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[Q] Unbranding unlocked Orange desire

Hi, I have a sim-unlocked Orange Desire (I don't use it on Orange) with a branded 2.1 firmware, and I'd like to unbrand it with 2.2 stock firmware. Will that remove the sim-unlock that I have now?
Tnx in advance.

It shouldn't. I got an orange branded Desire from ebay on saturday morning, which was also locked to orange. I sim-unlocked it and rooted, and then flashed LeeDroid. My phone is still sim-unlocked.
Obviously I can't tell you what happens when flashing official firmware via RUU, because I haven't done that, but when flashing a custom ROM the sim-unlock remains the same. Hope this helps

If it locks it you can re use the original unlock code to unlock the phone again. If you don't have it then ask the seller you bought the phone from as they may still have it on record.
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i unlocked orange branded locked desire this eve without any probs thanks god

I just can confirm this: I've got an orange.fr branded desire over ebay and it was unlocked. Flashing froyo on it and rooting it before went well. No problems at all.

Tnx guys, I'll try it and see how it goes.

[Q] Debranding Desire which is already on Froyo

I got my Desire from a regular shop, but i recently discovered it's branded (though simlock free). Usually branded phones are only distributed by the providers, that's why i assumed mine was unbranded since i got it separate without a subscription.
I already upgraded to Froyo and i'm now on version 2.10.161.2 and i'm wondering if it's possible to debrand my Desire with a goldcard to stock ROM RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe and after that upgrade to generic Froyo through OTA.
Also when you have debranded your Desire do you have to use the goldcard everytime there is a new OTA available?

I don't think you'll be able to debrand using that RUU, it'll refuse to install because it has a lower HBOOT version than the one installed on your phone. You could try using a Froyo RUU to debrand, e.g. RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe
I think that you do have to use the goldcard for every OTA update after debranding, but I'm not sure.

You can use my downgrade tool to debrand (which installs 1.21.405.2), or the latest froyo RUU.
And yes, goldcard is essential for all official updates on a phone that was originally branded.

Ok i have HBOOT-0.93.0001 don't know if that works when i try it with RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.exe?
It really blows though that you have to use the goldcard for each official update.
I'm now thinking of returning my Desire and demanding an unbranded one.

My Desire is also branded (which i didn't know when i was buying it) and after complaining to the seller he replied: why what's the difference? Works with any sim! Well, there is a huge difference for many well known reasons (ie branded software have logos here and there, OTA updates delay, after debranding needs goldcard etc). That's why branded phones are being sold cheaper on ebay.

Yes i would expect that happening on Ebay, but not in retail stores and not even cheaper but full price. Since in retail stores HTC is the one delivering those devices to the retail stores, so HTC is deliberately selling branded phones (they first made them simlock free though before shipping them)
So if i would have Orange as provider with my Vodafone branded Desire and Vodafone decides to put in their 360 crap again i would have that Vodafone crap on my Desire even though i don't have Vodafone as my provider.

HTC doesn't sell branded phones to be sold unbranded. If you buy a genuine sim free unlocked phone and not from a network, it will be unbranded.

Same story with me , and i successfully debrand 3 uk to generic , use gold card and search thread in rom section for downgrade tool which support new and old desire ..
Then ota upgrade to generic froyo
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Sinergie said:
Also when you have debranded your Desire do you have to use the goldcard everytime there is a new OTA available?
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YES ONE TIME GOLD CARD REQUIRED AFTER UPDATE USE ANY CARD
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teppic74 said:
HTC doesn't sell branded phones to be sold unbranded. If you buy a genuine sim free unlocked phone and not from a network, it will be unbranded.
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Sadly this is not true.. they do sell branded phones as unbranded. I bought mine genuine sim free unlocked and not from a network and it IS branded..
@newstar
Are you confirming that you need to use that goldcard with every OTA update after you debranded your Desire? Or are you saying that you only need to use it one time to debrand?
How would HTC know it was originally branded when receiving a new OTA update (by chance through IMEI or S/N)?

Sinergie said:
Sadly this is not true.. they do sell branded phones as unbranded. I bought mine genuine sim free unlocked and not from a network and it IS branded..
@newstar
Are you confirming that you need to use that goldcard with every OTA update after you debranded your Desire? Or are you saying that you only need to use it one time to debrand?
How would HTC know it was originally branded when receiving a new OTA update (by chance through IMEI or S/N)?
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You need to use the goldcard with every OTA update or else you are going to have random restarts, not working wifi and sd card slot.

So the OP knows, you have a Vodafone Desire, the x.xx.161.x denotes a Vodafone product code...If you use a gold card and the 2.10.405.2 RUU it will update to the same ROM (Vodafone removed all branding from it) but you'll be on the generic product code
You'd still need your gold card for all future updates as well, mind

The only thing i still don't get is why would you need the gold card for future updates when you're on the generic product code. You would think it's then the same as the ones that were originally unbranded.

Because the phones CID will still be the branded one, so the gold card is still needed to trick the updates

Ah ok and i guess you can't change the CID so that it is exactly like an unbranded Desire.

Any unbranded firmware that also unlocks phone?

I have a T-Mobile UK HTC Desire - phone is locked to T-Mobile and the operator logo shows upon boot.
Is it possible to both unbrand and unlock the phone by replacing the firmware with some kind of unbranded HTC Desire (UK?) firmware?
Thanks.
PS. I recently did this to my Samsung Galaxy S - followed online instructions to download unbranded equivalent firmware; it removed the operator logo and, though the phone wasn't SIM-locked seemed to rejig some original Vodafone settings so that I can now successfully send T-Mobile MMS.

No you cant, you will have to buy an unlock code..
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[Q] Do I need to SIM Unlock??

Hello All,
When I first got my desire back in April from Orange UK, I had the default Eclair build. I rooted and moved to a Froyo custom ROm and Radio and found I was locked out of my own network as the ROM was of course De-Branded. At the time I paid and got an unlock code.
I recently had to send my phone back for Warranty repair with HTC and they have returned it to me, once again with the current Orange ROM/Radio versions and having changed some inards, I now have a new IMEI number too. I have so far tried two unlock sites but both came back with a "sorry we don't have a code for that IMEI" and so I am very wary of putting another custom ROM on my device in case I get SIM locked out of my own network again.
My question is this:
I vaguely remember that the issue with Orange users being locked out of their own network when using the debranded froyo ROm's was due to changing the Radio (as we needed a 5.x.x.x radio when moving from ecalir to froyo). Since my current Radio is 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30, if I get a custom ROM without Radio and carry on using the one I have (already Froyo compatible) will I be ok or will I get simlocked again?
Many thanks in advance
David

Strange, I always thought ROM had nothing to do with your SIM lock... Maybe it depends on what phone you have because I have SIM unlocked my HTC magic after owning it a year long and then after that installed many different ROMs without being SIM locked again.
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You don't need to unlock anymore. Newer radios don't lock orange desires anymore.
I did the exact same thing as you, when I got my second orange desire I didn't need to unlock it.

mercianary said:
You don't need to unlock anymore. Newer radios don't lock orange desires anymore.
I did the exact same thing as you, when I got my second orange desire I didn't need to unlock it.
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Thanks mercinary, does this mean I can choose the radio update with the relevant custom ROM or should I keep the Radio on the device that is there currently?
David

shoemeistah said:
Strange, I always thought ROM had nothing to do with your SIM lock... Maybe it depends on what phone you have because I have SIM unlocked my HTC magic after owning it a year long and then after that installed many different ROMs without being SIM locked again.
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That's generally the case, but in the past flashing a non orange froyo radio on a locked orange desire would lock you out of all networks...including orange. It has not been an issue afaik since orange released froyo, all radios after this point did not lock orange phones.
I wish we knew more about this bug because if the radio can manipulate the phones lock state maybe a custom radio can be made to unlock your phone...that's a big maybe though, and I don't know what I'm talking about

beartiger said:
Thanks mercinary, does this mean I can choose the radio update with the relevant custom ROM or should I keep the Radio on the device that is there currently?
David
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Its up to you. If you've got froyo now the radio will work fine with any rom. I've never had any trouble with my new orange desire, flashed loads of radios.

I think i would have a word with HTC, your phone was unlocked when you sent it to HTC for repair, so it should be unlocked on return to you, even if they have changed the mainboard.

RUU Help

Need to send my phone back as the screen is cracked and I get a replacement.
However I'm unsure what RUU to get. I got the phone off vodafone. However there is no branding on the phone and when I startup there is no vodafone logo. So while I think the phone is unbranded, the only RUU i can find that matches my baseband and software version is a vodafone one.
Should I jsut try to use the vodafone RUU and does it require a gold card?

You had a vodafone rom before you rooted it? Then you have to install the Vodafone ruu (from your country).
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-desire/

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You had a vodafone rom before you rooted it? Then you have to install the Vodafone ruu (from your country).
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-desire/
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That is not necessarily true. Check here: http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo.
If it's not there flash a generic one. Mine was network locked but not branded.

Just a quick question before you go to all the trouble..
Most carriers will not provide a warranty replacement for phones with physical damage like cracked screen.. might wana check that first
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