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Hi,
I've just been in the process of upgrading my phone - an orange unbranded unlocked (but not rooted) phone - coming from the generic 1.15 rom. I went through the process that has been documented all over the forums - OTA update which then stops the wifi working, followed by the full RUU update which then seems to have completed the upgrade successfully and wifi is working again. Strangely I didn't get asked for a sim unlock code again, so I'm thinking that if you have already unlocked your phone prior to update, then it does keep the setting.
Now to the interesting bit. I've just attempted to update a friends desire - same status and rom 1.15 as mine prior to the OTA attempt. However, this time i put the goldcard in BEFORE running the OTA update and guess what - i got an 'upgrade successful' message and no problems whatsoever with the wifi. Checking his firmware/software info, all is exactly the same as my phone including the kernal (which people had previously mentioned was the thing stopping the wifi starting). So it looks like the wifi problems we have seen have been caused by the OTA needing the goldcard in to update the kernal!!!
Sorry if I'm rambling, but i expected to be spending the evening setting my mates phone up from scratch and it now looks like i won't need to.
One thing i can't confirm (as both phones were already unlocked with an unlock code) is whether the OTA upgrade will sim lock non-unlocked phones.
Hope this info is of help to people.
Cheers.
Makes sense.. well done, have a cookie
Nice, just a shame I'm about 20 miles from my gold card and pc. Lol.
I wonder of this means having to use the gold card EVERY time an update is released?
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Probably only if its going to update the kernal, but i think for safety's sake its probably better to do it with it in. I'm just wondering though - can a goldcard actually be used as storage too or does it need to be fully blank? Mine has some backup directories which the phone wrote to it after the original unbranding and it doesn't seem to have stopped it working for this upgrade so it might be possible...
If this works for more people, you've done a great service here!
Unfortunately I had the problem and went through the whole purchasing a code route but hope this works for anybody else looking to upgrade
townsejl said:
Probably only if its going to update the kernal, but i think for safety's sake its probably better to do it with it in. I'm just wondering though - can a goldcard actually be used as storage too or does it need to be fully blank? Mine has some backup directories which the phone wrote to it after the original unbranding and it doesn't seem to have stopped it working for this upgrade so it might be possible...
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Yes. I just made the card I was using in the phone anyway a goldcard. You can ignore the formatting bit as it's already formatted as fat32. I backed up just in case, but I didn't lose any data in the process. If you screw up doing the hex write to the card you could do your data in though.
I suppose this could explain why some ex-orange desires' have been working fine with the OTA upgrade - would be interesting to know if those who haven't had any issues were the ones like yourself who's storage card doubles up as their goldcard.
It would be interesting to see if this works! I am waiting for a solution for this so I can unbrand my orange desire! Anyone want to be guinea pigs?
AdamLC said:
It would be interesting to see if this works! I am waiting for a solution for this so I can unbrand my orange desire! Anyone want to be guinea pigs?
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umm mm
do it
do it now
townsejl said:
One thing i can't confirm (as both phones were already unlocked with an unlock code) is whether the OTA upgrade will sim lock non-unlocked phones.
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Would love to know if it works on locked handsets. I've been holding off on upgrading purely for that reason. I always assumed everyone was using a gold card every time they upgraded anyway so if they aren't, perhaps that is something to do with it.
Hello, just to confirm I also have Orange branded Desire, debranded and running stock ROM using T Mobile sim - sim unlocked it a while back with code off HTCcode site.
Did OTA without goldcard, had WiFi issue. Ran RUU with goldcard in which solved the WiFi problem, but this time it did not ask for simunlock code.. Did this on Saturday before I went to the seaside and had fish and chips.
So - confirmation that it works. And the fish and chips were lovely, by the way.
Splath
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Can anyone else confirms the OTA update with the gold card in means wifi still works after?
Splather said:
Hello, just to confirm I also have Orange branded Desire, debranded and running stock ROM using T Mobile sim - sim unlocked it a while back with code off HTCcode site.
Did OTA without goldcard, had WiFi issue. Ran RUU with goldcard in which solved the WiFi problem, but this time it did not ask for simunlock code.. Did this on Saturday before I went to the seaside and had fish and chips.
So - confirmation that it works. And the fish and chips were lovely, by the way.
Splath
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Nice to hear about your chips but methinks you're missing the point to this thread
Hey, you can NEVER be too busy to appreciate a good chip!
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I will hazard a guess that you will still have to unlock your phone, it just means that your WiFi doesn't break if you do the OTA update.
I could be wrong, am waiting for someone to test that theory.
Sooo the next person to read this who has a Debranded 1.15 Locked Orange handset and is prepared for the update... Put your goldcard in, perform the OTA update and tell us what happens!
(the worst that can happen is your phone will be locked like the rest of ours and you'll have to buy a code for a tenner, but then your phone will be unlocked which isn't a bad thing)
oursoul said:
I will hazard a guess that you will still have to unlock your phone, it just means that your WiFi doesn't break if you do the OTA update.
I could be wrong, am waiting for someone to test that theory.
Sooo the next person to read this who has a Debranded 1.15 Locked Orange handset and is prepared for the update... Put your goldcard in, perform the OTA update and tell us what happens!
(the worst that can happen is your phone will be locked like the rest of ours and you'll have to buy a code for a tenner, but then your phone will be unlocked which isn't a bad thing)
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Thought I'd take one for the team and give it a try.
You are correct. Wifi works, but the phone is locked.
biemsy said:
Thought I'd take one for the team and give it a try.
You are correct. Wifi works, but the phone is locked.
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Thats excellent news! Might be mine at the weekend in this case
biemsy said:
Thought I'd take one for the team and give it a try.
You are correct. Wifi works, but the phone is locked.
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Nice one for clearing that one up and confirming the OP's solution.
So its a definite true n true fact that anyone who wants to update their deBranded handset will have to unlock it no matter what.. apart from that, as long as you have your goldcard in everything else should be plain sailing.
I concurr, I did the exact same, i'm on Orange UK with a debranded Orange Desire (generic 1.15) and I use my goldcard as a normal SD card in my desire all the time. I did the upgrade from 1.15 to 1.21 (OTA) and everything went smoothly with no wifi issues. It still network and sim locked the phone after update to which I purchased a code from mobileunlocked . com and had to enter it twice to unlock (once for network unlock and again for sim unlock). Now I have a nice shiney desire running 1.21 firmware unrooted and sim unlocked
Will be updating mine later today when I get my gold card from home later. Already unlocked it too so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Hi guys, sorry firstly if this has been posted before, and also because it's probably quite a noobish question, but I'm going to ask anyway.
If I've unlocked my Windows Phone 7 device (Samsung Omnia 7) for development using ChevronWP7, will this mean I cannot update to 'NoDo'? I haven't yet received the notification and I know it's early days yet, but I don't want to be waiting for something that's not coming my way.
The only reason I ask, is that since I unlocked the phone I've removed Windows 7 from my MacBook (Microsoft stole my legit full license) and I can't really be bothered reinstalling it just to re-lock my device.
Any answers would be appreciated.
you can get the update when it's released for your brand and carrier but you still need zune
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you can get the update when it's released for your brand and carrier but you still need zune
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I have 'Windows Phone Connector For Mac' Installed on OS X, I believe that should suffice for grabbing the update. Thanks for the reply.
hi guys,
i dont want to have the nodo update but i updated is it possible to remove nodo after update? or downgrade or something like this... i have no unlock now and the games the market are tooooo expensive...
i need a good instruction for downgrading or how to remove the nodo. thx alot
i have a htc mozart without branding
greetings joop
try searching your device's thread on how to flash your phone with an earlier rom.
i looked in the device thread but i find nothing so i wanted so ask here
So you just have LEGALLY buy everything now then like everyone else... stop ripping app developers off. .
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HTCjoop said:
hi guys,
i dont want to have the nodo update but i updated is it possible to remove nodo after update? or downgrade or something like this... i have no unlock now and the games the market are tooooo expensive...
i need a good instruction for downgrading or how to remove the nodo. thx alot
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Step by step instructions for solving your problem:
1. Stop wasting time on this board
2. Apply for a part time job
3. Get job
4. Use cash from job to pay developers for their work
very useful posts - not.
i pay apps, but if apps have NO try version so i should pay 6 € for a app, that i dont know? not rly guys... or without unlock i cant use accent changer or something else. so please dont msg me with "get job" or something like that... very childish. u dont know me so u cant judge about me!
HTCjoop said:
very useful posts - not.
i pay apps, but if apps have NO try version so i should pay 6 € for a app, that i dont know? not rly guys... or without unlock i cant use accent changer or something else. so please dont msg me with "get job" or something like that... very childish. u dont know me so u cant judge about me!
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We don't know you, but we can judge you based off of your posts. If you are not willing to take a chance on a 6buck game, then don't.
But when you come on here advocating piracy, you will get flamed and possible banned. I wonder if you ever went back and bought any of those games after "trialing" them.... I bet not.
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I have a Italian htc mozart with nodo.
I would like to downgrade to unlock it
there is a method?
Hi,
I have a HTC Mozart from the German T-Mobile.
Because it took me to much time to wait for NoDo I flashed with a HTC debranded Rom and made the update to NoDo.
Now I would like to go back to the Build 7004 of the debranded Rom to make the unlock / jailbreak and later update to NoDo.
So I thougt I just flash the debranded Rom over my current NoDo Phone.
But everytime I flash it, there is still NoDo!!!
The Rom didn't had NoDo when I flashed it in the first place. It seems like flashing doesn't work or the Phone updates it self during the first start up.
I tried it more than one time.
Flashing back to the original T-Mobile Rom brings me back to Build 7004. But when I flash now the debrandet Rom it will be NoDo!
Anybody have an idea?
I have known enough of the HTC hardware architecture over the years to realize that re-imaging should be a no-brainer but also that the devil is in the partitions. However, for some unexplained reason, Mr. Watson's note/warning makes me wonder if reflashing will actually leave it just as new...
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...all-updated-windows-phones-are-not-alike.aspx
Are you flashing using all the nbh files (meaning, *all* partitions)? What tool are you using to flash? Maybe that scenario is what he describes in his post, where there are leftovers? {however should not apply if flashing} But, you say that using the original ROM does bring everything back to 7004. Odd indeed.
As a final note and taking a different approach, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671743. He mentions that when dumping there is a bunch of unkown partitions. What if the update stored some update-related stuff, applicable only to the unbranded version (in other words, those alledged update bits being version specific)? Such a conspiracy theory would suit your scenario.
Hi fosormic,
thanks for your answer.
Maybe I can solve the problem flashing another Rom from this site. It really seems like there is a rest of the NoDo-Update on the Phone for the HTC Rom.
But even when I flash down to 7004 with the T-Mobile Rom the NoDo pieces will stay.
A friend using Android asked me if it's not possible to set an option to erase the whole phone before flashing. That could be an option but I'm not sure if it's available on Windows Phone.
OK, I will work with the T-Mobile Rom. Do you think it will work installing NoDo and later flash back to the 7004 Version?
Regards
Dennis
dennis_dieckmann said:
Hi fosormic,
thanks for your answer.
Maybe I can solve the problem flashing another Rom from this site. It really seems like there is a rest of the NoDo-Update on the Phone for the HTC Rom.
But even when I flash down to 7004 with the T-Mobile Rom the NoDo pieces will stay.
A friend using Android asked me if it's not possible to set an option to erase the whole phone before flashing. That could be an option but I'm not sure if it's available on Windows Phone.
OK, I will work with the T-Mobile Rom. Do you think it will work installing NoDo and later flash back to the 7004 Version?
Regards
Dennis
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Hi there, to be honest I have no clue. I suspect your friend is a Samsung user (I have 3 devices) and yes you can repartition a Samsung and very easily mess it up beyond almost almost any help. I have never seen a repartitionable HTC device but my knowledge at such low level is quite superficial. From the bootloader viewpoint they do seem almost identical (newer versions aside) to me.
Sorry not to be more helpful. It is more of an academic thing to me but I know it is a real deal to you
Best of luck mate,
So I don't want to take an expensive phone with me travelling, and seeing as you can get this phone for really cheap (on a contract) I thought it be better than nothing. I am coming from a HD2 though (broken) and am slightly concerned about the performance. I have read good things, but I would feel safer if I knew that this might get rooted, be overclockable, new customs roms etc.
So if any dev's that plan to root the wildfire s and build custom rooms please let us know!
There are guys working on the Desire S and Incredible S.....
Once they get those rooted / S-Off etc etc I would imagine that the Wildfire will follow.......
Dont quote me on that though
given that the wildfire was very popular and officially supported by cyanogenmod, i believe the wildfire S will follow the footsteps of its predecessor.
Just be patient and wait for a few months. This phone is still in the process of being rolled out in various parts of the world. Once enough people get hold of this phone, i'm sure there will be a few hackers/developers among them who will try to work on rooting and developing custom roms/kernels for it.
Wildfire S Root
I sure hope that a root for the Wildfire S comes in the following months. I wanna get some over-clocking action my my Wildfire!
I am also waiting to root.
But in my case I am very interested because I need rSAP on it to connect to my car.
well, keeping finger cross.....
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well, keeping finger cross.....
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not neccessary as HTC will not lock bootloader anymore!!!
magnetique said:
not neccessary as HTC will not lock bootloader anymore!!!
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I think HTC should do what they done with the Nexus One and what Samsung done with the Nexus S and provide the choice for users to unlock the bootloader through fastboot. Motorola and Sony Ericsson are doing it with the Xoom, Arc etc.
Also: I can't wait for custom roms and such to arrive to the S.
Jack
I got a S yesterday , and waiting for someone show me how to root it.
iSingle said:
I got a S yesterday , and waiting for someone show me how to root it.
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not possible at the moment, need to wait for HTC to release unlock (if any), because they are not locking bootloader anymore, but nobody knows if it will affect released devices also (like wildifre s)
They not lock starts from this moment... You should ask devs from other rooted devices from htc... Dont belive root comes himself...
EDIT: I take wildfire from my friend and take a look on this...
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They should, the phone was released this month in the UK.
hi, today played a little bit with the phone from my wife
i tried, but all without luck
-superoneclick 1.9.1
-z4root
and found this on a quick search in google is a german site http://www.nexustalk.de/magazin/artikel/234-htc-wildfire-s-root-anleitung-zum-rooten.html
google translate german to english
http://translate.googleusercontent....n.html&usg=ALkJrhgkIWsH_b0Fqk837Tjlur3Y2STJCA
Does anything give a temp root?
temp root, unfortunately not
Thats a shame. Guess we gotta wait and see if HTC will unlock the wildfire S :\
Hi there just wanting to ask a quick question is the firmware on a wildfire s the same as the wildfire A3335 which is the Australian model thanks. As i am thinking of debranding it. I have already got it unlocked so that shouldn't be a problem.
Same phone, so same model.
Temporal Root
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Hi!!
Yes, you might have temporal root privileges.
You have to use GingerBreak through ADB Shell.
Remember this doesn't allow you to install a Custom Recovery or a Custom Rom as the phone will not actually write nothing, so better don't try.
You may use any ROOT-Application like Titanium Backup till you reboot your device.
I don't know if this method works on all WildFire S.
Remember if you just want to debrand your mobile you may use a GoldCard to flash a Unbraded Stock ROM and get ride of all of that stupid branded screens and applications once and for all (as i did in mine)
Good Luck!!
In China it seems you can buy S-OFF Wildfire S, I guess they do this with XTC-clip and then sell them (still doing some more research). Thinking of buying one for my wife.
Does anybody have a link for nice background info how to make a rooted ROM?
I am experienced in baking my own rooted ROMs for Legend with the kitchen, but I have always had a rooted ROM (like BlaY0 0.8.4 or CM 7.0.3) as a starting point.
Now I guess my best bet is to take a normal RUU image for Wildfire S and to put su etc. on it, but what else would I need?
Is it feasible to, say, mix kernel+drivers etc. from the original ROM with less harware specific parts from BlaY0 or CM and in such a way construct a new ROM?
I read somewhere that from a hardware point of view Legend is closest to Wildfire S? Could somebody confirm this?
TIA!
Hey everyone,
I've tried to google around and search the forums on XDA but there is no straight up answer to some questions I have. This is the first HTC device I own and although I have been rooting/unlocking devices since the Nexus 4, I am afraid to go ahead with this one. I just wanted the answers to the following questions, if anyone here knows them please:
1. Unlocking the bootloader seems straight-forward and supported by HTC. I'm in the UK which means no Uh-Oh protection. If something was to happen to the device and I sent it back under warranty, would I be ****ed or would HTC replace/repair it? HTC UK's call center was worse than useless and HTC US' policy doesn't apply to us so I thought I should ask here.
2. Does unlocking the bootloader and rooting mean I will lose access to the fingerprint scanner, camera quality or anything 'stock'? I know Android Pay won't work but at the moment I am not too bothered either way because it's a hit and miss thing with it.
3. Finally, is there a way to completely revert unlocking the phone/s-off and going back to S-ON/Locked without any signs of having messed around with the device? I ask in relation to question 1. If unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty for UK users, is there a way to go back to stock and make the phone as though NOTHING was done to it?
Thank you to anyone who helps answer even 1 of these questions :victory:. I want to root and get xposed onto my new device but not at the cost of losing features on a brand new phone or losing warranty on it either :silly:
1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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1. I can't comment on this simply because I don't know and don't want to spread false information.
2. You will not lose any features at all. In fact, I'm running a bootloader unlocked and rooted setup and Android Pay still seems to work fine for me. It let me add a debit card but I haven't yet been able to actually try to purchase something.
3. Yes, if you are S-Off you can completely revert back to a locked bootloader with S-On if you want to.
I'd recommend both unlocking and S-Off so you can revert back to stock in the future for a warranty claim just to be safe.
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Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
Devzz said:
Hey, thanks for the reply! Only just saw this, not sure why it didn't notify me.
Right no worries about point one seeing as point 3 makes it irrelevant if I can revert back and save my warranty anyway. Just to be sure on points 2 and 3, I can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On status and the system won't show I have messed around at all? As for Android Pay, that's cool! Did you set it up before or after rooting? And does your fingerprint scanner work? Can you make payments on google play by authorising with your fingerprint?
Thank you again for your help!
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Yep, you can definitely 100% go back to Locked/S-On state assuming you were previously S-Off. There will be no signs that the device was messed with.
For Android Pay, I had initially set it up prior to rooting but the rooting process wiped my phone. I had no issues setting it up again on a freshly rooted install.
Google Play and every other app that uses it still fully supports authorization via fingerprint. From what I can tell, I have lost absolutely no features by rooting. There really is nothing to lose once you get past the initial phone wipe that occurs when you unlock the bootloader.
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Ah that's great! Would've thought HTC would implement some kind of security thing where rooting may cause the fingerprint scanner to not work like Samsung/Sony have. Good on HTC :highfive: I'm gonna start reading up now and unlock/s-off/root the phone in the next few hours! :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, it really is a great thing they've done! HTC is being really friendly to developers and power users. If you have questions or need some help with the unlocking or rooting feel free to drop me a PM!