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The MOST annoying thing about WM6?

For me it would be the fact that it STILL has
the same greyish, blocky scrollbars as Windows 3.1 had....
You'd imagine they would have revamped those by now...

That is a minor quibble. Personally I do not see anything wrong with WM6... yet.
Most of us here are still happy that at least we are getting WM6
If anything I had a bit of quibble with Opera and its interaction with WM5\WM6 but then again, that is a software issue.

Yeah, if that's all you have to complain about in WM6, I think you're LOOKING for things to complain about.
Like the "Error Syncronizing" problem in Outlook, that no one but me seems to have seen; or the Calendar problem where Month is always the default view, no matter what's chosen in Options... These are legit. problems, not just complaints.

richy240 said:
Y; or the Calendar problem where Month is always the default view, no matter what's chosen in Options... These are legit. problems, not just complaints.
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I am running LVSW Edition 2007-03-25 and do not have this problem with calendar, maybe it is your version.
Ron

Try UIQ for a month, you`ll hate PPC
WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.

hm, the most annoying thing you say.
yeah , can think of 1 - a minor issue yet very annoying.
the busy signal comes out of the loudspeaker (as it did in wm5) !
i hate it. yeah of course you can delete the signal or change ir to a very quiet one, yet ...

elivne said:
WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.
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I do use UIQ3 on my M600, and I'm not impressed in the least. It has it's own set of problems... Stability for one. It's better than it was, but it still isn't great.
As for stolen features, that's crap... name one feature WM6 stole from UIQ. I beg you...

I beg to differ
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I do use UIQ3 on my M600, and I'm not impressed in the least. It has it's own set of problems... Stability for one. It's better than it was, but it still isn't great.
As for stolen features, that's crap... name one feature WM6 stole from UIQ. I beg you...
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you are using UIQ3 - don't know that OS yet.
stolen features?
what about the new "week view" of calender? it`s entire functionality is copied from UIQ 2.1, what about the softkeys finally they copied the ability to navigate the device features?
stability, I used a p900 - for 2 years - 3!! HR(and I was to BLAME)
PPC? - cant count any more, a buggy program can crash your device until the next HR.
most of WM6 design targets declared where for a better use:
stability
speed
usability

Hmm, I had a P900 and the P910 (still use it from time to time) My friend has the Sony P990 (UIQ3). If you want to see problems with UIQ3 use a P990, admittedly most of it is hardware related but even on the M600 you will find problems.
The only way you can compare these two is to only run them on default software and never install 3rd party apps!! I have run 3rd party apps on my P900/P910 and had to do many soft resets etc even with popular apps (Sman etc)
I am so glad that I moved from UIQ(X) to WM(X) as just the increase in productivity software available to me has made it worth it alone! BTW my M3100 running the latest variant of WM6 is rock solid.
Oh & haven't you heard the expression there's nothing new under the sun. Everybody 'steals' from everybody else.

elivne said:
WM6 has a lot to learn, as I see it on WM6 we have many stolen UIQ features.
Microsoft still has a lot to learn, a WM6 device just wont work as a normal phone and switch to "PDA Mode" when you need it.
UIQ has done it, you have a perfectly working phone with access to all the main features, with a flip of a switch you can transfer yourself to a fully featured PDA.
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Well I havent taken the plunge to WM6 yet, still on WM5, but yes... having migrated from UIQ on several previous phones, I find WM to be an abomination of undocumented, overcompicated and non-integrated bloatware.
The saving features, however, are that it's the only OS I can get on such great hardware (Hermes), and there is such a massive user base that like Windows for PCs, there is loads of great software and support from forums like this.

and here i thought the most annoying thing was that the soft buttons were reversed on the bubble breaker game

weinson said:
and here i thought the most annoying thing was that the soft buttons were reversed on the bubble breaker game
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The real most annoying feature - the thing just does not work. Period. It's a glorified organizer. It's a toy for geeks like us. It's anything but the reliable tool you can depend on. Radio, messaging, alarms / reminders - they all have [not] mind and schedules of their own ... actually M$ implanted brain farts

moisha said:
The real most annoying feature - the thing just does not work. Period. It's a glorified organizer. It's a toy for geeks like us. It's anything but the reliable tool you can depend on. Radio, messaging, alarms / reminders - they all have [not] mind and schedules of their own ... actually M$ implanted brain farts
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SSSHHH! You were not supposed to reveal that information!
But it is true... The look on the face of my GF when I have to restart my phone before I can make a call or when everything freezes when adding an appointment....
On my original post: the scrollbars might be a minor thing but it is something I see almost everytime I use this machine.

although I have not used UIQ for a while last one was uiq 2.1 i think or was it 3?
It was a very good os and stable.
but doesnt look as pretty as windows mobile.
Although its better programed and runs better on lower speed processors,
reminds me of the linux v windows situation.
pros and cons to both.
I like windows its pleasing to the eye

I'm sure this can be fixed, but i've search and haven't found a solution yet, so here goes, the most annoying thing about WM6 for is:
In WM5 (standard T-Mobile UK rom) i had a link in Start Menu for "Running Programs" this took me straight to Start->Settings->System->Memory->Running Programs, i would like to create a link on my WM6 that takes me straight here too, but i dont know how?

the thing I hate so far is they (in WM6) still dont allow you to quickley dial a meeting number.... like I used to do in a blackberry...... thats the only thing I find really annoying...
I sould be able to choose a reminder and if there is a number value in there I should be able to choose it to dail.....

one fo my biggest complaints.
in s60 phones when I was sent a concatenated message it would display as one contigious message.
in Wm5/Wm6 a concatenated message is displayed as several messages and sometimes they come in out of order which is really annoying.
if anyone knows of a fix for this short of using an alternate messaging app please let me know.

My biggest issue is that I cannot connect to my office VPN using Internet sharing, worked perfectly in WM5 as a wireless modem, normal browsing is ok.
Malcolm

Most annoying thing...
(1) Boot time is incredibly slow, at last count 40 seconds from reset to ability to make a call
(2) I still cannot send text messages to 'groups' - major gripe from WM5 followed through
(3) Text Messaging - New has been replaced by Delete as the initial text message screen (possibly a setting I havent found yet)
Major speed advantage so far though...

nbedford said:
I'm sure this can be fixed, but i've search and haven't found a solution yet, so here goes, the most annoying thing about WM6 for is:
In WM5 (standard T-Mobile UK rom) i had a link in Start Menu for "Running Programs" this took me straight to Start->Settings->System->Memory->Running Programs, i would like to create a link on my WM6 that takes me straight here too, but i dont know how?
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That actually wasn't WM5 but an addition by T-Mobile.
You could use X-button to close programmes completely instead of making them run in the background. That way you don't even have to go into 'running programmes'.

Anyone can post the classic WM5 ringtones?

I just installed kin0kin's ROM and was shocked to see that there are only 5 tones to chose from, none of which I prefer to use in a professional environment. I was looking for the classic ring1, ring2, ring3, etc. that I'd prefer to use but can't find them anywhere. If anyone could extract those maybe from WM5 and post it up here, it would be much appreciated.

Yes and nicer ring tones from WM6 will also be appreciated. Because in the cooked ROM on majority of the cases only 3 ringtones are noticed like Ring-Standard, Ring-Vision and Ring-Windows Mobile. Please post here the original ROM ringtones. It will be much more appreciated.

Heres all the rings that are on a standard wm5 device

Thanks a lot, Tarka

More ringtones ... 1 of 3
This archive is some ringtones from Microsoft's Mobile site, but they're just ringtones from Microsoft Games (e.g., Halo3).
I hope you enjoy!

TaRkA, you are the best! Thanks a million!
Pischk, few days ago I tried those Halo 3, etc. rigtones from M$ as well and although they are quite good, couldn't use them in a professional environment. But maybe others will have use for them...

More ringtones ... 2 of 3
These are some ringtones that I've collected from Microsoft's Windows Mobile site (they're actually free). They change these files from time to time, so some of these are no longer available (except for here on XDA ).
Enjoy!

More Ringtones ... 3 a of 3
And last but not least, some more ringtones that I've collected from Microsoft's Windows Mobile site (they're actually free). Again, they change these files from time to time, so some of these are no longer available (except for here on XDA ).
Enjoy!
NOTE: I had to split the last ZIP file into 2, because it appears the limit is 3 MB for a ZIP file and not 8 mb. confused

More Ringtones ... 3 b of 3
And last but not least, some more ringtones that I've collected from Microsoft's Windows Mobile site (they're actually free). Again, they change these files from time to time, so some of these are no longer available (except for here on XDA ).
Enjoy!
NOTE: I had to split the last ZIP file into 2, because it appears the limit is 3 MB for a ZIP file and not 8 mb. confused

solidus2 said:
TaRkA, you are the best! Thanks a million!
Pischk, few days ago I tried those Halo 3, etc. rigtones from M$ as well and although they are quite good, couldn't use them in a professional environment. But maybe others will have use for them...
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Well ... I'm hoping you can use some of these other ringtones in a professional environment. Personally, I'm using customized Ringtones for my contacts and then "Ring-FlamencoFire.wma" as my ring for everyone else.
Enjoy!

If you want the notification sounds ive uploaded them here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1854314&posted=1#post1854314

sweet!! Now my life is complete

anyone have ringtone for new email but speaking

BPM Counter

Hello @all,
is there any easy and free "BPM-Counter" in the net?
It just should show the BPM based on tapping on the screen the breat of music you´re listing. Functions should be "start, stop, reset", only.
I wasn´t able to find an actual for WM (but some for iPhone )
I´m remembering one for my old SE P800 (Symbian).
Does anyone knows a little program for WM (or Java, running on X1)?
Maybe one you amazing developers ist able to create one?
Many musicians will be very thankful, i think.
Thx in advance

Vito Metronome can do that. Its old but functioning at as mentioned by the name it is also a metronome. Skinnable and displays italian terms of tempo (allegro, adagio, presto, largo etc). It has individual volume slider for the click loudness. Supports control over the time signature to position the downbeat. I'd personally LOVE a score editor for ppc... like Sibelius Mobile

Thanks.
There are a lot "pure" metronoms in the net.
Does Vito Metronome is able to get the BPM by tapping the screen?
Unfortutely it is not for free.
What kind of sw is Sibelius?

Vito metronome supports tapping indeed. Sibelius is my favourite score editor. And I love portability. Since getting my PPC I feel like laptop is as portable as desktop

I use k-metronome, which has a lot of great features. It isn't free, but I use it a lot, and have enjoyed all of the features. It has the tap-in-beat feature, as well as the options for various types of rhythms and poly/feels.
Another music program I use is phontuner. I use it for tuning my 12-string guitar, as well as to help vocalists see if they are singing in tune. It can be set for tuning various types of stringed instruments.
I've never tried Sibelius - I'll have to look into it!

WM 6.5 AudioPara.csv -- need an original one

Hi all, here's the story:
I installed a new ROM for the Titan (3.08.66.1) with WM6.5 (5.2.21501 build 21501.5.0.70). Everything works fantastically -- it's fast, lots of RAM all that.
The audio, however, was pretty low, so I grabbed an archived copy of AudioPara.csv and ftped it over to the /windows on my phone using MyMobiler -- foolishly overwriting the one in there instead of renaming it like an intelligent person. Now, I have no audio whatsoever in any application or phone conversation.
I installed an old version of NueAudio (not on the nuerom webpage anymore, probably should have taken the hint) and that didn't help either.
Any thoughts on what I should do next? I don't want to hard reset (I just got everything exactly how I liked it!).

where to start

i have a new touch pro 2 coming tomorrow
im a windows mobile virgin never used it before
so where do i start with software,
what must haves should i put on it, and what hacks (if any should i do )
want sat nav if possible, watch movies, music etc
thanks for any advice

In terms of nav, I've used TomTom 6 and 7 on winmo, both are really good. Copilot Live is also highly rated, so I'd go for one of them - would have to be TomTom 6 on the TP2 though since you can't buy TT7, only get it already installed on some devices.
Have a look at the SPB website - the do some great software for winmo phones (SPB Traveller, SPB Weather, SPB Time, but probably best of all SPB Mobile Shell 3 - you'll see it called MS3 a lot on here).
Personally I also use PocketInformant for calendar, PIM type stuff, that's made by WebIS. Handango is a good site for finding tons of winmo apps etc... it's basically just a case of go browsing thos kinds of shops and see if they have stuff that fits your needs (or more likely just your wants )
In terms of movies and music, it will come with built in players which should do the job well. You can get DivX player for winmo which could be useful (can't remember if the inbuilt one will play divx).
Good luck, it's a whole new world, and if you're already on here then you'll be hooked to this place as it's a total gold mine!

thanks but what i also men is where to start with custom roms, install stuff from cab
its all over my head is there an idiots guide i can start reading up on stuff

Custom ROMs are amazing, and if you want one, this is the place to look. However, this device is still so new that there are no custom ROMs as of yet. The brilliant minds behind this place still need to make HardSPL for this device, and test it too. We can't flash custom ROMs until that's done. If you're curious about HardSPL and what its purpose is, I suggest seeking further information in the wiki.
Anyways, once they've made HardSPL, I'm sure someone will write a "Flashing your first Rhodium ROM for noobs" guide in the Rhodium ROM Development forum. And believe me when I say that with a little know-how, some adrenaline, and a good guide, anyone can flash a custom ROM.
And if you're curious about Windows Mobile, simply try playing around with it for a while. It has a bit of a learning curve, but I've never met anybody who couldn't figure it out eventually. The wiki here at XDA also helps.
Or, if you'd rather read a book, there is helpful book called "How to do everything with Windows Mobile", or something like that. It doesn't cover fun stuff like linux, bootloaders, or custom ROMs though. I'm not sure if it's available where you live, but I bought that book a week or two before I received my Kaiser, and although a bit outdated, it helped me with the basics of WM. In actuality, you probably don't need the book, but it sure can help sometimes.
Oh, and cab files are probably the simplest aspect of WM. You put the .cab on your device, open file explorer, find it, and tap on it. It walks you through a simple procedure, and then you're done! I hope that pretty much answers your questions,
Dave

I second the TomTom 6 vote. Having used several GPS programs, I find it user friendly. Not sure what else to say about that really!
I too use Pocket Informant for PIM. It's better than the standard software, no idea how it compares as I got it as a freebie from mobihand.com. It seems powerful, again easy to use, and worth purchasing.
Don't think the included Pocket version of Media Player can handle DivX or .avi files. Go for Core Player. I use an old version that seems good. Most here rate it.
If HTC have included their Audio Manager (it was included as standard on my TyTnII), stick with that for music. It's pretty good and can be used one handed. Again better than the standard MS one, but I'm not convinced its worth paying for an MP3 player app.
Suggestion, if you are a WinMo virgin, stick with the stock ROM etc for a while and just learn the device / OS. I had an old WM5 mobile (HTC Universal) that I flashed with a custom ROM to upgrade it to WM6, simply because there were features missing in WM5. I've now had my TyTnII for nearly 18 months running the stock operators ROM (o2 UK, WM6) and have been perfectly happy with it. I don't see the point of flashing the device "just for the hell of it", when there is a chance of turning it into a £500 brick. That's just me, I sibscribe to the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" way of life.
Can't wait til I can get one!