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Hi,
I would like to get some peoples thoughts/feedback on the different WM6 ROMs available.
I have a Dopod 838 Pro and am probably going to flash it purely to see if any extra functionality can be gained out of it & seeing as i have Windows Vista on my Laptop, it seems logical to have WM6 on my XDA
XDA Live & LVSW seem to be looking the most populat of the current flavors around?
Any comments?
I'm actually just flashing the device now with LVSW but was reading some of the posts about XDA Live & it seems tempting...
I guess i may aswell mention i'm also testing out Telstra NextG at work, so anything which will make the radio more responsive & reliable is going to go down well in my books.
If mine goes good, then i might have to do the same for one of the managers at work who has the i-mate jasjam but with the current Telstra ROM on there it is performing like a snail in a sand pit.
All comments appreciated, seeing as i'm the guinea pig at work for most of this stuff.
Thanks.
I tried first LVSW, and run into installation trouble. I got the infamous white screen, and after I made it work, it was really slow. Maybe all my mistake, don't know. I tried than XDA Live 2, and that installed like a charm, and works like a charm, very fast. I am using it since 3 days now, and did not have a single time to soft re-set - and that was necessary with WM5 at least 3 twice a day.
Hi there,
I have notice many users with i-Mate JasJam have upgraded to WM6 Black Edition V1.2.
Anyone have any comments or comparison to the other two?
I am currently own a JasJam with WM5 - this thing runs like a dog and having to soft re-set almost everyday - I am currently considering upgrade to WM6 but really not sure which one to go for.
Any advice would be really appreciated - thanks.
See this: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/664668.html
You may have to do that reg hack to enable nextg.. that was the first thing I noticed after flashing a non standard rom.. less band options.. being on plain ole gsm, it didn't bother me.. but that's the only place I've seen mention of it.
I flashed my Dopod 838Pro with Black 1.2 and couldn't be happier. It's really quick, as stable as I noticed WM5 to be, and (being an Aussie) I prefer to have a rom which was cooked here and has carrier settings for here. This was my first experience with flashing a ROM but I only intend to flash again with a later version of the Black ROM. I'd highly recommend it.
I began with the WM6 vanilla and then went to an earlier LSVW ROM. The earlier LSVW took 25 min to flash. I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
I went back to the vanilla ROM. It takes a little tweaking to get it right but takes only a few minutes to flash. It's also stable. One does have to move the windows office icons around to use MS office.
Remember to SIM and CID unlock your hermes before flashing. Also, you'll have to use the keyboard fix cab for certain hermes versions.
I hear newer version takes 40 min to flash. Some have paniced and unpluged their phones temporarily bricking them.
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nope...I installed the OS only version and it took about only 6 minutes to install.
you need an 'OS only' rom if you have already flashed the radio to the latest version.
WM6 Black 1.2 is the best IMHO. I used XDA Live for several weeks, but find Black more quicker and more stable, less soft resets etc.
My preference is with the latest LSVW. It has less baggage than WMBE but if you need the functionality of the extra software provided with WMBE then you should chose that.
I think there is not much difference in terms of stability between the two although there has been issues with white screen (more apparent with the LSVW apparently) tho I haven't been cursed with that yet. Most of the instability/compatibility issues lie within the software installed after flashing the OS.
If I'm correct, LSVW has not had the OS version number editted to allow BBC/GOODLINK to work on it but WMBE has. This is not an issue for me since I have no use for these programs.
There is also some more recent additions to the variety of WM6 roms tho they are based on the LSVW version.
I'm looking forwards to Jasjammings WMBE 2.0 which he claims to be based on a final version of WM6. This should be very promising and despite the various added features which I won't need I'll definately be installing.
I was using Vanilla at first, sometimes my TyTN hung up but not too often. Then XDA Live v.10, without any problems. Then I've tried Black Edition v.1.2 but it had issues with SPB Software, sop that was no good for me at all.. Now I'm trying LVSW 2007-03-26, so far so good.. but probably i will flash again to XDA Live v.30 when it's avalaible
Just a quick poll for my own curiosity if nothing else, which WM 6.1 ROM are you using?
If not one of the above, please add a post explaining which.
Also, are there are any newer benchmarks available than those shown here?
You forgot "Binky11's ROM". Best I have used so far.
We seem to be getting a few 'others', but no indication which they are?
I'm currently using Faria's/Dr. Puttingham's ROM but it seems a little unstable, as the OS freezes on me forcing me to pull the battery to reset. I installed it yesterday, with 2 freezes already. I think I'm going to try another one. I use an 8525 btw.
-PB
PDACorner's ROM's have been the cleanest and most stable for me. He is always using the latest builds. I am currently using V.14. build 20226.
Personally I stay away from super storage ROMS. I don't have a need for them, and maybe by sheer coincidence I've only had 1 hard-reset for all the ROMs I've tried, whereas it seems like other folks were having them more often.
I've been a fan of the pdaviet ROMs, but lately have been happy with CRCs... not sure if you need to break out his dev ROMs from stable, since one is just a progression to another.
Stable, with good available program memory.
I used schaps 4 for ages, but I find myself more and more taking a simple "no options" rom (like the PDACorner rom) and adding the dialer, interface, and applications that I really want, instead of using some rom someone else builds.
So I guess you could say I use PDACorner with LOTS of mods.
CRC's 11.2 and 12.2 is the same
Basically re numbered. I too have issues with BS ROMs, my device seems not to agree with it! I would love to try again in the near future, but I use my device for business and can not afford hard resets at all. I go with CRC's ROM for weeks with the only need to power off and on again with side button every other week.
I don't know why but I can't seem to find others that would not hard reset on me, yet.
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
yesod7 said:
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
zocster said:
Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Oh. Right. Well, uh, if you ever get a Tilt, you should use this ROM...
i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs. im still using sleuth 3.1 from 7/5/07! =P. it's a PITA to backup data then upgrade, then resync data.
but i'm looking forward to upgrading soon, i think wm6.1 improves performance+stability yes?
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i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs.
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Agreed, i am sick of using WM6.1 to do the ASSync issue which seems to be present even in the official ROM's
Dvha79_ddt
Its always updated with the latest build. Its clean and stable. Suits my taste.
for what it's worth see my signature...
I have tried at some point just about every 6.1 rom I can find on this forum.
The PDAcorner v16 seemed good, and VERY fast, but I didnt like the UI or the idea of how long it would take me to get it how I like it.
I LOVE CRC's roms, they are clean, stable, and fast. Using 12.2 atm! with a 8meg page pool, dam fast!
For those who speak of the "latest build" ala PDA Viet and PDA corner...is there actually a noticeable difference when u flash to a later build ROM? I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much and then when you consider that you can try the same ROM with so many Pagepool settings, sigh....i could be spending HOURS testing ROMS and just don't have the time to play with them all and at diff settings. That is why I am VERY glad for a thread like this, cause it seems to be frowned upon to compare the ROMS on this site (or mainly to ask the oppinion for a ROM)...i don't exactly understand that, why not discuss and compare them?
what i am wondering, are the latest builds considered to always be the best? i feel like there are so many factors (including unknown ones) that attribute to a ROM being a good working ROM.
for those who have tried lots of the PDAVIET ROMS, any thoughts on which is/are the best?
I can't pick one of the ROMS on the list, but i will say this, i've been on WM6.1 for a while and am considering trying 6.0 again to get a new frame of reference to tell if one is indeed better than the other for me
Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] With add on's
I'm using CRC12.3 at the moment, but I'm not all that rapt in it.
PDV has had some good ones. Does a nice clean install and removes rubbish that other ROMs leave behind. Got rid of a bug that had plagued me for months.
PDACorner has had some good ones.
Randomize had the best package that needed the least customising by me.
I guess I'm just a ROM junkie.
Been thinking of upgrading to a Samsung i900, but then I'd miss all this fun.
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I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much
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You can use UC/sdconfig.txt to re-install all your favourite programs that run from internal RAM. Most of the stuff I want to add back in runs off my SD card. I just keep the cabs in a separate folder on my SD card and work through them. Only takes a few minutes.
Biggest hassle I had was with contacts and email settings.
But PIMBackup restores contacts in a flash, and Settings Savior restores all my email accounts (about 4 or 5).
Now I can re-flash and be back in operation in under 30 minutes.
Every ROM I get seems to crash
Never ever had crashes on the Kaiser so I was wondering why as I know you guys do a good job.
I have tried
Bxsteez Rhodium Lite & Sexy v2.1
miri 23017
EnergyROM_RHODIUM_20090914_StandardM2.5
ROMeOS3_WM65_1_04_23016_160909_PREMIUM_FINAL
Tom_Rhodium_Manila2.5_Build_23016_v1
Tom_Rhodium_Manila2.5_Build_23049_v1
Touch-IT Leo I_Rhodium
I have tried them both with the standard radio and with 4.46.25.24
At a loss really as the standard roms are no where near as nice as the custom's
Any idea's
Thanks
Graham
what are you doing when it crashes(if anything)?
What carrier are you with, what is the model of the phone?
ie.. my model is the T7373 (Tmobile)
Well, you DO know that Manila 2.5 is still beta, right? There are bugs with it.
Try downloading *more* ROMs with Manila 2.1. If you still continue to crash with those, I would suspect hardware issues (RAM or processor perhaps).
Avoid Manila 2.5 while it's still in development.
If you want stable, I recommend trying EnergyROM 20090922 (Standard).
Not a lot really, the touch flo crashes non stop or is very slow to respond after phone has been in stand by, also if slide to unlock has been on the phone will defiantly need a restart so I turned that off.
The Energy Rom is my current favourite and that needs restarting 2-3 times a day and freezes are so random.
Well it looks like he has tried 2 ROM's so far that are v2.1 Manila.
If he is getting the same result with both 2.1 and 2.5 where the phone is crashing, it may not be the ROM that is the issue.
What about the radio
Official Orange rom and official HTC don't crash at all although can slow at points.
Thanks
Graham
Graham,
Easiest option is to try the ROM I suggested, just to be sure - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=553506
Failing that, could be hardware as others suggest.
Which one titainum or standard
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Which one titainum or standard
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I'm running Standard, which includes Manila 2.1 (very stable).
I am using the NRG Genesis ROM older version (30 August I think) - I don't use Manila (although I think 2.1 is included) as I use MobileShell, and I think I have soft reset once since I flashed the ROM (and that was to apply some changes I made).
In due course I will upgrade to the latest for theodd tweaks but this is the most stable combination of phone and ROM i have ever had.
(I should add that I have not tried any of the other 23016 based ROMs yet and so am not saying they are not as stable - I upgraded to fix bluetooth issues and have not felt the need or had the time to flash any others)
Flashing now with standard, what's the difference with Titanium
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Flashing now with standard, what's the difference with Titanium
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The ROM thread I linked has lots of info. However, 'Titanium' is the name given to the Windows 6.5 homescreen plugin. Many people prefer Manila over Titanium.
I should add that this ROM is only an example of a stable one. There are many other stable ROMs from other chefs, but in your case, you need to eliminate the possibility of hardware. Also, avoid installing any additional programs for a day or two, just in case there's some software conflict causing your problems.
Good luck.
Its already faster and already appears more stable well speedy
Crashy roms
... I also use Standard Energy rom from 17092009. It is rather stable, but consumes battery ower to much as per me. I set up screen backlighting to auto and switched off pushing of emails through exchange server. Now it lasts about 12 hours (previously 5).
Hey,
I've just realized NFSFAN and NagROM are to different ROMs. My phone is currently on NFSFAN v16. Can someone advise which one is better for each carrier or differences between them?
BTW thanks a lot to NFSFAN, Nagrom Nniuq and everyone else for their effort/support on getting us a wm6.5 solution for our Vogue
Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
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Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
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well said, basically if you want the very latest build Nag is the way to go, if you can settle for an older but more stable build then NFS.
I go back and forth between both of their roms, and you cant go wrong with either one really.
NFSFAN without a glimpse of a doubt
nfsfan because it seems to do everything i need and then some, on top of that its a definite stable ROM, being im not real good with phones i dont wanna have to worry bout random issues popping up, and anything that ever happens with his ROM is usually addressed within a day or 2 and its very minor
I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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The instructions for Flashing one of NFSFAN's custom ROMS from the Chef himself:
1. Flash from BOOTLOADER mode only, let all customizations run.
2. Hard reset, let all customizations run.
There are users who suggest the "triple flash technique", In another forum NFSFAN himself suggested to a user to flash back to stock first, I think it started from there.
Question is......did you at least follow the chef's instructions?
The only tiime I have ever experienced a random hard reset with a ROM from NFSFAN is when I purposely flashed from active sync and did not hard reset after. One single improper flash. I was able to replicate most of the problems alot of users were reporting......and worse after the self hard reset. My exchange wouldn't sync contacts was one of them.
Following the above procedure (once again.....NFSFAN recommends bootloader mode himself) I have NEVER had a random hard reset, and my exchange works perfect. There was one 6.1 ROM version that had exchange issues (a beta build), but NFSFAN resolved it and I've never seen those problems since.
I can't remember the technical reason NFSFAN gave once for bootloader mode. BUT, it is his own kitchen and his ROM, therefor when he gives instruvtions on hoe to install it I do just that.
Please don't take this as a rant or anything personal. I would be interestred to hear if you flashed according to NFSFAN's instructions, and if not if you tried again and tested your exchange etc.
Cheers and happy flashing (With NFSFAN, VIN, NAG etc we have lots of that to do!!!)
were you really that bored?
right now am using NagROM because of 6.5.1 i llikkee it
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I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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It's a problem with the Windows Default Lock. Change to Windows Classic. Been a week without issues and mine was locking every day or 2.
slow88lx said:
Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
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Thanks for an excellent and accurate write up of both of our ROMs!
Hello everyone, I have been flashing my TP2 with different roms trying to find the most stable ROM.
I have tried many of NRG's roms and Rhodium_AF's roms also.
The thing is, i have a pre-release version of the TP2, my stepmom works as an engineer for AT&T and she is one of the few people in the country who test out the phones prior to their release, thus, have a lot of bugs.
I am not sure what it is, if it is a hardware problem, or a software problem, but the phone tends to crash very often, leaving me to restart it or remove the battery at least 3-4 times per day.
I currently am running Rhodium_AF's 21889 (January 17th) build with Sense 2.5
It seem to crash mainly around the new HTC Messaging app. If i switch to landscape by sliding out the keyboard while the onscreen keyboard is out, it will crash. If i try to go back to the home screen, and slide the keyboard shut at the same time, it will again, crash.
I have been booting android when i am having a text conversation because it is lightyears faster than the HTC Messaging app.
I am not sure what it is, a problem with the software, or because it may not be the final hardware revision, could it be the phone itself?
Thanks.
**Please, don't anyone jump all over me for my post. It is not meant to imply that the chef's are not making better ROMs than the stock. I get rid of my stock as soon as possible.**
I suggest you go with a stock ROM rather than one from XDA. The stock ROMs are designed to work, nothing "experimental". Try your carrier ROM and an HTC ROM to see if the device still misbehaves. That should help you to gauge if it is the hardware or the software.
Well I hear nothing but bad things about the stock roms, people couldnt stand them, hence why there are so many custom roms.
I never had a stock rom, my TP2 came with a pre-release ROM also. When i started it up, it was branded with a big "FOR TESTING PURPOSES ONLY" print on the startup screen. And god were there bugs.
But you are saying a normal AT&T stock rom would be better then the customs?
Lastly, what about NRG's Phoenix rom? I havent tried that one yet, but from what i understand, it is a more stable build.
*forum double posted*