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Hi, will i be able to use the Three Simcard in the phone? it is a xda orbit. i am picking it up tonight and would like to know. thanks
From what I can remember, the answer is No, 3 monitor the imei's of handsets connecting to their network.
I remember this being discussed a couple of years ago.
It may work for a few weeks/months but you may receive a phonecall requesting your sim to be put in one of their handsets
3 is a 3G network which drops down to 2.5G when 3G is not available. As the Orbit is not a 3G capable phone I think it unlikely that a 3 sim will work in the Orbit.
Hi! I have the same problem con 3 italian sim. Htc p3300 didn't never work!!!
Have I a possibility that it works by some manner?
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3 is a 3G network which drops down to 2.5G when 3G is not available. As the Orbit is not a 3G capable phone I think it unlikely that a 3 sim will work in the Orbit.
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Old thread bump.
I have just tried a 3 UK sim in an Orbit - and I was able to make and receive voice calls without changing any settings. But as other posters have said, 3 take a dim view of people using their sims in non-3 branded handsets and may cut off your sim without warning.
Three network SIMs not working but O2 & Vodaphone SIMS ok-HELP! I'm really confused
Cannot find a solution either searching the forums or via Google so perhaps someone can help by answering this post:
Got an XDA Orbit that works fine when I insert either an O2 sim or a vodaphone sim (so the phone appears not to be locked) but not when I use a 3 (three) sim. When I insert a 3 (three) sim I get the message "Invalid or missing SIM card". I have 2x three sims and both do the same thing. However both the 3 (three) sims work fine in my XDA exec and Sony Ericson K610i so there appears to be no fault with the sim. So if the SIM appears to work and the phone appears to be unlocked what else is there?
I have considered upgrading the ROM but there seem to be a lot of people either turning this phone into a brick or breaking wifi (needed) while updating the ROM on the Orbit. If someone can point me to a rom that works without doing either that might be a solution.
Details of ROM XDA Orbit is running:
ROM version: 1.25.206.2 WWE
ROM date: 10/4/06
Radio version: 02.67.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.28
ExtROM version: 1.25.206.101
Any thoughts or idea's welcome
PS. I have also tried inserting a little paper between the battery & the SIM as suggested in some of the forum posts which didn't work.
3 is a 3g network only, the Artemis is not a 3g phone.
Older 3 USIMS used to work, but when 3 noticed you were constantly roaming onto O2 (who provide 3 with their backup network, at a cost to 3) they blocked those SIMS. Newer ones simply don't work at all in 2.5g phones.
Upgrading the ROM would make no difference, you would need to change the handset to a different model to use the 3 network, but then frankly I never understand why anyone would want to.
i thought the same thing as the post above...but what made me wonder is why the 3 sim cards are working inthe xda 2s which is not a 3g phone.
maybe its not the 3 sim cards that are at fault here after....as hard as that is to belive
hey guys,
three sim cards will not function at all unless the phone is 3g enabled.
Remi
Even if the phone was 3g, 3 used to block IMEIs of phones not sold by them. Nice. Don't know if they still do that though.
update
arielc - my error, sim does not work in XDA2 (tested again), 3rd phone tested was a Sony K610i -> have updated initial post to remove error.
LargePig - The XDA Exec I have was bought from O2 and does work 100% (so far).
Gajet - I think you are right. Is there any way for the phone to fake to the sim that it is a 3G phone? I realise this is probably grasping at straws but thought I should ask just in case.
Assuming it is impossible to get the 3 SIMs to work any idea on what these are worth? I'm depressed askign this as it is a realy nice phone & I would prefer to keep it.
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Gajet - I think you are right. Is there any way for the phone to fake to the sim that it is a 3G phone? I realise this is probably grasping at straws but thought I should ask just in case.
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No the lack of function occurs when the SIM tries to register on the network I believe, so it instantly knows it can't register on the UMTS (3g) network, and because it hasn't tried it is blocked from registering on the GSM (2.5g) network.
Any 3g enabled phone should work, and there are 3g HTC pocket PC devices such as the Universal etc. but they all tend to be bulkier.
3 has to stop this behaviour because they have no GSM backup of their own and therefore they pay O2 to provide their backup, this means they make little (if any) money on those calls.
Personally I don't think 3 are as cheap compared to the other networks as they used to be, the other networks have had to try and attract customers back. You could get a SIM from the other networks for a fiver at the most. My personal recomendation at the moment is a T-Mobile Flext and Web & Walk Tariff.
As for the value of the 3 USIMS, Have a look on Ebay at what they are going for, they do have a sale value.
this is a problem ive been trying to resolve with tmobile, to no avail.
basically the data network only seems to use gprs and not 3g or hsdpa, despite me being in an hsdpa area. my kaiser with another tmobile contract sim gets hsdpa speeds fine, as does the tp2 when its got the old sim in, but this new sim doesnt seem to allow it. it wont be a handset problem and its not a coverage problem, its as if its been disabled by tmobile. for the record both the contracts are identical. (the kaiser one has a few days left in it)
ive called and emailed tmobile frequently over the last week, but they dont seem to understand the problem and cant help. noone seems to have heard of hsdpa and the last phone call lasted over an hour, with the ending result being 'we dont know'
im aware that they might have to 'flick a switch' to enable it on my data plan, but cant quite communicate with them this.
anyone got any tips? could their be a particular number/email address i could use?
They probably indeed have to flick a switch. If all else fails, just request a new SIM from them saying this one broke or something.
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this is a problem ive been trying to resolve with tmobile, to no avail.
basically the data network only seems to use gprs and not 3g or hsdpa, despite me being in an hsdpa area. my kaiser with another tmobile contract sim gets hsdpa speeds fine, as does the tp2 when its got the old sim in, but this new sim doesnt seem to allow it. it wont be a handset problem and its not a coverage problem, its as if its been disabled by tmobile. for the record both the contracts are identical. (the kaiser one has a few days left in it)
ive called and emailed tmobile frequently over the last week, but they dont seem to understand the problem and cant help. noone seems to have heard of hsdpa and the last phone call lasted over an hour, with the ending result being 'we dont know'
im aware that they might have to 'flick a switch' to enable it on my data plan, but cant quite communicate with them this.
anyone got any tips? could their be a particular number/email address i could use?
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I have the same problem but on Orange Romania. The THC is unlocked and on the TytnII the SIM has worked perfectly but in the new TP2 no HSDPA. With another SIM from Vodafone the HSDPA is working.
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I have the same problem but on Orange Romania. The THC is unlocked and on the TytnII the SIM has worked perfectly but in the new TP2 no HSDPA. With another SIM from Vodafone the HSDPA is working.
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You're not the only one facing this issue i see! I have had a Tmobile contract for years on the TytnII and ALWAYS had the HSDPA working fine. I got the Vodafone touch pro 2 and now the best i get is GPRS or 3G. trying the settings>all setting> advanced tab> did not help either. I guess T-mobile can enable or disable this at will especially if they can detect the device type is not a Tmobile one...
Sorry for the lame question but how do I know what my connection is? My icon with the bars changes to "3G" when I use data but I noticed a friend's phone shows "H" instead. I already have enabled HSDPA in the connection settings but still get 3G everywhere and never seen H on my phone so far.
Been having problems with my Omnia7 since beginning of the year and was hoping Mango with firmware would fix these issues.
This is how it turned out after update...
I can't upload anything to SkyDrive on 3G (I get "The Windows Live ID Service is unavailable at the moment"), if I turn on WiFi it works instantly so there is nothing wrong with my account.
I usually can't download apps from marketplace on 3G, i get "The Windows Live ID Service is unavailable at the moment", if I turn on WiFi it works instantly.
I usually can't post twitts to twitter, I get some connection error. Not sure if that works over WiFi.
I usually cant do statusupdates to the Windows Live feed, I get some connection error. Not sure if that works over WiFi.
Bing search usually doesnt work on 3G. "We cant connect to search at the moment" if I turn on WiFi it works instantly.
When I say usually, thats like 60-90% of the time maybe?
Some of these things actually worked better before the update.
I chat with more people from Sweden with Omnia 7 that are having exact same problems.
(We are also the same people thats been having serious call problems with dropped calls, robot voices and bad call quality. (We have a thread soon reaching 700 posts about that on Swedish Telia forum, started in february, thats how long we have been at it with this on our provider and Samsung, and still not fixed))
Samsung Omnia 7 is really unusable on some networks and by the looks of things Samsung doesnt know how to fix it.
Im just so damn sick of this ****.
It would be nice if Mods didnt move this thread so we can see if any other OEM have any similar problems, thank you.
I'm using an Omnia 7 in Singapore and have not faced the problems you mentioned. You may want to try Samsung's Network Profile tool and reselect your carrier to reset 3G settings.
Yes the Omnia 7 works just great on some networks, if we switch to Three the problems pretty much goes away. This would indicate that there is something wrong with Telia but they have also tested everything and there is no other phone having these problems.
Believe me we have tried everything, we have had our devices at Samsung Service Centers and they have installed "special" firmwares for us etc but nothing solves the issues.
No problems with my Omnia 7 in Australia. It does sound like a carrier issue, honestly. Does internet browsing using 3G work?
There is no point in saying you dont have the problems, we know there are lots of happy Omnia 7 users out there.
But the fact remains the phone doesnt work on some networks.
Here is the old list (taken from the Omnia7-forum) of carriers where users have reported the same issues.
A1 Telekom - Austria
Proximus - Belgium
Mobistar - Belgium
Base - Belgium
Singtel - Singapore
T-mobile - Netherlands
Virgin Mobile - France
Bouygues - France
T-mobile - Germany
T-Mobile - US
Vodafone - Italy
Telenor - Norway
ERA - Poland
Simobil - Slovenia
Keep in mind the list is 6 months old so things might have changed in some places...
It would be interesting to know if VoodooKing is on Singtel?
Change to different carrier? If Telia sucks so bad wouldn't it be logical to change to something else?
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Change to different carrier? If Telia sucks so bad wouldn't it be logical to change to something else?
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Its my employer that uses Telia, I cant change it.
And its not Telia that sucks, telia has the best coverage in Sweden bar none, so its Samsung that sucks and as soon as Nokia delivers and my employer gives me green light to get a new phone this piece of **** goes straight into the wall.
it sucks to hear that your omnia 7 is experiencing these terrible bugs
mine's working perfectly though. omnia 7, not branded, philippines
Mine has the problem of not getting a data connection when I turn it on/off.
I have to end up turning the entire phone off, then back on with data on. That's the only way it'll work 100% of the time.
It does however work at times, but very rarely.
There is a rumour going that Samsung will release a fix for these issues in October.
I'l believe it when I see it though, seeing that we have been complaining to them since february. But maybe the Mango release has given them new energy or whatever?
Crossing fingers here.
I'm having the exact same issues with my Omnia 7 since switching to Telia from Three a few weeks ago.
This might sound absurd and in wrong thread but...
I seem to face same issues with HTC Titan on Giffgaff (uses O2 in the UK).
Could it be the way OS is laid on phones?
I have an omnia7 and a hd7
with the hd7 I don't have any problems with 02 DE
with the omnia7 3g suckes big time , internet not working and MP downloads are working so I know I have 3g but still if I try to IE It don't work
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I have an omnia7 and a hd7
with the hd7 I don't have any problems with 02 DE
with the omnia7 3g suckes big time , internet not working and MP downloads are working so I know I have 3g but still if I try to IE It don't work
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I have the same devices but I don´t have any problems with T-Mobile Germany.
BTW I thought you have sent your HD7 to our all Heathcliff74 ?
Some weeks ago I offered him to send my HD7 via mail too but he didn´t accept my offer because of the risk that the device could get broken for some reasons.
Same issues here, TMobile NL.
Problems keeping/establishing WiFi connection and problems keeping 3G connection. Sometimes have to reset to make it work or airplane mode on/off otherwise full 3g+ bars but no Internet...
Here in holland the 3g coverage is nearly perfect (delft/den haag) and I barely have death spots. Mago improved it, but did not fix it. After a while the device just gets cut off the network. And wifi disables when locked, when unlocking it struggles to reestablish.
The only problem I'm facing is that sometimes sound disappears during phonecalls while the connection
is still in place. I'm on vodafone nl, but this problem is a well known problem with the omnia 7. I used to
have HTC trophy and never experienced this problem. For me this was the last Samsung phone, as with the
last Samsung phones/tabs I had, I experienced nothing but problems and s##t support.
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you might want to consider using the diagnosis app to set your connection to a particular band
*#2263# under the diagnosis application will bring up the band selection menu
I used to have the problem of the phone always taking a longer time to get data connection mode. But that was fixed after just a simple move of limiting what the bands the phone would search for to have data connection.
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I have never had any issues, I'm using Telia too. Works fine here.
benjaminchia102 said:
you might want to consider using the diagnosis app to set your connection to a particular band
*#2263# under the diagnosis application will bring up the band selection menu
I used to have the problem of the phone always taking a longer time to get data connection mode. But that was fixed after just a simple move of limiting what the bands the phone would search for to have data connection.
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tnx for your tip. I have change from automatic to gsm mode and to 900/1800 gsm band (Germany/Europa) for now it seems to solve this annoying problem- i will post a feedback after test few days ...
mirolg said:
tnx for your tip. I have change from automatic to gsm mode and to 900/1800 gsm band (Europe) for now it seems to solve this annoying problem- i will post a feedback after test few days ...
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Thanks for this, but Im not able to select 900/1800/2100 which is what I need since our 3g is on 2100 (Netherlands) so if I select 900/1800 ill lose 3g... which is not worth it of course
So I bought an Att note 4 unlocked I bought it knowing I might have internet issues but it was cheap, and I'm having issues with the Internet it works fine its fast(not as fast as it should be) just very bad signal and constantly looses connection and searches for network I checked the apn it's on tmobiles network all looks fine, I'm guessing it might be the band issues but I'm using METROPCS which uses Tmobiles network I had a G3 and G2 pervious to getting the note 4 both where from tmobile and never had a single issue with those I would always get full signal never dropped a call not only that I would get download speeds and upload of over 30mbps now it's taken a dump. Any suggestions? I despise att because I use my network a lot away from home I was averaging 150gb a month on my G3 now it seems that it will be hard to do that with this phone pretty bumped use Netflix a lot watch movies online download games etc. :crying:
I have at&t note 4 too on Tmobile and I'm not able to get AWS tmobile bands. Any way to do this as was done with note2 and 3. Tha ks
I have the same setup
I get wierd download speeds
I average about 3-4 down and 12 - 20 up
On 4g lte
I have tried everything only 2 different apn servers to try
Everything works ...just slow for the most part
It's not a tower issue either...it's like that everywhere
Download should always be faster than upload
Tmobile tech support blames the unlocked at&t phone
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I blame the phone never had issues with tmobile phones till I got this att version of the note 4
I would think you can't get too upset if you're using a phone from one carrier on another, right? I mean there ARE differences between the networks and the devices themselves...