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So I moved my apps2SD. Then installed a ROM. How do I get it to "find" the SD apps?

So I moved my apps2SD. Then installed a ROM. How do I get it to "find" the SD apps?
I'm being told that my SD card is full. AND my internal memory is full. I have a feeling that the apps are installed in 2 different places. Is this the case? How can I tell?
I'm a mess, don't know where to start. Thanks for any help.
Later!

What method did you use to move them to your SD card?
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dglowe343 said:
What method did you use to move them to your SD card?
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This app called SDMove.

I've never used that before. I've always used Dark Tremor A2SD. Most of the roms support it. It requires partitioning your SD card. It will also move dalvik to SD which really frees up space. It's recommended using a class 4 card or faster.
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dglowe343 said:
I've never used that before. I've always used Dark Tremor A2SD. Most of the roms support it. It requires partitioning your SD card. It will also move dalvik to SD which really frees up space. It's recommended using a class 4 card or faster.
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I never partitioned my SD Card. I guess that might be a problem, and is probably why they never show up on the SD Card? I don't know.
Does partitioning the card require reformatting the SD Card?

If you installed a new rom without doing a full wipe, the rom should load all your apps if there are no conflicts. Thd SDMove app is just an easier way to move apps that can be moved to SD storage instead of going through HTC's app management in settings.
In regards to DarkTremor's A2SD, yes you would have to reformat your SD card to create an ext 2 or 3 partition. Most custom roms should state whether a2sd is available and then you just setup the partition in recovery. Make a complete backup of your SD card onto your comp that includes a nandroid backup and Titanium backup or MyBackup Pro app+data set.

In order to determine if you have multiple copies of your apk's , use a file manager and search your evo. I use "app 2 sd" on the evo using root explorer I found that apk's are kept in "mnt/asec" and "mnt/secure/asec" , which are folders on the sdcard. Since you used an application to move your apk's to the sdcard and not the OS apps2sd, you should find only one occurrence of each apk.

[Q] Ext2 required for SD card apps (AuraxTSense rom)?

Hi,
I'm confused about the right way to run the Desire with apps on the SD card. I'm running AuraxTSense with a FAT 32 formatted SD card.
I was able to ADB and run pm setInstallLocation 2, and I have the option tomove apps to the SD card, In addition, Titanium Backup and Apps2Sd reports that most of my apps are successfully located on SD card. Also, on the SD card, I see an "ASEC" directory that seems to contain most of my apps; I thought that this was an indication that the apps were located there.
However, it doesn't seem like moving apps to the SD card has worked properly. Whenever I install an app, it looks like it goes on the SD card, but I lose the size of the app from my internal memory. Also, when I uninstall, the corresponding amount of space frees up in my internal memory. I've verified this with the DiskUsage app.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this? Should I have created an Ext2 partition for apps to successfully install just to the SD card?

Hey there,
It seems as if you are just using Froyo's built-in apps on SD card function.
This just takes some of the files from the app and places them in .android_secure on the SD card, but large parts of the application may still remain in internal memory.
You can see just how much is left in your internal memory by scrolling to an app in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. The "total" space taken in this screen is the space taken on your internal memory.
I'm afraid this is the best Froyo can do. If you have moved all apps to SD card you can and you're still running out of space, you may need to install a custom ROM with Apps2SD.
Hope this helps

aha.
Thanks, that cleared things up for me. I was puzzled when I did this
- checked cardiotrainer in 'Manage Applications', saw 2.5 mb total
- moved it to the phone, checked 'Manage Applications', saw 7.3 mb total
- moved it to SD card, saw 2.5 mb again
I didn't realize that the "total" was just the total in internal memory, and that only a portion of the app was getting moved.
thanks very much for the clarification.

craigcharlie said:
I didn't realize that the "total" was just the total in internal memory, and that only a portion of the app was getting moved.
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The "whole" of the app itself gets moved to SD card.
What does not get moved is:
1. The Dalvik cache entries
2. Any data stored in /data/data
Note that no version of "legacy" A2SD (i.e. those using an EXT partition on SD card) moves /data/data to SD card due to stability concerns.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, but compress the Dalvik cache using fusecompress.
Regards,
Dave

That's more great info, thank you.
After doing some research, I noticed that the AuraxTSense ROM supported Apps2Sd and Dalvik2Sd, both of which require an ext2 partition.
I decided to take the plunge and format my SD card to add an ext2 partition.
I used the following steps
- backed up everything to sdcard with titanium backup
- backed up all sdcard data to my pc
- used ROM manager to partition the card (512mb ext, 64 mb swap)
I've since rebooted and now my storage is reported at 122 mb, instead of 18
Simply put, this rocks. I've just copied all my data back to the SD card (including the ASEC folder, the apps I'd 'moved' to the card before relied on these files) and my apps seem to be working fine.
Now that I have all this space, I can actually move the more intensive apps back to the phone now, since this should increase performance.
thanks to all who answered, I hope this thread helps some people who were as frustrated as I was by the lack of space on this awesome phone!

foxmeister said:
The "whole" of the app itself gets moved to SD card.
What does not get moved is:
1. The Dalvik cache entries
2. Any data stored in /data/data
Note that no version of "legacy" A2SD (i.e. those using an EXT partition on SD card) moves /data/data to SD card due to stability concerns.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, but compress the Dalvik cache using fusecompress.
Regards,
Dave
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@foxmeister
Pls how do you do the fuse compress, need a guide.
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@scorror
Look at this thread here.
I suggest you read the entire thread, but post #29 contains the update zip relevant to the kernel on my device.
Regards,
Dave

Just another update to say that my phone is working great.
It's like a completely different phone. I thought that 2 or 3 FCs a day were normal. I haven't had one since I moved to this method.
I'd like to highlight that I unset pm setInstallLocation.
To be honest, I think that that caused many of my problems. I had several apps whose widgets kept disappearing after lock/reboot. after unsetting setInstallLOcation and reinstalling the offending apps, the widgets are no longer disappearing.
The phone seems faster as well. I read a comment some where that AuraxTSense might seem a bit slower if you didn't have an ext2 partition, and I have to say that in my experience this is definitely the case.

[Q] How do I move apps to SD card?

I'm running cyanogen 6.1 and go to applications and then click on one and click move to SD card but only like 1/4 or less sometimes of applications get moved to the SD card. Is that all that you can move or is there a way to move more?
I just used ROMmanager to partition my sd card thinking that would fix the problem but it didnt

froyo's built in move apps to sd card doesn't move every part of the app. Some stuff still resides and gets stored in your internal memory. This is why people still use apps2ext in froyo on the slide. There is a pretty good tutorial on how to set this up manually if you don't have a cm6.1 that someone built it in to (or you can download one of the cm6.1 based roms with it built in). It will help alot. Just moving the dalvik-cache to the ext partition will free up a bunch of internal memory.

About A2SD+

my a2sd storage is 683mb and internal storage is 63mb, what if my internal storage is full, what will happen, the left over file i install will go to a2sd storage? or it shows my internal memory is full and some apps need to be delete?

When internal memory is full you have to delete apps or if you have space on system partition left you can move them from /data/app to /system/app.
If you really want to install a lot of apps you might want to look in to changing your MDT partition or using Data2sd.

Bear in mind that you can also use cache cleaners to free up some space.
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then there's no point to get a a2sd+ partition more than 500mb right?

Is there a way to choose your apps to install to internal storage or a2sd+ storage?

You can make a partition of 512 MB, which should be suffice. If you plan on installing hundreds of apps, you may want to set your partition to 1024 MB.
You can choose to either install apps either to internal memory or partially (the app data) to external storage (sd card) in Settings > Applications > Manage Applications. Select the app, select 'Move to phone' or 'Move to SD card'. After installation of some apps, by default, will either install to internal memory or to the SD card.
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Here's a question I wondered about A2SD...
When you connect phone to USB/PC and mount the SD card as mass storage then the phone can't use the SD. Any apps which were installed on the normal SD partition (using Froyo move to SD) would stop working.
Am I right in assuming that this isn't true for the rooted A2SD EXTx partition - As windows can't see the EXTx partition would I be correct in thinking the phone would still have it mounted correctly. Apps installed on there (SMS app etc) would continue to work when the SD was mounted by PC. I currently have my card formatted with an EXT3 partition, but I'm running a non A2SD rom.
I noticed that ChompSMS now has the standard 'move app to SD' available, but I assumed that doing so would prevent the SMS working if my phone connected to PC for file transfers.
Ta.

Yes ext will stay mounted.

Is there a way to keep security apps such as track and protect or protector on the internal memory? Otherwise they would be easy to disable by just removing the sd card.

[Q] APPS2SD

Quick question.
I am running CM7 ggingerbread6, I have a 16GB SD card, a 512mb partition, and apps2sd installed. I have, I believe, moved the apps I want from my internal storage to my SD card. When I use root explorer, however, no files are on my partition.
Why is this?
Where does apps2sd save moved apps?
How can I transfer apps from my sd to my sd-ext?
Thanks in advance!

Apps2sd uses a file structure to store apps on the sd card. IIRC not the entire app, only a portion.
A2sd (darktremor) places the entire app on the sdcard, in the ext partition.
Here is a starting point for your search.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_169478586398411&ap=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708474&highlight=darktremor

I scanned thru the links you gave but can you tell me the main advantage of putting your apps on the SDcard? Is there something other than just having more free memory on internal storage? thanks

While on the topic of apps2sd, what's the consensus of having /data on the sd too (dt a2sd).