Hello.
Is there anyone who has tried to disable HTC sense on a Desire with the new update? Can it be done?
I use Android 2.2 on my HD2 via the new Darkstone ROM and much is different. The lock-up bar has two sides, one to unlock the phone and the other to shut of sound. The app menu has scrolling like a waterfall etc.
Much of these functions I now want on the Desire.
Please help!
You can't disable Sense in ROM, but you can flash many other 2.2 ROMs that doesent have sense!
Closest you can get to "disabling" Sense is to root your phone and deleting a few apps from /system/app. You can also install a different homescreen/launcher and lock screen.
Can I still root the phone with the new 2.2 update? I thought that wouldn't work now that the update had a new loader.
What apps can I install to mimic "vanilla" 2.2?
Thanks for all the help.
Jaderlund said:
Can I still root the phone with the new 2.2 update? I thought that wouldn't work now that the update had a new loader.
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If you installed OTA, no you cannot root and thus cannot install custom ROMs.
What apps can I install to mimic "vanilla" 2.2?
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You don't need to "mimic" vanilla 2.2 - just install one of the AOSP ROMs and you will have vanilla 2.2!
Regards,
Dave
My Desire also got FroYo yesterday and i wanted to disable Sense even before that. I dont know anything about Rooting of the new bootloader (mine is 0.92.0001) but luckily my brother rooted his phone some weeks ago and installed a custom ROM(more vanilla android like).
He then sent my several stockapps directly from his /system/app folder, like stock android-keyboard (LatinImeGoogle.apk) and email-client (EmailGoogle.apk). I also tried installing the launcher and installing works, but the phone button will say "missing app" or sth. Phone.apk or Contacts.apk unfortunetly dont install, you probably need root for that.
the keyboard and email are those apps that i use most, so for my part with those installed i can wait some weeks to get root again to install a custom ROM
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Hi,
Im totally new to phone flashing, rooting etc. Please answer few of my questions before I make something bad to my beloved Desire
I have Wavesecure installed. However it has a limitation based on Android ROM - application cannot start GPS by itself. Seems to be secure-issued thing. I do not want to discuss it - just found out that if I will root my Desire then Wavesecure is able to start GPS tracking based on my SMS.
This is very important for me as I find this feature "a must" if phone is stolen.
I do not want to change anything in my ROM, do not want to flash new roms - just need root for Wavesecure.
And here is my major question - if done with some of tutorials:
- will I be able to run smooth still my old HTC rom without any problems, data loss etc? So will it just have root feature and nothing changed?
- if HTC releases new firmware update - can I install it from HTC or I will have to skip?
- if I install HTC release - will I have to root again?
1) rooting with the Stock image is fine, and you will be able to create backups of your phone in the future (which is always helpful)
2) Yes you can install them but you loose your rootedness and as such use of wavesecure
3) as above and yes, but you dont have to stick with the HTC ROM's, the cooked ROMs on here are way more fun
Thanks!
Is there any good guide for rooting only with 0.8 bootloader? All I found is rooting+flashing and I would like to avoid flash.
Wants only to add root feature, do not change ROM and last but not least - do not loose any settings/data...
sorry but in order to root your phone you have to flash a new rom
you are currently using a htc official unrooted rom
you need to install a htc rooted rom (this is just the htc official rom (yours) with root features)
this will clear the data off your phone, however if you have enabled the default backup feature of the phone most of this will be backed up and restored, you can even download 3rd party software such as titanium backup and mybackup pro from the market
Thanks for the info.
So I think I will wait for official 2.2 ROM and then I'll flash. Should be in few days/weeks now as already got 2.1-update1 installed via HTC.
Indeed, i was running that 2 days ago and 2.2 will eventually drop, just give it a week or so after and the Cooked ROMS should be up to scratch
Hey all,
I've been doing some research, trying to customize my EVO. I like the stock UI that comes with HTC Sense, but I want something a little cleaner/simpler (read "white/clear"). I've experimented Apps like CrazyHome and Open Home, but I want to be able to use the HTC widgets.
My EVO came stock with Froyo 2.2, and I understand that you cannot root this version of Android yet. I was wondering if I needed to root the phone before I could install some themes from the Themes & Apps section of the forum, or if I could do it on the stock firmware.
With the mention of ROMs and the like, I assumed that I would have to wait until a working root method for 2.2 OTA comes out, but I just want to make sure.
Also, if I am completely off with my customization methods, please let me know. This is my first Android phone, I'm still trying to get my bearings.
Thanks.
Yep, unfortunately you have to have root access to mount your partitions as read/write to change anything. Don't worry though, root should be coming soon
So I justed rooted my phone and the first thing I wanted to try is the Wireless Tether app. It seems that I'm able to get my laptop connected to the wireless but no internet connection. Looks like I might need the Netfilter-enabled kernel to make this work. If so anyone of you know how to get this enabled or install? I know it will work with a custom ROM but I like the stock Sense ROM and I'm still waiting on the official Fresh 3.2 release. So in the mean time it would be great to get it to work on a stock rooted 2.2 ROM.
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So I justed rooted my phone and the first thing I wanted to try is the Wireless Tether app. It seems that I'm able to get my laptop connected to the wireless but no internet connection. Looks like I might need the Netfilter-enabled kernel to make this work. If so anyone of you know how to get this enabled or install? I know it will work with a custom ROM but I like the stock Sense ROM and I'm still waiting on the official Fresh 3.2 release. So in the mean time it would be great to get it to work on a stock rooted 2.2 ROM.
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Install this and you should be good to go.
You are awesome, that apk did the trick. Uninstall the one I install from the market and install this one worked. Thanks a lot for you help.
Glad to help
Hi, I am Wondering what you mean by Stock Rooted 2.2 Rom. I have one of the First released Evo's. I have done a number of things to it. Right Now I am Running 1.47 with Full root (Unrevoked 4 ever s-off) I have Clock work Recovery. I am trying to get to 2.2. I sounded like I would be able to just revert Recovery and Flash the OTA to 2.2 then install the newest Wireless tether. That didn't work. It appears that super user wasn't working right so I uninstalled super user and Applied the newest version from the market.
I still can't get my phone upgraded. I tried flashing a rooted 2.2 but got stuck in an Endless reboot cycle.
I am just wondering what 2.2 Rom you used. I would like to keep my phone a stock as possible with the exception of being able to run wireless tether and my other root programs (autostarts, root explorer, titanium)
I just can't figure out what I am missing
Thanks,
I'm sure he's talking about the new root method for evo's that had the official 2.2 release installed. Once you go back to 2.1 and root they have you install a rooted version of stock 2.2 build with sense.
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THANKS!!!!!
You made me look in a Different Direction. I was able to Apply the Sprint OTA update Using Clockwork and before rebooting Apply the 22root.zip people have been using to root on the 2.2 phones to Upgrade (No Data Loss) my phone a completly stock Sprint Software with 2.2 rooted.
Just wanted to say thanks for posting the .apk! I was having the exact same problem as the OP, and this fixed it for me too! I wonder what's different about this apk vs. the one in the market?
Justin
Wifi
ckombo said:
Install this and you should be good to go.
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Thank you!!! I can connect my Playstation 3, PSP and Xbox 360 with it!!!
Turbo4V said:
Just wanted to say thanks for posting the .apk! I was having the exact same problem as the OP, and this fixed it for me too! I wonder what's different about this apk vs. the one in the market?
Justin
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It is a rebuild that they are testing for froyo. The one in the market is for eclair.
You can get all the experimental versions and information and updates here http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
As long as i install the file, it works awesome.
Do u install on phone or comp and how do u do it I used unrevoked 3.32 to root but wifi-teather needs netfilter enabled kernel what do I do?
Is it possible to unroot the stock 2.2 after doing unrEVOked 3.21?
And if I keep running a rooted stock 2.2, is it safe to install OTA?
I find myself stuck in a similar situation too. Can anyone answer his question (is it safe to install OTA updates on a rooted phone?)
No its not, but on the other hand the update is not that spectacular it's worth to unroot for it. Just be patient for a couple of days until it's integrated in the custom roms.
If you still want to unroot use a RUU, has been mention probably in half of the threads in Q&A.
Thanks a ton Mr.Ghost, you see I'm a complete n00b and I'm just starting to get my way through.
hilljd00 said:
I've just rooted by Desire, just getting my head around different roms, just wish there was a comparision list
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What is there to compare?
You choose either Sense/Non-sense..
A2SD+/Non A2SD+
The rest is just personal preference.
Try one, if you dont like it, wipe and apply another ROm.
what's the best app to save all settings before installing new ROM?
kmetek said:
what's the best app to save all settings before installing new ROM?
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Titanium Backup. A donate version is available (as well as a free version) in the market. It will backup:
Applications (+ associated data)
Home screen data (icons, locations of widgets - you will need to remove them and re-add them, wallpaper, etc.)
Misc. settings
Then you can restore the data (obviously...). It will ONLY work on rooted phones.
Been trying to temp root a few installed HTC desire HD with the new OTA 2.3.3 update but during the temp root process the icon goes yellow then it just sits on a black screen (with just the task bar up on top showing) for 20+ mins. and root does not happen.
I tried this while connected via usb (with the app installed visionary+ v14) with usb developer mode on or what ever it's called .. even tried re-starting and re-trying to no avail.. did they "patch" it in the latest update?
*edit fixed typo from 2.2.3 to 2.3.3 =P
You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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You need to downgrade first...
I don't know if this method is still working with Gingerbread, but it was with Froyo and the Visionary symptoms were the same...
Try following this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
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Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you look in the development section you will find several ROM's that are very close to stock such as LeeDroid and there's even a one GB ROM that is has been rooted and pretty much nothing added.
There's no reason for you not to downgrade as you can upgrade again with a near as damn it customised GB ROM.
Revolution HD is great
I never tried any other rom (yes I'm an Android noob !), but I don't feel like it, i'm happy with Revolution.
It's exactly like stock, only smoother with better battery life and root.
I hesitated a long time before I installed a custom ROM on my DHD, waiting was a waste of time. Custom ROM are WAY better (in my opinion). Just remember to reade a lot of topics before, in order to know where you're going, what kind of problems you could face, and how to solve them. There's a lot of stuff and it all looks hard to get at first, but in the end it's not that hard.
Good luck, have fun
(I apologize for any english mistakes I could have made)
neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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If you want your things backed up use Mybackup from the market. Also once you go down the rooting lane eventually you will install a custom ROM which is way better than stock. Try it for yourself and see the difference..
neijek said:
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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right now to get root for 2.3.3, u need to be downgrade first. anyway, in the dev corner, they have 2.3.3 stock but rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059563
that is for 2.3.3 but your thread title mention 2.2.3, so don't know its a typo or u still prefer running on Froyo
Current ROM
Install a current ROM
neijek said:
(ty for your reply)
Ugg, ya I figured if I downgraded I could.. but I would really like to keep this OTA update few things I liked about it and as the phone is pretty much new I want to keep it as close to stock as possible... no one heard of any new exploits/updates that could allow temp root on the new OTA yet?
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before updating to the gingerbread u first have to do radio s-off. other wise u r unable to get root on it. i have installed leaked version for my phn. i also didnt know that, struggle hard to find and solve problem to dwngrade my phn. did it successfully, now i m running my phn with gingerbread fully root with gingearbreak 1.20 version.
thanks for all these amazing and quick replies ... I used to own a htc polaris and i always used custom roms.. my main issue is this, this is a company phone (it's mine.. but if there are ever issues with it i have a full warranty (even if i break it). Thus i wanted to achieve a temproot, just to freeze bloatware but not leave any "permanent" marks on the phone which if sent in for warranty would void it.
Eventually i will toss custom roms on it for sure, but since it's only 2 weeks out of the box i'd rather save it like this, at least for the first year.. if only there was a easy way to just freeze all that "crap" and not mod it with s-off or what not then i'd be so happy..
Unless s-off and such can be reverted and i can then work my way back .. but the problem is.. if i break it, and can't then "re-eable" s-on and so on and they see it they will not pay for the "fix" they are assses about it here in italy..
one of the main reasons i switched was for SIP calling (got a new data plan) .. if i go ahead with s-off / custom rom and all.. can I revert back in case i ever need to send it in for repair or .. does it leave traces?
I had the very same issue on my Desire HD 2.3