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Hi
I m new user for Android
i had bought HTC desire
can anybuddy tell me from where shud i start ?
i m basically symbian user
Now switch to Android as everybudy these days crazy abt Android
So i want to get to know these things as well
i want to install themes
want to format the phone as well
I tried to Eraze the data by turing off the phone and pressing down Volume button while turned onn but it did't worked out
coz i had installed metamorph its saying some files could not be extracted and setup. Make sure u have enough space in/system ( i m freaked out )
my phone is up to date 2.2 Android Froyo
If u whant to use metamorph u need to be rooted....but u can use home replacements from market, and your phone will have another....alure let's say, and for making a reset to your phone just go in settings. And then start to read a LOT on this forum coz there are stiky threads and not only, about the phone and how to start with... Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
The first thing you have to do is to read the manual book first and explore all the "standard" things you get.
All the settings, installing apps from market, testing apps, installing apps from PC or HTCSync, etc.
After you think that you have done all you can do with your "Standard" Desire, you will then try to install as much as apps you can...at this point you will realize..
"SH*T! I have run out of memory, I wanna have more memory"
Then you will delete apps if you wanna put new ones...and...
"SH*T! I wanna keep everything!"
...and so on...
Then, I don't really like the sound of the music on the earphone
"I need a DSP manager"
....and so on...
"SH*T! Is that all? My Desire can only do that?"
........
The time to learn how to root your phone and to flash custom ROMS has come!
Nice Advise thankz i m doing tht from now on
aaa said:
The first thing you have to do is to read the manual book first and explore all the "standard" things you get.
All the settings, installing apps from market, testing apps, installing apps from PC or HTCSync, etc.
After you think that you have done all you can do with your "Standard" Desire, you will then try to install as much as apps you can...at this point you will realize..
"SH*T! I have run out of memory, I wanna have more memory"
Then you will delete apps if you wanna put new ones...and...
"SH*T! I wanna keep everything!"
...and so on...
Then, I don't really like the sound of the music on the earphone
"I need a DSP manager"
....and so on...
"SH*T! Is that all? My Desire can only do that?"
........
The time to learn how to root your phone and to flash custom ROMS has come!
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That is so ... sooo true!!!!!!!!!!!! zomfg-cat face
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
Can someone break it down easy?
Many thanks!
soulman79 said:
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
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Well there's a danger you can accidentally delete something you shouldn't have. You do have access to the file system after all.
Malware threats are overblown on platforms outside of Windows. Android and iOS malware still needs you to purposely install an apk/ipa. If not, they're usually sent through SMS/MMS, which the Ouya is incapable of. <_<'
Pretty much the only ways you can get malware is if you sideload it or if it somehow sneaks into the stores.
There's one specific exploit... but that doesn't affect the Ouya because:
1. It's not Samsung.
2. It doesn't have GSM/3G/HSDPA.
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
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No such restriction exists on Android. My Ouya account is still usable after rooting (and it coexists with my Google account).
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
soulman79 said:
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
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Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
Ultimate Chicken said:
Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
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Awsome! got it rooted and can FINALLY log in to youtube, the google tv youtube app is perfect!
Thanks for all your answers, really appreciate it!
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
soulman79 said:
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
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Ah yes, the Play Store hack is what's known as a dirty hack. It leaves crumbs that persist through a factory reset. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44166123&postcount=158
PS: you'll need root access to delete those. After you get rid of the play store stuff you can factory reset again and it shouldn't be back.
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
soulman79 said:
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
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E's file explorer should be able to do it, but I think you need to mount system/ as R/W because it doesn't do so automatically. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/
If the above doesn't work, you're missing the superuser app.
These days I just connect things to my computer via microusb and use adb shell to deal with the file system; I still need busybox for that.
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
soulman79 said:
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
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The framework needs root access.
The playstore mod is the only one that leaves bits and pieces AFAIK... next time before you factory reset, run the cleanup tools and uninstall the mod first. (Sorry I didn't warn you before. I forgot. >.<)
ahh, will do =)
Finnaly got it setup up right! Thx for all the support man!
Hi everyone, So a year or so ago I installed a bunch of stuff on my phone and I don't really remember what they were... i'm terrible with phones and I really didn't understand why I installed all these things into my phone either.
I was hoping to get some expert help to help me figure out what it was that I installed and maybe reset my phone and redo all those things again and maybe a link to a guide on how to be updated on these installs.
I think I installed some kinda custom kernal? I do know I have a few things installed cause I was just following some guide a long time ago like clockworkmod, superuser, lucky patcher, SuperSU, Titanium Backup.
I have no idea what any of these programs do if they're useless please let me know.
Also if anyone can suggest something where I can back up my apps (I have a few games I would not like to lose the cache files to, hate to restart). My text messages, contacts .etc (currently using google to do my contacts but if there's a better way lmk).
remixinstyle said:
Hi everyone, So a year or so ago I installed a bunch of stuff on my phone and I don't really remember what they were... i'm terrible with phones and I really didn't understand why I installed all these things into my phone either.
I was hoping to get some expert help to help me figure out what it was that I installed and maybe reset my phone and redo all those things again and maybe a link to a guide on how to be updated on these installs.
I think I installed some kinda custom kernal? I do know I have a few things installed cause I was just following some guide a long time ago like clockworkmod, superuser, lucky patcher, SuperSU, Titanium Backup.
I have no idea what any of these programs do if they're useless please let me know.
Also if anyone can suggest something where I can back up my apps (I have a few games I would not like to lose the cache files to, hate to restart). My text messages, contacts .etc (currently using google to do my contacts but if there's a better way lmk).
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I see these posts a lot and I really really want to stress that the search tool, and search engines and general really will help you.
Backing up your games is as simple as using Titanium backup (Probably the first thing you'd find on google)
Resetting your phone, flashing back to stock to start over and everything, there's hundreds of guides on it.
Please use your resources.
Everyone starts somewhere, I never knew anything about phones once. It is so simple to start working on them or fix them. A lot easier than a PC. Anyone could do it. It only took me a couple of days to get a decent understanding of all of this. I started with searching.
Heloo all, i`m from Malaysia, and i bough a new cell phone online.. I bought an xperia M, but the phone company branded the cell, and now i have a lot of applications that i don`t need, i just wanna remove those apps.
-Virgilio
-119self
-187
-TimeScape
-Configuration Guid
-Tim App
-Cubomusica
-CuboVision
-TimCloud
-MusicUnlimited
-VideoUnlimited
-Music and vide
-PlayNow
-MCAfee Security
What Should I do?
PLEASE HELP ME ASAP!
help please
please... how to do that sync thingy... i dont know... the phone looks really messy right now
afeeqrm said:
please... how to do that sync thingy... i dont know... the phone looks really messy right now
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What sync thingy?
How to remove your bloatware:
1. Root your phone (search the forum)
2. Install titanium backup from Google play
3.
4. Profit?
This message was brought to you from my Sony Xperia M C1905 using Tapatalk.
It would be interesting to know how a smartphone with apps customized for an italian operator (TIM) is sold on the Malaysian market ! Globalization...
Back in topic: you can unistall without being rooted MCAfee Security for sure (I did it). For the other apps you must be routed as Antrikos48 has pointed out. Rather than Titanium as he's suggesting I would recommend the procedure mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542139 and you can add to the list:
-Virgilio
-119self
-187
-Tim App
-Cubomusica
-CuboVision
-TimCloud
I don't know anything about the other apps you're mentioning
afeeqrm said:
Heloo all, i`m from Malaysia, and i bough a new cell phone online.. I bought an xperia M, but the phone company branded the cell, and now i have a lot of applications that i don`t need, i just wanna remove those apps.
-Virgilio
-119self
-187
-TimeScape
-Configuration Guid
-Tim App
-Cubomusica
-CuboVision
-TimCloud
-MusicUnlimited
-VideoUnlimited
-Music and vide
-PlayNow
-MCAfee Security
What Should I do?
PLEASE HELP ME ASAP!
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afeeqrm said:
please... how to do that sync thingy... i dont know... the phone looks really messy right now
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Antrikos48 said:
What sync thingy?
How to remove your bloatware:
1. Root your phone (search the forum)
2. Install titanium backup from Google play
3.
4. Profit?
This message was brought to you from my Sony Xperia M C1905 using Tapatalk.
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the gladiator said:
It would be interesting to know how a smartphone with apps customized for an italian operator (TIM) is sold on the Malaysian market ! Globalization...
Back in topic: you can unistall without being rooted MCAfee Security for sure (I did it). For the other apps you must be routed as Antrikos48 has pointed out. Rather than Titanium as he's suggesting I would recommend the procedure mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542139 and you can add to the list:
-Virgilio
-119self
-187
-Tim App
-Cubomusica
-CuboVision
-TimCloud
I don't know anything about the other apps you're mentioning
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Well, to understand if you can easily remove applications from your ROM or not depends on few things. Firstly if you want to remove a system app or a normal app. In case of system app, you will need ROOT to perform the action. Secondly, even removing bloatware can brick your phone and you will need to reflash firmware. This is because the ROM usually share files between system and user. So one program might be using system files too and removing that could damage your system files resulting in bricked phone. For that, first you will need to deodex your ROM. This simply means that your all applications would be stand alone and there would not be sharing between them. So removing one program would not affect any at all.
I would prefer to remove bloatware with titanium backup after my ROM is deodexed as it's easier and gives you more control. However, you will need to root your phone!
Good Luck
Hnk1 you started to shed some light on the debranding issue. Some questions to go farther with your explanation: 1) is it possible to check if the ROM is already deodexed ? 2) why I should have more control removing bloatware with Titanium ? If I select the "wrong" app and I remove it the problem is the same regardless how I removed it
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Hnk1 you started to shed some light on the debranding issue. Some questions to go farther with your explanation: 1) is it possible to check if the ROM is already deodexed ? 2) why I should have more control removing bloatware with Titanium ? If I select the "wrong" app and I remove it the problem is the same regardless how I removed it
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1) Go to /system/app and check for any .odex files.
This message was brought to you from my Sony Xperia M C1905 using Tapatalk.
the gladiator said:
Hnk1 you started to shed some light on the debranding issue. Some questions to go farther with your explanation: 1) is it possible to check if the ROM is already deodexed ? 2) why I should have more control removing bloatware with Titanium ? If I select the "wrong" app and I remove it the problem is the same regardless how I removed it
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To wonder, if you have selected the normal file or not, this will come with experience and how ROM works.
I have even removed keyboards, camera, notes application, dialer and still my ROM booted. The files which are not in the app drawer are usually the files you must not remove unless you know about them ( like keyboards, extensions of facebook, picassa twitter or any other application which can be removed)
In Titanium backup, you can simply select which file you want to remove and you can even make a backup in case you need them later. You can also just freeze the app, in which case it will be installed but it wouldnot be functional at all. You wouldnot see it in app drawer even.
Remember to clear dalvik with titanium backup after deleting apps (esp system ones), this will free some extra space in Internal memory.
Good Luck
Antrikos48 & Hnk1, thanks for your directions.
To be honest, Hnkl, your "Good Luck" doesn't give me a lot of wish to go ahead in the process. Just in case...I guess that when you say "brick the phone" you mean "having a boot loop"; in this case, being routed but without a recovery (still with my bootloader blocked), which should be the procedure (if exists) ? Could you please just point me to the wright direction ?