1. Do you need a goldcard to root? i read somewhere that you do not need to is this true? if it is for the root guide for windows do you just copy the files to the memory card?
2. anyone know a good solution to back up your phone completely before root?
1. You only need a GoldCard if your phone is branded. A GoldCard is a special SD card which, when inserted into your device, allows you to flash RUU files with a different CID to your own device. For example, if you own a T-Mobile branded device, this will allow you to flash a generic ROM. Therefore, a GoldCard is only necessary if your device is an operator supplied device.
2. You can use MyBackup Pro version to backup all your apps and data to the sd card.
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Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
manisa236 said:
Guys,
I read this forum every single day and learned a great deal. I've got a good idea about rooting, flashing etc, but have couple of Yes/No questions, so please bear with me.
I have a T-Mobile NL desire, branded and locked, and my questions are:
1. Can I make 4 GB stock SD card currently I use a Goldcard? It came preinstalled with the phone and I haven't even taken it out. Would I lose any data?
2. Can Goldcard and APP2SD card be the same? I know APP2SD require partitioning. Does it also require formatting? If I understand correctly Goldcard only changes some "internal sectors" of the SD card, so I thought that might be possible?
3. I see a lot of recovery methods on the development forum (Clockwork, AM recovery, Fake-flash, unrevoked etc). Some require USB connection some dont. Which one at the moment do you think is the best to root your device and install APP2SD?
4. As I understand Nandroid does a full ROM backup while Titanium backs up your apps and settings. Can I backup my current T-Mobile ROM with Nandroid before rooting, and restore it later if needed?
Many thanks in advance, this is a great community to learn and share!
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1. The stock card will be fine, and I think you will lose everything on it. Never needed on my self so I'm not 100% on that. Just copy everything from SD to your PC.
2. Not sure about the gold card bits, but If you partition your SD card it will delete all data on it.
3. Use fake flash or unrevoked after you have completed step 1. The old usb method leaves you at risk of semi bricking the phone.
4. You only have access to the nandroid option after the rooting process. So you can't backup your current rom.
A2SD will format your card, so I recommend having two cards - original 4 gig card which will be used as goldcard, and other (preferably bigger) card which you will use everyday.
After you wipe everything and flash new rom with gold card inside (according to instructions), you will have to turn off your phone, change gold card with another one, enter hboot, recovery and partition new card before rebooting.
There are two reasons why I would recommend recovery with pushfiles_windows.zip (which you can find here: http://nimbu.amorvi.com/2010/05/how-to-root-your-htc-desire/ ) instead of fake flash:
- fake flash desn't have power off/turn off option which pushfiles has, I had to turn phone off with power button, and I wasn't sure if I turned it off or put it to sleep before pulling battery out... too much stress
- when I exchanged gold card with new one, I wasn't sure will I be able to enter recovery with fake flash on it, so I used old school pushfiles with USB
Beware that free and full Titanium Backup are two different things: full is a great backup tool that will restore everything like it was after first reboot, and I wouldn't recommend free version to anyone
I attempted to manually update to Froyo on a rooted (came to me that way) HTC Desire.
I used the manual method described at geekword.net (google for it, I can't post links)
Unfortunately, I didn't know I was meant to use a gold card for the update.
So what I ended up with is a failed Froyo update, after the post-update reboot, the progress count will never get to 100%, as the phone goes into a reboot loop.
This wouldn't be an issue if I could reattempt the update with a gold card - unfortunately, in its current state the phone can't even see the sd card for whatever reason - the card isn't corrupt as I can continue to run the update.zip file from it - not that it helps.
With the phone connected to the PC, I don't have option to mount as disk drive. I can get the CID using Klutsh's Gold Card tool, but because I can't mount the phone, I can't copy the gold card image over.
Is there anyway to get the image over to the sd card and complete the gold card creation without going via the phone?
I dont really know for sure what the answer is to your problem mate but in the hope of getting this thread started I would be looking to download the original branded ROM and restore it through the bootloader menu so that you can start over. This may or may not work but its what I would be researching first.
When i made my gold card, i had the MicroSD in the phone to get the CID, but then i wrote the image to it using a MircoSD-to-SD adapter, just using the built in SD card reader on my laptop. Hope this helps.
JP
jamesmcuk > I tried a stock Telstra rom (this is an Aus phone) found online, it came back with something along the lines of 'wrong bootloader version'. I have a feeling that bootloader for the phone was upgraded either during the first root (by the previous owner) or upgraded when I updated to Froyo.
Are there any official rollback methods for failed Froyo updates?
JPDyno > Could you please outline the procedure used to copy the image over to the micro SD? I have a goldcard.img file from the procedure that I've performed to date. Do I copy the img file over using a imageburner? Do I need to partition the sd card or anything? Kinda lost as to the steps since I thought the Klutsh tool would take care of the copying for me - but it needed connection to the phone.
Thank you both for your replies, hopefully I don't have a fancy brick on my hands
Your phone should have come with a MicroSD card adapter, which looks like a normal sized SD Card, with a slot at the back to insert your microSD into. So you take out your MicroSD card from the phone, slide it into the small slot on the adapter, and slide the adapter into your SD Card reader slot on your laptop/desktop. If you dont have an SD Card reader slot you'll need to get a USB SD or microSD card reader. Once you plug it in it'll automatically detect the card as a disk drive in My Computer. Then you can follow the steps in the Goldcard Guide (install and run the Hex Editor...open the disk drive and the img in the Hex editor and copy stuff over...yada yada...)
Just out of interest does it still do a constant reboot if you remove either or both the SIM and the SD Card.
Also I found this guide for restoring the Nexus 1 which being so similar should contain some good info although you will need to find the ROM for the desire rather than the ones they post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614850
Yay, got it working!
Thanks for the prompt replies guys.
I followed the suggestions here (in using the sd card reader on my laptop), and used the steps starting with HxD from:
android.modaco.com/content/general-discussion/305672/creating-a-goldcard
I managed to get a goldcard, and successfully updated to froyo!
p.s. the phone reboots even without a sim card - never tried without the sd card though - I needed it since the update.zip was from the sd.
Now onto exploring Froyo!
For all of those still wishing to make a goldcard sans phone, you can also find it here
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
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At first I could not get the CID as well. The problem was, that I was in Fastboot mode. After changing into Recovery mode, I was able to use "adb shell" and then cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid to get my CID.
So now you can start to make your own Goldcard.
My HTC Desire came with Vodafone Android 2.1 and I wanted to apply a generic HTC ROM so I went through the manual process of creating a goldcard on a spare 1GB SD Card. However, I have since discovered that you need to have the Goldcard inserted whenever you want to apply any OTA updates - I had one minor update which broke WiFi when I applied it without the Goldcard inserted, and the phone went into a reboot loop when I tried to apply 2.2 without the Goldcard inserted. Now, rather than keep switching between the 4GB SD card I have and the 1GB Goldcard whenever an OTA update is available, I would like to turn my 4Gb card into a Gold card.
However....
I have noticed the CID is different now that I am running 2.2 compared to when i originally created it when I was running 2.1.
Q1) Is it normal for the CID to change?
Q2) Is my old 1GB GoldCard no longer useful for any 2.2 hotfixes and updates from here on?
Q3) Will the new Goldcard work even though its created with a new CID?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
The CID # comes from your SD card - different SD cards have different CIDs.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
The CID # comes from your SD card - different SD cards have different CIDs.
Regards,
Dave
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CID stands for carrier ID, its there to denote the diffrence between branded phones and factory unlocked phones what exactly does it have to do with a sd card im confused lol
There are two kinds of CID. There is the CID on your phone, which determines which brand of phone you have - this is irrelevant here. Then there is the CID on your sdcard, this is the card's serial number, and this is what you use to create a goldcard.
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There are two kinds of CID. There is the CID on your phone, which determines which brand of phone you have - this is irrelevant here. Then there is the CID on your sdcard, this is the card's serial number, and this is what you use to create a goldcard.
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Indeed! We should more properly refer to the SD card CID, as the CID Register - where CID is the "Card ID".
It is quite different from the CID on the phone, which is the Carrier ID responsible for locking your ROM (note, not SIM) to a particular carrier.
Of course, it's not helped that in order to bypass the phone CID, you need to create a gold card which involves manipulating the SD card CID!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Indeed! We should more properly refer to the SD card CID, as the CID Register - where CID is the "Card ID".
It is quite different from the CID on the phone, which is the Carrier ID responsible for locking your ROM (note, not SIM) to a particular carrier.
Of course, it's not helped that in order to bypass the phone CID, you need to create a gold card which involves manipulating the SD card CID!
Regards,
Dave
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im not confused anymore thanks lol
I have a Desire running froyo which has been debranded and i have also invoked apps to sd using adb method.
Hopefully, in the near future, we may get another firmware update so, in readyness for this i have a few questions that i need answering.
To upgrade firmware, i need to insert my goldcard which is a different card to the one i use reguarly in my phone. Is there any way i can maintain all of my applications after upgrade of firmware ie. Insert goldcard, upgrade return original goldcard containing app data and after having done this, maintain my adb push status and original applications.
I may be wrong (bit of a noob!) but i don't think this is straightforward as apps are split between sd and phone storage.
Please advise!
First thing to do is make your everyday card into your gold card as this sorts out having to faff about with changing cards...
OTA updates shouldn't remove apps/data so you should be fine
Hey, I want to install custom roms on my phone, therefore I need it to be rooted and S-offed, but to s-off it I need to downgrade it, but to downgrade it, I need to root it and what not.
So I decided "just" to root it via Gingerbreak.
It tells me to have a FAT32 formatted SD card. I have backuped all my relevant data, anything else can be deleted.
Can I just plug my DHD into my PC and format the SD Card with windows?
Will my phone work still?
Regards...
PS: My Android Version is 2.3.3, my HTC Sense version is 2.1, my kernel is 2.6.35.10, my software number is 2.50.405.2, if this is relevant (all stock)
I can't edit my post, that's why I'm double posting.