Looking for some affirmation. Stock Tilt 2 seems laggy. - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Okay, so I've been around on these forums for a while (Kaiser and Xperia), and have always used customs ROMs. With that preface....
I went and sampled the stock Tilt 2 in an AT&T store today and it just seemed sluggish and underwhelming next to my old but customized Xperia X1a (running Valkyrie latest Firestorm ROM). Please tell me that the experience is MUCH improved once a custom ROM is flashed. Seriously, I'm thinking my Tilt 1 wasn't much worse than the Tilt 2, aside from a few minor hardware differences. And I'm not real motivated to give up my Xperia for the Tilt 2. Anyone else that used to have an Xperia?? Comments??
Also, does the Tilt 2 camera work better with custom ROMs? I was really disappointed in that aspect in particular.
In short, I found the Tilt 2 to be fat, sluggish, and no better than my old customized phones. I know I'm comparing a customized phone to a stock one, so that's why I need you all's help! I've not used a customized Tilt 2.
Comments are appreciated. Peace.
ps. I'm thinking I'll still get it, and pray that Android is ported successfully

Epicardium said:
Okay, so I've been around on these forums for a while (Kaiser and Xperia), and have always used customs ROMs. With that preface....
I went and sampled the stock Tilt 2 in an AT&T store today and it just seemed sluggish and underwhelming next to my old but customized Xperia X1a (running Valkyrie latest Firestorm ROM). Please tell me that the experience is MUCH improved once a custom ROM is flashed. Seriously, I'm thinking my Tilt 1 wasn't much worse than the Tilt 2, aside from a few minor hardware differences. And I'm not real motivated to give up my Xperia for the Tilt 2. Anyone else that used to have an Xperia?? Comments??
Also, does the Tilt 2 camera work better with custom ROMs? I was really disappointed in that aspect in particular.
In short, I found the Tilt 2 to be fat, sluggish, and no better than my old customized phones. I know I'm comparing a customized phone to a stock one, so that's why I need you all's help! I've not used a customized Tilt 2.
Comments are appreciated. Peace.
ps. I'm thinking I'll still get it, and pray that Android is ported successfully
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I have been running the tilt 2 sense 3 days days before it was released by AT&T and am running a personal version of Josh's rom and I can say that it is improved alot. The stock rom is just trash compared to a custom rom. The camera (to quote one blog) is just crap all around, it is the only realy dissapointment I have with this phone and I have been waiting sense Feb for this phone to be released. I have never used the X1 so I cant really compare it to that.

Stock rom is laggy as hell and very slow/unresponsive. Once you flash a custom rom everything will be ok. On a side note, the touchflo3d/manila interface uses a lot of memory and I believe spb mobile shell is much better in terms of speed.

yep, my stock tilt2 is laggy, but has it looks it is the shotty programming from at&t. but I am not to the point of flashing yet, it does exactly what i want, even if i have to wait for it to respond, or i just soft reset it. it seems to run better without tf3d, but i like it still

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Is it just my imagination?

I got my Touch pro 2 from att about a little over a week ago. Now I must have flashed 10 roms on the phone so far. I used to have the first generation tilt for 2 years. Going from that to the new tilt 2 I am not that impressed with the difference in speed. I am wondering was the first generation tilt fully pimped out really that good for what it was or do we still have a way to go with the tp2 as far as development goes. That aside I feel the speed is only marginally better so far, aside from the hardware differences I am wondering, is this as good as it is going to get? Any other opinions about this? Just wondering what the consensus is.
ucanthang29 said:
I got my Touch pro 2 from att about a little over a week ago. Now I must have flashed 10 roms on the phone so far. I used to have the first generation tilt for 2 years. Going from that to the new tilt 2 I am not that impressed with the difference in speed. I am wondering was the first generation tilt fully pimped out really that good for what it was or do we still have a way to go with the tp2 as far as development goes. That aside I feel the speed is only marginally better so far, aside from the hardware differences I am wondering, is this as good as it is going to get? Any other opinions about this? Just wondering what the consensus is.
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Hello there... I also have the original Tilt (Kaiser) as well as the Tilt 2 now... I can really tell as well as you that the speed is not so much improved from the original at 400Mhz... and now 528 or so... those 100+ Mhz are lost with the new screen resolution and software like TouchFlo 3D... so it's pretty much the same thing when speaking about performance... The only things that I can tell for sure are...:
-> GPS Lock is awesome from 10 sec - 40 Sec... easy... (much better than Tilt 1)
-> Screen is a huge plus... obviously...
-> Tilt function same as Tilt 1... sluggish as hell often.
-> Camera is more or less the same thing... (a bit more resolution on the Tilt 2 but slow and buggy as Tilt 1 in my opinion)
-> Plus on Proximity / G-Sensor...
Also I have to mention something that everybody already knows... We all know that "in the World of PDA's the Iphone is just a toy" but I have to say that the touch sensibility / quality is much, much better on the Toy (Iphone 3G/3GS/Ipod Touch) than any HTC or whatever brand PDA including the HTC's Touch Pro 2 of course... I was hopping to finally get a much better Touch Screen on the Tilt 2 and I was disappointed as usual. The question stands... when are we going to get an Iphone kind of touch screen on our PDA's...?
I can continue and post a complete review... lol... but that's not the idea...
Now... what I find strange that nobody seems to realize is that there is no support for Flash on the new Tilt2 (with Opera)... I already tried to install the Juggalo_X Official Flash Lite 3.1 CE-OS 20757.cab plus replaced the Opera browser with other versions and there is no way I can get Flash working on the Tilt 2. Am I the only one that wants or would like to have Flash working? This was done in 2 minutes on the Tilt 1... and works great on Tilt 1... any ideas?
Well I am glad someone responded and shared my sentiment. It is a little bit of a let down so far with the tilt 2. The one issue I now am pending is do I return my phone before the 30 days and go back to the tilt and hold out for something down the pike for the holidays or get something to hold me over till then and get the leo whenever it makes its way down here. Samsung Omnia 2 will be arriving in multiple carriers soon I think as well. You get an 800 mhz processor with that and it def seems sleeker. Not sure what to do at this point. Unless there is an explosion of really quick and eye catching roms that maximize the performance of this device I dont think I will keep it past the 30 days.
Damn
I have a day one Tilt. I had about twelve roms on it ,including TPC Titanium Ultimate 23053. That was the fastest rom I ever had on my Tilt. The stock ATT ROM on my Tilt 2 murdered it. A co-worker at work has a 3GS and tried out my phone and was very impressed with the Touch screen. Apparently, as was the case with my original tilt, each batch has subtle differences. Even Cnet was impressed with it. Newtek, people realize. They just use skyfire or internet explorer mobile. There is a workaround for Opera, but it's hit or miss like the original fix.
If I am not mistaken, didn't the tilt 1 have only 64 megabytes of ram. For me, the hugest difference between my mogul and my previous phone, the Touch pro, was the HUGE gap in ram that I gained, ALONG with the drastically better resolution. Those two alone made the upgrade worth it by far. On my mogul, I would always have to fight for roms that give me 50% free ram at boot and could rarely multi-task. I get my Touch Pro 2 on monday. I don't expect it to be much different from my Touch Pro because it technically has the same guts. I will be looking foreward to the nice big screen though.
newtek1 said:
Also I have to mention something that everybody already knows... We all know that "in the World of PDA's the Iphone is just a toy" but I have to say that the touch sensibility / quality is much, much better on the Toy (Iphone 3G/3GS/Ipod Touch) than any HTC or whatever brand PDA including the HTC's Touch Pro 2 of course... I was hopping to finally get a much better Touch Screen on the Tilt 2 and I was disappointed as usual. The question stands... when are we going to get an Iphone kind of touch screen on our PDA's...?
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As soon as the HTC Touch HD2 is available. It's the first HTC device that contains a capacitive touch screen like the "toy" and the cpu has twice the speed as well.
André
well
i think kaiser is a real good cellphone ..but tp2 is better ...
I loved my original Tilt, but after getting my Tilt 2 there is no going back.
For me:
1. The screen is SOO much nicer and bigger..
2. It much more responsive the gestures and finger friendly.
3. It not instant but is noticeably faster than the Kaiser overall.
4. My experience with Opera is nicer and faster.
5. My GPS lock is MUCH quicker.
6. It retrieves my e-mail faster.
I for one am happy.
newtek1 said:
Now... what I find strange that nobody seems to realize is that there is no support for Flash on the new Tilt2 (with Opera)... I already tried to install the Juggalo_X Official Flash Lite 3.1 CE-OS 20757.cab plus replaced the Opera browser with other versions and there is no way I can get Flash working on the Tilt 2. Am I the only one that wants or would like to have Flash working? This was done in 2 minutes on the Tilt 1... and works great on Tilt 1... any ideas?
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Skyfire's flash built in works great.
newtek1 said:
Also I have to mention something that everybody already knows... We all know that "in the World of PDA's the Iphone is just a toy" but I have to say that the touch sensibility / quality is much, much better on the Toy (Iphone 3G/3GS/Ipod Touch) than any HTC or whatever brand PDA including the HTC's Touch Pro 2 of course... I was hopping to finally get a much better Touch Screen on the Tilt 2 and I was disappointed as usual. The question stands... when are we going to get an Iphone kind of touch screen on our PDA's...?
I can continue and post a complete review... lol... but that's not the idea...
Now... what I find strange that nobody seems to realize is that there is no support for Flash on the new Tilt2 (with Opera)... I already tried to install the Juggalo_X Official Flash Lite 3.1 CE-OS 20757.cab plus replaced the Opera browser with other versions and there is no way I can get Flash working on the Tilt 2. Am I the only one that wants or would like to have Flash working? This was done in 2 minutes on the Tilt 1... and works great on Tilt 1... any ideas?
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If you prefer the way touch works in iPhone then you have to wait for HTC Leo which is also based on capactive screen. TP2 and others are all based in resistive screen.
As for Flash Lite 3.1, it comes with IE on TP2. Anyway, Adobe will make available the full Flash 10.1 player for WM phone. Public beta before end of the year.
att tilt 2 opera flash problem
kierandill said:
Skyfire's flash built in works great.
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i have the same problem at first when i got the phone it worked in opera but when i did a clear storage aka hard reset it stopped working. i called att and they called htc both of them had no clue that that would happen if you do a hard reset. so they sent me another phone i got it yesterday and set the phone up and it still didnt work. well they sent me a refurbed phone. so now today i have two tilt 2's that wont work right i have another one coming it friday and it is supposed to be brand new. i have tried every flash lite on the web and opera and it doesnt work. they are doing some thing to the phone. htc says that it is supposed to be on the phone but it looks like to me they set it in the phone as a third party software and if you reset the phone you lose it and after you can find flash lite and install it it still doesnt work in opera and p ie doesnt work as well after either. so they are about to lose alot of money becuase its supposed to work and it doesnt. but if anyone out there knows how to make it work with opera and tilt 2 windows mobile 6.5 email me asap at [email protected]
twilite318 said:
i have the same problem at first when i got the phone it worked in opera but when i did a clear storage aka hard reset it stopped working. i called att and they called htc both of them had no clue that that would happen if you do a hard reset. so they sent me another phone i got it yesterday and set the phone up and it still didnt work. well they sent me a refurbed phone. so now today i have two tilt 2's that wont work right i have another one coming it friday and it is supposed to be brand new. i have tried every flash lite on the web and opera and it doesnt work. they are doing some thing to the phone. htc says that it is supposed to be on the phone but it looks like to me they set it in the phone as a third party software and if you reset the phone you lose it and after you can find flash lite and install it it still doesnt work in opera and p ie doesnt work as well after either. so they are about to lose alot of money becuase its supposed to work and it doesnt. but if anyone out there knows how to make it work with opera and tilt 2 windows mobile 6.5 email me asap at [email protected]
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Dude?!! Did you even read this thread. Opera does not do flash out the box!!! There is nothing wrong with any of those phones. Use Skyfire! There is a hack someone created to do flash on Opera. It's called Opera flash fix. Stop wasting your time and HTC and ATT's time with this issue. Adobe is supposed to make Flash 10 compatible with Windows Mobile later this year.

[Q] Roms

Okay so I am new to the pro coming from an incredible...and well when i first got the incredible there really wasnt anything as far as rooting and roms go..but the pro has been out since november..it has root..however it doesnt seem like a lot of people are interested in porting roms and making customs ones for it..i mean is fission the only thing being worked on? no miui or cynagen?
That seems to be the case. I am actually researching how to cook Roms to see if I could do it since no one else seems to be.
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yeah im thinking about learning to do it too...its just finding time with school/work
I also came from the Incredible. The development for that device was amazing within a few months. However, for the Pro, it's really a sad state of affairs--no ROM to speak of. There is a Fission ROM RC1, but it's definitely not a daily driver and there's been nothing since that first release.
I LOVE the physical keyboard of the Pro, but I miss the fun of the Incredible. I'm sure I'll soon sell my Pro for the upcoming Incredible 2 or thunderbolt. I'll never buy a Motorola Android device again.
Yeah. It's kind of too bad. I have a Droid Pro and a Droid 2 (was given the Droid Pro), and recently switched to the Droid Pro as my everyday device. I love the keyboard and form factor, but would prefer to be able to run something closer to AOSP stock (have the most recent build of Fission on the D2).
I'm guessing that there just aren't enough Droid Pros out there for anyone to be interested in developing ROMs. Too bad, because it's a great phone, although I can see people not being interested in a "high-end" phone with an HVGA display.
Maybe the next version of MotoBlur will be better than the current one (although I've been happier with the stock software on the Droid Pro than I was with the Motoblur on the Droid 2 when it came out).
I mean for me its not so much as the UI...i actually dont mind moto blur at all and aside from missing the favorites widget for contacts and the default clock..i like it a lot better than sense...but the thing that i want is custom kernels and what not for speed/battery management and the other extra things
where are the chefs............?????????????
its pity, great phone with great hardware but dump software, we need chefs here..... where are you??????
please dont let droid pro to go down the drain, please......
we need a stable and fast AOSP ROM .......if possible......donating not a problem
please guys.....
Yeah I am really hoping for a Cynagen port of 2.3 onto this device
Really? This is where we stand on this? Nothing since February?
yah i know it sucks i want to learn to port so i can take the roms made for dx or d2 i really want cyn
Isn't the bootloader locked on this thing? That's why not really any roms?
Bootloader on the Droid X and Droid 2 are locked as well but both have some custom ROMs available..
Think it's more of an issue with the lack of numbers....not any devs have this device and not a huge number of Droid Pro users compared with the others....with the similarities with the X and Droid 2 you would think it wouldn't be too hard to port over a ROM to the Pro....
if you go check out droid forums you will see there is a guy working on CM7 for the PRO i cant wait for the first beta
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-pro/154369-gonna-build-cyanogenmod-7-pro.html
jayhammy said:
I also came from the Incredible. The development for that device was amazing within a few months. However, for the Pro, it's really a sad state of affairs--no ROM to speak of. There is a Fission ROM RC1, but it's definitely not a daily driver and there's been nothing since that first release.
I LOVE the physical keyboard of the Pro, but I miss the fun of the Incredible. I'm sure I'll soon sell my Pro for the upcoming Incredible 2 or thunderbolt. I'll never buy a Motorola Android device again.
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Well the problem is the pro was targeted at corporate America. Not the IT guys or nerds but the exec's that loved the blackberry. The result is you don't have a lot of pro owners that know what xda-developers.com is, let alone a custom rom.
Bashing motorola? For realz? Damn man I love my Droid X, I do product reviews on just about every phone on the market and I have to say my original Droid X is still my favorite and I don't pay for service, phones or anything. I have my pick... and it's the Droid X. I've been thinking about switching to the Droid X 2 which is just as outstanding, the only problem is I don't want to reward them for not going 4G with it. I don't really need a processor upgrade and I have a 32 gb micro in the Droid X 1 (which I was surprised it recognized to be honest).
Anyway, Droid X 1 with MIUI FTW

[Q] Get Notifications to Turn On the Screen

Hi!
My iPhone 4 contract recently finished, and so a couple of weeks ago I acquired a HTC One X.
Most things work well - it's noticeably nowhere near as polished as the iPhone UI was, but I'm only on a 12 month contract, so I can live with it.
One thing that is really bugging me is that notifications on the iPhone caused the screen to turn on, which I found really useful. Is there the option to do this on the One X?
Also, can I make it repeat notifications x number of times if I don't immediately notice it?
Thanks in advance!
Thomas
At the moment, no on both counts. Whether there's an app to do it I don't know
I don't believe there's built-in functionality for those, but as you'll probably discover over time you can get into a lot more of the phone's inner workings and get the funtionality via apps — that's the beauty of Android.
Here are a couple to look at:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.igecelabs.android.MissedIt
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflow
I'm confident you'll find more with a little sifting though.
As for the overall UI polish, this is an aside but I was a little disappointed too when I switched from my iPhone 4 to the One X. However, the moment I installed regular Android Ice Cream Sandwich (specifically one of the WIP Cyanogenmod 9 ports) I realised that HTC actually aren't that great at UI because almost every single change they make is for the worse.
Indeed, most parts of the phone look and feel better without HTC's add-ons. Even the menus look better, losing that weird 'breaking apart' effect HTC chose to use. The contact editing, messaging, etc is so much cleaner too, and everything like swiping between pages feels smoother. Here's a guide that shows what the more stock experience looks like:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...android-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-1043150/review
But that might be a step too far for you. It was my first ever time using a custom ROM and it only took me a few hours to get my head around and pull off, so it's up to you.
Thanks for the responses, I appreciate it!
It has been a while since I've flashed a new ROM on to a phone - I had a HTC TyTN II a few years ago (that was an awful phone) which I had a few custom roms.
I might start looking at custom roms soon. My brother has a Galaxy Nexus which I believe has the stock Android UI, so maybe I'll play around on that for a bit to see what it's like.
Thanks again!
Thomas

Should I get a Samsung Captivate Glide (i927)?

Sorry if this has already been asked, but how is the Samsung Glide? I have been using an HTC Status (ChaCha) for years, and just recently rooted. I liked the form factor and keyboard, but the internal memory was miserably limited, even after rooting and getting rid of bloatware, moving apps to SD, etc. The sound from the speaker was pretty poor too (I am aware that Beats audio can be installed to rooted phones ... have yet to try that) and putting the SD card slot underneath the battery is awkward. I have gotten a handle on Android's strengths and weaknesses (Gingerbread) so I will have a better idea of what to expect for my next phone. I definitely prefer a physical keyboard, and most Android based phones do not have one, or have poor specs. The Captivate Glide seems to measure up. I have read the specs GSM Arena gave on this phone,and it seems pretty good. It claims that it has Flash. Is this Adobe Flash, or something along the lines of HTC Status' Flash Lite? I definitely want Adobe Flash support, even if Adobe plans to end future support. I have an LG Neon lying around, a basic phone with a slide out keyboard ... it was okay, but for some weird reason only recognized one key input at a time, which made playing video games like Galaga miserable, even though the graphics were quite close to the arcade. I need to be able to press more than one key input at a time! I am also interested in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, neither of which would likely run very well on the Status, if they even can run. I have read of Glide users having a lot of problems with ICS. Should I wait for another phone with ICS preloaded, or just wait for a better Glide optimized ICS or Jelly Bean? Finally, how easy was it to root this phone? Rooting the Status was a real pain, as the HTC Dev software was getting me nowhere, by claiming the rom version is not supported ... even after the AT&T update. I bought the XTC Clip and couldn't get it to work, until a friend of mine got it working right (stick the flex cable in real tight in the SIM slot) and put on CWM and SuperUser. Somehow it did not unlock the carrier though. Anything like this for the Glide? How is the battery life?
Hello DearestLeader (that's an interesting choice of nickname given the origin of the devices being discussed!)
There are a few threads reviewing the device. I've played with one prior to giving it (SGH-I927R) to my girlfriend, so I won't be able to comment on all aspects of the phone.
If you're buying outright, another, more expensive (500$ outright) model that might be worth looking into is T-Mobile USA's recently announced Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699). Same screen, worse camera (5MP versus 8MP for the 927), DC-HSPA 42 instead of HSPA 21, and a Snapdragon S4 Krait SoC instead of a Tegra 2. And it does support AT&T bands as well.
The ICS update for the Glide was just pulled from Kies, which indicates another build is on its way, likely fixing the issues reported here.
Rooting is easy: switch the phone to download mode, install CWM with Odin, install superuser zip of your choosing.
Unlocking is easy provided you're rooted and know how to use a hex editor.
If you're with Sprint, they released a new qwerty physical keyboard android called Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE. Comparable stats to our glide but it does have ICS preloaded.
I came from a Sony Ericsson k850i and couldn't live without buttons so I grabbed the Glide. It had a rough start not being as popular as other devices. We didn't get an official otterbox case or get official cyanogen mods but in the last few months, devs/testers/community really banded together and we have quite the support. We may not have ICS 100% but the hardworking devs and testers will take care of that. JB seems like a dream but who knows, someone just may surprise us.
Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.
With the ICS update, the Captivate Glide is a spectacular device. :good:
There were several major issues with Gingerbread (compass orientation incorrect, general lag and instability, poor bluetooth audio quality and battery life, etc) but they've all been resolved by the update and the community.
The screen, while not the highest res (800x480) is AMOLED and looks great. The CPU, while not quad-core, is still plenty fast, and it has 1gb RAM. Onboard storage is pitiful, but add a 32gb SD card and swap /mnt/sdcard with /mnt/sdcard/external_sd, and your primary storage can become up to 64gb.
It's not LTE, but it is still pretty quick. On Rogers in Canada I get ~5mbit/s down and 2mbit/sec up, which is totally respectable.
It's also a very cheap device now, since it is somewhat dated. Honestly, I can't recommend another keyboard phone more highly.
My $0.02.
bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:
Thanks for the replies!
I will have to stick with AT&T, as I am on my mother's plan and not only she but several other people I call or text regularly are on AT&T too.
I did try out the phone at the AT&T store and it was nice. However, the sales rep said units sold after August 26th will not run Adobe Flash (the in store unit did not have it but was downloadable from Google Play and ran great). He did have people returning units for lack of Adobe Flash (I do not ask if these folks tried rooting or if they even bothered to download from Google Play). If Flash is good to go, without rooting (have to wait to see if there are no defects lor serious flaws like frequent unexpected reboots before rooting, as my warranty would be void) then I am getting one.
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bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:
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Worse case you could probably sideload the Flash apk onto the phone.
Remember that root's not supposed to void your warranty, there were some XDA portal posts about this iirc. Either way its nothing that a DIY stock re-flash wouldn't solve.
I have to stick with AT&T for the same reason. I love this phone though, but I just can't get used to the physical keyboard. My girlfriend texts and uses my phone sometimes and she loves the physical keyboard though. Overall its a good phone and I would recommend it to anyone wanting an android with decent specs.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)
I have the unlocked (and of course rooted) Samsung Galaxy Captivate Glide that I picked up used (but still in very good condition), and I can tell you that purchasing the phone (either old or new) is worth it, IMO. I like the fact that this phone have the hardware keyboard, decent organic LED screen, dual-core superscalar out-of-order Cortex A9 processor, and good 8MP camera. 4GB on-board storage didn't stop me from getting it. Loving this phone.
There is also few Android phone with the same hardward keyboard setup - try browsing through your favorite PC part internet store like Newegg as they sells both locked and unlocked smartphones nowaday too.
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You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)
hazard1nc said:
You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)
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Ya I experienced that bug on chrome a well. Kinda sucks that the soft keyboard would not display.kept having to pull out the hardware one for quick searches. That's why I switched to dolphin.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I927R using xda app-developers app
I love this phone
I came from HTC g2 phone t-Mobile. I got this phone used off ebay in great condition. The company I work for is on att and I wanted a physical keyboard. Not too many to choose from. I use both on screen & physical keyboard equally. Rooting was a snap and am so happy with ics. Before ics I used dman's Inception v2 rom and loved it. Now I'm using nardrom 0.4 and hope dman comes out with a v3 rom. I'd recommend this phone to any one who likes the choice of a physical keyboard.
If you need a physical keyboard, GSM service, and want a powerful phone, there really aren't many other options. I say get it, I love mine.
I've been wondering about this myself. I love the Epic 4G, but I don't want to go back to Sprint, and I'm not too thrilled with Cricket (I don't love them nor hate them, they'll do for now). So I figure, get a Captivate Glide, unlock it, and go to Net10 or Straight Talk. The Captivate Glide appears to be a sort of unofficial successor to the Epic 4G, so it seems logical. Plus since its GSM I can take it with me whenever I travel outside the United States.
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Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.
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Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.
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Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.
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Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB
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Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB
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Ah okay. See the most I was going to do to a Captivate Glide when I get it would be to root it. So basically if I root it I should go ahead and get a rom, preferably the one you mentioned (GB), until something better comes along. I have no problem waiting, and if GB is a good fix in the meantime, well problem solved.
GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB
I use gps all the time on my Glide. The most issues I've had is a few time I've had to turn gas off and back on 2 or 4 times in a row.
But that only happened a few times in 5 months.
This ia using both the stock GB and the stock ICS , and after rooting ICS.
Overall, i would give GPS on my Glide 9.5 out of 10
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GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB
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I see. So when I get a Glide, I can either leave it alone (let it stay on GB and not update it to ICS), or root it to stock GB. If I do the latter then I can get roms made just for the GB.

Might buy D851: Looking for opinions

Hi folks,
I just dropped my Samsung S4 and cracked the screen. :crying: It still works, but it's time to move on. I never buy new / latest devices; instead I wait and buy last year's model from Swappa or the like, selling my old phone to partially subsidize the purchase. Looks like my S4 is going to the Boneyard.
What I've been looking for is a 2014 model, 5.5" screen, rootable/unlocked bootloader (I like custom ROMs :good: ), phone with a multicolor notification light and good battery. Was thinking to go up to Nexus 6 but it's just too big for me.
The LG G3 looks just about perfect. I've spent the last hour reading up on it. The T-Mo version should work fine for my AT&T service, and it comes unlocked, both SIM and Bootloader. Can any ATT users attest to the phone working well on that network? (EDIT: I googled a bit and found it works fine)
There seems to be plenty of development, though surprisingly I don't see a plain vanilla GPE 5.1.1 ROM out there. Most of the development I see seems to be around AOSP (I'm a fan of SlimROMs and have had good experiences with Dirty Unicorns too, been considering Bliss on other devices). Have I missed a very plain GPE (at least 5.1) compiled for the G3? Doing my research it looks like the latest OTA is still 20G (5.0.1), and it sounds like Marshmallow will eventually come out (I'm not sure I want it...). Would love to hear what the most plain GPE like 5.1 ROM is.
I'd love to hear any experience or recommendations... anybody get a G3 recently and wish they got something else, instead? Or is this a device we can all love for another year or so?
Thanks. I'm itching to pull the trigger and just need some encouragement, or possibly a conk on the head to look into some other phone.
One last question: how intense is the vibrate function on the G3? My S4 isn't strong enough vibrating, and I often miss calls and stuff when I'm in silent/vibrate mode. Looking for something a bit more attention getting if possible!
Marc
I dropped my note 3 for thus phone. Although it's rootable the g3 seems to be fragile when it comes to flashing roms if you don't know what you are doing. Not worse than the note 3 though ( ATT murdered that phone).
Thanks for the reply!
I've gone ahead and purchased the D851. It should arrive today, and I should have it set up later this week. Looking forward to it. I've bought an iCarez 0.2mm screen protector for it and am looking into bumpers/wraps to keep it minty.
I'm a bit concerned since there's no 5.1(.1) GPE ROM available, but many of the Dev'ed ROM options look attractive. I'm going to start by rooting the thing and subtracting bloatware. After that, we'll see... On the S4, the T-Mo boot animation was reason enough to flash a ROM. Loud and annoying.
I'm curious, are you stock, or have you flashed something (if so, which ROM)?
Again, thank you. I appreciate your reply.
I was practically in the same boat. I had a GS4 , but cracked the display, the actual display not the glass, and bought a G3. I replaced the front glass twice before that, its a very fragile phone. But otherwise I loved the S4 for the screen, the plain design, ROMs, expandable storage, and removable battery.
The G3 is very comparable to the S4, the screen I'd say is slight upgrade. You can barely notice 1440p vs 1080p, and I'd say its viewing angles aren't as good, but I still like it over my S4. I'm running paranoid android 5.1.1 on it now. Its similar to AOSP. If you liked the GS4 you'd probably like the G3 but it wasn't that great an upgrade. Still though, its logical to get the G3 if your S4 is broken as its pretty much an S4 with more up to date components and an LG logo on it.
Thanks for the input ! I did buy a G3 and will set it up this weekend. I will look into the ROM you mentioned too.
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I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.
Aalendi said:
I wish I'd seen this sooner. I'd have steered you clear of the G3. Biggest piece of garbage unless you're running boring stock. Even the CM team can't figure out how to make a stable ROM for it... And they've been at it for over a year! Bluetooth audio will never be right, Bluetooth LE will stop working altogether and you'll experience major network connectivity issues... All on day one and with any of the custom ROMs out there. It seems that the LG is so proprietary that nothing can control it aside from the boring, bloated, ugly and battery eating stock.
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Thanks for the opinion, but I have to say I'm loving my D851.
I rooted it and installed TWRP straight out of the gate, so that I could make some changes I wanted to (such as uninstalling T-Mobile specific system apps, not needed for me on ATT), but I never even needed to change out the ROM. The phone works great on the stock ROM (minus a few things I manually debloated), and doesn't feel bloated or laggy. I didn't even bother to install the Cloudy ROM (debloated stock).
I did install the Google Now launcher, because I wasn't a fan of the stock UI. I like the things Google Now brings to the table and it cleaned up the UI.
After the first few days I stopped playing around with the phone because everything works great. Bluetooth to my car, no problem, great WIFI antenna and Cell receptivity as compared to my Galaxy S4. Nice screen, battery life is outstanding...
Loving the phone.
Can't disagree with Aalendi more. I've had the 851 for almost 18 months and running SR Lolly V6 - Final on it for the past 6 months. Works perfectly and even though I'm tempted from time to time to "upgrade" to another phone, I cannot find enough differences out there to warrant it. Android 6 is already emerging and I'm waiting to upgrade the ROM when I feel its almost glitch-free (which it's not at the moment. I think you made a fine decision. JM2C
Manual debloat?
I am sorta/kinda new to the ROM party and am able to install TWRP and flash/root my D851. However, I went back to the stock ROM because of Wi-Fi calling and more stable network connectivity than 3rd-party ROMS. My question to you is what do you mean by 'manual debloat'? Is that a function of TWRP or simply removing/disabling apps? Thanks.
Manual de-bloat refers to you being able to remove programs that carriers or manufacturers install on your phone when you first purchase it. Rooting your phone allows you to do this yourself.

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