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So on following sorensiim's guide(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291) i noticed the jit/ deodexed thingy for a rom number 2.2 or 2.3, where do i get these roms, and how do i install them? also, if i wipe the user settings and dalvik cache, all my contacts get erased, how do i get those back? 3rd, if i went through that guide and did everything but skipped the jit stuff, would i need to re-over clock it? any help is appreciated.
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Go through a few threads in the development forum and just read from first to last post.
Most of your questions will be answered and you will learn a LOT!
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Wow, thanks(!)
A lot of the guides aren't that well written, for people starting from scratch - I'm a reasonably techy guy but this is my first Android phone and I find very few of the guides at all comprehensible.
So saying 'read everything' is not at all helpful.
edit: this guide is one of the clearer ones to follow.
Don't worry about what you're doing, just follow the steps.
Yes but part of the fun is playing with the phone and seeing how things work, not annoying users on here.
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Yes but part of the fun is playing with the phone and seeing how things work, not annoying users on here.
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The whole point of XDA is for people to discuss and learn. A valid question has been asked, and you don't need to be rude.
Some of us may have been mucking around with our phones for years, but a lot of users on here are still beginners, so give them a break. Nearly everyone here had no idea what they were doing when they started screwing around with their ROMS.
Thank you for explaining that.
I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?
I usually try to ignore these threads but jesus man read a lill first
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I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?
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OK.
First, wrong section. This should be in Q&A whether anyone responds to it there or not.
Second, Titanium doesn't do NAND backups. That's a job for the recovery.
Third, deleting two apks will not make the ROM "vanilla". It will only mess things up and ruin your experience. If you want "vanilla", there are plenty of AOSP ROMs you can flash after you root.
Fourth, you don't do OTAs after you're rooted. It would unroot you, and you'd have to start all over, and there's no guarantee there would be root available for the new OTA. You should just stick to flashing rooted stock ROMs.
Fifth, I would personally advise against ROM Manager and tell you to learn to do it manually. It's not difficult at all, just a matter of learning a specific sequence of simple steps.
I think that about covers everything. I'm sure someone else will fill in the pieces I've missed.
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I am thinking about rooting using unrevoked 3. I am pretty sure that is strait forward. After that I should install titanium back up and do a nand back up? Then after that I should be able to delete the sense apk and htc lock apk screen and it should be stock vanilla 2.2 right. If I want to restore for a OTA can I just use the nand backup?
Then if I want to try flashing Roms what should I do? Is the Rom manager app all I need?
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You should probably do some more reading. Titanium back up only backs up apps. If you want a nand back up you do it through recovery. Deleting that stuff does not make it vanilla lol. If you want a vanilla build run a AOSP rom. I don't use Rom manager it crap I flash manually
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Please post your source codes along with the ROM/APP/Development you are doing in this thread.
if not then you realize this is not in the right section. not to be rude but its pretty straight forward with the unrevoked..dont be a ***** and just do it. Otherwise just leave your phone alone.
THIS MIGHT HELP YOU
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Google is your friend, learn to use it. Also not trying to scare you, but you could get stuck in bootloops so its better to read everything first then try flashing something.
Your post shows that you are completely clueless, so I really recommend that you read and research before you even attempt to do anything to your device.
Google the following:
1) how to root android
2) how to install custom roms
3) how to use Titanium backup
4) Difference between ASOP and Sense
5) Search in this forum "How to unroot your Evo in two easy steps" if you dont understand or cant follow the instructions there, you may want to reconsider rooting your device. Since if something goes wrong, you will need to unroot the device before taking it to Sprint, etc.
Also dont get offended by these comments because XDA isnt usually like this. But when its very clear that a member hasn't done any research, and expects to be spoonfed all the info, you will get flamed.
How did OP even start this thread in this section? He only has 5 posts... Did the rules change?
wow, my mistake. I'll just stick to Android central.
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wow, my mistake. I'll just stick to Android central.
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The reason you got the response you did is because you posted in the wrong section. Whike I know you are new to the forum out is always a good idea you read the stickies on any forum you visit.
Tons of new people make the same mistake.i wouldn't let it turn you of but use it as a learning experience.
Xda is an amazing forum (if you are willing to take the time to search post in correct places and do a little work yourself by researching.)
If you aren't willing to do those things then you will find it a cold unfriendly place.
Fort better or worse it is not always newbie friendly. On the plus most of the major developers are here so once you learn you have tons of resources.
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As others have stated previous, irritation arose due to posting in the wrong section (initially) and coming to the table without having first exhausted all resources outside making a new thread (see: Google, searching XDA, other forums, YouTube, even).
There are many guides to help you out there, many on these forums specifically. As one other said previously, as well, don't let this shown irritation from other users discourage you from using these forums. XDA is, by far, the best place regarding the rooting, flashing, development, and customization of our phones. You would be wise to stick around and learn the ropes a bit.
Next time, if you have a question, try posting what you did in the body, explaining what research you have done and what did or didn't work before you decided to post a new thread. This will help others see that you have indeed looked around some and tried some things out instead of rushing to post a new thread without seeing if your question(s) was/were already answered.
Overall, your experience can be very good and you can learn a lot from these forums. I'm still pretty new myself, but I visit these forums every single day and read up on things and just take it all in.
Have fun with everything! If you have any specific questions, feel free to PM me and I'll do my best to help. But do some research before, if you do!
I would suggest reading and asking lots of questions and reading and asking lots of questions and reading and asking lots of questions before doing anything to your phone....
I think all of these responses would make me a little nervous as well...
EndlessDissent -
I have found Rom Manager to be quick and painless, why would you advise against using it?
fyi - I use it w/clockwork recovery instead of Amon-RA. And have downgraded it because of some kind of edify scripting problems. is this less than optimal?
Ok I think I have read all I can and watched all the youtube videos I can handle. It looks pretty strait forward and seems to be easier that the palm pre.
Now can anyone recommend a GB Rom? I would love a pure nexus s expirence. I plan to get it when it comes out.
I would recommend CM7, but some would say no cuz of weird instances that happened to a couple people. Evervolv, Salvage, king's ultra, and miui all have gingerbread though.
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Ok I think I have read all I can and watched all the youtube videos I can handle. It looks pretty strait forward and seems to be easier that the palm pre.
Now can anyone recommend a GB Rom? I would love a pure nexus s expirence. I plan to get it when it comes out.
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I second CM7. There are thousands of users, thus lots of potential help. It is a ROM that has been for awhile and they have really worked out quite a good percentage of the bugs that will inevitably come with any GB ROM.
Flash CM7 and get a good feel for it before you start hopping ROMs. Also do yourself a favor and make sure you use the search button liberally before you post questions/issues in the CM7 threads and provide some info on what you did to resolve your issues (you will have issues). If you do that the chances you'll get help rather than flames goes up 10,000%.
I would strongly recommend against MIUI. It is unquestionably the best ROM I have ever used, but it is really not a good ROM for an EVO rookie. The quirks in the flashing process are plentiful and the preciseness required by the nature of the ROM will suit you much better a month from now.
I'm sure there will be people who disagree with me, but I help people everyday who would not have needed help if they had learned a little more about the process on a more basic ROM with lot's of support and fewer bells and whistles. Just my two cents.
The options in teh roxxorz's post are good options as well.
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Here I edited teh roxxorz's post to weed out the erroneous stuff and highlight what's important.
I was wondering if maybe we could use a post to organize some of the Mods/Tweaks we as A100 users can do. Especially since it may be a while before we have a custom ROM. Seems like a more central list of mod options would be useful. I would be happy to work on this.
Things we could incdlude
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Improving Poor Viewing Angle(everyone complains about this)
-Turn the device upsidedown, as someone else posted a while back if you turn the
A100 so the "home" button is on the left instead of the right.
ALLOT of things seem to work better. The viewing angle is good,
the front viewing camera is no longer under my hand, and the
antenna is in a better position too I bet. It almost seems like that was the original orientation
Rooting(a100 and now a101 too)
- temp and perm install/uninstall, script & by hand)
Status of Custom ROM Development
Status of safe mods for: Build.prop, init.d, gps.conf, etc
- what mods can be done, the result, the versions tested on, etc
Making Recovery Images
-known methods, risk/benefit of them , links to instructions and files
Using Recovery Images
-known methods, risk/benefit of them , links to instructions and files
Boot Animations
-known methods, risk/benefit of them , links to instructions and files
Hulu fix(s)(lib mod, or huluplus(working on A100?))
-known methods, risk/benefit of them , links to instructions and files
Hidebar, Honeybar, NOT-VERY-INTERESTING BAR
-risk/benefit of them , links to instructions and files
UOT Kitchen(?)
-Can we use it? what features work?
General Suggested Utility Apps List Maybe
- I know the forum has an apps section already. Im just thinking the most basic things. Stuff like which busybox, terminal, file manager, etc are known to work well on our a100.
Maybe a running list of Any known major FUBAR apps. or features within apps that would for sure brick ur device.
Sounds more like a general FAQ to me, but a good idea. All of the mods I've released so far are in my sig for this very reason.. I was receiving lots of pms (hey where's xyz mod) lol!
Only bad thing is who's going to keep it up to date? Also it'll need to be stickied so that it doesn't get lost in general.
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Yep. I wouldn't be able to stickie it far as I know. I just keep thinking we have allot of cool stuff that can be done. However it takes hours and hours of reading to start to find that out . So I'm thinking it might be something I can do to contribute.
It would almost certainly help new comers figure what they have available.
I am new to the A100, so this is great idea for people in simular positions.
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Yep. I wouldn't be able to stickie it far as I know.
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No worries on that one, I can help with that
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good idea...but honestly compared to the other devices forums i frequent this one is the cleanest..mostly because we actually dont have a whole lot of mods for our A100s. once a device has custom roms, radio releases,kernels and 18 different rooting methods thats when things get lost. the one thing that always was handy was creating a device wiki, that way its one page to keep up to date and can include everything. just the way ive seen things..when i first got my desire z the xda wiki was the best source for concrete information and guides.
just my .02 i still like your idea dont get me wrong! but maybe making a wiki would be a better idea than just a sticky?
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I'd say that a kind of central knowledge base would be a great idea. Back in my Desire days they had just this sort of thing in the dev forum for kernels, sense and non sense roms etc. It was fantastic.
Spreading the word is one of the best things we can do to help others help themselves ;-)
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Hello, i was wondering if i could get some help with answering a few questions i had. In advance i have been using smartphones for some time now but due to lazyness i never really got into rooting and modding them. So as while i am by nature a techy, i still need some things explained. Just some basics about the process, the terminolgy, like CMO9, FD24 so on and so forth, and well just anything about rooting. Im just looking to absorb as much as possible about it so i know what im doing.
The wiki page may be a useful resource.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393699
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Yes that is helpful thank you. I still had some questions concerning exactly what something like CM09 is, i didnt find any references to it on the wiki pages for kernels or roms.
To go from not doing anything with phone modiciation to litterally using ODIN to one click my stock to fd26, and then try to play catch up is a lot of info at one time lol.
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Yes that is helpful thank you. I still had some questions concerning exactly what something like CM09 is, i didnt find any references to it on the wiki pages for kernels or roms.
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CM9 refers to cyanogen mod, its an open source android variant that is developed on multiple phones. Never tried it on this phone yet. Their website is http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ and our thread is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563658
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To go from not doing anything with phone modiciation to litterally using ODIN to one click my stock to fd26, and then try to play catch up is a lot of info at one time lol.
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Addiction starts this way Take your time and read, read, read before you do anything else.
Also search, search and do some more searching... using the search tool at the very top of any XDA page. It's the best tool to find out about something specific. Be super careful, making absolutely certain that anything you plan to use on your phone is for the E4GT (Epic 4G Touch). If you accidentally flash the wrong thing it can go very wrong.
So, like SomeGuy said, do a LOT of reading.
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Also search, search and do some more searching... using the search tool at the very top of any XDA page. It's the best tool to find out about something specific. Be super careful, making absolutely certain that anything you plan to use on your phone is for the E4GT (Epic 4G Touch). If you accidentally flash the wrong thing it can go very wrong.
So, like SomeGuy said, do a LOT of reading.
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This is exactly right I spent about 3 days doing research before I flashed and in the end I still ended up almost bricking my phone. I accidentally flashed a ROM for the gt I9100 and the computer would not recognize the phone and in recovery I could not aces my SD card but luckily I was able to Odin back to stock!
Ya i was able to flash it successfully. Got 4.0 on it with fd26 and nova launcher instead of touch wiz, because thats junk in my opinion. Seems to be working just fine, no sms, gps or 3g issues thus far. Video is kinda glitchy on playback within the phone doenst scale right to the orientation of the phone
Can someone PLEASE post some actual, detailed, step-by-step instructions on how to flash a ROM on the DHD?
All I ever seem to read are "instructions" that don't tell me how to do some or most or even all of the steps it wants me to do.
For example, a lot of instructions tell me to "do a NANDroid backup" or "wipe data" or "flash the rom" and then proceed to not tell me how to do any of that. The authors mostly assume that the reader knows how to do all the steps. Can you not be that guy and actually give us a step-by-step set of instructions and don't leave anything out? In plain English please.
Those are all options in recovery. The problem with a precise step-by-step is that every recovery has those options in different places. I would recommend that you do what the rest of us did: poke around whichever recovery you have installed; they're all there somewhere in the menus. It shouldn't take long, and you'll soon figure everything out.
I believe that the majority of the guides are good and have had a lot of work put into them, they are all written to do a technical thing and as such, this is where you or any other user is required to do some work too, by searching, (one of the xda rules btw) reading and learning the things needed to mess around with your phone.
I personally was reading up the threads on xda developers for 3 months or more, every day, before even contemplating touching my phone, or even posting anything on xda developers!
With all due respect, at the end of the day you are the one that is going to be messing with your phone, modifying it, flashing it and all the things that go with it, I doubt any one from xda is going to come over to your place, look over your shoulder and tell you step by step what to do?
I also think it's quite a bit of an insult to those people who have already done the hard work and spent their personal time learning and writing those guides to help every one, who may not be not quite as technically minded to do stuff.
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ranger4740 said:
I believe that the majority of the guides are good and have had a lot of work put into them, they are all written to do a technical thing and as such, this is where you or any other user is required to do some work too, by searching, (one of the xda rules btw) reading and learning the things needed to mess around with your phone.
I personally was reading up the threads on xda developers for 3 months or more, every day, before even contemplating touching my phone, or even posting anything on xda developers!
With all due respect, at the end of the day you are the one that is going to be messing with your phone, modifying it, flashing it and all the things that go with it, I doubt any one from xda is going to come over to your place, look over your shoulder and tell you step by step what to do?
I also think it's quite a bit of an insult to those people who have already done the hard work and spent their personal time learning and writing those guides to help every one, who may not be not quite as technically minded to do stuff.
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The reason I asked this question here was that if I ask for this any thread that is for a specific ROM for a specific phone, I get the what I described above: A either a long general "guide" that doesn't tell me how to do what I need to do on the phone I want to do it on, or a "guide" that assumes I know how to do each step in the process.
Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
I would like to ask a question..
Currently
Desire HD.. shipped stock with Froyo
Currently latest bootloader (.29 if i remember right)
HTC Dev Unlock
JellyTime ROM
but GPS dont work due to radio (dont show even notification icon)
Fix is to flash radio.. but I dont have a S-OFF.. (not Radio or even ENG S OFF)
Would like to ask.. what to do?
Everything i want is quick steps.. like.. go back to stock rooted rom.. do with aahk unlock (S OFF Mainly!) and then flash radio and restore Jelly Time rom?
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I would like to ask a question..
Currently
Desire HD.. shipped stock with Froyo
Currently latest bootloader (.29 if i remember right)
HTC Dev Unlock
JellyTime ROM
but GPS dont work due to radio (dont show even notification icon)
Fix is to flash radio.. but I dont have a S-OFF.. (not Radio or even ENG S OFF)
Would like to ask.. what to do?
Everything i want is quick steps.. like.. go back to stock rooted rom.. do with aahk unlock (S OFF Mainly!) and then flash radio and restore Jelly Time rom?
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If GPS was working on stock rom, then radio is not the issue. Might be the set up...have you check the A-GPS fix??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252011
I will send you my radio version right? it worked fine on stock rom.. (2.3.5 Sense 3.0 RADIO: 12.65.60.29_26.14.04.28_M - HTC 3.12.405.1 WWE (Stock ROM)
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Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
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Probably not super hard, but since no one has posted one, and many people have figured it out themselves with the available resources, I can only assume two things.
1. People find their own time, which they would spend making your custom single-use video, as precious as you find your own time, which you refuse to spend doing a little research. Since it is you who wants to mess with your phone, if you want to mess with it, that time expenditure is on you.
2. Since others have figured it out themselves with the resources available, the research isn't hard and most certainly will not take hours and hours (unless you are not a native English speaker, which it looks like you are).
Note that like I already said, such instructions are recovery-dependent anyway.
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The reason I asked this question here was that if I ask for this any thread that is for a specific ROM for a specific phone, I get the what I described above: A either a long general "guide" that doesn't tell me how to do what I need to do on the phone I want to do it on, or a "guide" that assumes I know how to do each step in the process.
Look, I don't have time to devote hours and hours and hours to studying all this. If you do, that's great but I do not. If flashing the ROM is as simple as it is made out to be, why can't somebody make a youtube video that spells it out in plain English? It would be a lot clearer and a lot easier to understand. How hard would it be to make a simple you-tube video that walks the user through all the steps?
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Steps to follow are usually detailed in the each rom's thread....there are no secrets about how to do that, boot in recovery and do all the wipes. You in fact have lots of tutorials in you tube, so you are not right about saying that no one has done that...I actually did one and so have many others...instead of demanding people to do things easier for you, you can do a google search and you will find lots of stuff.
http://goo.gl/sfR7W
but take into consideration that a tutorial might not be precise in all matters and you can miss something for not reading. The starter guide I wrote has 8 pages and might take you to read about 15 minutes, don't you think that is worth to "waste" 15 minutes instead of risking your device?
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...since no one has posted one
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http://goo.gl/sfR7W
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Eating my words.
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Eating my words.
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lol, that is not posted here. And you know what XDA dev's think about video tutorials...but they do exist.
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A short memo to the OP: There are dozens of tutorials for flashing roms here. And thousands of users managed to flash with them. If you (as you say) don't have the time to look and read, why should anybody waste his time to make you another one? To support your lazyness? You were already warned by another moderator to show some respect and invest some time to understand.
If you really don't have the time to read and learn, then the best solution might be: you stay on stock rom :laugh:. You are warned. We will not accept that attitude another time.
Cheers