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ok guys i have a survivor EVO who survived for 12 minutes drowned in water, but my wifi, bluetooth and front cammera are not working, now i claimed as lost in the insurance and they are sending me a replacement for my phone, now my question is can i use the old drowned evo in METROPCS or that esn will be invalid?
It can be ported to evo just never used on sprint again. it can also go to cricket
dxtyle said:
ok guys i have a survivor EVO who survived for 12 minutes drowned in water, but my wifi, bluetooth and front cammera are not working, now i claimed as lost in the insurance and they are sending me a replacement for my phone, now my question is can i use the old drowned evo in METROPCS or that esn will be invalid?
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Yes, you can just flash it to metroPCS, there are tons of instructions out there. HOWEVER, I noticed you're in NYC. Just keep in mind the Metro PCS network in NYC and New england is quite new and uses the 1700mHz AWS band, which the evo does not support.
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Yes, you can just flash it to metroPCS, there are tons of instructions out there. HOWEVER, I noticed you're in NYC. Just keep in mind the Metro PCS network in NYC and New england is quite new and uses the 1700mHz AWS band, which the evo does not support.
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this means what exactly? not internet? or not service at all?
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this means what exactly? not internet? or not service at all?
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No service in any way, shape or form.
In my experience insurance doesn't report the esn to sprint if you only talk to the insurance folks directly. The only way to get it deactivated or marked as lost or stolen is to actually tell sprint. Whether it's asking them for the phone number of asurion and telling them the phone was lost or telling them in the store.
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dxtyle said:
ok guys i have a survivor EVO who survived for 12 minutes drowned in water, but my wifi, bluetooth and front cammera are not working, now i claimed as lost in the insurance and they are sending me a replacement for my phone, now my question is can i use the old drowned evo in METROPCS or that esn will be invalid?
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Also please do not forget that Insurance Fraud is bad. It causes higher deductibles for those that make claims, even those that are not making fraudulent claims.
If you have the device, water damaged or not, you are supposed to send it to Asurion. Asurion is not my friend, however I am a customer of theirs. I think that you should send the phone to them.
I do wonder why it was 12 minutes in the water and not 11 or 13. 11 minutes in the water sounds much more believable for an insurance claim than 12.
I do not like people to commit insurance fraud, however my employment is based on the basis of deterring insurance.
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Also please do not forget that Insurance Fraud is bad. It causes higher deductibles for those that make claims, even those that are not making fraudulent claims.
If you have the device, water damaged or not, you are supposed to send it to Asurion. Asurion is not my friend, however I am a customer of theirs. I think that you should send the phone to them.
I do wonder why it was 12 minutes in the water and not 11 or 13. 11 minutes in the water sounds much more believable for an insurance claim than 12.
I do not like people to commit insurance fraud, however my employment is based on the basis of deterring insurance.
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I'm just gonna say what everyone else is thinking... YOU'RE A DOUCHE! !
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I'm just gonna say what everyone else is thinking... YOU'RE A DOUCHE! !
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While I think he came off as kind of douche-y when he questioned the minutes the phone was dunked in water, I think he's quite right about everything else. It IS insurance fraud, and it WILL raise our deductible. Just a year ago it would cost $50 to replace a phone with asurion, now it costs double that.
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Also please do not forget that Insurance Fraud is bad. It causes higher deductibles for those that make claims, even those that are not making fraudulent claims.
If you have the device, water damaged or not, you are supposed to send it to Asurion. Asurion is not my friend, however I am a customer of theirs. I think that you should send the phone to them.
I do wonder why it was 12 minutes in the water and not 11 or 13. 11 minutes in the water sounds much more believable for an insurance claim than 12.
I do not like people to commit insurance fraud, however my employment is based on the basis of deterring insurance.
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How is not sending my dead phone to asurian going to raise insurance rates? ? Don't be stupid, will it hurt state farm when my body shop doesn't send back my totaled bumper after it paid my claim? ! They upped the deductable because phones cost more...
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How is not sending my dead phone to asurian going to raise insurance rates? ? Don't be stupid, will it hurt state farm when my body shop doesn't send back my totaled bumper after it paid my claim? ! They upped the deductable because phones cost more...
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I meant to hit the quote button but I hit the thanks button by mistake. Anyway, your example is pretty stupid. The point is he reported his phone lost or stolen when in fact it wasn't. I am sure that he new that if he reported it as damaged then he would have to return the damaged phone thats why he reported it as lost or stolen. If you report your car stolen but in reality you have it hidden somewhere in a friends garage then file an insurance claim isn't that fraud? If you drive your car into a brick wall and the insurance company totals your car out do you get to keep the totalled car to repair then sell it to someone else? Of course not, it becomes the property of the insurance company.
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I meant to hit the quote button but I hit the thanks button by mistake. Anyway, your example is pretty stupid. The point is he reported his phone lost or stolen when in fact it wasn't. I am sure that he new that if he reported it as damaged then he would have to return the damaged phone thats why he reported it as lost or stolen. If you report your car stolen but in reality you have it hidden somewhere in a friends garage then file an insurance claim isn't that fraud? If you drive your car into a brick wall and the insurance company totals your car out do you get to keep the totalled car to repair then sell it to someone else? Of course not, it becomes the property of the insurance company.
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I'm glad you think your perfect....
As much as we pay for these phones that are outdated six months later who gives a ****....
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I'm glad you think your perfect....
As much as we pay for these phones that are outdated six months later who gives a ****....
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I never said anything about being perfect, I also am not judging anyone or what they do. I could care less what anyone decides to do, that's their business but still, it is what it is and that's a fact. Also, what do you mean by as much as we pay for these phones? Do you remember what cell phones cost 5, 10 or 15 years ago and you gonna mention about the price of phones now? The price of these phones now are way more than reasonable for what we get even though its gonna be outdated in six months, thats just the nature of the industry. If you buy a new car today, in 6 months it aint gonna be worth **** either compared to what you paid for it so whats your point? If something happens to your car are you gonna commit fraud to get as much as you can out of the insurance company because you paid an arm and a leg for your car? Hell, what if your boss tells you one day that "as much as we pay you, you can blow me", is that ok? Like I said it is what it is and you cant dispute that. What ever you decide to do is your business and what ever the OP decides to do is his business, I was just pointing out the obvious facts without casting judgement.
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I'm glad you think your perfect....
As much as we pay for these phones that are outdated six months later who gives a ****....
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So.... your belief is that since you believe HTC is charging way too much for the phones, that makes it OK to steal from Asurion?
Do you not grasp the fact the Asurion has to pay for the phones they send out to people who commit fraud?
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So.... your belief is that since you believe HTC is charging way too much for the phones, that makes it OK to steal from Asurion?
Do you not grasp the fact the Asurion has to pay for the phones they send out to people who commit fraud?
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Asurion does not pay for our phones every body here that pays 7$
A month for 24 months. Is 168$ plus 100 dollar deductible they are effectively getting us to pay 268 dollars for us to get a refurbished replacement phone.... now granted my math is based on us having a 2 yr contract and that you only make a claim once a yr... sounds like they're winning to me.....
Just my theory on this as much as **** cost in this world of ours every now and then you've got to stick it to the man
Edit. Have you ever actually seen the invoice price of the Evo ..... buying a phone is worse than buying a car
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I meant to hit the quote button but I hit the thanks button by mistake. Anyway, your example is pretty stupid. The point is he reported his phone lost or stolen when in fact it wasn't. I am sure that he new that if he reported it as damaged then he would have to return the damaged phone thats why he reported it as lost or stolen. If you report your car stolen but in reality you have it hidden somewhere in a friends garage then file an insurance claim isn't that fraud? If you drive your car into a brick wall and the insurance company totals your car out do you get to keep the totalled car to repair then sell it to someone else? Of course not, it becomes the property of the insurance company.
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so lemme ask u something here, so if i report my phone damaged, i gotta returned and pay 100 dollars, but i reported lost, i still paid 100 dollars but guess what?? i have a spare battery and some parts in case i need it, so i guess is a pretty good deal... come on, if it was free to send the phone back and get a new one, i wouldve done it...
Insurance fraud is illegal on any level. $5 or $5 million dollars. By keeping the phone you are contributing to possible future increases of insurance rates or deductibles.
What I think is funny is that you openly admit to breaking the law on a public forum. Then, you continue to justify yourself. The law is the law.
Assurion is a business and their drive is to profit. If you do not want to support them then you have other options such as Best Buy Insurance or no insurance.
By returning the phone you are giving Assurion a possible chance to refurbish that phone and the ability to keep insurance rates and deductibles down.
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Insurance fraud is illegal on any level. $5 or $5 million dollars. By keeping the phone you are contributing to possible future increases of insurance rates or deductibles.
What I think is funny is that you openly admit to breaking the law on a public forum. Then, you continue to justify yourself. The law is the law.
Assurion is a business and their drive is to profit. If you do not want to support them then you have other options such as Best Buy Insurance or no insurance.
By returning the phone you are giving Assurion a possible chance to refurbish that phone and the ability to keep insurance rates and deductibles down.
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so what are u some insurance fraud cop?? if yes ill give u my address so u can come... stop bullshitting me, how can they prove i didnt lose my phone? so who cares, now, lemme tell u something, yes they here to make profit, but isnt it the money we pay every month their profit? come on.. send it back so they can reburbish it and then get money out of the phone i paid for? they getting more money out of me that the money i paid for the phone on sprint (WITH A 2 YEARS CONTRACT).. so NOPE they`re NOT getting my phone back, PERIOD! so u telling me that if if u buy a car and is messed up u gonna give away the money that u paid for it, and give it as a gift to the insurance company so they can fix it and sell it again (of course u getting nothing out of the sale) and still pay for the new car? (which problably wont be new either) i dont think so,. so please... think what would u do b4 trying to b perfect here
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In my experience insurance doesn't report the esn to sprint if you only talk to the insurance folks directly. The only way to get it deactivated or marked as lost or stolen is to actually tell sprint. Whether it's asking them for the phone number of asurion and telling them the phone was lost or telling them in the store.
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Of course they report it to Sprint, if they didn't they would be taking losses left and right.
I recently had a fire in my room recently and in protecting my phone from the fire and my buddies laptop i kind of had to throw my phone out of the way to save the laptop. This cause my sd card slot to break, now i need to take it in but i have CM7 and know sprint is gonna probably charge me to replace the phone even though i have the Equipment Protection Plan. Is there any possible way to flash Sprint Stock and turn s-on?
No need to unroot, and no need to take it to sprint. This is an insurance claim, not anything with sprint. You threw the phone, causing physical damage. Call Asurion and you will have to pay the 100 dollar deductible to get a replacement. And they dont care if its rooted or not.
and know sprint is gonna probably charge me to replace the phone even though i have the Equipment Protection Plan.
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Sprint doesnt deal with the ERP, that's through Asurion.
Actually i have the Total Equipment Protection plan is that still done that Asurion?
Total Equipment Protection still goes through asurion for insurance claims. And I'm fairly sure that what happened to your phone qualifies as something that requires an insurance claim.
I wanted to start this thread as sort of an informative type of thread. I know there will be other people wondering the same thing. I haven't had t-mobile in years and only dealt with sprint Asurion insurance.
I have been offered t-mobile insurance and I'm not really sure if it would be worth getting it. There were three options given and I wanted to get some insight from some customers that have gone through the insurance in the past. I am leaning towards the middle one that I think was 4.79.
Is this a good insurance to have or should I get the higher priced one that extends the warranty to two years?
Are there any issues over the phone when trying to get a replacement due to software or hardware issues?
How are the refurbs that are sent as replacement?
Here are the two options
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/addons...umHandsetProtection&tp=Svc_Sub_EqpmntProtnOvw
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http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/and...g1#coveragePop
I went with Squaretrade instead of Tmobile because of the deductible
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mziol said:
I went with Squaretrade instead of Tmobile because of the deductible
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Can you give some insight on what squaretrade is offering vs t-mobile?
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I went with Squaretrade instead of Tmobile because of the deductible
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I went squaretrade too, with coupon code it was only $90 and covers 2 years and by then I will be on a completely diff phone anyway..
if they cover screen replacement or water damage, it's a decent protection, if you are ... accident prone like me
i used to take those insurance, when i was in school and couldn't afford a new device very often.
once i started getting better jobs, i stopped taking those, as i was switching from phone to phone before i can even crack the old phone
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AllGamer said:
if they cover screen replacement or water damage, it's a decent protection, if you are ... accident prone like me
i used to take those insurance, when i was in school and couldn't afford a new device very often.
once i started getting better jobs, i stopped taking those, as i was switching from phone to phone before i can even crack the old phone
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Yeah that's kinda where I'm at with it. I am very careful with my phones and usually go through phones pretty quick. I will feel much better about it once I get a case. I always feel like I'm going to drop this thing. I don't know if it's the weight or the slender build.
i just use the tmobil insurance u brick or wreck ur phone u take it into tmobil they replace it with a new one or refurbished one!
have you looked at the Best Buy insurance?
they are pretty fair and fool prof and it's affordable but the rates varies from phone to phone, so you might want to check in store
AllGamer said:
have you looked at the Best Buy insurance?
they are pretty fair and fool prof and it's affordable but the rates varies from phone to phone, so you might want to check in store
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I got my phone through wirefly so I don't know if Bestbuy would warranty a purchase that wasn't at their store.
I did notice that squaretrade doesn't cover loss or theft so that wouldn't be an option.
I am leaning toward the PHP insurance option through T-mobile. Anybody here ever had any issues with that particular type of insurance?
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I got my phone through wirefly so I don't know if Bestbuy would warranty a purchase that wasn't at their store.
I did notice that squaretrade doesn't cover loss or theft so that wouldn't be an option.
I am leaning toward the PHP insurance option through T-mobile. Anybody here ever had any issues with that particular type of insurance?
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Thats the thing i dont like the no loss of theft. but that deductible is killer. i wonder if there is a way to sweet talk them. and i do understand its a deterrent to prevent people from breaking there phone to get the updated hardware as they make revisions or lie and say they lost the phone so they can get a dev phone.
I had cell phone insiranve since it was 1.99 it just a fall. Back they send it ecpress overnght and u pay lile 130 dedu.(smart phone) it worth it
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Baaed on the answers, I'm thinking that going the insurance route is the best option. This phone feels fragile so I'm going to cover my butt. I think the 4.79 insurance will do. Plus I can cancel at any time which makes It a better deal. I lobe this phone but I know from past experiences that I will probably keep it less than a year.
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Baaed on the answers, I'm thinking that going the insurance route is the best option. This phone feels fragile so I'm going to cover my butt. I think the 4.79 insurance will do. Plus I can cancel at any time which makes It a better deal. I lobe this phone but I know from past experiences that I will probably keep it less than a year.
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i got it as well. i would rather pay a little extra so im not always worried about the phone. better to have it and not need then to need and not have. replace the phone once and its payed for its self.
ive had/have premium asurion insurance thru tmobile. they cover 3 phones in a 12 month period. i know because ive lost 4 phones already and was left with no choice but to buy the sgs2 lol.
the deductible is what kills you. for any smart phone whether its damaged, lost or stolen, you have to pay 130.00 PERIOD and that includes free overnight shipping. if you order your new phone monday morning you will have it by tuesday afternoon. theres no sweet talking or getting yourself out of that deductible EVER. if your a clutz like me the insurance is worth it. 130 beats 500 any day.
asurion covers stolen, lost, theft, water damage, etc. i guess they dont really care what your excuse is for whatever happened to your phone because your getting ass raped with a deductible. either way i WOULD recommend them. its a small price to pay and believe if you ever do lose your phone you will be more than thankful that you had insurance on it
They are both worth it. DO NOT go with tie protection plan. They never keep up their end. It's pointless and it's money down the drain. With T-Mobile insurance and warranty... you get a phone... you damage it... there is a deductible. If it's the phone itself, the warranty covers it. Better to pay the deductible then retail of the phone. The phones aren't getting cheaper. You have to think MSRP.
I've been selling phones for dealers and corp for 5+ years. Insurance is a double edged sword. Yes it costs more monthly, yes it adds up and yes there is a deductible. So it's a gamble. Is it worth it? Yes. Is it worth it if nothing goes wrong with the phone? No. But that's the gamble.
Warranty... Personally I'll pass. I don't keep phones past the first year. The phone is covered by manufacturer warranty and I believe the carrier will handle the swap for you. You're paying for the second year in contract for the warranty part... So you pay it the first year when it's covered anyway.
Insurance covers everything... then there is a deductible. Anything happens to the phone, you make a claim and get one the next day. Handled by Asurion.
If you add up the monthly charge for insurance alone + the deductible... you're looking at about $250. If nothing happens and you keep your phone, then you paid insurance for nothing. But that's just insurance... that's how insurance works. If you break it, lose it or get it wet within the first couple months... pay the deductible and get a new one... was insurance worth it? Yes.
Next year... let's say something happens... you've been paying on insurance, pay the deductible. Could you maybe have bought the phone from someone else and saved a little coin? Yes.
It's basically good to have insurance if something happens in the first few months. I recommend putting it on at first and maybe ween yourself off it. But some of you are like me...
Am I too cheap to pay for insurance? Yes.
Will I get insurance? Probably for the first couple months.
Do I have the phone for 6+ months? No.
If I don't have insurance, am I willing to drop $500+ on the latest phone? Sure. I guess I have to.
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I got my phone through wirefly so I don't know if Bestbuy would warranty a purchase that wasn't at their store.
I did notice that squaretrade doesn't cover loss or theft so that wouldn't be an option.
I am leaning toward the PHP insurance option through T-mobile. Anybody here ever had any issues with that particular type of insurance?
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Hey, I got my daughter's Sidekick 4G through Wirefly and they offered some kind of insurance for like $70 up front or in monthly installments. And I do believe it covered accidents and theft. Check into it.
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They are both worth it. DO NOT go with tie protection plan. They never keep up their end. It's pointless and it's money down the drain. With T-Mobile insurance and warranty... you get a phone... you damage it... there is a deductible. If it's the phone itself, the warranty covers it. Better to pay the deductible then retail of the phone. The phones aren't getting cheaper. You have to think MSRP.
I've been selling phones for dealers and corp for 5+ years. Insurance is a double edged sword. Yes it costs more monthly, yes it adds up and yes there is a deductible. So it's a gamble. Is it worth it? Yes. Is it worth it if nothing goes wrong with the phone? No. But that's the gamble.
Warranty... Personally I'll pass. I don't keep phones past the first year. The phone is covered by manufacturer warranty and I believe the carrier will handle the swap for you. You're paying for the second year in contract for the warranty part... So you pay it the first year when it's covered anyway.
Insurance covers everything... then there is a deductible. Anything happens to the phone, you make a claim and get one the next day. Handled by Asurion.
If you add up the monthly charge for insurance alone + the deductible... you're looking at about $250. If nothing happens and you keep your phone, then you paid insurance for nothing. But that's just insurance... that's how insurance works. If you break it, lose it or get it wet within the first couple months... pay the deductible and get a new one... was insurance worth it? Yes.
Next year... let's say something happens... you've been paying on insurance, pay the deductible. Could you maybe have bought the phone from someone else and saved a little coin? Yes.
It's basically good to have insurance if something happens in the first few months. I recommend putting it on at first and maybe ween yourself off it. But some of you are like me...
Am I too cheap to pay for insurance? Yes.
Will I get insurance? Probably for the first couple months.
Do I have the phone for 6+ months? No.
If I don't have insurance, am I willing to drop $500+ on the latest phone? Sure. I guess I have to.
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yea i see where you are coming from. just wish i was in a different industry where my phone would not be exposed to so many elements.
Get the bundle. Sure it may be $7/month, but the insurance and warranty cover phones that you buy in the future too. (Even second hand phones)
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Get the bundle. Sure it may be $7/month, but the insurance and warranty cover phones that you buy in the future too. (Even second hand phones)
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where do i find this information
I've heard some folks talk about Samsung warranty service. What are the stipulations of doing it through them vs a Sprint corporate store? Also, do you get a new phone through Samsung, or do they send you a refurb?
I am in a process of doing the same thing but I called sprint and they said it's still under warranty from Samsung so they will check it out. This guy did it check
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24986685
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When I got my E4GT replaced they gave me refurb
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I sent my phone into samsung after sprint told me they couldn't do anything because it was rooted (morons). Anywho, they shoot you a ups label, print it, ship it out with 3 sides having the ticket number on it. They give you a link in an email so you can track the progress through repair, haven't gotten my phone back yet, but from what the ticket updates say, it seems like they are just repairing my phone i sent in. If that changes, i'll let you know.
what was wrong with your phone?
Ask for a white one, most likely it will be brand new
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Sprint cs Rep told me to get TEP Insurance and take it to sprint store they don't care when u get it they just look at u have it or not. I am getting my replacement in 3 days.
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You will more than likely get a refurbished unit.
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I sent my phone into samsung after sprint told me they couldn't do anything because it was rooted (morons). Anywho, they shoot you a ups label, print it, ship it out with 3 sides having the ticket number on it. They give you a link in an email so you can track the progress through repair, haven't gotten my phone back yet, but from what the ticket updates say, it seems like they are just repairing my phone i sent in. If that changes, i'll let you know.
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Thats company policy (moron).
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Sprint cs Rep told me to get TEP Insurance and take it to sprint store they don't care when u get it they just look at u have it or not. I am getting my replacement in 3 days.
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Don't listen to this kid. They do know when your insurance was added, and they do care. He is suggesting you commit insurance fraud.
If the Sprint rep told you to jump off a bridge would you do that?
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You will more than likely get a refurbished unit.
Thats company policy (moron).
Don't listen to this kid. They do know when your insurance was added, and they do care. He is suggesting you commit insurance fraud.
If the Sprint rep told you to jump off a bridge would you do that?
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Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom. TEP and asurion are NOT real insurance and insurance laws don't apply to them, it would be just plain fraud, which would be hard to prove since fraud means you did something with the intention to get something more for free by intentionally doing something to get it, ie smashing your phone or microwaving it to get an upgraded device and not a replacement for a malfunctioning/broken device. I work in property insurance and even certain things that are blatantly done to be able to up the value of the claim in the policy holders favor isn't considered fraud. Either way Asurion and TEP are not insurance, insurance law doesn't apply to them which is why they are called device/equipment protection and not device/equipment insurance. In my state (FL) they aren't allowed to use the word insurance in their advertisement or paperwork because the law says they aren't an insurance company are not governed in the same way as insurance companies and never will be because they are a monopoly and there is no competition in prices you have the choice of asurion or nothing and it is contracted through the carrier and not chosen by the customer with a choice to shop for a competitive premium/deductible
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Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom. TEP and asurion are NOT real insurance and insurance laws don't apply to them, it would be just plain fraud, which would be hard to prove since fraud means you did something with the intention to get something more for free by intentionally doing something to get it, ie smashing your phone or microwaving it to get an upgraded device and not a replacement for a malfunctioning/broken device. I work in property insurance and even certain things that are blatantly done to be able to up the value of the claim in the policy holders favor isn't considered fraud. Either way Asurion and TEP are not insurance, insurance law doesn't apply to them which is why they are called device/equipment protection and not device/equipment insurance. In my state (FL) they aren't allowed to use the word insurance in their advertisement or paperwork because the law says they aren't an insurance company are not governed in the same way as insurance companies and never will be because they are a monopoly and there is no competition in prices you have the choice of asurion or nothing and it is contracted through the carrier and not chosen by the customer with a choice to shop for a competitive premium/deductible
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Idaho is Similar in calling it the protection plan. But when all is said and done pay for the protection plan is mainly a guarantee that one way or another that we will have a solution for you. Yeah you can go through Samsung but you can run the risk of getting your "Broken" phone back after waiting for 6-8 weeks, with no solution. Usually paying the 35 and doing an store replacement will be easier on the pocket book as well as alot faster 2-5 days at the most. This will also allow you to add the TEP if you want.
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Idaho is Similar in calling it the protection plan. But when all is said and done pay for the protection plan is mainly a guarantee that one way or another that we will have a solution for you. Yeah you can go through Samsung but you can run the risk of getting your "Broken" phone back after waiting for 6-8 weeks, with no solution. Usually paying the 35 and doing an store replacement will be easier on the pocket book as well as alot faster 2-5 days at the most. This will also allow you to add the TEP if you want.
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The worst part of asurion is they have no QC on what type of refurbs they send out, most of the time you get some kind of crap phone with more problems and aesthetic damage than the one you're having replaced. This is one reason why I don't have asurion or TEP. The other being that all my electronics are covered under my homeowners policy and any portable electronics (cell phones, laptops, PSP, gameboy, mp3 players etc) are covered in and out of the house from loss, theft or damage. I pay nothing extra on my premium and my deductible is $50 per device. If anything happens to my device (no matter what or what kind of device) instead of paying asurion or sprint my money up front, I file a claim with my insurance company, and 3 days later I get a check for the full MSRP of the device less $50. So if my phone is $600 off contract I would get a check for $550 which I can do whatever I want with. I could add my $50 to it and buy a brand new phone or I could cash the check buy a used device and pocket the difference. What makes it even nicer is my insurance payment are direct deposited to my bank account so i don't have to wait for a check to clear, and I get my funds in 12-72 hours depending on the time/day I filed my claim.
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Company policy is to work on rooted devices unless it is a software issue and you are on a custom rom then you need to go back to a stock rom.
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Service is refused if the device is not running the correct software, short of a failed charging port.
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Service is refused if the device is not running the correct software, short of a failed charging port.
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Not for both of mine that have been replaced. My tech guy was running CM9 on his personal Nexus S 4g, and I told him mine were rooted and were running a ROM when the problem occurred. The first bricked one I was able to get access to the internal sd card and format it and put stock recovery back on it and the second one had the blue led of death so it didn't matter what it was running.
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Not for both of mine that have been replaced. My tech guy was running CM9 on his personal Nexus S 4g, and I told him mine were rooted and were running a ROM when the problem occurred. The first bricked one I was able to get access to the internal sd card and format it and put stock recovery back on it and the second one had the blue led of death so it didn't matter what it was running.
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I mean I don't care personally and I still work on them myself, but the word from above says otherwise. Seems to vary day by day though.
I filed for a claim 8/03/2012, and it has been on back order ever since. I have a cracked glass that's usable, and can barely be seen. Every thing functions as it should, and I was thinking just get a repair, but went the insurance route. After waiting until Tuesday I called Samsung to see what the repair cost for a cracked glass was, and I found out that they charge $178.50 to repair and to next day air there and back included in that cost.
I called Asurion to cancel and go the Sammy route because I was tired of waiting, and the chance that I could get a used refurbed GS III also help me to come to this decision. They won't cancel, and even though I was never sent the phone they tell me that I can not cancel once I put in a claim. Now this is rediculous in my eyes, what do you guys think. I am going to cancel my TEP and not worry after this is over because I get a years warranty from Samsung, and never had to use insurance ever since being with Sprint, and for 11.00 monthly plus 150.00 deductible I think Sammy repairing is cheaper if you have a case "which I didn't at the time that I dropped it 2nd day BTW" and need a crack repair.
I am not worrying about theft, and on my second line want a Nexus when it comes out at years end possibly, and my luck with holding onto and maintaining a phone is stellar so far minus this incident.
You can get cracked glass repaired for 28.00 more and no TEP cost if you go the route that I am going now because of this.
Back ordered still and patiently waiting!
Did you miss the part about NON-REFUNDABLE DEDUCTIBLE.
When you receive the replacement, just ship it back to them. You're still out the $150 though.
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Did you miss the part about NON-REFUNDABLE DEDUCTIBLE.
When you receive the replacement, just ship it back to them. You're still out the $150 though.
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Yeah dude, it says something along the lines of THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE right before you click the button.
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Yeah dude, it says something along the lines of THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE right before you click the button.
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Sunsparc said:
Did you miss the part about NON-REFUNDABLE DEDUCTIBLE.
When you receive the replacement, just ship it back to them. You're still out the $150 though.
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It also says they will ship the phone within 7-10 business days which they have not....it is still back ordered. Therefore the deal can be canceled. In fact I let them know this tid bit, not only that it's not in the insuring clause of the contract therefore that non refundable crap is ambiguous, and any ambiguity in a contract where money is exchanged is null and void and all benefits go to the consumer.
The CS supervisor spent an hour trying to find the non refundable in the insuring clause and did not. They said they will call me when they find it However; they will not because that insuring clause is only a few paragraphs. Just to let you the unknowing know that every contract has a binder, and in that binder there must be clear concise wording of what will happen for the consideration "money". This is called the insuring clause or agreement in this case. If that clause does not have such wording the contract cannot have non refundable added when customers click buy.
They tried to stick me with paying overage for roaming last year while I was in Florida roaming, but I didn't let them. I told them that on their web site, and all printed literature including the contract it states unlimited roaming. They alerted me that it says it in small print in the back of the contract about limited roaming. I then pointed out to them the laws that protect the consumer from deceptive unclear contracts like that. I told them I could use all the unlimited data that I wanted until they cleared up the wording in that contract, and then issue the new contract to everyone stating the new terms with no ambiguity. They backed off. Then the next month they changed the contract to state that roaming is limited to 300 minutes on another network other than Sprint.
You all should know the laws and read contracts so that "you" don't get screwed. All this to say they can't make a contract and then change it when you are paying or it is null in void in a court of law, and you get a refund. Also this subject really is about letting you all know that for 178.50 you can get a cracked screen repaired shipped and picked up next day by Samsung.
If I pay 11.00 a month to now have been waiting since August 3, 2012 to now I could have had my phone back from Samsung with out having to worry if it is someones used refurbished phone. This would only cost me 28.50 more than my deductible which sent a bell ringing in my head that said I don't need insurance if the repair is 178.50 with out a monthly fee of 11.00. Why pay 132.00 a year and 150 deductible when you can pay yourself and pay Sammy to repair it properly. Since I am no worried about dropping or losing my phone I have decided to drop TEP.
Dropping the TEP for less costly repairs from Samsung, and next day service seems like a better deal for me......I leave this information for you to decide. Some of you may decide 11.00 monthly for possible refurbished phone is ok. Some of you may think that I may lose my phone so I need insurance. Some of you may say TEP is no big deal and go the route that I am going for such a small fee.
I agree...but what if your phone gets lost or stolen? If half the things covered by your insurance are things that you aren't worried about then yes it makes perfect sense that you may not need the insurance...but keep in mind not everybody is interested in throwing away lost/stolen coverage..or water damage...or shock damage beyond just a simple broken screen...or all the other things insurance covers. I'm glad you got lucky and only had minor damage that was repairable by Samsung....this time.
Backorders can be frustrating...hell if anything it makes me feel better when they don't have a large refurb pool of my phone to draw on...it means people have been very happy with the device so far and there hasn't been a lot of buyer's remorse or minor issues resulting in a ton of refurb devices. But this seems like you've freaked out and wasted a lot of your time and energy because you don't want to wait on a backorder...not to mention the large amount of stress it sounds like you're putting yourself through. Is it really worth it when you essentially as you said have a still usable phone and just have to wait a little while?
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I agree...but what if your phone gets lost or stolen? If half the things covered by your insurance are things that you aren't worried about then yes it makes perfect sense that you may not need the insurance...but keep in mind not everybody is interested in throwing away lost/stolen coverage..or water damage...or shock damage beyond just a simple broken screen...or all the other things insurance covers. I'm glad you got lucky and only had minor damage that was repairable by Samsung....this time.
Backorders can be frustrating...hell if anything it makes me feel better when they don't have a large refurb pool of my phone to draw on...it means people have been very happy with the device so far and there hasn't been a lot of buyer's remorse or minor issues resulting in a ton of refurb devices. But this seems like you've freaked out and wasted a lot of your time and energy because you don't want to wait on a backorder...not to mention the large amount of stress it sounds like you're putting yourself through. Is it really worth it when you essentially as you said have a still usable phone and just have to wait a little while?
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All too true, but I make sure that my phone is protected from rain at all times. I have a case and a secure leather case to slide it in. I make sure I put it in a car cradle when driving. I won't worry about lost or stolen because I secure it at all times. Remember also that insurance is actuarial based on probability, and they bet you the average person won't lose or break it as much as you think that you may. So my only fear for insurance was cracking or dropping. I have a case, and I am not worried about that any more since the cost is less than having a TEP plan.
The only thing that irks me is the lies that I have been told while it was still back ordered. Yes it still works, but after trying TEP I find the service lacking, and more costly than Samsung repairing it. Not to mention the fact that at one point I get someones refurbished phone in the future. Now I may be lucky to get a new phone but in the future I may not. I now still may get a new phone who knows. I am not worried about breaking or lost/stolen or water damage....my only fear was a cracked screen since Sprint has decided not to repair them thus far.
Again you decide with the cost being so low from Sammy for repair or go Asurion!
the sprint TEP is a total rip off.. i can't believe it's $11/mo now with a $150 deductible.. i remember when i got my touch pro 2 (which was a $500 device at the time) i was only paying $4/mo + $50 deductible.
either there was a huge increase in fraud where people were constantly sending claims that forced sprint/asurion to increased the insurance, or sprint just got greedy and wanted to make a profit from the insurance program.
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the sprint TEP is a total rip off.. i can't believe it's $11/mo now with a $150 deductible.. i remember when i got my touch pro 2 (which was a $500 device at the time) i was only paying $4/mo + $50 deductible.
either there was a huge increase in fraud where people were constantly sending claims that forced sprint/asurion to increased the insurance, or sprint just got greedy and wanted to make a profit from the insurance program.
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Any device $549.99 or higher MSRP has the $11 monthly plus $150 deductible, has nothing to do with fraud.
I never really got why people think so badly of refurbs...all phones become refurbs the second they're out of the box. I feel like the vast majority of devices that get returned and turn into refurb units are perfectly harmless things like easily replaceable components on otherwise perfectly fine phones (like your broken screen), buyers remorse returns, morons that swear their phone is broken when they're just doing something wrong or lying about how they're using the phone, or lazy sprint reps that could easily fix whatever the problem is but don't and just replace it instead.
I suspect a very small percentage of refurb units are genuine lemons or have defective hardware that has escaped detection...you probably have the same odds of getting one of those new out of the box.
As we in this community are well aware....most of the time issues with phones lies in the software not the hardware. That doesn't change with a refurb.
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the sprint TEP is a total rip off.. i can't believe it's $11/mo now with a $150 deductible.. i remember when i got my touch pro 2 (which was a $500 device at the time) i was only paying $4/mo + $50 deductible.
either there was a huge increase in fraud where people were constantly sending claims that forced sprint/asurion to increased the insurance, or sprint just got greedy and wanted to make a profit from the insurance program.
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Well do you think they offer insurance to break even ? Thanks for the laugh
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i've been waiting on a replacement for about 2 weeks now. cracker screen. thinking about sending it to samsung since i reported the phone stolen threw asurion. didnt tell sprint anything.
If you reported it stolen through them it reports to sprint as well.
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This happened to me but is because we do not read the fine print. MONEY IS NOT REFUNDABLE PERIOD. i lost my GS3 and reported it, after an hour i got a call from my wife that she found the phone and i called asurion to cancel my report and refund my deductable, they say it was not possible. Well i got a new GS3 from asurion $150 deductable. Sold my bad esn one on ebay for $420. much better deal if u ask me.
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the sprint TEP is a total rip off.. i can't believe it's $11/mo now with a $150 deductible.. i remember when i got my touch pro 2 (which was a $500 device at the time) i was only paying $4/mo + $50 deductible.
either there was a huge increase in fraud where people were constantly sending claims that forced sprint/asurion to increased the insurance, or sprint just got greedy and wanted to make a profit from the insurance program.
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Sprint as an agent for Asurion is making money regardless of any fool that thinks they are not. A Corporate store Tech told me for some reason they told them they were not going to repair screens any more all of a sudden. Why replace a screen for when you can get $150.00
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I never really got why people think so badly of refurbs...all phones become refurbs the second they're out of the box. I feel like the vast majority of devices that get returned and turn into refurb units are perfectly harmless things like easily replaceable components on otherwise perfectly fine phones (like your broken screen), buyers remorse returns, morons that swear their phone is broken when they're just doing something wrong or lying about how they're using the phone, or lazy sprint reps that could easily fix whatever the problem is but don't and just replace it instead.
I suspect a very small percentage of refurb units are genuine lemons or have defective hardware that has escaped detection...you probably have the same odds of getting one of those new out of the box.
As we in this community are well aware....most of the time issues with phones lies in the software not the hardware. That doesn't change with a refurb.
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It's because ever "refurb" that I got in the past was pure utter garbage.....never ever functioned properly.
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Well do you think they offer insurance to break even ? Thanks for the laugh
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Wake up, make money but to stop making 35.00 repairs to charge 150.00 is a rip off Mr. Millionaire.
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Sprint as an agent for Asurion is making money regardless of any fool that thinks they are not. A Corporate store Tech told me for some reason they told them they were not going to repair screens any more all of a sudden. Why replace a screen for when you can get $150.00
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lol sprint got greedy and wanted to make profit on insurance
of course you numb skull. they are bleeding money. they eat 400 bucks when you buy the phone, and you want them to subsidize your insurance too?
no need to be a douche bag. sprint insurance was $3/$4 for many years with $50 deductible on $500 devices. obviously it wasn't about profits back then, but it doesn't mean the rate has been hiked to $11/mo and $150 deductible because they want to make profit.. it's been widely known the reason for the increase is more related to the amount of insurance scam and fruad.. as in people filing fraudulent claims simply to get a new phone.
They're in business to make money...don't buy it if you think it's a rip off, I don't
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no need to be a douche bag. sprint insurance was $3/$4 for many years with $50 deductible on $500 devices. obviously it wasn't about profits back then, but it doesn't mean the rate has been hiked to $11/mo and $150 deductible because they want to make profit.. it's been widely known the reason for the increase is more related to the amount of insurance scam and fruad.. as in people filing fraudulent claims simply to get a new phone.
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If that was truly the case they would not have stopped capable techs from making glass replacement repairs. Wake up man...I found an official outer glass for 25.00 yet I send a perfectly good phone in for $150.00, when a;; it needs a 25.00 repair. Insurance has never replaced any thing completely unless it was a total loss because to do that is costly. You break a window in the car insurance companies are "NOT" going to give you a new car, but they will give you a new glass. However to not repair a 25.00 screen and collect 150.00 then do the 25.00 repair and resell that phone for 150.00 is a steal for them.......wake up!