I've been lingering around here for a while without putting my voice out so hello. So Hello!
Anyway, I live in Philly and we have 4G but I rarely ever find the need for it. So I've been considering moving over to CM6 permanently. Why? Because CM6 has a good HID Bluetooth stack. I'm currently running Fresh Evo 3.1.0.2 with Netarchy's 4.0.3 Toastmod Kernel. The phone is running very smooth but I'm longing to play NES Games with a wiimote. (Ya, I know it's silly, but whatever!)
My question is, has anyone heard from flipz, or netarchy, or kings, etc about whether or not they plan on attempting to implement a uncrippled version of froyo with Sense and the true android bluetooth stack?
ah you havnt lurked enough!
the problem is with the bt stack AND sense. seems they dont work well together, something in sense causing conflicts, maybe a custom library (i dont know)?
either way its not that the devs DONT want to do it, they currently cant.
cm6 is cool, i like it and use it currently as my daily rom. however i havnt paired a controller with it. id rather play snes roms myself. some good old chrono tirgger and ff3 <3
nenn said:
cm6 is cool, i like it and use it currently as my daily rom. however i havnt paired a controller with it. id rather play snes roms myself. some good old chrono tirgger and ff3 <3
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Ya, that too. I just wanna play thru goonies II & metroid, then I'll start looking at SNES stuff.
So basically we need HTC to either fix the conflicting libs, or release source for Sense so the community can fix it themselves.
nenn said:
ah you havnt lurked enough!
the problem is with the bt stack AND sense. seems they dont work well together, something in sense causing conflicts, maybe a custom library (i dont know)?
either way its not that the devs DONT want to do it, they currently cant.
cm6 is cool, i like it and use it currently as my daily rom. however i havnt paired a controller with it. id rather play snes roms myself. some good old chrono tirgger and ff3 <3
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Wait a minute.....are you saying that with CM6, I may be able to pair my phone to a PS3? Or what if Sense is completely removed from my current Fresh rom and I use Launcher Pro.....will that allow the BT stack to be more compatible with other devices?
Just a shot in the dark, really.
rugedraw said:
Or what if Sense is completely removed from my current Fresh rom and I use Launcher Pro.....will that allow the BT stack to be more compatible with other devices?
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Sadly no... It's rooted deeper than that.
mintee said:
Sadly no... It's rooted deeper than that.
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Hmmmm......I think I'm going to have to get get CM6 on my phone just to try it out. If it works, I can always back up my roms and go back from one to the other. Maybe I'll like the CM6 rom and keep it since there is no 4G in Miami yet. CM6 is one of the few I haven't experimented with yet.
mintee said:
Ya, that too. I just wanna play thru goonies II & metroid, then I'll start looking at SNES stuff.
So basically we need HTC to either fix the conflicting libs, or release source for Sense so the community can fix it themselves.
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Goonies II . . . classic.
"Ouch! What do you do?"
The wiimote is pretty cool. I have one of the retro gamepad bluetooth wii controllers and had it working great with CM6 with SNES, NES and Sega emulators.
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Hi everyone,
Is it possible to add the HID BT Profile to the Evo stock ROM? I don't feel like flashing a new rom just yet to get this feature added, but was curious if anyone knew of anyways to get HID BT working. Thanks in advance.
That would be awesome. I keep going back to Cyanogen to type my lecture notes with my BT keybaord. I wish Myn's or Fresh had it incorporated but I think the issue is that they both are Sense Roms and not AOSP
Right now the answer is NO, but Teksoft is working on it.
http://www.teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=2611
They are asking for beta testers for their upcoming version. No word on when they will be testing tho.
Good to hear, thanks for the updates.
Ava has been working on it too. He mentioned it might come around the same time as v10, but it also sounds like he has been busy. You might want to keep up with his twitter.
Okay, let me state my dilemma:
- I don't really like the Sense ROMs like the stock, LeeDroidHD, RevolutionHD,... mainly because 1. the style insn't really my thing and 2. they have the bluetooth issue and I like playing games with the wireless classical Wii controller, wich I can't with Sense ROMS.
- I love CM6 & 7 and MIUI apart from the fact that they have the "black unresponsive screen after call"-problem... wich really is a dealbreaker (you can't go around yanking out your battery every time someone calls you, it's a $600 phone, you expect it to be able to make calls propperly... it's madness)! I think the problem might have to do because of the missing Rosie/Sense wich the Desire HD needs to work okay. Or at least to not have the stupid "black screen"-problem...
Now my question (and hope) is regarding the MoDaCo ROM:
Does anyone know if I can strip of the Sense-ish stuff in the kitchen so you have the look and feel of stock Android (Froyo), but keep the core of Rosie so it can handle the phone fine?
Isnt there already a modaco rom like that
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TakoLuffer said:
Isnt there already a modaco rom like that
Sent from George2.0 (G2)
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You got a name (or better: a link) of that one?
Roelosaurus said:
You got a name (or better: a link) of that one?
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doing that would defeat the object of what you want, if you stripped down a sence rom, you could make it feel aosp but it would still be using the htc framework, hence you wii controller wont work
ANGUS!
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Hey guys
I've been really happy with the performance of the HTC desire and had no real thoughts about rooting it and upgrading the ROM untill I realized that it was possible to connect a Wii Remote and play games on the phone. However, this does not work on stock Desires, apparently due to a bug in HTC's software.
So since I have a long plane ride to look forward to, I really want to get this gaming solution going, since playing emulators on a touchscreen is borderline masochistic. What I need to know is what is the latest ROM that has not been touched by sense and will work for sure with the Wii Remote
Thanks, I really appreciate the help.
Michael
Any AOSP (non sense) rom should allow Wii-remote connection using the 'WiimoteController' app from the market. I've personally used Cyanogen, Oxygen and a few other non-sense roms, all worked.
Hmm so its sense that causes the problem?
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Hmm so its sense that causes the problem?
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Yeah, the Bluetooth drivers that come with Sense do not allow you to pair a Wiimote, I remember Dev's complaining to HTC about it.
A few weeks ago, I bought a used EVO off ebay and it came in good condition but had the 2.3.3 ota update and was locked out till Revolutionary came along and allowed me to s-off and get SU access. This was all done with the intention of trying a few other custom roms with Sense 2.x, 3.x and AOSP. After having tried, played with used and read about various roms on XDA for the EVO, are there ANY roms that work as well or better then the stock rom????
To me is seems more like what are u willing to deal with or live without ranging from HDMI, GPS, 4G, Camera issues. I've used 2 roms that can even keep a folder I created on my main screen with a few apps in that folder from removing those apps when I reboot or shut down my phone. Is there and AOSP rom that has more then 5 home screens, wereas the sense roms have 7.
I love the newer mail app that will display all your accts on 1 screen, I have yet to find any ROM with sense 3.0 that can or will display all the google calendars that I have access to view. The carosel of the home screens is the best part of the custom ROMS.
While I truely do appreciate the awesome and very hard work that the developers do to make theses roms to add functionality to our EVO's why would you put something our that isn't ready for daily use??
Are their any Custom ROMs that have ALL the pieces working???
I get where you're coming from, because i cant keep a ROM knowing that something isnt working properly, plus i dont like getting all fancy with the ROMs i like em simple and the sense feel.
Check out the Sprint Lovers ROM with a custom karnel, that should suit you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
I'm Running Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0 ROM with Golden Monkey 1.1 Kernel, and V6 SuperCharger script.
I love the nice simple design of the ROM, and EVERYTHING from GPS, 4G, Camera, WIFI work. Not sure if HDMI is working but im sure it does.. im able to keep apps in a folder after a restart too. Not sure about the email app and google calenders thing.
Golden Monkey and Supercharger are just a plus for speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060456
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Try miui. It is amazing. Only thing that doesn't work is 4g. That's because it's originally made by the Chinese.
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Try miui. It is amazing. Only thing that doesn't work is 4g. That's because it's originally made by the Chinese.
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Well see thats kinda what I'm getting at, something that doesn't work. Now if I didn't live in an area that didn't have 4G coverage, I might consider MIUI, but i do live in a 4G area. TY for the reply, much appreciated.
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I get where you're coming from, because i cant keep a ROM knowing that something isnt working properly, plus i dont like getting all fancy with the ROMs i like em simple and the sense feel.
Check out the Sprint Lovers ROM with a custom karnel, that should suit you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
I'm Running Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0 ROM with Golden Monkey 1.1 Kernel, and V6 SuperCharger script.
I love the nice simple design of the ROM, and EVERYTHING from GPS, 4G, Camera, WIFI work. Not sure if HDMI is working but im sure it does.. im able to keep apps in a folder after a restart too. Not sure about the email app and google calenders thing.
Golden Monkey and Supercharger are just a plus for speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060456
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192796
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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I have SL 2.33/4.25.651.x on my test phone atm and just replaced the other ROM on my daily phone with Calkulin's for now and see what works well. TY for the reply, much appreciated. Have not tried the new kernel or the V6 scrpit yet.
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Well see thats kinda what I'm getting at, something that doesn't work. Now if I didn't live in an area that didn't have 4G coverage, I might consider MIUI, but i do live in a 4G area. TY for the reply, much appreciated.
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I don't have 4g where I live so that why its not a problem for me. I would probably use it even if I did. I barely use data anyway cuz I have wifi at home I just use that.
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Well see thats kinda what I'm getting at, something that doesn't work. Now if I didn't live in an area that didn't have 4G coverage, I might consider MIUI, but i do live in a 4G area. TY for the reply, much appreciated.
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Almost everywhere I go, it seems, has WiFi, which is faster than 4G anyhow
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Almost everywhere I go, it seems, has WiFi, which is faster than 4G anyhow
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You know, Wi-Fi isn't necessarily faster than 4g. I'm not trying to be a troll though, just explaining it so you don't have the wrong impression.
I finally got an hdmi cable so I could use my old Evo as a Netflix and gaming device. I flashed CM7 and the SavageZen kernel and I'm having a problem where once I start mirroring over hdmi the WiFi goes to hell and can't maintain a connection which makes Netflix totally unusable. Anyone else have trouble like this?
Now I'm trying Decks 1.3 with the kernel it comes with and it does the same thing. Does this happen to everyone or do I have some sort of hardware problem? Arrrgh
Mason kernels work beautifully for me. Also set the cpu to max in the HDMwin app settings. It will only be set to max while you have it running in the back ground.
same problems even with the mason kernel. This is a total bummer.
Could be your TV or port. Try flashing a sense ROM with a mirroring kernel to see if it will work at all.
Way ahead of you. Just put a rooted copy of the latest OTA on the phone. The normal hdmi capabilities are working fine. I'm watching YouTube on the tv over WiFi now. I guess I'm just having software trouble with AOSP roms and kernels and my phone is really picky. Too bad I can't use Bluetooth gamepads with Sense roms....
Guess I just need to keep searching for a combo that works for me.
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Way ahead of you. Just put a rooted copy of the latest OTA on the phone. The normal hdmi capabilities are working fine. I'm watching YouTube on the tv over WiFi now. I guess I'm just having software trouble with AOSP roms and kernels and my phone is really picky. Too bad I can't use Bluetooth gamepads with Sense roms....
Guess I just need to keep searching for a combo that works for me.
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Use a Wiimote if you have one. There are a few apps for Wiimote bluetooth connectivity and you can have different saved setups for the buttons. Works well with sense roms as long as you're rooted.
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Use a Wiimote if you have one. There are a few apps for Wiimote bluetooth connectivity and you can have different saved setups for the buttons. Works well with sense roms as long as you're rooted.
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I've never seen a wiimote work in Sense. That's the only reason I'm putting aosp on the Evo anyway. Do you have a wiimote and have made it work with Sense?
All the Wii emote apps say they don't work with the htc sense ui. That's because of htc's crippled Bluetooth stack. I'm not exactly new at this, I've been frustrated by it for years.
Unless you know something I don't know then I need to be on AOSP.
However, it is my understanding that the latest devices like the One X with sense 4.0 no longer have this problem, so lucky them!
Phew! I think I got it sorted finally. I went back to the official CM 7.1 rom and coupled with the mason kernel my WiFi isn't dropping out any more. Looks like rom choice was playing a huge role here.
For sense try bluezime but Rwiimote works for non sense.
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For sense try bluezime but Rwiimote works for non sense.
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Oh I know how to use a wiimote on non sense roms. I just use the "Wii controller" app.
I could swear I've tried bluezime on sense before and it didn't work. I'll give it another whirl on my evo 3d for kicks.
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For sense try bluezime but Rwiimote works for non sense.
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So out of curiosity I tried bluez IME again with the latest rooted stock rom. It still doesn't work even with the HID enabler. Just as I remembered.
However, much to my surprise it DOES work on my Evo V 4G running Sense. I think HTC finally unborked the bluetooth somewhat in the ICS Sense builds.
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I finally got an hdmi cable so I could use my old Evo as a Netflix and gaming device. I flashed CM7 and the SavageZen kernel and I'm having a problem where once I start mirroring over hdmi the WiFi goes to hell and can't maintain a connection which makes Netflix totally unusable. Anyone else have trouble like this?
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I'm having the same issue. Just rooted for the first time, but loving it so far. I'm running MikG 3.11 and Anthrax 2.6.38.6 #4 on my Evo 4G. HDMI mirroring works great, but not internet connection to use it with. Any idea if I should I change my kernel, or my rom? I'm new to this, but enjoying the learning process. Much thanks!
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I'm having the same issue. Just rooted for the first time, but loving it so far. I'm running MikG 3.11 and Anthrax 2.6.38.6 #4 on my Evo 4G. HDMI mirroring works great, but not internet connection to use it with. Any idea if I should I change my kernel, or my rom? I'm new to this, but enjoying the learning process. Much thanks!
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Try an AOSP rom with Mason kernel. Don't use the A-word kernel. Check all your settings and make sure everything will stay awake and keep screen set to always on. I use HDMI mirroring on a daily basis and have never ran into a wifi issue.