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Shatter proof sheet

Did anyone remove the shatter proof sheet from the phone? How does it feel, is it similiar to other touch phones then (the only smartphone I have except arc is Samsung Galaxy 551)? I hate it and would gladly remove it, I just don't know how's phone doing without it.

I can only tell you about my play, i removed the shatter proof screen protector, screen looks much brighter, and auto brightness works better, the mineral glass is hard to scratch and finger swipes are easer without the protector
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Thanks for your answer.
Can anyone tell me if it's the same with arc?

pawfyd said:
Thanks for your answer.
Can anyone tell me if it's the same with arc?
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Yes, just the same (I have never used the protector).

pawfyd said:
Thanks for your answer.
Can anyone tell me if it's the same with arc?
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I assume so we have the same screens

so the arc glass is very much scratch resistant?

@jtdc
The screen is mineral glass which is harder to scratch but by no means is it scratch proof. I still advise all to use a screen protector

AndroHero, any scratch on your screen yet?

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AndroHero, any scratch on your screen yet?
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My screen has no scratches, i put my phone in my jeans pocket with no pouch or protector, i have dropped my phone (only inside not outside) and the screen seems to be quite resiliant

Does removal of the protector reduce screen readability in sunlight?

Roenie82 said:
Does removal of the protector reduce screen readability in sunlight?
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Removing the protector would increase legibility in sunlight actually.

Has anyone used a privacy guard on this phone?

xtacy! said:
@jtdc
The screen is mineral glass which is harder to scratch but by no means is it scratch proof. I still advise all to use a screen protector
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I agree with the above statement. I dropped my Arc face-down recently (from a height of barely a foot and a half) and, when I retrieved it off of the floor, I found the glass to have developed three, small, dot-like "cracks" on it. I'd suggest you be careful with handling the phone, because one thing the glass isn't is scratch-resistant.

Are we talking about the pre-fitted protector ?
I think this thread is talking about the factory pre-fitted protector?
If so, I too have wondered about removing it. I previously used to have an HD2, (without screen protector) and that glass was still pristine after living in my pocket (until I went swimming with it.... actually the glass is still perfect).
I don't like screen protectors, so my thought was to leave the Arc protector on until it became it became annoying (it's gots some fine haze-like scratches now, but I can still live with it) and then remove it and see how the sony glass behaves.
What worried me is why the protector was factory fitted - did Sony not trust their glass tech?

I don't think its that Sony doesn't trust their glass, but rather how they decided to achieve the best looking screen possible.
What I think is, had they not used a shatter proof sheet they would have to make the glass stronger (which usually means thicker) and that would result in a less vibrant looking screen.
So choosing this current design, they're able to get a vibrant looking screen (with thinner glass) while keeping the strength of the glass high enough with the support of the shatter proof sheet.
When you think about how the Arc outperforms most other phones in direct sunlight, it kind of supports this hypothesis.

harfot said:
Yes, just the same (I have never used the protector).
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Ummm... you know the arc comes with one already fitted (in addition to the spare in the box), right?
Lycan73 said:
I agree with the above statement. I dropped my Arc face-down recently (from a height of barely a foot and a half) and, when I retrieved it off of the floor, I found the glass to have developed three, small, dot-like "cracks" on it. I'd suggest you be careful with handling the phone, because one thing the glass isn't is scratch-resistant
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Again, unless you'd already removed the factory-fitted screen protector, it's extremely likely that it's the protector that has the marks on it, not the screen itself.
Mine got dropped face down onto gravel and was scratched to buggery. I removed the protector (quite a job to get the thing off) and the screen underneath was pristine.
Cant really say that it's any brighter than it was, but it's certainly less fingerprinty than before.

AndroHero said:
I can only tell you about my play, i removed the shatter proof screen protector, screen looks much brighter, and auto brightness works better, the mineral glass is hard to scratch and finger swipes are easer without the protector
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my question is "how to remove it"??
me also want to remove shatter proof screen protector, but it very hard attached, difficult to remove.. -.-"
did we mention the same shatter proof screen protector? the one that we get when we buy our new ARC?? (mine is ARC S, but I think the shatter protector isn't different.. )
Thx for the reply, I'm really appreciate ^_^

BEWARE !!!
For extra protection i installed Amzer Matte finish screen protector over the shatter proof layer.
Dont remove the factory fitted shatter proof layer.
For your information if you remove the Shatter Proof layer then Accidently drop your phone and break the "Touch Digitizer" (Which is the part that breaks often) remember that you need to change the "Display " also because in Arc "Touch Digitizer & Display " comes as a single module.So why waste your hard earned money
If you want to verify, you can visit my post to see the Official Arc Service Manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23503276&postcount=55

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For your information if you remove the Shatter Proof layer then Accidently drop your phone and break the "Touch Digitizer" (Which is the part that breaks often) remember that you need to change the "Display " also because in Arc "Touch Digitizer & Display " comes as a single module.So why waste your hard earned money
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I think if you drop the phone, digitiser will break anyway, and the shatter-proof layer will just keep the pieces together. It's not a break-proof layer.
Also, installing 2 screen protectors on a phone is like... well... let's just say it takes away all the pleasure
(of using the awesome Arc screen).
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So Sony Ericsson fixed it over the screen just for fun & to decrease the UXP ??????

Who doesn't use a case or screen protector?

just asking because the phone is so big. I didn't use either on my SGS II either and had no issues with major scratches or resale. (sold for $405 on Ebay recently) with photographed blemishes with a small scratch and dings on the body. normal wear and tear.
I don't view my phones as jewelry or rare baseball cards. Resale has always been better than if I spent $50 on cases and screen protectors I buy my phones used and don;t worry about a few blemishes. The slim form factor and smooth screen outweighs the need for a perfectly blemish free device. The larger these devices get the less I am inclined to make them even larger.
Am I alone in this?

tbong777 said:
Am I alone in this?
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No.
10chars.

I don't use a screen protector or case either

blitzyman said:
I don't use a screen protector or case either
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no rubber we go raw?
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Im not using a case or screen protector. Not too sure about a case working with the car dock and I didnt think a screen protector was necessary with gorilla glass.

kane274 said:
(...) and I didnt think a screen protector was necessary with gorilla glass.
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in fact it could be safer - even with all my paranoia and safety precautions I happened to scratch my previous device - the glass is not sand-resistant

p107r0 said:
in fact it could be safer - even with all my paranoia and safety precautions I happened to scratch my previous device - the glass is not sand-resistant
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My SGS II was scratched as well but not bad enough to affect it's usefulness or sale. I had one scratch and I really did not baby the device and carried it in my pockets with all kinds of things. The glass scratch resistant not scratch proof. It takes a lot to scratch it though,

kane274 said:
Im not using a case or screen protector. Not too sure about a case working with the car dock and I didnt think a screen protector was necessary with gorilla glass.
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It really isn't UNLESS one is OCD about their device and would not be able to sleep if a blemish should occur. One of the reasons I buy used other than to save money is the phone is already marred. The first "door ding" or dent on a shiny new car or guitar is the worst. I don't buy either new either. Maybe I am more OCD than I thought

I always install screen protector and case to my mobile phones. Mostly because I prefer to keep all my device in prestine condition rather than resale value. I find it is less economical to "protect" your device than just leave it as it is. For example, I have spend $200 on different cases and screen protectors during my 1.5 years ownership of iphone 4. I doubt I sell my iphone 4 for $200 more.
But some Note's case provides a functionality in addition to protection. Those wallet case let you store credit card and cash inside so you don't have to carry addtional wallet, which is really appealing.

Mine had fine lines already.... so much abt the glass...
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I use a cheap 10 dollar case/belt clip, but no screen protector. I used a Dell Streak for a little over a year. Had a screen protector for about 2 months, took it off and never used one again. I didn't even bother with one on the Note.

After confirming that the screen is gorilla glass, I removed screen protector (it was scratched anyway). Not a single thing visible in the screen glass after 5 months. Of course I do not carry the phone in a pocket with sharp metal objects / sand / industrial cutting tools / diamonds...
The battery cover is another thing, it gets marks (lost texture) where it touches the table. Poor plastic, sorry. Anyway, replacing the battery cover costs the same as a case, and you don't have to cope with the extra size...

psun786 said:
I always install screen protector and case to my mobile phones. Mostly because I prefer to keep all my device in prestine condition rather than resale value. I find it is less economical to "protect" your device than just leave it as it is. For example, I have spend $200 on different cases and screen protectors during my 1.5 years ownership of iphone 4. I doubt I sell my iphone 4 for $200 more.
But some Note's case provides a functionality in addition to protection. Those wallet case let you store credit card and cash inside so you don't have to carry addtional wallet, which is really appealing.
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Interesting take. I don't know about pulling out all of that every time I want to use the phone though. For those who wear a suit and carry in their jacket pockets might be a great idea than the back pocket. I am leery of carrying a phone that sticks out above my back pocket though. Always carry in the front.

vcespon said:
After confirming that the screen is gorilla glass, I removed screen protector (it was scratched anyway). Not a single thing visible in the screen glass after 5 months. Of course I do not carry the phone in a pocket with sharp metal objects / sand / industrial cutting tools / diamonds...
The battery cover is another thing, it gets marks (lost texture) where it touches the table. Poor plastic, sorry. Anyway, replacing the battery cover costs the same as a case, and you don't have to cope with the extra size...
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Battery covers are Cheaper than all but the $2 Hong Kong gel cases. I have a White Note prefer a dark one but it was the only one available used at the time. I found one doesn't see blemishes as easily on the back cover. It came with the " Samsung foilio cover" but getting Sand under the screen cover could be a problem here at the beach so I dumped it.

i don't use either of them.... but i'd be happier if I did. Because the back panel of the phone already looks a bit scratched and bruised... whereas the screen has a noticeable thin scratch on it.
But anyways its just a phone after all, and being too obsessive about every small dot or change of it isn't too good for us.

OMG This it very cook thing

I'm just using a $3.50 matte screen protector (pack of three) with a $3.90 neoprene pouch from ebay.
Tried the TPU stuff, but that stuff attracts dust into the space between the screen and the bezel (about 1/10 of an inch opening?). Nasty crap.

i dont use either, never did with my hd2 either

Im thinking about screen protector - but case ? Hell no. I used a case on my iPhone 3G and guess what - the case scratched my screen, resulting in matte spots on the corners.
Just keep the keys in another pocket

My Note is used bare unless being transported in my bag and then it resides in a cheap Shocksock from Ebay ... I used to be fanatical about cases for my phones but hate the extra bulk and I use my car dock several times a day which just isn't practical alongside a case ...
The Notes beauty shouldn't be hidden beneath an ugly case ...
Bare is best in my opinion

Do we really need a screen protector

The guy in the phone shop told me I didn't need a screen protector with my note as it has gorilla glass, do you really needed one?
I do enjoy using the stylus a lot
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I was of the same opinion that SGN doesnt need a screen protector.
Now I have minor scratches on my screen (after 4 months of using it), they are visible when you put device under light.
Just to clarify I keep my right pocket free from anything (keys, coins, etc), plus I have a flip cover. Despite all of this I incurred scratches on the screen.
My advice is keep the screen protector, dont neglect it.

i always have a screen protector
its an expensive device, even if it is 1/million chance of getting a scratch, a screen protector is only a couple of £'s

I use my S-Pen over a matte screen protector and it's fine once you get used to the texture. It's always going to be different if it's not the screen you are touching.
I can't deny the super nice feel of using the stylus or even fingers on the screen itself. But yeah, like panyan said, the SGN is quite expensive, so I'd rather get used to the screen protector than risk scratches. And other people tend to use my phone a lot for games and stuff --- :| so that adds security.
However, if you use your phone very differently, like say: You never put it in your pocket and you have a flip cover, and you make sure to leave it on a flat surface when not in use --- I think you can make do without a protector. )

Yes, you do need a screen protector, all it takes is one grain of sand in your pocket to scratch your screen, gorilla glass or not it will scratch.
Gorilla glass is just scratch resistant not scratch proof.
Now fitting one without getting dust/dirt trapped underneath is another thing, I normally but a multi-pack as i know i am going to ruin a few.
An note owner recommend these though i have not tried them myself as i got a one with my gel case and i manged to fit it fist time perfect .
A nice generic guide to fitting a screen protector.
John.

You don't need screen protector. My screen is perfect after half-year using. I hate screen protectors, I feel it like a condom...

I usually fit one, have done to my other devices, have to agree some of them restrict you, have tried media devils on my wife's iPad, it gave you a tip to add few drops of water, then wipe clean this reduces the static which makes the dust attract, works a treat, have just ordered a 6 pack, interesting that gorilla glass is not as tough as they suggest
Sent from a galaxy note far far away

anonymous572 said:
You don't need screen protector. My screen is perfect after half-year using. I hate screen protectors, I feel it like a condom...
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so you will replace anyones device who listens to this information and decides not to fit a screen protector and then their screen gets scratched?

I have been using this spray to clean all my notebooks, tablets, phones for a couple of years and it works great, and it`s cheap.
Just spray a small amount on a clean cloth and not directly on the screen
John.
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THUDUK said:
interesting that gorilla glass is not as tough as they suggest
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There are two different things:
- Toughness
- Hardness
Toughness is how much you can bend something by before it breaks, think of a ruler, you can bend it into a big curve before it snaps -> good toughness
Glass on the other hand, the slightest knock (a tiny bend in the material), and it shatters -> bad toughness
Hardness is the surface resistance; so you can use a sharp knife on a ruler and it will cut into it -> low hardness
But with glass youd have to push alot harder for it to cut into it -> high hardness
Now we've got those simple analogies out of the way: Gorilla Glass is designed to extremely TOUGH, not hard, but TOUGH.
This means you can take a piece of Gorilla Glass and load the thing up will lots of weight and it will bend and bend and bend and finally breaks alot later than normal glass would
BUT, Gorilla Glass is no better than standard glass in a HARDNESS test, so you can still easily scratch the surface
(on the Corning site they claim that the surface has an "armour" but when looking through the technical material properties, the hardness test is inconclusive of this advantage)

Have you seen this Gorilla Glass 2 Video.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/232400088
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/232400088
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in that video the guy is applying a load to the glass and the glass is supported at the edge by a metal ring - so it is a flexural bending test
he says at the beginning that it is the industry standard strength test, which is neither toughness or hardness (just to confuse things )
basically this reinforces my point that gorilla glass is designed to bend under load and not crack - thanks for that video
EDIT: haha! just seen the end of that video:
normal soda lime - 27 pounds
fortified soda lime - 55 pounds
1mm GG2 - +120lbs
0.8mm GG2 - +120lbs
he could only get up to 120lbs of force and then claimed "20% thinner for the same performance" LLLOOOOLLLL
DUDE - youve got to take the samples to failure before you make performance claims!

It might be rated for up to 120lbs to manufactures even though it most likely can take more, but as with everything there might be strength variation between different batches of glass, plus it would look bad if it broke.
120lbs = 8st 8lb that`s a lot of weight.
John.

i always have a screen protector

Im using before a matt anti static screen guard but too dim. now im using clear guard and im satisfied so clear and bright.
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Definitely go with a screen protector. Worst case scenario you scratch the screen protector and feel relieved that it wasn't the screen!
I use the glas.t which has saved my girlfriends iphone from drops twice (plus a bunch of scratches) and my Note is still in pristine condition.
The arguments against a screen protector are null when you consider that there is a real risk of scratching your screen and a replacement means £££.
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nope i had my note for nearly 2month now and its still in mint condition, people on here claim to have scratched there screen using the s pen but i cant see how thats possible its designed to work on the glass, i am getting a oleophobic screen protector tho just incase and for peace of mind, but imo my gs2 and my g-note screens are tough as nails and i think even without a protector they will remain in mint condition.

I applied a screen protector on my iPhone 3gs before I touched it with my bare hands... I took it off a month after and after that I never used screen protectors again.
Sure, it ended up with a lil scratch which was only visible with a strong light and certain angle.
But on my old HD2 or Desire HD I never got a scratch - I always used a leather case for them.
On my new Galaxy note I wont use a screen protector either - fitted a nice Flip Cover first thing I did.
Usability -> Protection
You'll still sell the phone after 6 or 12 months why not enjoy it as much as you can.
Like another user said; it's like using a condom. Agreed, I hate condoms.

If you end up getting a screen protector, I would suggest Zaag. Extremely durable. In fact, they are almost impossible to break.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

Uhm, I had 3 scratches after putting it in my jeans pocket (it was the only thing in there, no keys or anything else).
The Note scratches easier than my old Nokia 5800 plastic phone and my Cheap hannspad tegra 2 tablet (which by the way has 1 scratch after ~1.5 years and I've been dropping it, throwing it, treating it like crap.. but this thing doesn't want to die

Screen scratches?

I've always used heavy duty cases with a built in screen protector but I punch them out and use the screen naked. I'm a mechanic and usually have dirt etc on my hands when I use my phone. I've never had a issue with a scratched screen.
Recently I bought my young son a phone (without gorilla glass) and the case I bought him came with a tempered glass screen protector so I put it on there and I really liked it (I've never used one before) so I put one on my 6p and like the added piece of mind.
On to my dilemma, I bought a pixel xl the other day and was using it naked since my case and screen protector hasn't come in yet. While eating dinner one night the phone slipped out of my pocket and onto my laminate wood floor. When I picked it up it had a scratch across the screen so bad I thought the screen was cracked. Luckily the phone was defective (bad sim slot or something, would drop service randomly) and had to be exchanged. I'm leaving the new phone in the box until my case gets here but the screen protectors are here and they suck. They are too small and no matter what I can't install them perfectly straight to cover the whole viewing area. Looks like I'm going to have to run the phone without a screen protector but I'm afraid the screen will get scratched again since the first phone for such a bad scratch and over never had this problem with other phones.
Anyone else have their screen scratch easily? I've attached a photo of the scratch which doesn't do it justice of how deep and long the scratch was and a photo of the screen protector improperly installed (super hard to line up correctly, no margin for error).
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The screen protectors are like a mm or two shorter around because of the beveled edge. You will never get 100% of the screen covered at this time. If the screen protectors were full size, the edge bevels would cause bubbling and also make it easy to peel off.
This is from reading many reviews on tons of screen covers. I'd assume a nice case + screen glass would make it almost invisible to the naked eye.

That's my problem, I don't think a proper glass screen protector will ever be available for this phone. At this point I think the pixel has too many strikes against it and I might return it and stick with my 6p. I just hope if I do that the 6p will work OK with daydream.
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This is going to be an issue with most phones going forward now, 2.5D glass (or glass with a slight curve to it) looks nicer and feels nicer and therefore manufactures will use it. I personally have a tempered glass screen protector that covers the viewable screen portion of the front of the phone and it still feels every bit as premium as it did with out it. I currently use my phone in the google case (in grey) and i love it, i have a couple of skins on their way though so I will be ditching the case soon. I have a scratch on the rear glass panel but this will be covered up soon hopefully.
If you are quick Tempered Glass Screen Protectors for the Pixel XL are dead cheap as companies try to establish a customer base for their products. I picked up two for £0.01 and 99p postage on amazon.

Mdizzle1 said:
This is going to be an issue with most phones going forward now, 2.5D glass (or glass with a slight curve to it) looks nicer and feels nicer and therefore manufactures will use it. I personally have a tempered glass screen protector that covers the viewable screen portion of the front of the phone and it still feels every bit as premium as it did with out it. I currently use my phone in the google case (in grey) and i love it, i have a couple of skins on their way though so I will be ditching the case soon. I have a scratch on the rear glass panel but this will be covered up soon hopefully.
If you are quick Tempered Glass Screen Protectors for the Pixel XL are dead cheap as companies try to establish a customer base for their products. I picked up two for £0.01 and 99p postage on amazon.
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What screen protector do you have? I ordered another brand. I'll be using the i-blison ( or whatever brand it is) heavy duty case and am hoping to find a proper screen protector. To be honest I wouldn't even use one if the first screen didn't scratch so easily/ bad since with all my other phones I've had such good luck. I plan to use this phone with daydream tho so I need a screen without scratches.
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Looking at the OnePlus 3 since it has 2.5d glass and has been out for a while and came across this screen protector: https://youtu.be/8ZgKLWhwoPo
Hopefully something like this will come out for the pixel xl, it looks much better and would go great with a case that has a thick lip.
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What screen protector do you have? I ordered another brand. I'll be using the i-blison ( or whatever brand it is) heavy duty case and am hoping to find a proper screen protector. To be honest I wouldn't even use one if the first screen didn't scratch so easily/ bad since with all my other phones I've had such good luck. I plan to use this phone with daydream tho so I need a screen without scratches.
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I have used this one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tempered-S...51182&sr=8-7&keywords=pixel+XL+tempered+glass
I am now using this one, i only removed the first so I could review this one after being sent it for free - It is exactly the same as above but more expensive.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protector-...1182&sr=sr-1&keywords=pixel+XL+tempered+glass
Both cover the width of the visible screen and are 1.5mm short of the two and bottom of the phone. The glass has a cut out for the proximity sensor and do not cover the front facing camera. No halo effect as they are a bit smaller than the front of the phone and so far no scratches or lifting. As mentioned I currently use it with the official google grey case.

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I have used this one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tempered-S...51182&sr=8-7&keywords=pixel+XL+tempered+glass
I am now using this one, i only removed the first so I could review this one after being sent it for free - It is exactly the same as above but more expensive.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Protector-...1182&sr=sr-1&keywords=pixel+XL+tempered+glass
Both cover the width of the visible screen and are 1.5mm short of the two and bottom of the phone. The glass has a cut out for the proximity sensor and do not cover the front facing camera. No halo effect as they are a bit smaller than the front of the phone and so far no scratches or lifting. As mentioned I currently use it with the official google grey case.
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That looks a lot like the pleason one I got.
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That looks a lot like the pleason one I got.
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Yeah I imagine most of the early ones are from the same manufacturer in China.

Gorilla Glass 4 isn't better than the previous version(s). Besides, they make the phone scratch resistant, not scratch proof.. Sand, tiny little diamonds cut through just about anything...
Glad you at least had a remedy of having it exchanged for some other hardware failure, otherwise you'd had to get an insurance exchange and paid the deductible..

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That's my problem, I don't think a proper glass screen protector will ever be available for this phone. At this point I think the pixel has too many strikes against it and I might return it and stick with my 6p. I just hope if I do that the 6p will work OK with daydream.
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I've used 6p for vr and it gets sooooo hot. Great phone bad processor. Just my experience

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I've used 6p for vr and it gets sooooo hot. Great phone bad processor. Just my experience
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Thanks, that's what I'm afraid of. Did you notice any performance issues?
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DualSportDad said:
Thanks, that's what I'm afraid of. Did you notice any performance issues?
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Yes. And it simply gets too hot. My personal experiences. I was riding roller coaster

treIII said:
Yes. And it simply gets too hot. My personal experiences. I was riding roller coaster
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Sweet thanks. I'll hang on to the pixel for now. Btw nice car in your avatar, gn's are sweet!
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Update: Pleason emailed me and said they have a new style screen protector that is wider by about 1-1.5mm. they are sending me some.
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Its glass its gonna scratch sooner or later, some get lucky, some dont.
IMHO using a wet install protector like skinomi or xtremeguard and worry less about it.
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DualSportDad said:
That's my problem, I don't think a proper glass screen protector will ever be available for this phone. At this point I think the pixel has too many strikes against it and I might return it and stick with my 6p. I just hope if I do that the 6p will work OK with daydream.
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Nexus 6, LG G4, Samsung 4 5 6, iphone 6s+ and many more all have had the same problems, like its been mentioned, newer phones use new tech like 2.5D screens which have curves. Its the cheap tgsp manufacturers that dont warrant the expense of making expensive tgsp that fit the curves.

Question Fear of getting scratched my 7.6" z fold 3 infinite display !!!

I had used multiple screen protectors for my pricey Z fold 3, but none of them fit properly. Within a few folds, it just peels off or bubbles shoot out. This annoys me and makes me feel uneasy when using it since I should be more cautious with my z fold while gaming because I am worried of scratching it with my nails?

in reading some of the samsung forums, the samsung reps have described that if you use a 3rd party screen protector over the factory installed PET layer, it will void the warranty if you have issues down the road and attempt to make a claim. I'm just quoting what i've read though so no expert here. Maybe the PET is the reason it's not staying put well. Maybe you would be better off using the S-pen on the inner display if you are worried about scratches. i know it's not ideal for some though having to pull that out all the time with the inner display.

jst use PET stock layer and get it replaced when it has scratches. Watch youtube durabilitty test. He scratched the PET layer with nails and knifes, and screen was perfect after peeling it off.

good video

Bababooy said:
in reading some of the samsung forums, the samsung reps have described that if you use a 3rd party screen protector over the factory installed PET layer, it will void the warranty if you have issues down the road and attempt to make a claim. I'm just quoting what i've read though so no expert here. Maybe the PET is the reason it's not staying put well. Maybe you would be better off using the S-pen on the inner display if you are worried about scratches. i know it's not ideal for some though having to pull that out all the time with the inner display.
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It does not void warranty. What they say is if you damage screen removing the protector its not covered under warranty.

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Thanks for sharing man. I'd seen them, but in practice, it's crucial to handle the Z Fold 3 with caution while it's in your hands.

Bababooy said:
in reading some of the samsung forums, the samsung reps have described that if you use a 3rd party screen protector over the factory installed PET layer, it will void the warranty if you have issues down the road and attempt to make a claim. I'm just quoting what i've read though so no expert here. Maybe the PET is the reason it's not staying put well. Maybe you would be better off using the S-pen on the inner display if you are worried about scratches. i know it's not ideal for some though having to pull that out all the time with the inner display.
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Yeah, I too had the same thought for the PET layer.
I purchased S pen with the fold, but I also play games on a regular basis, therefore I'm searching for screen protectors for additional protection. If this isn't a foldable device, I'd use temper glass and never worry about such things.

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It does not void warranty. What they say is if you damage screen removing the protector its not covered under warranty.
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Despite having seen it, I have some concerns about screens, and the Samsung Care Plus is rather expensive, so I planned to purchase it within a month.
Seriously, I don't want to replace the screen on a regular basis, which is why I'm looking for screen protectors. Also, they have limited claims for those purchases

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It does not void warranty. What they say is if you damage screen removing the protector its not covered under warranty.
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Yeah, I had seen the plan but Samsung doesn't describe those?
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Use Sunglass pouch for extra protection

My Fold2 had scratches on both screen protectors from daily interactions. My Fold3 has none. The inner screen protector feels more like glass this time around and is doing really well at staying free of scratches. I'm a heavy Note user and am mostly utilizing the inner screen. Very pleased this time around. Have owned my Fold3 for over a month now, zero scratches.

JayRolla said:
It does not void warranty. What they say is if you damage screen removing the protector its not covered under warranty.
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if you install a 3rd party screen protector over the existing one, and somehow the UTG breaks bc of the increased pressure while folding, i'd imagine it would be your fault and not covered under warranty.
why not trust that the existing screen protector will protect the phone? it feels good and doesn't peel, if it becomes too scratched then i would say think about replacing it. otherwise, just enjoy the device and try not to scratch it!

Osimma said:
if you install a 3rd party screen protector over the existing one, and somehow the UTG breaks bc of the increased pressure while folding, i'd imagine it would be your fault and not covered under warranty.
why not trust that the existing screen protector will protect the phone? it feels good and doesn't peel, if it becomes too scratched then i would say think about replacing it. otherwise, just enjoy the device and try not to scratch it!
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I agree. I never once said to remove the protector and still have mine. I am just letting people know if they remove the protector. Warranty is not voided.

seancannery88 said:
Never be concerned about an existing screen protector. I reviewed two of my colleague's z fold3, one of them is a heavy user. If you had removed or disturbed the existing screen protector and looking for a new one, the gadgetshield screen protector is a good option
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Ok then, I will look over them

At what point do scratches on the screen become noticeable to the point where it's bothersome?
I ask simply because I use tempered glass on my iPhones because I hate micro scratches and want best resale.
Well lo and behold my screen protector got a nice deep scratch about 12 mm long near the middle of the screen. I noticed it because my nail dragging on it was clicking noticeably. Looking at the screen is was completely un detectable! It would take a LOT of scratches or physical cracking before it would be annoying, right?
That's when I change the protector when it gets cracked or dinged from a fall. Otherwise...

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At what point do scratches on the screen become noticeable to the point where it's bothersome?
I ask simply because I use tempered glass on my iPhones because I hate micro scratches and want best resale.
Well lo and behold my screen protector got a nice deep scratch about 12 mm long near the middle of the screen. I noticed it because my nail dragging on it was clicking noticeably. Looking at the screen is was completely un detectable! It would take a LOT of scratches or physical cracking before it would be annoying, right?
That's when I change the protector when it gets cracked or dinged from a fall. Otherwise...
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I thought this thread was dead, what you're saying is true and the screen protector does get scratches and makes the screen look blurry at that point I will change it. But with tempered glass, it breaks soon to be replaced so I was fed up with it on my previous devices. Anyway, this is a foldable device so I installed the film protector which heals the scratches on it, I know it is not believable but it works!!

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I thought this thread was dead, what you're saying is true and the screen protector does get scratches and makes the screen look blurry at that point I will change it. But with tempered glass, it breaks soon to be replaced so I was fed up with it on my previous devices. Anyway, this is a foldable device so I installed the film protector which heals the scratches on it, I know it is not believable but it works!!
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Did you replace the inner one?

Techvir said:
Did you replace the inner one?
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Yes, I replaced it with a Gadagetshieldz film screen protector and it is better than the factory protector because it can self-heal the scratches and is good with the fingerprint sensor too!

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Yes, I replaced it with a Gadagetshieldz film screen protector and it is better than the factory protector because it can self-heal the scratches and is good with the fingerprint sensor too!
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It's good with the FP sensor?!