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Hi,
If someone can explain this to me ...
I found out that there is separation on Android Market, user from certain countries cannot purchase certain apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6046360&postcount=4
Why is that?
So, if I am in the UK, I can only purchase apps that are available ONLY for UK market?
I could not think any single reason of this kind of decision will help the customers and the developers.
Why is it not just ONE SINGLE Android Market for EVERYONE?
Well. Nobody really knows. Its very annoying. Its the same story here in Denmark. No paid apps on non-rootet phones with Market enabler.
HTC and google can not give us an answer to why or when paid apps will be availble for us.
Indeed, this is very annoying and I could not think any benefit of it.
I am just wondering, is there anything like this on iPhone? There is in WM, but I believe Microsoft decided to change that on WP7.
I hope Google will change this decission to make Android more attractive to software developers.
I suspect that the country filtering is present for several reasons.
1. Country specific applications. There is no need for an app that only applies to i.e. the UK to be displayed in Asia or in the US.
2. Copyright and trademark issues. Arrangements needs to be done in each country as laws are different.
3. Localization. I assume that Google does not want to add paid apps support in countries not yet fully localized to the local language. This was the case when Android was initially released. The G1 was released in the UK and in the US, and paid apps did not become avaliable until Android had been localized to for example German or French. Once the translations were complete, paid apps followed shortly after.
While Android is currently localized to several other languages, Norwegian included, these translations are far from complete, and needs some additional work.
Hopefully it should not take so long, but hey, who knows.
I will download the localization strings in a short while, and try to perfect them a bit more. After all, Android is open source.
Actually it does make sense for some application to be available in only one country. To give you an example, why would someone in the UK be interested in an application about traffic in Copenhagen? When a developer publishes his app he can chose to make it available for all countries or just for specific countries. Blackberry App World has something like this and I'm not 100% sure but I think the iphone also.
And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
Are free aps also separated or is it just payed ones?
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And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
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Exactly! Also, I don't think copyright would have anything to do with it. AFAIK, it wouldn't matter which country you made your app available to. If it's copyrighted and you disctribute it, you're in trouble.
I can't imagine google getting involved in copyright issues for each and every app. Im pretty sure they would shift liability to the developer/provider in their terms and conditions.
Localisation exists for the following reasons.
1. Language. You can make 1 app that supports all languages, but if there is a lot of text this would cause the app to bloat with unnecessary stuff. simpler to make apps for each language/region.
2. Localisation. The dev may decide there is no point in his app being available outside his particular locale. The first App i noticed this with was to do with the American Presidential elections. Of course I can still see a lot of US specific Transport Apps here in the UK, because the dev has decided it would be worthwile people from other regions having them (holidaymakers for instance).
3. Payment. If you set up an app for worldwide distribution it is priced in your own local currency. If you price an App for a specific region it is priced in that regions currency. This means the price of an app will not fluctuate with exchange rates, which may make people more likely to buy.
I live in Denmark, and as i understand it, the reason why we cannot have the payed apps here are because Google and the telephone companies have not agreed about how the payment modells are to work.
-They both want to big a cut of the cake.
Heh, the funny thing is that Google owns Admob, and their own Adwords service. They essentially makes a lot of money regardless of whether the developer chooses to support it through ads or through direct sales.
I stumbled across this website last night which lists (what looks like) every app on the Android marketplace, along with a QR Code (3D Barcode).
http :// www . cyrket . com
Could this be a workaround to be able to get hold of applications not available in certain countries? It's just that I can't help but notice japanese titles on there with a Yen price next to them.
I've just ordered my Desire today, but have been trying to find out which apps are available - I'm a little annoyed you can't just browse them on the android marketplace website!
Usually the QR code is just for a marketplace search, if it isn't available in your location or phone then you still can't download it.
The only way to bypass this is direct purchase from the developer or downloading the apk to install with an apkinstaller.
Then why there is not any alternative market?
You know, just a website which developer can submit their app there ... accessible via special app from the phone ... do the transaction via web
Like download.com Or cydia for the iPhone?
Microsoft will do it (single unified app market place) with WP7, why not Google? Strange ...
Ah I see, bugger... That's a shame.
Surely it's down to the developer to make it a global rather than a regional app on publishing to the marketplace?
My mother purchased an HTC Desire in Korea on SK Telecom and unfortunately the android market is severely crippled. Only free Chinese and Korean apps can be downloaded. No games, paid apps, or foreign apps are available for download.
The reason there are no games is because the Korean government only allows the sale of games that are rated (ie. 12, 15, 18) which none of the apps in the android market are.
I was wondering if rooting and installing a different ROM would circumvent this issue and allow her to download other apps. Or if there is another way around this that would be great.
Also, will a different ROM cause problems such as no text messages or 3G service?
I know that all Windows Mobile phones in Korea have carrier specific ROMs that are different from foreign ROMs because the messaging/data service is different in Korea. Although this may not be the case with Android phones.
Thanks for all your help.
You need to root so you can use market enabler (app) then you can download from other countries markets. You don't need to flash another rom but you can do that if you want to, should not encounter any problems there.
Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I'll try it out and see how it goes.
The mango rtm 7720 is not the final full version
its the same as the beta with a different build
becaus ei noticed it lacks the local scout and the photo apps functions found in the HTC mazaa
so there u go..
I have the local scout stuff on 7712 on my HD7. What are the photo apps functions you talk about? Would like to check....
Hmm i have the local scout and the picture optimizer with 7720
but i had to change my Browser and search language to english (us)
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But the display language is german
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... What are the photo apps functions you talk about? Would like to check....
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If you take a picture and than open the menu (...) scroll down and the last link is to optimize the picture
i dont jave the local scout or is it only for USA?
i am on asia HD7
this is the HTC mazaa
it looks different. I dont have the local scout and i also dont have the saturation sharpness ect in my photo app
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i managed to get the local scout by changing the browser language
but the photo options still not there
Local Scout, fyi, is region dependent, I had my phone set to French/France and it was available, when I switched it to French/Belgium it was gone.
The options for pictures we see in the Mazaa, I guess they are Manufacturer related.
Don't forget that the 7720 rtm leaked is the plain OS with no Manufacturer enhancements.
Edit: on second note, while looking at the second pic: this are not pictures enhancement you are seeing but the camera parameters, lol
1. I didn't have local scout either, until I hardreset
2. I had camera settings from a firmware update not the mango update
can anyone else confirm that camera settings updated with firmware updates or os update?
domineus said:
1. I didn't have local scout either, until I hardreset
2. I had camera settings from a firmware update not the mango update
can anyone else confirm that camera settings updated with firmware updates or os update?
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i am not sure....
It is the final build and those feature are, as mentioned, region dependent.
Its the final version of Mango from Microsoft, but not the final version for your phone. What Microsoft released is different from what will be loaded onto your phones. Mango still has to be customized by carriers and optimized for specific devices by manufacturers.
So in a way, yes, this is not THE final version, but Microsoft isn't doing any more hard work on the OS (such as adding new functionality), that is left up to the carriers and manufacturers.
The camera options/parameters are something that can be customized by the phone manufacturer. Certain phones will get more advanced or just basic camera options to play around with. Just depends on what the manufacturer wants to do.
As for why certain features (like Local Scout, or Music Search) are missing, its because every feature is dependent on the region set on your phone and/or your Windows Live ID. If your region does not support the function, it does not appear.
My region is set to UK and I have local scout. FYI.
To the OP:
I'm on 7712, and I have the camera settings and local scout... Those features don't confirm "real" RTM or not. As has been said, region and manufacturer differences account for any differences between mazaa's 7720.50 and 7720.68
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does anyone know if carrier optimisations will result in better performance and battery life??
because i am seeing the same battery life from beta 2 in the RTM.
Magpir said:
does anyone know if carrier optimisations will result in better performance and battery life??
because i am seeing the same battery life from beta 2 in the RTM.
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It could. Remember, all the upgrade is on you phone is 7720 with NoDo drivers in it.
When your carrier releases it's update, it will come down from the OEM to the carrier for the correct drivers for the phone. So it should be tweaked and battery life could get a lot better...
Unless the carrier screws it up and then you'll just have to wait for someone on XDA here to fix it...
So, it might
Can we just delete this entire thread? It's not helpful, and it's incorrect.
If Im on Mango 7720 how do I get the Local Scout title? Im on TMO USA.
JosepHenry said:
If Im on Mango 7720 how do I get the Local Scout title? Im on TMO USA.
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You pin it from the Maps application. Local Scout is a feature of the built in Maps app, so just go into Maps, hit the Local Scout button on the bottom, and you will find an option to pin Local Scout to the start screen from within there.
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You pin it from the Maps application. Local Scout is a feature of the built in Maps app, so just go into Maps, hit the Local Scout button on the bottom, and you will find an option to pin Local Scout to the start screen from within there.
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thanks for the tip!!! i've been using this feature quite a bit with 7712 and 7720.
Hi!
I'll try to explain me as best as possible here about the 2 main issues I have with my One X.
I'm living in Shanghai, and I've bought it here, however, because of the stupid issues between Google and China, my One X doesn't have the Google play store.
I tried to dowmload it, and it doesn't launch, after a second or 2, I'm back to the main screen of my phone.
I contacted HTC, and they basically told me to use the Hiapk market, but it's extremely limited, and some apps won't work. For ex: downloading Foursquare through this parallel market is ok, but when it comes to the install, it would just tell me that the app can't be installed...
I asked HTC if it's possible to overcome these restrictions, as I'm french, and would certainly go back to France someday... Had no answer... As for foursquare, HTC told me to contact foursquare directly.
So, I would like to know if it is possible to change the OS of the phone to put one from anywhere else in the world where the play store is not factory censored, and if that would for example solve the foursquare issue (or any possible issue that I might have with other apps).
Sorry if I'm not using the good terms, but I just switched from IOS to android 3 weeks ago...
The warranty would certainly be void, but I'm up taking the risk as I can't use the phone for more than 2/3 games... I feel like I've just made an expensive mistake...
Thanks in advance for your help!
You can root it and install a custom rom on it that will give you access to the play store.
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How could I do that ? what does root exactly means ?
I'm new to android, and I'm not sure about what I should do. Did few research but I'm not sure about what I should pick and install on it.
I'm not looking for anything fancy, just the same OS but with the possibility to have the play store, I don't really want to overclock or change it at all levels.
Thanks for the answer!
Rooting is like "administrator" access on a PC, if that makes sense. You can install a custom ROM that looks like what you have now but with extra features. I think if you go in the development section there are a few threads you can look at that will help you root and install a custom ROM so you can access the play store. Goodluck
Will definitely give it a shot
Thanks for your help!
If you are rooted you can simply install the 'market enabler' app
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use a VPN
qtableau,
(and others behind the #@$!%* Great FireWall)
i live in SH as well,
Do yourself a really big favor! Get a VPN!
Rooted phones do nothing for websites that are blocked (which come and go).
A rooted phone is not a solution to blocked websites
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Market Enabler, although a great app, can not be used to unblock websites, it merely tells the Android Market/Google play store you are using a different service provider so you can download apps not available in your country (to bypass the “This item is not compatible with your device” MSG) IE my China Unicom Device is displayed as "AT&T HTC Desire" in the play store
AND because almost every non-Chinese website in the world has a facebook, twitter, and a Google+ feed/rss button/, every time a non Chinese page loads the #@$!%* Great FireWall needs time to check it out before it loads, so without a vpn surfing on a mobile can be horrible.
I use a VPN service provided by 12vpn, you can use it with multiple computers and mobile devices simultaneously. It will change your life. I have it on 4 desktops, a laptop, an iphone and android phone.
And you can use it to access online content that is not available outside certain countries ie: i can access the online TV website hulu.com which is only available to US residents.
one caveat: you CAN'T use it on a computer that has a running a torrent program though...which sucks! You have to close the program before you can run the vpn but just on (i pretty sure this a 12vpn policy, other providers should let u use a torrent program simultaneously)`
Costs about 400RMB a year but freedom is PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!
Disclosure: I am 4 year customer of 12vpn.com and have no other interests/connections to the company
IMHO Chinese censorship is mostly a BUSINESS decision. Same as any governmental organization that requires a certain amount of local programming on TV or radio (FCC, CRTC,oxfam etc)
Hi! I was wondering if you found a solution? I have the exact same problem. I recently bought a Galaxy S3 and found out i cant access google play or any of the google apps. i downloaded the APK files and tried to install it, but they don't open at all. I'd love to hear how you solved (and hope you di!)
qtableau said:
Hi!
I'll try to explain me as best as possible here about the 2 main issues I have with my One X.
I'm living in Shanghai, and I've bought it here, however, because of the stupid issues between Google and China, my One X doesn't have the Google play store.
I tried to dowmload it, and it doesn't launch, after a second or 2, I'm back to the main screen of my phone.
I contacted HTC, and they basically told me to use the Hiapk market, but it's extremely limited, and some apps won't work. For ex: downloading Foursquare through this parallel market is ok, but when it comes to the install, it would just tell me that the app can't be installed...
I asked HTC if it's possible to overcome these restrictions, as I'm french, and would certainly go back to France someday... Had no answer... As for foursquare, HTC told me to contact foursquare directly.
So, I would like to know if it is possible to change the OS of the phone to put one from anywhere else in the world where the play store is not factory censored, and if that would for example solve the foursquare issue (or any possible issue that I might have with other apps).
Sorry if I'm not using the good terms, but I just switched from IOS to android 3 weeks ago...
The warranty would certainly be void, but I'm up taking the risk as I can't use the phone for more than 2/3 games... I feel like I've just made an expensive mistake...
Thanks in advance for your help!
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I found a solution by paying a bit more...
I gave up on trying to read all the tutorials on how to root phones and went to an electronic market in SH (where I live, if you do, go to xujiahui to do so)
For a hundred RMB, I got it changed to a hongkong OS, where everything is allowed and works great. Some updates not even available on the official one in China went with it. Hope it helps and that you'll be able to find a market near your place.
Basically, my advice for some other people reading this thread: Don't buy it in a real shop, go to a market, they're half the price, and already flashed to a "working" version... wish I'd known that
Play Store also don´t work with VPN cause the issue isn´t connection kind but factory blocked. So I wil go also the way to get my OS changed. Guess there´s a big risk of abortive flash so is there any possibility of orig. OS back up to be flashed back if any inconvience happen?
Pls help me
Hi, I do have the exact same problem with my Note2. I bought it in store in Beijing.
And now I'm stuck coz there's nothing more I could do without the Play Store.
How did you find the market? And What did you tell them?
Most of the chinese here cannot understand English so how can we tell them?
Please help me out with this.
Thank you.
download orbot.apk(requires root to fully function) or hotspotshield.apk look for them on google (how ironic), use them only when using market(they slow down the internet to some extent, but act as a proxy on your phone)
qtableau said:
I found a solution by paying a bit more...
I gave up on trying to read all the tutorials on how to root phones and went to an electronic market in SH (where I live, if you do, go to xujiahui to do so)
For a hundred RMB, I got it changed to a hongkong OS, where everything is allowed and works great. Some updates not even available on the official one in China went with it. Hope it helps and that you'll be able to find a market near your place.
Basically, my advice for some other people reading this thread: Don't buy it in a real shop, go to a market, they're half the price, and already flashed to a "working" version... wish I'd known that
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Hi, do you know if you made something else to your phone? i know that this S3 version from UNICOM uses a different modem that wont allow us to install anyother Samsung build and i was wondering about if in the WHOLE world there was another country that used the same modem so i can install that build in my China/unicom phone. If this is a transparent solution I AM SOOOO DOING IT!
Android phone without Google Play
qtableau said:
I found a solution by paying a bit more...
I gave up on trying to read all the tutorials on how to root phones and went to an electronic market in SH (where I live, if you do, go to xujiahui to do so)
For a hundred RMB, I got it changed to a hongkong OS, where everything is allowed and works great. Some updates not even available on the official one in China went with it. Hope it helps and that you'll be able to find a market near your place.
Basically, my advice for some other people reading this thread: Don't buy it in a real shop, go to a market, they're half the price, and already flashed to a "working" version... wish I'd known that
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HI bleau,
Did the guy explain to you in detail what he has done to your device? I have the same problem with the phone (THl W8) I bought in China.
Vcek said:
download orbot.apk(requires root to fully function) or hotspotshield.apk look for them on google (how ironic), use them only when using market(they slow down the internet to some extent, but act as a proxy on your phone)
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Probably the best way, spoofs ip address.
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Hello guys!
If you have this kind of issues then the only thing you need to do is:
- Download FASTBOOT files, Google it, it should be 3 files. The size small. Make your own folder called "Android" on C: Drive. Put the files there.
- Unlock the Boot loader, go to your respective forums and find a way to unlock your device's Boot loader.
- Get ClockWorkMod recovery for your device, Google it, go to their website, search for newest version for your device, download.
- Put the .img file onto the "Android" folder.
- Enter Boot loader mode (For HTC it's POWER + Volume Down). Navigate using physical buttons, and Select FASTBOOT option.
- Flash it with CMD on Windows by using this command:
--- cd c:\Android
--- fastboot flash recovery name_of_recovery_you_downloaded.img
--- fastboot erase cache
- Done all that, search for a custom ROM that's already pre-ROOTed and has built-in Kernel to avoid troubles like boot loops.
- Put that ROM onto your SD card, DO NOT EXTRACT THE ZIP.
- Enter Recovery by going into Boot loader mode
- Full Wipe/Factory Reset your phone through Recovery, then erase Cache through Recovery too.
- "Install zip from SD" card through Recovery, select the ROM.zip, select YES. Now wait.
- Voila, Democracy speaks for itself ;D
Thank me if i helped! :laugh:
*All credits goes to Mr Hofs, as he is the one that guides me from nothingness *
Hi. I have the same problem and I live in Shanghai as well. Can you let me know where did you get your phone jailbroken?
qtableau said:
I found a solution by paying a bit more...
I gave up on trying to read all the tutorials on how to root phones and went to an electronic market in SH (where I live, if you do, go to xujiahui to do so)
For a hundred RMB, I got it changed to a hongkong OS, where everything is allowed and works great. Some updates not even available on the official one in China went with it. Hope it helps and that you'll be able to find a market near your place.
Basically, my advice for some other people reading this thread: Don't buy it in a real shop, go to a market, they're half the price, and already flashed to a "working" version... wish I'd known that
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How do Marketplaces obtain their own data? For example, where does Windows Phone Marketplace get the list of apps? How can I access these data?
Merry Christmas! :fingers-crossed:
Merry Christmas to you too.
There is a very special server that holds these data, and you can't get your hands on it. If you wanna look in other region marketplaces, replace the region-language code in your region's link with the appropriate code for your desired region.
this link accesses Italy marketplace
http://windowsphone.com/it-it/store/
this one accesses UK marketplace
http://windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/
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Merry Christmas to you too.
There is a very special server that holds these data, and you can't get your hands on it. If you wanna look in other region marketplaces, replace the region-language code in your region's link with the appropriate code for your desired region.
this link accesses Italy marketplace
http://windowsphone.com/it-it/store/
this one accesses UK marketplace
http://windowsphone.com/en-gb/store/
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ok. So how do Alternative Marketplaces as "AppVegas" or "App Market" obtain their data?
Indirectly from the same server. They present you with web browser-like experience, and when you wish to download the actual app, you get sent to the actual marketplace.
There are several ways you can access the marketplace, and the developer has several options about app availability.
There are no official "alternative" marketplace, only apps that mimic the marketplace and help you find hidden apps(sometimes).
Thanks! I will leave this idea...