I apologize in advance for wasting anyone's time, my LED on my phone died the phone got replaced but they performed all updates on it before I was given it. I can't find a method that works and don't particularly want to try unrevoked (unless I can switch back to toast's method).
Can someone give me some guidance.
Thanks,
fecht
Well Toast's method gives you the .76 boot loader, which you can get back after running unrevoked and then following the directions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752832.
So if Unrevoked works, that is what I would do.
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I have rooted my Hero before using some of the older methods, but will be purchasing an Evo in a couple of weeks and was just looking for a very simple explanation of the difference between unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever. Can anyone help answer that without starting another thread on the process of actually performing the root? I certainly do not want to create a duplicate thread. Thanks.
I just asked the same question yesterday. I read the entire unrevoked site, and searched like mad for at least an hour. From what i understand unrevoked used to just be a temporary unlock, in that S stayed ON, and you could lose root pretty easily, but unrevoked forever turned S off, so that your nand unlock remained regardless of what you flashed.
From what I understand though, with the latest unrevoked 3 (3.21), they basically do the exact same thing, but unrevoked forever is still useful for people that applied unrevoked, prior to the latest build, and now want a full nand unlock.
At least thats what I took from it.
ssolomon said:
I have rooted my Hero before using some of the older methods, but will be purchasing an Evo in a couple of weeks and was just looking for a very simple explanation of the difference between unrevoked 3 and unrevoked forever. Can anyone help answer that without starting another thread on the process of actually performing the root? I certainly do not want to create a duplicate thread. Thanks.
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Unrevoked 3 - Installs Super User and Clockwork and unlocks NAND
Unrevoked Forever - Turns S-OFF permanently unlocking NAND even if an official update removes clockwork and superuser NAND remains unlocked so you can just re flash them.
The latest version of Unrevoked 3 ver 3.2 and 3.21 both have Unrevoked Forever included to choose as an option. So just get Unrevoked 3 ver 3.21 and it includes them both in one easy install.
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Unrevoked 3 - Installs Super User and Clockwork and unlocks NAND
Unrevoked Forever - Turns S-OFF permanently unlocking NAND even if an official update removes clockwork and superuser NAND remains unlocked so you can just re flash them.
The latest version of Unrevoked 3 ver 3.2 and 3.21 both have Unrevoked Forever included to choose as an option. So just get Unrevoked 3 ver 3.21 and it includes them both in one easy install.
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In recovery, it shows s-off...I ran 3.21, does this mean my nand is permanently unlocked? Is that the default option with 3.21, I basically just ran it right "out of the box".
I think the unrevoked crew could do a better job of explaining this on the website. But don't take that the wrong way, they really don't owe anyone anything,we owe them and should be thankful for what we got, just a suggestion though.
Can someone please explain clearly the difference between Unrevoked 3 (.22) and Unrevoked Forever (for EVO use).
I've read both Wiki's and it seems, for the EVO, that both permanently give root, unlock NAND, and s-off.
If I root with Unrevoked 3, what exactly would be the reasoning for flashing Forever?
Please answer specifically for EVO use.
Thanks
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Unrevoked forever achieves S-OFF, which means, even if for some reason you become "unrooted" (such as accepting an OTA) you can always go to recovery and flash a rooted rom. S-OFF is a somewhat permanent NAND unlock.
Unrevoked 3.22 includes the forever flash after the root process, however, I have noticed sometimes it doesn't flash properly, so anyone using unrevoked 3.22, should verify they are S-OFF in bootloader. If you are still S-ON, then download and flash the unrevoked forever .zip until you get S-OFF.
Thanks, but its just hard for me to believe that the whole point of Forever is "just in case" you don't achieve s-off with 3.22. It has to do something extra right?
What is this stuff I've been reading that its not permanent... or is this just old info. When I read the 3.22 wiki it says that it "now" achieves root as of 3 whereas before it did not.
sent from my bad-ass EVO!
generalExpert said:
Thanks, but its just hard for me to believe that the whole point of Forever is "just in case" you don't achieve s-off with 3.22. It has to do something extra right?
What is this stuff I've been reading that its not permanent... or is this just old info. When I read the 3.22 wiki it says that it "now" achieves root as of 3 whereas before it did not.
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Well forever was released after other root methods. So people who rooted either manually or simple root or whatever.. won't have S-OFF, unrevoked were the first to come out with that, and the forever .zip download, lets those people have it too.
Old versions of unrevoked did not reach permanent nand unlock so you'll read a lot of old stuff about how unrevoked isn't a "full root", but now with forever, it does.
Ok, so by rooting with Unrevoked 3 I don't need to flash Unrevoked Forever, right? Because now with version 3 I achieve the same things that Forever does??...
Is this correct.
sent from my bad-ass EVO!
I rooted with unrEVOked 3 and have S-OFF so you should be fine.
generalExpert said:
Ok, so by rooting with Unrevoked 3 I don't need to flash Unrevoked Forever, right? Because now with version 3 I achieve the same things that Forever does??...
Is this correct.
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In theory yes, as I stated, unrevoked 3.xx has included the forever flash, but you just need to double check that it all went through, there have been many reports (in the IRC chan, and my own experience with a replacement EVO) that people are rooted but not S-OFF after finishing unrevoked 3.xx.
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I rooted with unrEVOked 3 and have S-OFF so you should be fine.
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As above.
op-put simply, do the unrevoked3.xx to root your phone. if you get s-off in the process then good no need to do anything else. if you still got s-on then you need to run unrevoked forever. simple as that. just because it worked for someone else does not mean that it will work for you. just do it and then verify it is nand unlock.
OK, just rooted my EVO for the 2nd time ever. Went pretty easy. However, I was using Ubuntu 10.10 64bit and it took a minute to figure out how to run the reflash program as a root user. I did get some errors about the radio not being supported and update failed. After a reboot I noticed that I did not have s-off but did have the ClockworkMOD recovery and the superUser Permission app. So, I ran unrevoked forever and viola I now have s-off (and the unrevoked splash screen). I see now why this is useful, just wondering why I had errors with my radio version.
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unrEVOked forever S-OFF patch v1.1
Verifying system type...
E:unsupported radio version
E:Update failed. Check /sdcard/soff.log.
E:Error in /data/local/unrevoked-forever.zip
(Status 42)
Installation aborted.
Failure at line 1:
install_zip DATA:local/unrevoked-forever.zip
Why the **** won't UnrEVOked 3.32 ****ing run on my Windows XP and EVO??? WHAT THE ****???
HTC Sync is NOT installed
USB debugging is enabled
What the **** am I missing here?
Did you install the driver from the help section?
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Did you install the driver from the help section?
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No... and I totally did read that! Crap! Thanks, hopefully that will be why...
So I would assume I just need to run the .exe file with the phone turned booted back up?
I hope I Don't have to redownload everything...
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Well forever was released after other root methods. So people who rooted either manually or simple root or whatever.. won't have S-OFF, unrevoked were the first to come out with that, and the forever .zip download, lets those people have it too.
Old versions of unrevoked did not reach permanent nand unlock so you'll read a lot of old stuff about how unrevoked isn't a "full root", but now with forever, it does.
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Using the engineering bootloader, like simple root did, has unlocked the NAND (s-off) since day one. Unrevoked just figured out a way to do it with other bootloader versions
Even more questions of whether I'm truly rooted or not...
First time posting although I've been lurking for quite a while so hopefully I don't get flamed out of here on my first attempt.
First I did root my Evo using unrevoked 3, all seemed to go well and correctly as I ended up with S-OFF, superuser app, etc. I created a backup and everything, (still running stock Sense ROM.) Do I need to try using Unrevoked Forever now?
I started reading posts about backing up RSA keys and WiMAX partitions etc and when I connected the phone (yes usb debugging and charge only); opened a command prompt and browsed to the ADB directory I never get the # confirming I have root access. (I only get the $)
Now from what I'm reading Clockwork mod backs up the WiMax anyway but I still wanted to walk through the process to get more familiar with it. I guess my first question is do I really need to back up the partition and keys if I have a successful nandroid backup?
Also I installed root check and the under the basic setting it said I had no root access, and then under the advanced setting it said I did.
I tried installing Ti backup and clicking under problems to install busy box thinking that may be the problem, but I don't see the setting it describes there where I can change to install busybox.
Finally I also downloaded the busybox installer. It gives two options of where to install it in either /system/bin/, or /system/xbin/....does it matter? Will installing it this way be ok or do I need to push through ADB? If I need to push through ADB then obviously I need to get my # root access figured out.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can try and help me make heads or tails of this situation.
Radio: 2.15.00.11.19
Software Number : 3.70.651.1
Hardware Version: 0003
HBoot: 2.10.0001
I'm trying to root my new Evo from Sprint. My HBoot is 2.02 and my baseband is 2.15.00.09.01 I was hoping to use unrevoked3 like I have in the past but every time that I run 3.22 I always get stuck on the second press hboot usb my phone never boots into the bootloader for me to do it. So when I do it myself it then says that there is an internal error and it cant find the misc. I don't know if it is because maybe my Evo is to updated and I have to wait for another Unrevoked. any information will help.
Thanks
Unrevoked3 currently cannot be used to root EVOs with HBOOT 2.02/2.10 because they have different partitions or something and can actually mess up your phone. The unrevoked dev team is working on updating unrevoked to work on the new EVOs.
If you want to root your phone now, you can check out either of the 2 methods listed below or wait for unrevoked to put out theirs.
[ROOT] ~~~ HTC EVO - Universal Auto Root ~~~ v1.9.4 (12/22/10)
or
[ROOT][GUIDE] HBoot 2.02/2.10 SOFF - Root! The Final Frontier Edition - Upd. 12.21.10
Thanks for the help. I guess I didn't read over the universal root enough. I thought it was something difficult, but it was extremely easy. Long but easy.
Unrevoked has a unrevoked beta for the new hardware phones, look around for it might help you with your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893033
Afternoon all,
I will try to provide all of the information I can in hopes someone can give me an idea on where I stand and where I need to go from here to get my phone the way I would like it.
Incoming Evo information:
MEID - A100000D98BC65
Version - 0002
Baseband - 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel - 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 #58
Build - 3.26.651.6
PRI - 1.34_003
PRL - 60674
Bootloader Information:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0000
Root Method - Simple Root (forget which version)
Quick Background:
I don't know much about rooting phones but have come to understand the process and reasons behind it over the past several months. Purchased my phone on release, rooted it very early, all is great. I have always had the S-ON feature on my phone and it seems that several ROM's I would like to take advantage of require the S-OFF feature as to my understanding, it means you have "full root". I could be/probably am wrong here.
With the talk of backing up RSA keys to not lose 4G and other hiccups popping up, I want to make sure I use the best possible method to get everything as it should be. I currently ran the original PC136IMG (I believe this is the RUU) to bring my phone to "stock". My reasoning behind this was to push my phone to full stock and re-root to attain the S-OFF feature.
Now when I boot into bootloader and attempt to flash, I get a black screen with an EVO and a Red triangle/exclamation sign. What throws me off is because I can get into the bootloader, running the aforementioned RUU didn't seem to unroot me. To be honest, I don't even know if there is a full unroot method even avilable as numerous Google searches really give a wide variety of answers.
What I am trying to do:
All I would like to do is unroot my phone and then re-root it with a newer method so I can have S-OFF feature and update all my Radios/PRI/etc.... that I need to do so I can get the full functionality of my phone. I *think* Calk has a thread on this and although I have read it numerous times, maybe I am to dense to get it and need a helping hand. If anymore information is needed, I am happy to oblige. Thanks to anyone who can lend me a hand.
You kind of jumped the gun with the unrooting, you could have just ran Unrevoked Forever and called it a day. But now that you are unrooted, use Unrevoked 3.32 and that will fully root your phone for you, including replacing your recovery (I believe it gives you Clockwork). Do that, you'll be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896298
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!
evolishesh said:
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
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Just go to settings system updates ,HTC update ,and make it phone search for ota,it should prompt u to download the 3.70 update and than ull know u r full unrooted and up to date,than run unrevoked ,,,,that way ull b updated and rooted...
Thanks for the quick advice. My only worry with unrevoked is I have heard that it has the possibility of losing RSA keys. Does that have any truth behind it or will unrevoked put me to S-OFF and from there I am golden.
I ran Unrevoked3 earlier today. I downloaded an Amon recovery img and had unrevoked install that (File / Custom Recovery) instead of Clockwork after hearing about some WiMax issues with Clockwork.
After completing the root, I did step 6A from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. This should back up the RSA keys, after the fact at least. You need to be rooted to complete the steps using adb.
So far no trouble with 4G. It connects to sprint and lets me transfer data, so things look good. FWIW, my radio is 2.15.00.11.19, with PRI 1.90_003, on software 3.70.651.1.
Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Glad you got it all worked out
I rooted my G2 awhile ago with a perma-root, and s-off. After that, I decided to sell it to get something better. I found only 1 good tutorial, and it showed you how to get back to stock. I did it, and it worked. It then updated to 2.3.4, S-Off is still S-Off. Long story short, I decided not to sell, and I want to reroot it. I know I have to downgrade for perma-root, but I read that if you try to downgrade 2.3.4 with S-Off, it becomes bricked. Someone please explain if I can just use the normal method, or is this more complicated than I think?
Thanks,
whatiznt.
Seeing as you have S-OFF, getting root is rather easy.
If you follow this guide, but do only the 'Gaining Temp Root' and 'Temp-Rooting to Backup' steps, you will have perm-root, and can then flash a recovery through ROM-Manager (or 4ext recovery app)
-Nipqer