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Windows Mobile 6 (Black 3.1) and Orangeworld

Hi,
Just upgraded my rom, and for some reason, when i go the the orangeworld site in pie, it only displays a text version. No graphics or anything.
Any ideas?

all these fantastic genius's here, and no ideas?

I have noticed this too, and it must be something to do with what PIE reports itself as for User Agent.
The sites work fine with Opera, but cant see if that reports as Mozilla for whatever.
We need someone with WM5 to look....

philg2000 said:
I have noticed this too, and it must be something to do with what PIE reports itself as for User Agent.
The sites work fine with Opera, but cant see if that reports as Mozilla for whatever.
We need someone with WM5 to look....
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I use PIE+ and tried all the user agents, but no change. Also noticed gprs/3g connection is real unstable! I'm in london, so definately a good coverage!

Erm....?
Any ideas?

What is the URL? Assume you have "show pictures" set etc ? I have black 3.1 on T mobile (well, virgin) and connection seems stable. This is on a m3100

Yeah I noticed this before too... I've only installed Black up to 3.0, so it the problem existed in at least version, maybe earlier.

http://wap.orange.co.uk for orange world. WEorks in opera fine. in PIE every other site i look at displays correctly, only orange so far is appearing as plain text.
As for the connection, i'm using the latest radio upgrade. to be honest, the connection was pants when i had the standard os installed, but then upgraded the radio, which improved it. But now i upgraded the os, the connection is worse than ever.
Also, Skype refuses to log in!
I'm pretty much ready to the sell piece of $h1t on ebay and get something else!!

So nobody able to help me?????

I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?

crazyC said:
I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?
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orangeinternet

crazyC said:
I don't use Orangeworld. Sorry. Have not had this issue. What apn are you using, the orangewap one or the orangeinternet one?
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I dont think its down to that in any case, coz it works fine with Opera.

yeah I know, just grasping at straws. I seem to remember that some of the orange sites only worked via the orangewap apn. never use them so dunno really.

Hi, sorry am unable to help as I have same on orangeworld, but would just recommend that before you sell, you try reverting the radio version to 1.38.0.10 or .01.
Makes it a whole different phone, no dropped signals, better battery.

gibster said:
Hi,
Just upgraded my rom, and for some reason, when i go the the orangeworld site in pie, it only displays a text version. No graphics or anything.
Any ideas?
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Yeah, no problems - orangeworld works fine in PIE for me WITH graphics (after I fixed it of course!!)
First I would recommend the latest Orange Radio ROM which is 1.38.00.01 - works best for Orange UK (this is not necessary for my fix to work though.)
See my cab file which installs the Orange UK MMS and internet settings as well as fixing the voicemail icon issue and the orangeworld graphics issue
If anyone needs it, I suppose I could create a cab file containing just the fix for orangeworld on PIE

Ok, here is the cab to just fix the Orangeworld site on Orange UK - it also fixes the voicemail icon since this is kinda essential
This should work on all WM6 ROMs on Orange UK
ps. you DO NOT need this file if you are using the cab file in the post above

Thanks alot Rabdo!!! I'll try the radio downgrade when i get home!!! Orange now works a treat!!!
Thanks!!

Just a quick question. What was the problem? It almost looked like it didn't pick up the css or something, but the strange thing was the fact every other site i looked at was fine. Would be nice to know exactly what was up with it.

rabdo! my wife can have your babies if you like!
radio fix and settings cab have sorted me right out!
keep getting the "H" symbol. did a quick test and was close to 500kbs! not sure how reliable that is, but just browsing now is a dream, and no connection dropped!
thanks a lot!

gibster said:
Just a quick question. What was the problem? It almost looked like it didn't pick up the css or something, but the strange thing was the fact every other site i looked at was fine. Would be nice to know exactly what was up with it.
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I have a similar problem on 3 UK in that none of the icons on Planet 3 show up - is this cab something generic that might fix my problem? My phone is working nice and smoothly and the moment so don't want to install it just in case.....

Jeyo Mobile Companion: Anything Like It?

I've been using Jeyo Mobile Companion for a while now: http://www.jeyo.com/companion.asp
It's great, you can SMS from your PC with it, manage your contacts (SIM or memory), use it as a task-manager, device screenshots, etc... Very useful program, but, doesn't work with Vista/WM6. Emails to support go unanswered (for months now) and they don't respond to users in their forums.
Does anyone know of something similar that works with WM6/Vista...? Thanks!

JMC works with WM6/Vista.
There is a work-around to make it work though. You have to go into the menu that says 'Install cab file', and then it opens up the browse window. Once in that window, click the network icon on the bottom in the left hand frame. You will see a message at the bottom saying 'Starting Device Agent' and as long as you are connected to your device via Windows Mobile Center, you will see stuff like you used to.
Edit: I see you have already registered and posted on their forums about v2.0. Does this workaround not work for you? It works OK for me.

It worked for WM5/Vista, but doesn't work for WM6/Vista.
monakh said:
JMC works with WM6/Vista.
There is a work-around to make it work though. You have to go into the menu that says 'Install cab file', and then it opens up the browse window. Once in that window, click the network icon on the bottom in the left hand frame. You will see a message at the bottom saying 'Starting Device Agent' and as long as you are connected to your device via Windows Mobile Center, you will see stuff like you used to.
Edit: I see you have already registered and posted on their forums about v2.0. Does this workaround not work for you? It works OK for me.
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I have WM6 and Vista and everything is working fine. I never used it with WM5 and Vista frankly.

I'm happy for you... thanks for sharing...
monakh said:
I have WM6 and Vista and everything is working fine. I never used it with WM5 and Vista frankly.
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Try pimbackup by Dotfred. It is wonderful. See here --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705

chaznet said:
I'm happy for you... thanks for sharing...
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Dude, chill out. I was trying to help and not say that 'it works for me so screw you'. My point was that since it's working for me, perhaps you could look into your non-working config a bit more to see if you can fix it. That's all. You said it doesn't work with WM6 & Vista and I corrected you. That's all.
Sheesh. Can't even help anyone these days without being dumped on.

I think its better to try and contact the developers. If the Network workaround doesn't work, then I am not sure anything will.

Really, I was (am) happy for you. It's just one of a few Dash-frustrations I've encountered since upgrading to WM6. Not sure why mine won't work. At one point, I was able to get it working by manually copying the file over that JMC uses on the device, and then manually running it on the device. Jeyo support doesn't respond, and I think they've all but abandoned their spam-ridden forums. Have given up for now, hope they come out with an update, it's a great product.
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Dude, chill out. I was trying to help and not say that 'it works for me so screw you'. My point was that since it's working for me, perhaps you could look into your non-working config a bit more to see if you can fix it. That's all. You said it doesn't work with WM6 & Vista and I corrected you. That's all.
Sheesh. Can't even help anyone these days without being dumped on.
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PhoenixAG said:
I think its better to try and contact the developers. If the Network workaround doesn't work, then I am not sure anything will.
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As mentioned already, the Jeyo team is incredibly unresponsive. They are possibly the worst software development team that develops great software. It's almost like the engineers are also the CSRs who have no regard for customer service.
There forums are being spammed constantly by spambots advertising p0rn. It's ridiculous.

WORKS
Windows vista ultimate vs wm5.
Network trick works!

Telenav 5.2 on 8525

This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.

JRLWeasle said:
This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.
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I have wanted this for a while, thank you for your findings.

it does work and the interface is so much better!
JRLWeasle said:
This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.
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Do You Need Account?
JRLWeasle said:
This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.
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Do you need an 'account' to use?

Telenav 5.2 on the unlocked TyTN II (Kaiser)
JRLWeasle said:
This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.
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Unfortunately it doesn't work on the TyTN II. On attempting to login, it is unable to connect to My ISP GPRS, 3G... TeleNav then issues the message, "Cannot connect to server. Please make sure that your phone is turned on and try again later".
Any ideas?
Telenav 4.2 for the 8525 seems to work on the TyTN II but I have not given it a thorough test yet.
Telenav say they do not support the TyTN II yet.
Unlocked TyTN II / Kaiser
WM6 Pro
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)
ROM 1.56.405.5 - 8/28/07
Radio 1.27.12.11
Protocol 22.45.88.07H

Since the Kaiser has an internal GPS and the TeleNav for the Mogul and the 8525 force you to use bluetooth GPS neither of those verions will work. But I was able to find this version that works perfectly with it's internal GPS.
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/ipaq6900/TeleNav_hw69xx.cab
It is version 4.2, does anyone know of a 5.2 version that supports internal GPS devices?
Thanks!

jjjjayd13 said:
Do you need an 'account' to use?
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TeleNav is a subscription service. Yes, you need an account.

Thanks!
LMaxwell said:
TeleNav is a subscription service. Yes, you need an account.
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THANKS!!!

Works great on 8525
This version worked straight away with my 8525. Of course I have a Telenav account and a Globalsat BT GPS. Traffic works great, and interface is much better.

which radio are you using, and which rom, i tried it and it says my signal is too weak... any thoughts... i know i need the radio version with gps enabled... i am using 1.47 now with vp3g newest release

AZGhosthawk said:
which radio are you using, and which rom, i tried it and it says my signal is too weak... any thoughts... i know i need the radio version with gps enabled... i am using 1.47 now with vp3g newest release
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I am using Radio 1.51 with VP3G. If you see the "Signal Too Weak" message, that usually means your BT GPS module is too far away from the phone.
I am a bit confused by your statement that you need the radio version with GPS enabled. If you are trying to use the GPS chip in the Hermes, I was unaware that anyone had that working, unless you did some soldering. To my knowledge, you need a Bluetooth GPS module to use this apllication with the 8525 or any Hermes variant.

JRLWeasle said:
This version is so much better then the one they actually say is for the 8525. I get traffic also, plus a whole bunch of new options. You can download it over the air at
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/sn-htc-mogul/telenav-sn-htc-mogul.cab
It was made for the sprint mogal but works perfect in the 8525.
Hope you all enjoy, whoever uses telenav.
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Thanks works great on my 8525....
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It's about god-damned time they got around to making a competitive program for the WM platform.

Guys this is an awesome find thanks! I have been waiting for this after many many promised from Telenav "it's coming". I just thought i would shre the following. I hope anyone who cares will also post to the Telenav forums and inform them this srt of deceptive practive wont be tolerated by the mobile community.
Let me first say for "legal reasons" below is simply my opinion/impression you make your own call on whats going on but my mind is made up.
Telenav the AT&T preferred partner for GPS is apparently deceiving users into believing that they currently dont have a way to run their latest version (5.x) on the AT&T 8525. There are loads of users complaining because their purchased the phones thinking they had the advanced features advertised by AT&T such as 3D maps and traffic information only to find out later AT&T was not telling the truth (to clarify I am not talking about the fact that there is no internal GPS, I knew that going in and I was fine with it. I bought Telenav's bluetooth GPS unit).
Although their other versions included this functionality the version allowed on the AT&T 8525 (4.x) was quite old without these features. All the while we were locked into a contract, asked to buy an external GPS, and sign up for new service with ATT, and Telenav service. After nearly a year of frustration I came across this threadand it came to my attention there was a download available marked for a different phone with the same hardware which worked. I downloaded it and installed and as I was told no problems at all. Works fine, tested all over no issues as most here can confirm. here is where it gets interesting.
I informed Telenav of this fact poorly asuming they might care and was promptly warned not to mention this. As well now all my original posts has been deleted, even though they originally responded several times (I have the screenshots). They must have had some internal meeting on how to handle this "leak" and they decided to censor me. As well they have now deleted all related posts in their forum. I was clear to mention this was not supported by Telenav and was for another build, but they didnt care, they wanted NO ONE to know.Why?? I will tell you.
My suspicion which they chose to dance around and would not answer me on was there is a specific reason they are not providing the update and thats business decision between Telenav and AT&T. You see AT&T just released the 8925, they upgraded version of the 8525. And while the hardware is virtually identical, it comes withe latest version of Telenav. It is my position that Telenav is purposly not releasing an update to the software which their customers were duped into purchased based on false advertisement because AT&T wants to force you to buy the new phone to get it. Very Sleezy in my opinion. i want to mare sure it is known that this type of practice will not be accepted my the mobile community and we will look to more respectable vendors for applications. Please make sure to let Telenav know what you think of this.
BTW each time I created a post even remotely discussing this it was deleted. Make sure to check back their forums after posting and you will see. Don't be afraid to open the post again, we will force them to respond. I opened over 10 and each was deleted with little to no reason but something tells me they know i'm pissed
http://forum.telenav.com/viewforum.php?f=1

WOW I would like to thank you I tried this with my 8525 which I upgraded to WM6 and it works great!!!!!!! Im so excited!!!
TY TY TY

any else hve the problem of telenav crashing when you sroll down on traffic???

make sure you disable your proxy. i found that fixes alot of problems. other than that it works great. great find

download Telenav from here
here is a link to download telenav for any phone
http://ota.telenav.com/ota/tn/choice/at_makers.html

Ok here is the fix for telenav on 6.1
ok after a couple of hours of the phone with telenav this is what i got. Fire this address into your pda browser and away you go.
http://otacdn.telenav.com/nav/attnav-htc-tilt/att-navigator-tilt.cab
or you can use this one
http://att.telenav.com/nav/choice/at_att.html
then select AT&Ttilt.
This version will run the internal GPS and is the latest version. Enjoy

This is why I bought the Garmin 10x which works awsome with my 8525, and has all the 3D maps. Plus the reciever works with Live search(which is better when walking), and google maps. Never wanted to give them my money for what I could by for a year of service.

SMS through PC

So, I'm looking for an app that allows me to send and recieve SMS through my PC, with my Dash connected via activesync.
Many people recommend Jeyo, but I want to try another one. Any suggestions?

This is relevant to my interests, seeing as my house is possibly the BIGGEST DEAD ZONE in my area.

Pocket Controller

phuKKah said:
This is relevant to my interests, seeing as my house is possibly the BIGGEST DEAD ZONE in my area.
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Well, if you live in a dead zone, then you have a slightly larger problem. Just because you can connect to your computer doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
For instance, I use(d) mDesktop ... awesome app, but what it does is use the PHONE as a "Network Router" (That is my term, basically it will act as a connection to the network) ... so no signal = no signal. The computer will not compensate. If you live in a deadzone, complain to your company and toss around a couple "You know [ANOTHER COMPANY] has great service here and a great price too" if you need to, and maybe the company will get some action done (then again, that isn't all too likely since towers tend to be shared for multiple purposes).
If you live in a dead zone, either complain, or try to find some sort of Online SMS service, because I am positive they exist, or build some sort of amplifier for cell signal (i would check instructables.com).

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Thanks!
I've tested it. There's a small issue. It allows keyboard input from the pc but some letters don't work. here's an explanation from one of SOTI's support team:
"we have tested Pocket Controller-Pro with Dash-equivalent devices (HTC-S620 / Excalibur) and it works without any problems.
The problem is observed on devices that are running the T-Mobile branded firmware, which is customized for T-Mobile and responds differently to input compared to devices running a standard firmware (with a standard keyboard input driver). "
I'm curently running 3VO's ROM.. any ideas?
UPDATE: same happens with "MyMobiler"

Cyclonezephyrxz7 said:
Well, if you live in a dead zone, then you have a slightly larger problem. Just because you can connect to your computer doesn't mean you can do whatever you want.
For instance, I use(d) mDesktop ... awesome app, but what it does is use the PHONE as a "Network Router" (That is my term, basically it will act as a connection to the network) ... so no signal = no signal. The computer will not compensate. If you live in a deadzone, complain to your company and toss around a couple "You know [ANOTHER COMPANY] has great service here and a great price too" if you need to, and maybe the company will get some action done (then again, that isn't all too likely since towers tend to be shared for multiple purposes).
If you live in a dead zone, either complain, or try to find some sort of Online SMS service, because I am positive they exist, or build some sort of amplifier for cell signal (i would check instructables.com).
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Haha I've been *****ing to T-Mo forever about it, but they won't do anything. The best I can do is AIM by adding phone numbers to it, but I would much rather be able to use my wifi and be able to text through my phone. Oh, the downfalls of technology :/

jgrv said:
Thanks!
I've tested it. There's a small issue. It allows keyboard input from the pc but some letters don't work. here's an explanation from one of SOTI's support team:
"we have tested Pocket Controller-Pro with Dash-equivalent devices (HTC-S620 / Excalibur) and it works without any problems.
The problem is observed on devices that are running the T-Mobile branded firmware, which is customized for T-Mobile and responds differently to input compared to devices running a standard firmware (with a standard keyboard input driver). "
I'm curently running 3VO's ROM.. any ideas?
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Change ROM if you can
Here it´s working perfect

I use mymobile works great

orb3000 said:
Change ROM if you can
Here it´s working perfect
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how sad is that haha
- Maybe I'll make my own app

If you do it please share it with us!

Its funny that you post this because I recently stumbled upon such a program,
look up : Jeyomobile
its an application that uses microcoft outlook with your active sync its
been awesome, and made it way easier to not only reply to text while im chillen on the computer but also delete **** loads of them.

thanks! but my problem with jeyo is that's not sending sms.. just receiving..
also I would like a stand-alone program and i Think Jeyo is a Outlook plugin. Activesync should consider sms sync and interface

[Q] Few problems with my Desire, any ideas?

I'm using unbranded Desire with no mods/rooting, udgraded to the latest official Android 2.2 version.
Here are my problems:
1. People say that they couldn't reach me (number unavailable) while I was on the network all the time. Doesn't happen very often (or I just don't know that) but is really annoying when it does.
2. I am connected to my home WiFi but browser/other programs say that network connection is not available. I have to turn wifi off and on again for it to work. Can it have something to do with the "energy management" widget?
3. My phone is calling people. I get a callback from people saying I called them but they couldn't hear anything (phone was in my pocket). I was wondering if it wasn't the case when I am finishing a call and pressing the red button to end the call but someone on the other side hung up earlier and when I press, the "call" function is activated. However I remember 1 or 2 times when it was definetely not the case.
4. I desperately need a PDF reader that allows to continue reading a book in the place where I finished last time. At the moment I need to be very careful not to close the pdf reader app. When I do I need to look for the page, really annoying. This should be a free app (Google doesn't want my money, they don't allow people from my country into paid appstore )

Hello, 1&2 are really weird problems, they might be connected with the radio, can you check your radio version in settings\about\software\baseband. Some people had problems with the official OTA. Just to be sure - is your wifi alright on other devices and are you sure you have sufficient network coverage. If you download torrents with a crappy router you are likely to get problems. If you're in a low signal area it is possible to lose signal while your device is in your pocket e.g. closer to the ground, when you pick it up you see the bars, when it's in the pocket the network dies. One thing you can easily do is a factory reset , this way we'll find out if any software is causing the problem
3 - you might be turning your device on and then pressing the screen and then calling people, it is not unheard of . Ask them if they hear any noise like cars, people passing by and other stuff, if they do then that's the case
4 - search the market, there are a few, you'll need to try them to see which works best for you

freakzone said:
Hello, 1&2 are really weird problems, they might be connected with the radio, can you check your radio version in settings\about\software\baseband.
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32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20 - does it tell you anything?
freakzone said:
Some people had problems with the official OTA. Just to be sure - is your wifi alright
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I'm quite sure it is, I have the maximum signal strength on the display of the phone.
freakzone said:
this way we'll find out if any software is causing the problem
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I think I'll do it when I have a spare weekend
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4 - search the market, there are a few, you'll need to try them to see which works best for you
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quite a few of them and NONE supporting what I need :-/

It might be worth to pop in the store, the unit might be defective, this radio is alright for froyo

allerune said:
1. People say that they couldn't reach me (number unavailable) while I was on the network all the time. Doesn't happen very often (or I just don't know that) but is really annoying when it does.
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If you only have a 2G connection, and are actively using data, all incoming calls will get diverted to voicemail because 2G only supports voice or data - not both at the same time. This is not an issue if you are in 3G coverage, when you can have simultaneous voice and data.
Note that this is a network side issue - 2G networks can be configured to prioritize voice over data, so that if a call comes through data is suspended, but as far as I'm aware most networks (in the UK at least) do not support this.
Regards,
Dave

freakzone said:
It might be worth to pop in the store, the unit might be defective, this radio is alright for froyo
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I guess there is no point going to the store with a problem that cannot be reproduced :-/
Anyway I don't think it's something physical, I suppose software reset will fix everything.
I had that with Nokias, there was a main board problem (every now and then it said "invalid sim card"). Every time I sent it back to the manufacturer, it came back saying "software replaced, tested, everything ok".
Thanks for help anyway ;-)

foxmeister said:
If you only have a 2G connection, and are actively using data, all incoming calls will get diverted to voicemail because 2G only supports voice or data - not both at the same time. This is not an issue if you are in 3G coverage, when you can have simultaneous voice and data.
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Thanks Dave, actually my phone is set to automatically choose network type and I am using a widget to turn off mobile data since I have WiFi at home and only turn it on when I'm outdoors.
I heard that some phones cannot decide whether they should log into the 3G or 2G and that may be the issue. I have changed the settings to use only 3G, we'll see how it works.
BTW: Dave, is it London Ealing? I used to work in Ealing O'Neill's pub back in my student days :-D