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WM 6.0 versus WM 6.1 What's the diff?

Besides the name 6.1 is different from 6.0, what's the feature differences?

Once again....
- Office Mobile now includes also One Note Mobile application
- Internet Explorer now has function "Zoom Out" what enables page-overview mode and better overall navigation through web pages
- Windows Mobile 6.1 still is based on Windows CE 5.2 so no upgrade to Windows CE 6.0
- SMS chat view mode is available so SMS messages can appear in threaded-way - more comfortable to follow SMS conversations
- instead of "Settings / Memory / Running Programs" now a Task Manager is available with possibility to set settings of executed threads/processes like CPU (indication of dual-core Windows Mobile devices?) and memory
- New menu item "Managed Programs"

i already knew all that stuff myself but can anyone tell me what the "Managed Programs" is for?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1886475

6.1 - parts
OK, if these parts (below) are available just as upgrade cabs?
- Internet Explorer now has function "Zoom Out" what enables page-overview mode and better overall navigation through web pages
- SMS chat view mode is available so SMS messages can appear in threaded-way - more comfortable to follow SMS conversations

wm6 is old (around 2007 & prior).
wm6.1 is 2008 and improved, faster, OEM capatible, etc...

when windows 6.5 launches, will you have the windows desktop?

When Microsoft releases windows 6.5, will the touch pro 2 have the windows desktop or the current skinned desktop that HTC has on the front end of the touch pro 2 now? Is there an option in the menus currently to change it to the windows 6.1 desktop from the HTC skin? I asked because i will probably wanna have the windows 6.5 desktop screen on my touch pro 2.

Not knowing for sure, but based on past roms, you should be able to go into the settings>today>Items and select the items you want on your today -i.e. - HTC home and so on.

I would like to see Titanium as the first page in TF3D, or fully configurable. Because Titanium is nice, but TF3D is nicer and prettier.

slick69 said:
I would like to see Titanium as the first page in TF3D, or fully configurable. Because Titanium is nice, but TF3D is nicer and prettier.
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well not necessarily prettier becaus eit is so skinable. You can mod the heck out of it

EazyDeazy said:
When Microsoft releases windows 6.5, will the touch pro 2 have the windows desktop or the current skinned desktop that HTC has on the front end of the touch pro 2 now? Is there an option in the menus currently to change it to the windows 6.1 desktop from the HTC skin? I asked because i will probably wanna have the windows 6.5 desktop screen on my touch pro 2.
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Go to the today menu from systems. You should be able to switch off Touch Flo 3D. Hope that helps.

Manila or Windows Interface?

I know some of you love Manila, but I rather have the Windows Interface.
I would switch from time to time, but mostly on WI.
What about you guys?

Same here
I have most all the time Windows interface
To be honest I am not 100% ok with any of them...

To be honest. Manila. Just because it's easier to navigate and there is more information on a screen then windows mobile 6.5 screen.
Still, for productivity, I would choose the old style windows.
But manila gets more features that I can't miss. Also, everything is directly accessable. Like the agenda, weather, email etc. So now I'm stuck with manila.

Manilla and SPB Mobile shell for me.
Still have the ability to switch to std WinMo home with 2nd today but Manilla and SPBMS suit my needs.
There are plenty of shell/homescreen variants available on the Net with a multitude of plugins available.
With all the customisations any amount of usefull info is easily accessible.
Cheers,
Beasty

customizing user interface on touch pro 2

this is my first winmo phone so far
along its good features there are some bad ones
in comparison to other phones i used
its alot more complicated and dinasaur like user interface(at least for finger tapping)
i already lost my stylus which is gay... it caught onto something today and is now M.I.A. (only had it for 2 weeks)
the menus are way too small for normal finger and i dont have any nails.
i didnt nottice any major increases in the amount of tweaks besides registry editor. but that is acomplished by other means in many other phone OSes. like patches and editing the install files.
as far as actual user interface there are random one liners here and there.
for example: a pretty common guide you find in alot fo phone forums is how to create your own skin(theme) even software for it is available and beeing developed. not for WINmo.
you would think there would be much more flexibility in creating your own unique user interface. but as far as i know its opposite.
most of the skins are just wallpaper and color variations.
with same layout and menus.
now heres what i need help with
im using leaked TMO rom with 6.5
today window:
can i move the clock to the top bar?(im not that blind, the digit animations are cool for first few days...) i jsut want something simple.
can i make the weather tab more transparent?
can i get rid of call history and calendar buttons?
can i switch the camera and all people soft buttons?
can i make the shortcuts like they are on blackberry phone so it will show selected shortcuts wen i press one button without scrolling?( one of the cooked roms had something similar where shortcuts were under calendar scroll up)
then.
how can i arrange the start menu in windows style but with medium sized icons i hate scrolling thru a long list of programs.
is there a setting to go straight to INBOX and ALL messages? because the preview is very annoying. i still have to press a button to view. theres no purpose for it besides being cool at first.
thats it for now
forgot one more thins
how can i select an item without activating the link?
in other words "mouse-over" since theres no cursor when i tap it automatically selects and opens the item. i fkn hate that. when you try to select something in order to go to menu and it activates the item so i have to close it and start again.
like tapping on a phone number it starts caling right away WTF. makes me not want to use alot of features when i have to do everything twice..

SPB Mobile Shell
Too long try to minimize writings so people dont get bored
have you checked SPB Mobile Shell? .. its a really good customizable UI
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/

It sounds like you just don't like the HTC Sense interface. As mentioned, SPB Mobile Shell is a very popular alternative. Otherwise, there are countless other Today screen plugins available (but many are outdated and require stylus). Or perhaps the default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface will suit your needs?

im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any

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im not sure if it comes with the winmo 6.5
whats the difference between sense and touch flo? if any
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default WinMo 6.5 Titanium interface is the normal Windows Mobile 6.5 UI, the one with the one list and you go up and down and scroll vertically.
Manila 2.0 = TouchFlo3D 2.0 (No weather on the clock and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.1 = TouchFlo3D 2.1 = Sense 2.1 (Weather on the clock, and no shortcuts above the tabs)
Manila 2.5 = Sense 2.5 (Weather on the clock + Shortcuts above the tabs)
you probably have WM6.5 with Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1)
you can either use the default WM6.5 UI (A.K.A Titanium interface) or Sense 2.1 (A.K.A TouchFLo3D 2.1 A.K.A Manila 2.1) or install SPB Mobile Shell for a whole new experience.
hope things are a little bit clearer

what about the inboxes is there any way to get rid of that dang preview screen and go straight to inbox for txt and email?

WM 6.5 ROM queries/problems

Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?

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Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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ok, im figuring u have the wm 6.5 now. yes manila is touchflo, and sense is just the newest UI. touchflo3d is a UI and Sense is a UI. if u have touchflo3d and want to change today screen settings(which is limited with out modding) go to ur start menu. then settings. then go today screen. u can change your themes on appearance tabs. if u want windows default today screen, click on the items tab on the bottom of same screen. then u can uncheck touchflo and check windows default. its a more basic setup. if u really wanna modify ur today screen/tf3d, check out the Themes and apps thread here in Rhodium. theres all sorts of tweaks to make ur tf3d look nuthin like it does now. Like transparent sliders, new icons, new taskbar, new transparent clocks, and it goes on and on.
i know it can seem confusing with all the icons trying to find ur main system settings. For the main ones, press start menu. then go settings. then go to system. u will be able to modify backlight/power settings and more. these are the main windows mobile settings. U also have a settings tab in tf3d that lets u change some things in system and tf3d but not as much or detailed like main system settings. try it out

Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.

jbevan said:
Yesterday I installed HTC ROM upgrade and unbeknownst to me installed WM 6.5. It does not seema s bad as some here make out but I have come across a couple of irritation stumbling blocks that I am sure someone here can resolve for me. How the hell do I get into basic wondows/phone settings such as backlight, power settings etc. Is there a way to customise what used to be called the Today screen, now the Home screen I suppose, beyond what little is available on the Home screen menu. In the old 6.1 version I had until yesterday when Touch Flo didn't have a settings option you were dropped back into windows settings, can't find a way to do this now. BTW does Manila = Touch Fl0 3D and is Sense an updated version of the same?
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The fix is noted above, but I would recommend burning a custom ROM. I'm using the Energy ROM, and in that version the Settings goes to the WM settings rather than the Sense Settings tab. Plus, these ROMs can have a lot of nice customized programs already burned in.

I just downloaded and installed Easy Today Launcher on my WM Prof 6.1 and I am really happy with it. It allow you to put shortcuts on your today screen. I have TF3D turned off, so no idea how it works with that. The Easy Today Launcher is free and super easy to use.

thats right...in that tab theres the all settings to...a lil faster..lol
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sirphunkee said:
Hi Jeremy.
In the 6.5 ROM you can find all the old regular WM settings by just sliding to the "settings" tab in Sense, and clicking the bottom-left soft key, "All Settings". Yes it's an extra click, and yes it gets annoying.
Manila is the underlying operating name for HTC's custom UI. First version was TouchFlo, then TouchFLO3/TF3D (which you just came off of), then Sense. All of those are just "generations" of Manila.
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Hi. Thanks for explaining the Manila naming thing.
Unfortunately, for some reason, I do not have the All Settings soft key, its what I was looking for - the same option as in 6.1 with TF3D. Any ideas? Maybe I shoud just flash with the Energy custom ROM and be done with it!
Hello to Austin Texas btw from sunny north london!
Jeremy

I have found the All Settings option, it was under the Menu soft key! Anyway I have taken the good advice of stevedebi and installed the Energy custom ROM, which was a cinch to install and looks fanatsts so far. A happy man here!