Hi,
Does anyone know of any app that restricts data connection to only when in WCDMA (UMTS 3G) network?
Reason why is that i use my Dopod D810 to surf the net and download files. However i have managed to rack up $320 in roaming charges for internet usage even though i am on a 1 GB XSeries plan on 3.
I was not aware that i was roaming at all. So in future, i want my phone to automatically disconnect when "Roaming".
Is there such an app? I have tried Bandswitch but i couldnt get it to do what i wanted.
use search.
There is an app called trinity hacks or something that adds this feature.
Are you sure? I have Trinity Hacks v0.3 and it doesnt seem to have this feature.
What i want is for my phone to automatically disconnect once it is "roaming" onto Telstra's network from the 3 network.
Yes,
Trinity Hacks v0.3 --> Phone tab --> 'Enable GSM/UMTS Band Selection'
Ticking this enables a new tab under 'Settings' --> 'Phone' --> 'Band'
Switch it from 'auto' to 'WCDMA'
Then you will never incur roaming charges on Telstra network.
Yeah i already have that setup.
What i want is to be able to Roam to Telstra so i get full PHONE coverage, but once it goes to roaming, i want the data connection to automatically disconnect.
What you have asked me to do is to permanently connect only to 3G which means i cannot get reception everywhere.
Does that make sense?
What you want is not possible without some serious programming! The Radio stack can be set to connect to GSM, UMTS/WCDMA or either, but you can't split voice and data functionality.
Hi,
Thanks for all your replies, but im not asking for voice and data functionality to be split. The phone can already tell whether it is roaming or on the home network. Isn't it just a matter of getting this information from the phone possibly via the OS API and then when the phone returns a value to signify that its roaming, then the program will disconnect the connection, just like pressing the disconnect button, but this time programmatically?
Im not asking for someone to write something like this, but if something already exist like this.
Maybe this reply is not needed anymore sinds the thread is one month old. Still, I use spb grps monitor. It has a lot of customization option. Maybe it has a feature that will do the trick. I'm not going to look into it myself. Just wanted to give you a headsup.
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG ! ****, I HATE ROGERS !!!!
352 $ DATA CHARGES ON MY ACCOUNT...!
i swear i'm so ****in pissed at this point...i have the new HTC s621 and all these days the internet i've been using is ROGERS DATA, and i thought it was wi-fi - i always connected to wi-fi....guys, if it does say it's connecting to wi-fi and if it can't connect - it connects to the rogers data network without you knowing :S - that's ****ing ********. CALL ROGERS NOW AND TELL THEM YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU WERE UNAWARE, AND YOUR VERY DISAPPOINTED AND FRUSTRATED.A
i swear, you have no idea how pissed off i am...this is a ripoff - all these days i was connecting to free wi-fi points but guess what? that's not "FREE" it's rogers internet all this time :S - atleast some kinda notification or warning would be good. i swear, such a bunch of liars...i spoke to this girl in the data dept. and she said i can't do anything as of now because your bill's not registered yet. she blocked the internet access, though so that in future i don't get charged but they should have warned me before, i had no clue - i was going through the posts when i saw someone post a link about how somone got 1600 $ charges. anyway, i'm gonna call back the moment my bill comes...
rogers is LYING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, OVERCHARGING CUSTOMERS, MAKING FALSE PROMISES AS WELL AS NOT PROVIDING ANY VITAL INFORMATION...i'm sick and tired of this ********. everything with them is getting messed....guys, please be AWARE if any of you have SMART PHONES OR BLACK BERRY'S - be careful, especially if you have wi-fi, you might want to get rogers data serviced blocked.
p.s: WHY SHOULD ANYONE PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF? honestly speaking, rogers defaulted the GPRS?EDGE option on the s621 so it connects to rogers internet without your permission - that's just WRONG on every level - that's like tresspassing onto someone's property and getting charged for it while you thought your on a public property....seriously, think about it guys - i'm waiting for my bill to come so i can get them to credit me that charge, i ain't paying a penny - otherwise i'll cancel everything with them.
i hope you can get the charges removed if you didnt know you were being charged. the real problem is that you do not know how to use your phone. i have had several versions of the phone you are using, as well as several others that have similar capabilities and i have yet to have this kind of a problem. read your manual and learn what the indicators mean that run accross the top of your screen. it will show you when you are attached to a wifi network and when you are connecting to a wifi network. if you are surfing the net without a wifi network these icons will not be present. there is also a speed difference in downloading info. learn to protect yourself, bro.
i am not pro rogers, either. i spent 55min on the phone with them last night trying to adjust my plan and it should only have been a 15 min conversation. i am aware of how difficult they can be to deal with but the problem you are having is not really their fault
You should familiarize yourself with the device, and how to tell when it's connected to WiFi. For one thing, if it's not WiFi, it's a heck of a lot slower than when it is. For another, your homescreen shows when you're connected to an access point, as does the iconbar up top.
its annoying there is no way to disable gprs and keep the settings stored. most of the time I delete the gprs settings then if i ever want to use it i just add the account in. I'm on vodafone so its simply internet for the ap and web/web user pass. Pretty easy to type in when ever you need to. Basically if you see the 2 arrows where the signal icon usually is, you will be being billed.
I have to agree... I mean you should easily notice the difference between wifi and grps...
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
You should call Rogers...
enroh said:
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
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Ok if you see the little E logo over the signal that doesn't always mean your using GPRS because if I send a picture message it will stay on all day and night but it doesn't use it.
Easy way to find out is to just go into your comm manager and look for the data transfer... if its "lit up" then it's on, all you have to do is click it to turn it off manually.
Rogers is not to blame, but rather HTC. I have the same issue with my Titan/Mogul on Telus. Even if you shut down your EVDO/EDGE connection through Comm Manager, it will reconnect. There should be an option to set priority to WiFi when a hotspot connection is established, but there isn't and that's an awful feature.
I'm around a WiFi connection most of the time so the solution to this is to delete the wireless profile. Fortunately Telus doesn't require user names and passwords to connect so it's just a matter of having it dial #777 to establish a connection when needed.
Its a shame dude. I have a 200 meg plan so I am covered for data.
BUT I still use a GPRS data tracker to keep an eye on hwo much data I use. A well spent $US7.95 - dont try using a pirated version of these, as the DASH/S620/S621 uses a different .DLL than that is supplied in the pirate version. Just pay the $$ to save some $$
I use this for added assurance:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
Spb GPRS Monitor
Spb GPRS Monitor is a complete solution for measuring the amounts of data transfers via your GPRS, CDMA or GSM network connection and calculating network usage costs. Spb GPRS Monitor monitors all data transfers you perform and calculates the cost of your GPRS usage taking into account your service plan details: inclusive data amount, data block size. etc.
# Taskbar icon that shows GPRS connection speed and other indicators
# Pop-up window that shows all GPRS information
# Warning notifications on daily/monthly traffic limits
# Detailed connection usage and cost charts
# Detailed text reports of your connection usage and cost
# Export to CSV for use with Microsoft® Excel and Access
# 440+ pre-defined service plans
# Today plug-in that shows GPRS speed and other statistics
# Skin format interface
Oh man this site is the best. There is a tool in this thread that allows you to toggle your provider's data connection on/off and contrary to HTC's Conn Manager, it keeps it off
Working like a charm on my Mogul !
ThaiM said:
I use this for added assurance:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
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This is for Pocket PCs. They have a special Smartphone version but that does not run properly on WM5 on my S620: I can not make any changes in the preferences because there is no "OK/done etc" button to press once I've chosen new settings.
Rogers is owned, run and supported by a bunch of idiots. Anyway I got one of those bills once and now everything else than voice is blocked. Goddamned retards!
But since we're in Canada, that's still the best available option.
BTW It took me over a month to get a TyTN from them. They lost packages, orders, didn't know who I was, kept me on the phone for hours and much more. It's not over yet, since we're not sure if we are going to pay the right price.
when i had my treo 680 my friend opened yahoo sports on my pda (auto refreshes) and i didnt know he did that. i never knew internet was open so i didnt bother with it. got a 300$ phone bill cuz for internet. they were nice enough to wave it off. just call them and be really nice and polite. i dont see why they wont do the same for u.
i canceled data on my account so its not possible to anyone to use data on it anymore thank god
Rogers
I got the same problem as you but i did not pay anthing when i told them thats was by mistake and you can disactivate Rogers data dawnload without any problems to be more sure in the future.
I disabled my GPRS on my s621 by going to the connections and changing the settings for that account (I removed the m form internet.com so it says internet.co). This way if I loose my wifi it cant switch to GPRS. If I absolutely need GPRS I just go and change it back. You can test it by stopping wifi and opening IE and trying to connect to a site. You should get an error message.
As for the original post on this thread:
defaulting the grps/edge option on the S621 is like trespassing? I don't think so. You're buying a windows smartphone and the whole point is to use data on the device - why wouldn't they have that option programmed in and turned on? Everyone would complain that they can't use data on a phone that they purchased specifically for that purpose - gimme a break. I know the phone has wifi, but its of course going to have the means to connect to the cell phone network for data usage as well, use your brain a little.
Anyways, I do agree that there should be a better indicator or a pop-up of some sort that comes up when wifi drops out and gprs/edge kicks in - but it should be user beware either way when it comes to data charges.
Easiest and best solution is yeah, delete out the profile or block it from the provider side. It sucks though if you really need to use data on the cell network for an emergency and you have to redo the settings.
lukybandit said:
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG ! ****, I HATE ROGERS !!!!
352 $ DATA CHARGES ON MY ACCOUNT...!
i swear i'm so ****in pissed at this point...i have the new HTC s621 and all these days the internet i've been using is ROGERS DATA, and i thought it was wi-fi - i always connected to wi-fi....guys, if it does say it's connecting to wi-fi and if it can't connect - it connects to the rogers data network without you knowing :S - that's ****ing ********. CALL ROGERS NOW AND TELL THEM YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU WERE UNAWARE, AND YOUR VERY DISAPPOINTED AND FRUSTRATED.A
i swear, you have no idea how pissed off i am...this is a ripoff - all these days i was connecting to free wi-fi points but guess what? that's not "FREE" it's rogers internet all this time :S - atleast some kinda notification or warning would be good. i swear, such a bunch of liars...i spoke to this girl in the data dept. and she said i can't do anything as of now because your bill's not registered yet. she blocked the internet access, though so that in future i don't get charged but they should have warned me before, i had no clue - i was going through the posts when i saw someone post a link about how somone got 1600 $ charges. anyway, i'm gonna call back the moment my bill comes...
rogers is LYING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, OVERCHARGING CUSTOMERS, MAKING FALSE PROMISES AS WELL AS NOT PROVIDING ANY VITAL INFORMATION...i'm sick and tired of this ********. everything with them is getting messed....guys, please be AWARE if any of you have SMART PHONES OR BLACK BERRY'S - be careful, especially if you have wi-fi, you might want to get rogers data serviced blocked.
p.s: WHY SHOULD ANYONE PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF? honestly speaking, rogers defaulted the GPRS?EDGE option on the s621 so it connects to rogers internet without your permission - that's just WRONG on every level - that's like tresspassing onto someone's property and getting charged for it while you thought your on a public property....seriously, think about it guys - i'm waiting for my bill to come so i can get them to credit me that charge, i ain't paying a penny - otherwise i'll cancel everything with them.
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lol, it's always funny when people like to blame everyone but themselves for their own ignorance.
Rogers did not program the software, HTC did.
Rogers did NOT tell you not to read your manual did they?
Your phone tells you what type of connection you are using you just need to know how to use your phone.
If you call up Rogers and tell them you thought you were using WiFi and ask NICELY (Don't go off half cocked like you did above) they Will remove the charges.
enroh said:
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
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You were not properly informed of data plans. You should cancel your $15 / 1.5MB data plan and get the $10 / 10MB mobile internet plan instead. Plus you get 33% off of a mobile internet plan, but not a data plan, if you have and value pack (ie, call display & voicemail) so it would actually only be $6.67
Dear all,
since one week I have the TP2 and like it a lot. Until the TP2 I used to have an Iphone3G and now of course I have to change my user behaviour a little bit.
There is one big topic I would like to discuss here: DataConnections!
I have the problem, that I dont have a flat option for data from my provider. I have to pay by time and not by traffic. Hence I like to keep the time I am connected to the Net to a minimum!
Is it possible to realise the following with the TP2 (maybe with extra software)?
1. Mobile data connection only manually with immediate cut off after the transfer (for example if I press send/receive for mail). If I want to manually access the net there should be a short message box asking me to connect. Currently I have to use the CommCenter to switch data connection on/off. As I already use nodata to really cut off the automated connection behaviour, maybe this tool can also be used somehow to allow access and cut it off after the sending/receiving is done.
2. Wifi Scan constantly in the background (after manually switching it on) to scan for open networks or prefered networks. If some network is found, it automatically connects, checks internet, do all the other automated updates and stays connected until I manually disable wifi.
As you can see, I want to have some kind of automated, cost efficient, connection behaviour of TP2. The tool nodata, which I currently use is great to cut off the automated connection but is not very flexible
I am looking forward to exchange with you on that topic.
Regards,
dvdjimmy
...does really nobody else need something like this? Or am I just too stupid to use the onboard tools of wm6.1 correctly?
Regards,
dvdjimmy
take a look at bandswitch or commmgrpro...
you can use this registry entry,
for example this will kill automatic the connection after 10 seconds,
or if you dont use...
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\
CacheTime = 10 (sec.)
SuspendResume = GPRS_bye_if_device_off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
Dear all,
thank you for your suggestions. The registry is already a good start for me. Many thx. The commgrpro also looks very good. It seems to allow also the disconnect after a certain amount of time.
Anyway, I think I have to program it on my own: My dream would be to have a software which I can tell that I allow Access to the net from now on. Then the software is switching on wlan in the background and constantly scans for open or prefered networks. If such a network is found I would like to get connected to it. If somehow the WLAN connection breaks down and access to the net is no longer possible, the app should ask if I would like to use UMTS instead of WLAN right now. If I answer yes, WLAN is switched off, the data connection is switched on, the transfer is taking place and afterwards the connection is cut off completely and WLAN is switched on again and hopefully finds another open access again
So the main benefit would be, that automatically only the WLAN is allowed to connect. All the dataconnection by UMTS have to be allowed and are immediately switched off.
I would like to program something like this if you can help me on how to start with it, as I have not programmed a lot for the WM Platform until now.
With best regards,
Joachim
I have a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2. The data connection seems to turn on by itself. I am traveling to a foreign country soon and I don't want to get a HUGE bill. I went to T-Mobile and they didn't know what to do. I re-setted the phone and I am running the new windows mobile. Does anyone know what to do???
Use this program. Very easy and simple. It allows you to disable your data connection completely.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
Yes, Modaco NoData works great. It allows the use of WiFi but completely shuts off the cellular data connection.
Sense connects to the internet all the time to refresh the weather data and other info. You should definitely setup a way to turn off the data connection. I learned this lesson on my old Tilt while traveling in Japan. I accidentally launched Internet Explorer while the phone was in my pocket, and it cost a couple dollars just to load my browser homepage.
I just want to make sure... does MoDaCo NoData COMPLETELY shut off all data use PERMANENTLY on my T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (assuming I have set it up to have all the connections disabled)?
Doesn't matter if, say, the "weather" app, is trying to update/force a connection? Will it still stay off?
The only way to allow the data connection to come back would be to MANUALLY go into the MoDaCo NoData app and enable the connections again, correct?
Thanks for the answer/confirmation... I guess I just really need it spelled out for me.
awillquik said:
I just want to make sure... does MoDaCo NoData COMPLETELY shut off all data use PERMANENTLY on my T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2 (assuming I have set it up to have all the connections disabled)?
Doesn't matter if, say, the "weather" app, is trying to update/force a connection? Will it still stay off?
The only way to allow the data connection to come back would be to MANUALLY go into the MoDaCo NoData app and enable the connections again, correct?
Thanks for the answer/confirmation... I guess I just really need it spelled out for me.
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That's correct, the data connection will stay off until you toggle it back on again in NoData. No other apps can force it back on.
When you first toggle the data connection off in NoData, you will need to soft reset (power off then on again) before the data connection is off. But it will stay off until toggle back on (no soft reset needed to turn data back on, from what I recall).
redpoint73 said:
That's correct, the data connection will stay off until you toggle it back on again in NoData. No other apps can force it back on.
When you first toggle the data connection off in NoData, you will need to soft reset (power off then on again) before the data connection is off. But it will stay off until toggle back on (no soft reset needed to turn data back on, from what I recall).
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Thank you very much. That is exactly what I needed to hear.
One other question now: Say I had my HTC Touch Pro 2 without a SIM card in it. I install the NoData Cab before I put in my SIM card. When I put in my SIM card, is there anything that will force the data connection to come on? Or will I be able to just plug and play without the worry of the data connection ever coming on?
I understand that not everyone does this, but I'm just wondering if it will work in the way I would like it to.
^ Anyone know, or have an idea?
You could try it yourself I think that it's possible, but maybe only when you put a simcard in from a differenct carrier. You can disable it faster true nodata then it can enable by itself.
Hi,
I've been looking at a few of these 'locate' apps, including Seek Droid, and also the HTC Sense app (with the new HD Rom).
It seems each of these needs the phone to have an active data connection to be able to locate the phone, and do the other features, such as lock / send message / ring.
I have a limited data account so have a toggle for on/off data connection, which I leave off by default.
As such, if I loose my phone, it will 99% likely have the data connection toggle 'off'. And therefore these locate apps won't work.
Does anyone know of
a) a locate app which will turn on data connection?
b) a locate app which doesn't need data connection and can just work with network reception
c) a method of remotely turning ON the data connection (ie turning the toggle from Off to On) -- on this note, i've seen app 'Tasker' which looks like it can do this, but it is extremely expensive...)
Thanks in advance
Rob
No and to be honest it is hard to locate your device and do things like you said without a data connection. Just use something like Where's My Droid which uses text and gps to locate your phone. It isn't exactly what your looking for but it is a nice compromise. Just use the security for your phone to be safe. How much data have you got for your phone?