands of people in an area using that much data.
It can be an issue, potentialy, and people on AT&T cannot use that much data without basically paying almost double for their data plan.
found a link saying that t mobile are dropping down to 500mb for feb 1st! fortunately im not with t mobile as im on an unlimited internet plan with orange but will others follow suit? having unlimited internet was the reason i didnt end up with a hd7 so important is the internet to me. especially with the amount of data that wp7 needs and will need even more in the future....anyone think this is acceptable???
I agree, it is quite cheeky for them to be reducing the data plans down to 500MB. I've noticed a few providers going that direction, which is kind of silly because especially at a time like this when we are heading towards an internet driven society where having internet access is becoming a necessity, rather than a luxury.
Providers should be increasing the data plans, not reducing them, seeing as the data infrastructure is already in place. In fact they should be investing in improving and increasing bandwidth capabilities. Just seems like they want to suck more money out of consumers...
I do understand they need money to improve and increase bandwidth capabilities, but reducing data plans is not the way to go. Perhaps providing truly unlimited plans at a slightly higher price should be available.
davidebanks, you mention you are on Orange. Just be aware that T-Mobile UK and Orange are now joint companies, and may steer towards combining their tariff policies. You may get a letter telling you that they will be restricting your data plan too!
t mobile and orange are using can now use eachothers networks not sure if thats the same as joining companies. hope not now. so im paying £35 pounds a month for my service which includes unlimited internet. if mine goes down to 500mb, is there anything i can do about this? like cancel contract or something? i just dont get why they are doing it. im sure its for good reason but i own wp7 device so with all its facebook updating all friends stuff and pictures, Bing maps + internet, the Cloud service which microsoft strongly encourage us wp7 to use and then fob us uk customers with mainly 8gb devices....the list goes on......
I really can't understand how a carrier dares to provide a dataplan with less than 1GB in the year 2011 -500MB have been up-to-date in the year 2008!
I hope that they'll lose all users due to this stupid decision.
I have a 3GB dataplan for 2 years now included with my phone-plan and I'm absolutely sure that I'm paying less for this than T-Mobile users are paying for their 500MB-plan.
yes i reckon you are paying less. our `unlimited` internet is usually 1gb, whilst other countries have 3gb `unlimited` I also forgot to mention Zune as well! low memory storage, then ask us to use and pay for cloud storage. then carriers start dropping our monthly limit.
If you have an Android phone, or you say you have an android phone they give you 3GB. I'm sure they'll extend that to WP7 when it becomes more popular (although they don't actually check what phone you have).
And yeah Orange and T-Mobile are now the same network, in the UK at least (T-Mobile and Orange still exist as separate entities in other countries, France, Germany etc). It doesn't mean we'll be seeing Orange tarrifs on T-Mobile though. Infact the reason why they are still called Orange and T-Mobile and not 1 network called Everything Everywhere is because they didn't want to ruin the brand of T-Mobile being "Value" and Orange being "Premium".
@davidebanks: Phone them up, tell them you have an android phone, ask to be upgraded to 3GB and they'll to it at no extra cost.
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so im paying £35 pounds a month for my service which includes unlimited internet. if mine goes down to 500mb, is there anything i can do about this? like cancel contract or something?
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Yes, that would be considered a rather large change in their T&C's so you could cancel the contract no questions asked. However, for this reason - they are unlikely to apply the 500MB limit to exsiting contracts. More likely than not you will continue on your existing plan until your contract runs out at which time you will be offered a renewal with the new limit in place.
Here in Sweden, I have the "basic" data addon which costs me something like 6 quid a month, that includes 1GB of data at full speed - once I've used the 1GB speed is limited to 120kbps. Additional packages (costing between 12-18 quid) give you 5 and 10 GB of traffic before the speed is limited. There are also offers of truly unlimited plans where you can use as much as you want at full speed (although they are rather pricey).
Hopefully this is not implemented state side, but I would say this is a pretty messed up cut back and you can't download. The high limit before you are throttled on t-mobile is the only reason I stuck with them, if I'm not mistaken its 3gigs. I mean I am paying for the data service I should be able to use it however I like. There only two US carriers that I know of that doesn't have a limit on data and the other one is Sprint. So I guess I might be changing over if they try and pull this over here.
I've got a 500Mb per month plan with orange and samsung omnia 7, i'm adding on a further 500Mb soon though as 500 just isn't enough for WP7, even with my minimal usage i'm still going through at least 150Mb a week. Someone needs to make a Data consumer app, that's if microsoft would let them :/
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Yes, that would be considered a rather large change in their T&C's so you could cancel the contract no questions asked. However, for this reason - they are unlikely to apply the 500MB limit to exsiting contracts. More likely than not you will continue on your existing plan until your contract runs out at which time you will be offered a renewal with the new limit in place.
Here in Sweden, I have the "basic" data addon which costs me something like 6 quid a month, that includes 1GB of data at full speed - once I've used the 1GB speed is limited to 120kbps. Additional packages (costing between 12-18 quid) give you 5 and 10 GB of traffic before the speed is limited. There are also offers of truly unlimited plans where you can use as much as you want at full speed (although they are rather pricey).
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Actually, I have an unlimited dataplan with Tele2 in Sweden, and I pay 7 £ for that (80kr) a month.
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Actually, I have an unlimited dataplan with Tele2 in Sweden, and I pay 7 £ for that (80kr) a month.
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That must be an old plan in that case, as the ones they do these days are fairly similar in both price and limitations to the ones I mentioned above (although Tele2 limits the speed to 64kbps rather than 120).
Most of Tele2's services are however advertised as "fri surf" with a footnote explaining that after X gigabytes speed is limited.
I reckon all of you affected by this change should cut'n'paste the letter found at the Uri below and send to T-Mobile UK.
http://cantankerous.co.uk/?p=499
Looks like exisiting customers will not be affected anymore:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=home&cat=DATA_CHANGES
T-Mobile Statement:
“On Monday 10 January 2011 we announced that, in line with the rest of the industry, T-Mobile would be reducing its Fair Use Policy for data usage to 500MB a month for all mobile phone customers. Following a further review of our policy, these changes will now be introduced from 1 February, to new and upgrading customers only - not existing customers.
There will be no change to the data packages for existing customers for the duration of their contract and we apologise for any confusion caused. The revision to the Fair Use Policy is designed to ensure an improved quality of service for all mobile internet users."
Lysa Hardy, VP, T-Mobile UK
Information on new data policy:
From 1 February 2011 new and upgrading customers will be given a monthly 500MB data allowance. There will be no charge for those customers exceeding that limit, and those who do will still be able to access important services such as email and web browsing, however file downloading and streaming services will be restricted. Customers will then have the option to increase their monthly Fair Use Policy to 1GB a month by purchasing a Mobile Broadband Booster. This will ensure an improved quality of service for all of our mobile internet users.
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usually we moan about how the carriers are doing wp7 no favors and are steering people away from wp7 and pointing them towards iphone and android instead, however Orange UK seem to be doing a bit more than most UK carriers to promote. here are the reason why i think orange deserves some credit
1)I walked past an Orange store and was very surprised to see the ZUNE player software right at the FRONT of the store so you couldnt miss it at all, (usually this is reserved for iphone) it was playing the stores music so people could see how it worked. This was shown on a large dominating 60 inch ( i think TV) of course this would make people ask whats that? then they could guide you towards their WP7 phones...smart, very smart.
2)Orange were also one of the first stores to supply wp7 devices at launch in the UK even though there was a shortage, main orange stores had them.
3)Orange offer Turn by turn Orange Maps Navigation. now its not as good as TOM TOM. but i dont see any other carriers doing it.
4) unlimited internet ( im looking at you t mobile) i phone and asked orange if i could find out how much data i was using because i could go over my "unlimited usually 1gb limit) i couldnt i was was told, because i was on an unlimited plan. sweet.
and finally 5) Orange are the Only store where i have seen reps from HTC or other people who have been drafted in to actually promote WP7!!! i havnt seen this done anywhere else!
so well done Orange, you deserve the credit!
davidebanks said:
4) unlimited internet ( im looking at you t mobile) i phone and asked orange if i could find out how much data i was using because i could go over my "unlimited usually 1gb limit) i couldnt i was was told, because i was on an unlimited plan. sweet.
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I'd double check on the internet if I were you.
Orange only do 500MB bundles which you can top up for a little more a month.
It depends on who you talk to.. I found that a few call centre people would claim that the internet was unlimited and would say that as long as you don't download, you can browse and listen to music as much as you want. Speak to someone else and you will find that there is a "fair usage policy" which is at 500MB (or more depending on how many bundles you bought) and they start charging you for extra usage.
UNLESS things have changed!
I don't think they even have "unlimited" (with fair usage policy) internet as an option. They have fixed amount MB per month and they're going to charge you if go above it.
I don’t know if they are a good WP7 promoter, however I had a terrible experience with their customer support and will definitely avoid them as a network provider. I am not surprised that someone of their representative told to OP the nonsense about the "unlimited" internet. Most of them are so incompetent.
Orange have given me unlimited data on my contract but they seem to artifically limit it by not giving me signal anywhere....
I got an omnia 7 a couple days after launch & at the time my contract, panther 35, unlimited data had a fair usage limit of 3gb but the salesman said the limit would be dropping to 1gb for new customers in november so id ring them back & make sure they tell you what you need to know.
davidebanks said:
unlimited internet ( im looking at you t mobile)
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Orange have a FUP of 500mb, T-Mobile's is 1gb, 3gb if you say you have an android phone.
T-Mobile are cheaper than orange.
Other than that, there is no difference AT ALL between the 2 networks.