If the phone internal flash storage is 8 GB,why i see it just 6.6G(6.4G for use) form my phone menu-setting-card&storage?
And how can I use this storage? I can't setting my dc or dv store to it,i can select ony Phone rom or card.
BTW, on my computer(win xp),I can see 2 removable disk.But I can only read or format the tf card disk,i can't do any thing to the other disk.
It is really 8 gig, but by the time the OS is done with using all the memory it needs to function, you are left with 6.6 for your use.
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Really?
But it seems has used 748M ROM(availabe for use just 693M)?
JohnHi said:
Really?
But it seems has used 748M ROM(availabe for use just 693M)?
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You are correct....you have 748...but only 693 is for use by the user
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thks a lot~
But How can i use this storage?
Daily use...like apps and such
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But i can't set store to the 8g storage at my camera store config. I can only select store to card or phone memory,no to internal storage!
How can i do?
8 Gig is a marketing term. No drive you will ever get will have the marketing space on it. An 8Gig drive means it has roughly 8,000,000,000 Bytes usually it may means it has 8,000,000 KB, and sometimes it means it has roughly 8,000 MB on it but most commonly it is the Bytes. A computer doesn't see in 10's like we do. Computers see in 8 or more precisely y*2^x basically it sees everything as 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024. A drive with 8,000,000,000 bytes has 7,812,500 KB , 7629.4 MB, 7.45GB.
Now what this phone actually has is about 7,870,939,136 Bytes with a drive market off on the phone of 7,086,604,288 for the EMMC or internal Memory drive, and 784,334,848 Bytes for the ROM. It appears that when they were partitioning the ROM they marked it off in MB so it took a larger chunk of Bytes. Basically the ROM is a partition of the overall memory which drops the available internal memory to a marketing 7Gig which in usable space is just under 6.6Gig.
Now 7870939136 is generally enough for a drive's marketing department to claim 8Gig but I would not be surprised to find that instead of 748MB ROM that it actually has a 1GB Rom but Android won't support that yet. And following the logic that they used partitioning software to pull the ROM out I would imagine that it is a full Gig or 1073741824Bytes which would give a total disk size of 8,160,346,112Bytes or 7.6 Actual Gigs. Roughly.
I would have to look at the actual partition table. But it is 8Billion bytes give or take about 160million.
EDIT:-- For the record 7,086,604,288 comes from the actual EMMC drive partition size on my phone. For the record. I didn't pull that number out of the air the size of the ROM is an educated guess but based on the fact that partitioning software uses actual MB or GB depending on the setting instead of human base10 numbers.
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obvious question (but didn't find an answer): Accroding to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-z/#specs it should have 512MB RAM right? Why the actual amount of memory is significantly lower? Free in terminal shows only 386048000 bytes which less than 370MiB. Why? Free should show actuall memory on which the underlining linux is running, right? So there shouldn't be any other hidden memory.
Thanks.
LAMER_CZ said:
Hi,
obvious question (but didn't find an answer): Accroding to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-z/#specs it should have 512MB RAM right? Why the actual amount of memory is significantly lower? Free in terminal shows only 386048000 bytes which less than 370MiB. Why? Free should show actuall memory on which the underlining linux is running, right? So there shouldn't be any other hidden memory.
Thanks.
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Free memory is how much memory isn't being used by the system, files, apps, etc., that being what is available to write to; total memory is the combination of used and free memory.
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LAMER_CZ said:
Hi,
obvious question (but didn't find an answer): Accroding to http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-z/#specs it should have 512MB RAM right? Why the actual amount of memory is significantly lower? Free in terminal shows only 386048000 bytes which less than 370MiB. Why? Free should show actuall memory on which the underlining linux is running, right? So there shouldn't be any other hidden memory.
Thanks.
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I had the same question too
The answer is that part of the memory is used by the sistem itself.
Yeah, part of the memory is reserved for the radio, and probably some other system stuff too. So when Android boots up it only sees around 370MB or so. This is the same on both the G2 and DZ.
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Other stuff.. and something like "Graphics Card" i think.
Hm, hm ..... so 512MB is just marketing. 1GB phone has effectively almost 3x more memory Desire Z is awesome phone (it has HW keyboard), but the memory is a huge disappointment, what would cost extra 512MB these days? Almost nothing ..... grrrrr
steviewevie said:
Yeah, part of the memory is reserved for the radio, and probably some other system stuff too. So when Android boots up it only sees around 370MB or so. This is the same on both the G2 and DZ.
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A 1GB device would show about 874988KB in RAM. Or about 854MB.
Went to scan something with Photo Reader and was told that I didn't have enough storage space available. This seemed odd to me as I've installed fewer apps than on my tablet, and haven't even had time to download data files for most of the games.
1.45 GB Available, and it's not enough space for system functions?
Is ~10GB how much I should have internal?
EDIT - Probably should have said 11GB, just actually looked at the full number 10.97 is rather closer to 11 than 10... And that's why you sleep at 3 am not post!
I'm having issues now with CM10 running out of internal storage. I did enough digging to find that it was a change in CM10 that caused this. The solution is to move some of the larger apps to the SD card.
The problem I have is that the highest offenders of space are all the google apps. My top offenders are:
Chrome: 60mb
Amazon App store: 28 mb
Media Storage: 28 mb
Google Search: 22 mb
Google Drive: 16 mb
Google Maps: 16mb
RssDemon: 15 mb
Google Play Store: 12mb
Android System: 10b
MoboPlayer: 9mb
Document Viewer: 9mb! (WTF is that?)\
HDR Camera+: 8 mb
Google Play Music: 9mb
Google Play Services: 8mb
Titanium Backup: 8mb
Gmail: 8mb
I'd love to move some of my apps to the SD card, but most are the Google Apps. And the others I'd rather have internal if I had my preference.
Is anyone else seeing the same thing? Do any of these mb sizes look ridiculous? These numbers are before any data or cache wipe for any of these apps.
I'm having the same issues on my TF101 and it's really starting to erk me.
CM10 did alter the size of the system partition accommodate the rom size. However, not a huge amount. That being said, we have a reduced amount of memory compared to more modern devices. Consider moving apps to sd that don't need to run at max performance. Maybe a clean data wipe would help some as well. It's amazing how much a clean start can help. But that's the beauty of root and custom roms, do a backup and try it out. If it doesn't work out, restore your backup image and try again.
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CM10 did alter the size of the system partition accommodate the rom size. However, not a huge amount. That being said, we have a reduced amount of memory compared to more modern devices. Consider moving apps to sd that don't need to run at max performance. Maybe a clean data wipe would help some as well. It's amazing how much a clean start can help. But that's the beauty of root and custom roms, do a backup and try it out. If it doesn't work out, restore your backup image and try again.
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Thanks for the response. I've moved what I wanted over to the SD card and I still only have 96mb available and get low space errors quickly.
What about when I scroll lower and it says I have 6.65gb available? I'm guessing it's referring to the SD card, but how the heck do I make a folder that utilizes this? My intention is to create a folder where I can save images that I've downloaded from browsing.
How do I differentiate between the onboard memory and the SD card?
Pics and downloads should automatically be sent to SD. In settings-storage, it should have headers that show weather or not its internal or SD storage.
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I'm using the stock kernel and, of course, facing issues with the small internal memory. I'm using link2sd, but it still leaves a fair amount of data in the internal memory (ie, 16 mb for Asphalt 6, 14 mb for Facebook, 13 mb for Flash, a couple of mb for many other apps), so I'm always with a somewhat limited space for applications.
So I wonder if there is something capable of moving far more data to the SD card, so I don't need to worry about having enough room for apps. I was looking at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.mounts2sd but it mentions init.d support, and googling about all that stuff doesn't really explain it in more layman terms.
Thanks in advance
You cant be using Link2Sd properly then. It leaves virtually nothing in the internal memory. I had a 32gb SD card full of games and still had about 200mb free internal memory. When you create a link are you trying to move the apps to SD afterwards as they should show as being on internal?
Well, I have it set up to link automatically on application install, and to link application, dalvik-cache and libraries. The install locationis set to external and I have ticked the check boxes to relink libraries and dex files at startup.
To test it, I've unistalled Facebook and reinstalled. Once the app finishes installing, I get the link2sd notification that it's linking it to the SD. I login to my account and once I go to the application settings to check the app size, it reports a total of 31,33 MB, of which 23,56 MB correspond to the aplication and 7,77 MB to data. And has the option to move to the SD so it's certainly in the internal memory.
Link2SD storage info reports the internal memory (380 Mb total, 15% free), the Sd card (12% free) and the sd card's second partition, at /data/sdext2, with 712 MB total, of which 390Mb are used.
Sorry for bumping, but is the link2sd behaviour I'm describing normal behaviour then?
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Sorry for bumping, but is the link2sd behaviour I'm describing normal behaviour then?
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Yes, it does appear to be normal behaviour. Try going into the Link2SD app and see if it says whether the app is linked or not. I've had instances where my apps don't get linked even after running the process. When you check the application size in settings (not in Link2SD), the application size will remain unchanged as I think Link2SD treats your partition as internal storage and therefore it still shows the application as it's full size as opposed to how much of it is actually on your internal storage
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O.K. I didn't go for the mid level or high level storage unit, I went with the 16GB as with my Acer A500 on ICS had 16GB with 9-10GB free.
I power on my new Note and my apps start to load up from Google Play, and i start getting a message that only 2.9 - 2.8- 2.6 GB of internal storage left.
I checked the 16GB of space and what do i find,
System memory: 4.21 (OS right?)
Used Space: 8.33GB
Cached: 409MB
Misc: 800MB
and only 2.28GB avaliable!!!!
Is this because of JB? I just never though Android would ever catch up to space requirements of windows OS'.
If anyone can give me a few suggestion on how to lower this usage I would appreciate it, as i do have about 7-8GB of music i would normally carry directly on my device.
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Yes get an SD card and move the music to it. Also make sure all photos are going to the external card.
Use lecture notes instead of snote and make sure it is using the external card.
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O.K. I didn't go for the mid level or high level storage unit, I went with the 16GB as with my Acer A500 on ICS had 16GB with 9-10GB free.
I power on my new Note and my apps start to load up from Google Play, and i start getting a message that only 2.9 - 2.8- 2.6 GB of internal storage left.
I checked the 16GB of space and what do i find,
System memory: 4.21 (OS right?)
Used Space: 8.33GB
Cached: 409MB
Misc: 800MB
and only 2.28GB avaliable!!!!
Is this because of JB? I just never though Android would ever catch up to space requirements of windows OS'.
If anyone can give me a few suggestion on how to lower this usage I would appreciate it, as i do have about 7-8GB of music i would normally carry directly on my device.
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Search for foldermount. You can mount ext sdcard directories as internal. Problem solved. You must be rooted...
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I have already ordered a 64G card, was planning to use it just for music. However the question still remains, is this JB thats so large or is it Samsung?
I look at my S3 running 4.1.2 (Stock OTA) its a 16GB device also, and it stands like this:
Total: 11.95GB
App: 2.01GB
Pic, Vid: 1.28GB
Audio: 83.84MB
Downloads: 2.75MB
Misc: 138MB
Avaliable Space: 7.96GB
So it leads me to believe its alot of bloat from Sammy for the Note devices.
LazySmerf said:
I have already ordered a 64G card, was planning to use it just for music. However the question still remains, is this JB thats so large or is it Samsung?
I look at my S3 running 4.1.2 (Stock OTA) its a 16GB device also, and it stands like this:
Total: 11.95GB
App: 2.01GB
Pic, Vid: 1.28GB
Audio: 83.84MB
Downloads: 2.75MB
Misc: 138MB
Avaliable Space: 7.96GB
So it leads me to believe its alot of bloat from Sammy for the Note devices.
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It's both. JB is relatively huge, and Samsung adds about 1GB of their own apps including s-pen support, etc..
Even my 16GB only had like 12 GB free right out of the box.
Your expectations are a bit strange, even your S3 example above, shows that just the OS alone takes about 4.1 GB.