I found the new PRL in a zip format is there anyway to install this new PRL update without switching roms and updating it that way? I tried flashing it and that didnt work. It says it cant find the update something or other to finish.
Also noob question. If I creat a nand back up and switch roms play with all sorts of settings and so forth and then deside to restore my nand. Will my restored nand have everything like my contacts and settings and apps already setup without pretty much acting like i just installed a new rom fresh and now I need to redo all my settings and so forth?
Thanks, Thomas
In order to update PRL you need to flash a sense ROM, update the PRL and Profile then flash back to CM.
When you do a nandroid backup it creates an exact backup at the time you make it. Restoring it will restore your phone to the exact state it was in when you made your backup.
not exactly true on nandroid information.
A nandroid does not back up everything. for CM6 users you can make a nand droid flash a new rom flash the prl and restore the Nand and KEEP the new PRL for example same with profile and radios. nand does not back up radios recovery or prl. So while it will be very close it is not truly an exact back up of your phone.
to answer the question though yes you can make a nand droid of a rom play with another rom and flash back anytime you want with out having to reset up all your settings apps etc. Many of us use this method to experiment with different roms (making a nand of each and switching periodically)
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not exactly true on nandroid information.
A nandroid does not back up everything. for CM6 users you can make a nand droid flash a new rom flash the prl and restore the Nand and KEEP the new PRL for example same with profile and radios. nand does not back up radios recovery or prl. So while it will be very close it is not truly an exact back up of your phone.
to answer the question though yes you can make a nand droid of a rom play with another rom and flash back anytime you want with out having to reset up all your settings apps etc. Many of us use this method to experiment with different roms (making a nand of each and switching periodically)
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Thanks, both of you. lol Yeah I should have played with these things much sooner I have been moding and messing with this phone since almost day one.
For some reasone I could have sworn I flashed the last PRL update on my wifes Hero but obviously thats not the case.
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Short and sweet:
1. I'm using the recovery that comes with Toast's 2of2 method (this is Amon Ra?) The Nand/ext backup fails for me and I read in a thread that's expected, but I can't find it again with the forum search. How would I fix this, and is it necessary? Is the regular Nandroid backup good enough?
2. Does a Nandroid backup include the kernel? If I push a custom kernel and have problems, will a Nand restore revert me to the kernel I had when I made the backup?
Thanks for the help in advance.
yes and yes
the ext bkup fails bc you dont have a ext partition yet
1. Do you have an EXT partition on your card? If not then you can just use the straight Nandroid backup.
2. Yes a Nandroid should back up the kernel at the point you made the back up. (not 100% sure but 99% )
I hate to hijack the thread but it looks looks like it died down a little and in my search effort this is the closest to what my question is. so to save making a new post on something probably answered before.
I am a relative noob. (i know sad) but i am learnign fast. I was wondering what exactly a nandroid back up does and does not back up.
I am doing the Starting over method to get back to stock 1.47(rooted) to see if it fixes 4g and think i can just nandroid after doing the method described to get my rom back etc. My only fear is that by nandrioding what ever benefit i got from starting over will be reverted.
Srry for the long explaination but basically if i Nandroid is it basically a complete image changing literally everything back to the previous state(ala HDD img)? If not will doing the starting over method then nandroiding revert me back to having the problem again?
Thanks in advance.
Nandroid backs up your entire system config. Radio, software, kernel, rom, etc. As long as you don't unroot, your system will be exactly the way it was after you restore.
Omega, if you do the back to stock root and then restore Nandroid, I'm pretty sure it will be as if you never did the back to stock. Pretty sure but not 100% positive.
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Nandroid does NOT back up or restore your radio, wimax, boot or recovery partitions
AFAIK nand only backs up your system and userdata partitions, not positive about the cache or misc partitions.
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Nandroid does NOT back up or restore your radio, wimax, boot or recovery partitions
AFAIK nand only backs up your system and userdata partitions, not positive about the cache or misc partitions.
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Thank you very much. This should mean that once i do the starting over i should then be able to just nandroid back to my rom without having to redo my kernal/theme/rom and it shouldn't mess up my wimax radio again.
omegasun18 said:
Thank you very much. This should mean that once i do the starting over i should then be able to just nandroid back to my rom without having to redo my kernal/theme/rom and it shouldn't mess up my wimax radio again.
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Correct .
*edit- looks like I'm wrong about the boot partition. I just unzipped a nand and there's a boot.img in there.. still shouldn't affect radio or wimax though
Hey everyone... I was wondering -
If I make a NANDroid back up of my stock froyo rooted ROM (ROM #1),
Do a full wipe and then flash another ROM (ROM #2) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #2,
Then do another full wipe and flash another ROM (ROM #3) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #3...etc etc...
My question is - Can I restore any given NAND BU to any given ROM, or Do i actually have to reflash that ROM to get it back on the phone?
I tried doing this with a NAND BU that I made with a ROM I had flashed... it got buggy and I ended up restoring my NAND BU from the stock ROM. Then I wanted to show some one the ROM I had flashed before and tried to restore the NAND BU I made of that particular ROM and it got 3 dots into the restore then said it couldnt be completed.
I am wondering if it couldnt be completed b/c the NAND BU was corrupted some how - or if this is actually not some thing you can do...
any info on this would be helpful...
JS3
yes you can do that. before you restore you may want to wipe the cache and dalvik just to make sure that is all cleared out (unless you also do backups of the cache)
What recovery are you running when the restore failed? i am guessing amon, so when you get an error you should move the log to sd so you can check out what exactly the error was
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yes you can do that. before you restore you may want to wipe the cache and dalvik just to make sure that is all cleared out (unless you also do backups of the cache)
What recovery are you running when the restore failed? i am guessing amon, so when you get an error you should move the log to sd so you can check out what exactly the error was
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Ok, I thought I could but I was thrown off by the failed attempt. I always do a FULL wipe when flashing from one ROM to another... and I'm not sure how to back up the cache...
The main back ups I preform are the NAND, Titanium and occasionally I use MyBackUpPro...but I only use the last one for contacts and texts...
I always use Amon_Ra... I am currently using 2.2.1... I am assuming that the NAND BU was corrupt some how.
I am trying to think if I made the back up with the same version of Ra or not and I assume that shouldnt make any differance. Now the only other variable would be that I changed the name of the main file - but I always do that with all my NAND BUs and I didnt have any problem restoring my stock froyo that was named in the same format...(ex: StockFroyo-011911 <~~ which worked Vs. WarmTwoPointTwo-012911 <~~ which did not work)...
You can make backups of multiple and re-flash them at your will [just know which is which, by naming them.] Also, do a cache and dalvik wipe before hand, and you're good to go.
JayStation3 said:
Hey everyone... I was wondering -
If I make a NANDroid back up of my stock froyo rooted ROM (ROM #1),
Do a full wipe and then flash another ROM (ROM #2) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #2,
Then do another full wipe and flash another ROM (ROM #3) and make a NANDroid BU of ROM #3...etc etc...
My question is - Can I restore any given NAND BU to any given ROM, or Do i actually have to reflash that ROM to get it back on the phone?
I tried doing this with a NAND BU that I made with a ROM I had flashed... it got buggy and I ended up restoring my NAND BU from the stock ROM. Then I wanted to show some one the ROM I had flashed before and tried to restore the NAND BU I made of that particular ROM and it got 3 dots into the restore then said it couldnt be completed.
I am wondering if it couldnt be completed b/c the NAND BU was corrupted some how - or if this is actually not some thing you can do...
any info on this would be helpful...
JS3
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No problem, I love it... Also check out last months favorite app. I love that one too cause you can totally customize your texts and what not - It took me almost 4 hours of messing with settings to figure out EVERYTHING that handcent does...
Also thanks goes to teh, appriciate the info
That's wat I do I have several different backups of the most stable roms I like and switch to witch one I like just gota remember the date of backup
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That's wat I do I have several different backups of the most stable roms I like and switch to witch one I like just gota remember the date of backup
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If you use rom manager, or amon ra, you can rename them, so its easy to tell.
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If you use rom manager, or amon ra, you can rename them, so its easy to tell.
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Yeah, I knew you could rename them... I have been doing that - but for some reason I cant get my NAND BU of myns warm twopointtwo to work, I guess I'll just reflash it... I dunno...
If your battery is less than 30%-40% or something, Amon-Ra won't restore or backup. If it's not working, plug in your phone and try again. Also, I would upgrade to RA-2.3. Much better IMO, only version since 1.8 that I haven't had any trouble with. I had also sorts of issues with backups and restores either taking FOREVER or just plain not completing. For the first time, I'm at a point where i have like 5 ROMs on my phone and switch whenever I feel like.
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If your battery is less than 30%-40% or something, Amon-Ra won't restore or backup. If it's not working, plug in your phone and try again. Also, I would upgrade to RA-2.3. Much better IMO, only version since 1.8 that I haven't had any trouble with. I had also sorts of issues with backups and restores either taking FOREVER or just plain not completing. For the first time, I'm at a point where i have like 5 ROMs on my phone and switch whenever I feel like.
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Cool, yeah I may have had a bad battery level, I dont remember what my batery % was when I tried it but that makes sense... thanks, Also with the 2.3 I have it - I just havent flashed it yet... Thanks again
I would like to better understand how to correctly switch back and forth between roms.
Whenever I have put a rom on my phone, I have done a full wipe and reinstalled from scratch (and then made a nandroid backup.)
I don't understand what I need to do once I get my MikFroyo set up the way I want, what steps need to be taken to back it up how I have it and then how to correctly load up a new rom?
And another question, when I go from one ROM to another, if I use a backup of some sort to load up, what areas need to be wiped prior to restoring the backup's?
So what do I need to do in order to switch up between Sense based and AOSP roms depending on the mood and what I am feeling on any given day that will allow the least amount of time but the most accurate and correct method of doing this?
Thank you for the help,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I would like to better understand how to correctly switch back and forth between roms.
Whenever I have put a rom on my phone, I have done a full wipe and reinstalled from scratch (and then made a nandroid backup.)
I don't understand what I need to do once I get my MikFroyo set up the way I want, what steps need to be taken to back it up how I have it and then how to correctly load up a new rom?
And another question, when I go from one ROM to another, if I use a backup of some sort to load up, what areas need to be wiped prior to restoring the backup's?
Thank you for the help,
Whiteice
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The best bet to keep your settings would be to do a nandroid backup after you set it up the way you want and then rename the backup to say something like Latest Mikfroyo.
Then wipe, flash, and reinstall apps the way you want it either manually or using Titanium Backup or Appbrain. Then repeat for every ROM.
I have a ton of backups made already for almost all the ROMs out there and I switch back and forth for testing purposes.
Try not to keep the nandroid on your SD Card since it takes up a ton of space.
But there are differences between certain ROMs. Some might use A2SD or only work with a certain kernel. So you would have to keep those as well. Rename them to match the correct ROM as well. So MikFroyoKernel.zip for example.
Nandroids won't back up the correct kernel. So you would want to wipe > flash kernel (if needed) > reboot > boot into recovery > wipe > restore nandroid.
That will do it for the most part. But mind you, sometimes the nandroid will fail. Not sure exactly what causes this but you can always restore another backup. Sometimes flashing the original ROM then restoring works as well.
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So what do I need to do in order to switch up between Sense based and AOSP roms depending on the mood and what I am feeling on any given day that will allow the least amount of time but the most accurate and correct method of doing this?
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If you do full wipe won't have any problem going between Sense and AOSP. Just don't import your settings cause could mess things up.
Also, I always wipe/format the sd-ext as well. Depending on how you are set-up could have apps from the old rom show up in new after boot.
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If you do full wipe won't have any problem going between Sense and AOSP. Just don't import your settings cause could mess things up.
Also, I always wipe/format the sd-ext as well. Depending on how you are set-up could have apps from the old rom show up in new after boot.
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nope, it dont matter if ur going between aosp or sense, nand will restore everything... but u might wanna read up some more on the latest amon-ra recoveries dat have been released, because whenever i do a nand restore, i get stuck in a boot loop, n its quite annoying...
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nope, it dont matter if ur going between aosp or sense, nand will restore everything... but u might wanna read up some more on the latest amon-ra recoveries dat have been released, because whenever i do a nand restore, i get stuck in a boot loop, n its quite annoying...
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Only if there is an existing backup to go to. OP really didn't specify whether switching between Sense & AOSP backups or new installs in that last paragraph.
So what I did was the Cyanogen GPS fix by flashing back to a Sense rom, updating the GPS thing and then also updating my PRL list while I was there, I then flashed back to the backup of Cyanogen I took right before I did all of this.
A week later I ended up breaking stuff by messing around with changing kernels. I flashed back to the backup I took that I used up there in the first bit, the one I used after I fixed the GPS and updated the PRL. The difference this time is that I flashed back to my backup from recovery instead of the gui based rom manager.
Should everything still be in order or do I need to go back into Sense and do it all over again?
Everything should be good to go. Its like if you flashed a backup, you'd still be on the same radio you were on before. If you want to update, since there was one the other day, you can feel free to update, unless you did, then as I said, you're good to go.
Is the best (and only?) way to update the PRL to backup my current state in Cyan, restore back to my original root backup on the stock sense, then restore my backup from now?
I guess this means the PRL data is stored somewhere besides what gets overwritten during a backup and restore?
LordJezo said:
Is the best (and only?) way to update the PRL to backup my current state in Cyan, restore back to my original root backup on the stock sense, then restore my backup from now?
I guess this means the PRL data is stored somewhere besides what gets overwritten during a backup and restore?
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That's is correct on both notes.
You can also flash the PRL....someone around here makes it a flashable zip, but I've never used it, so that'd be on your own risk. Doing it the normal way takes all but 5 minutes, so to me its not that much a hassle.
I'm running cm7 and need to update my PRL. I know I need to be running a sense ROM to do this but would like to know before I begin. Can I simply flash a sense ROM over cm7, update PRL, then re flash my current setup (ROM, kernal, etc..)?
I remember when I was flashing different ROM's before I had to do full wipe and go through all the hassle's. I'm just trying to find the simplest and most painless procedure to update my PRL's.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Make a nandroid backup
Wipe and flash sense rom
update prl
restore nandroid
prls and the different radios stay on your phone between rom flashes and restores
will the nandroid backup restore all my apps and such too?
From my experience yes it will restore apps widgets layouts preferences everything besides prl will be the way you backed it up hope I could help
thanks for the help. ill let you know how it turns out.
No problem its why the forums are here
All is good! nandroid backup->full wipe->flash sense rom->update PRL->nandroid restore->PROFIT!! thanks again for the help, much appreciated!