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HTC Touch / Elf / P3450 ?

Is there going to be a section for the HTC Touch/elf soon? It was released yesterday. http://www.htctouch.com
I just ordered mine
Can't wait for it to get here.

OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy

Questions...
indeed I have a lot of questions
first congratulations for getting this awesome device so fast. I think of buying it because it's nearly of the same size as my HTC S620 Excalibur smartphone but I have NO experience in PPCs...
So here we go
1. how is the battery life
(I know it will last a while until you can say something significant)
2. how much memory is available
(internal user Flash and RAM) - on my S620 I have installed nearly everything I regularly need on the phone since it has 66MB of user flash available)
3. Can you run TomTom on it?
4. any software issues with installing third party programs
5. how is the screen?
good readable in direct sunlight?
6. how is the screen protection?
Is it soft as a usual touch screen or hard as a mobile phone screen?
Is it possible to mount a screen protector without losing "touch control"?
7. how is the loudspeaker?
loud and clear enough for navigation in car?
8. Do you have the possibility to compare the speed with a standard smartphone?
That's it for the first - maybe to come more if I have forgotten something
Thanks in advance for your answers
and habe a lot of fun with your new toy

Hi!
I will try and answer your questions as accurately as possible, but bear in mind I have only had this device for a little over 12 hours, and I had to sleep at some point during those hours.
1. Battery life so far is good. HTC state battery life should be 5 hours talk and 200h standby and I think this is quite accurate.
When I got it it was partially charged. I charged it for an hour or 2 (while using it) and used it heavily after that, around 4 hours of bluetoothing, wifi and camera. This morning the battery is at 57%. I'm quite happy with that, considering I have not even given it even 1 full charge/discharge cycle.
2. 128MB of ROM and 64MB of RAM. 32.5MB Free out-of-box. It comes with a 1gb microSD but I've already upgraded to 2gb.
3. Yep, TomTom is one of the first things I installed
4. No software issues so far, but I have only installed a couple of games and Spb GPRS Monitor. My one gripe software-wise is that there is no 'Internet Calling', no built-in voip.
5. The screen is great. Really clear, crisp and readable. The WM6 image they have has cleartype (no tuning application, mind)
6. Screen protection is not great. The screen itself is flush to the phone, there is no recess like other touch-screen devices. While this makes it look great, and makes it easy to touch buttons on the edge, it also makes it very scratchable. Luckily the phone comes with a nice little HTC case. The case is a snug fit, not big or obtrusive, no straps, loops or anything. It is a spongy material with soft interior. I am not using a screen protector because the case will do just fine. The screen protector that's included with the device looks like it would fit well and go almost unnoticed but I am a bit reluctant to put it on because you already have to be very 'positive' with the screen to get it to react. This is by no means a bad thing, by the way. Overall, it feels good to use.
7. I have yet to properly test the loudspeaker. I gave tomtom a quick blast and from what I heard, I think it would be fine in a car.
8. Well I have moved to this device from a HTC hermes. Yes, there is a difference in speed but I personally dont find it a problem. I would consider myself a bit more than a casual PDA user (if that makes any sense). I use it for work, surfing, gaming and obviously phone calls/sms and I dont have a problem with the speed. I think this is possibly an unfair comparison however, as something that may take 5 seconds on a hermes could take 10 on the Touch -- but the hermes would have crashed half way
The only smartphone I have really had experience with is the N91. I found the N91 so slow I had to get rid of it. I'm keeping the Touch
Hope this has cleared a few things up.

VOIP
Is it possible to run programs like skype for VOIP on the HTC touch?
And how is the quality of the camera and music?
Thanks

How's the Cube Touch interface?
alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
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Hi alanp23. Firstly congrats on your new HTC Touch. I love the flush look of this baby and would much prefer this over any i-phone wanna be PDA.
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
I found my old overclocked HTC Prophet outperformed my 400Mhz Hermes. Fancy that!!
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
This would be greatly appreciated by the xda community as we could try and see if it would be possible to run on other devices.
I doubt very much if it will run on the Athena, but we're all willing to give it a run.
What do you say? Up for it? Thanks if you are and I understand if you're not.
Either way, enjoy your new toy, it looks fab.
P.S. If your using TomTom and haven't checked out an alternative, you simply must have a look at the repackaged version of iGo My Way GPS software known as MioMap v3.2 with the Quicksilver Map. It's far better and more accurate than TomTom and much more configurable. Also, it takes up much less space on your device.

alanp23 said:
Hi!
Hope this has cleared a few things up.
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YES!
Thank you very much - I can't wait to come back home from my business trip to order a TOUCH! Great!!! Better than expected so far.

mackaby007 said:
... making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software?
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there is a touch.dll as well as I heard...

r0p3 said:
there is a touch.dll as well as I heard...
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Please do share where and what exactly you have learnt in relation to this.
I can just see some of the programmers here hacking and improving on it somehow so the rest of us can benefit from it. That would be cool.

Don't get the information lost, please use this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310624 to talk about dumping the HTC Touch. We must get together to get it.

mackaby007 said:
Hi alanp23. Firstly congrats on your new HTC Touch. I love the flush look of this baby and would much prefer this over any i-phone wanna be PDA.
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
I found my old overclocked HTC Prophet outperformed my 400Mhz Hermes. Fancy that!!
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
This would be greatly appreciated by the xda community as we could try and see if it would be possible to run on other devices.
I doubt very much if it will run on the Athena, but we're all willing to give it a run.
What do you say? Up for it? Thanks if you are and I understand if you're not.
Either way, enjoy your new toy, it looks fab.
P.S. If your using TomTom and haven't checked out an alternative, you simply must have a look at the repackaged version of iGo My Way GPS software known as MioMap v3.2 with the Quicksilver Map. It's far better and more accurate than TomTom and much more configurable. Also, it takes up much less space on your device.
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me too me too

mackaby007 said:
As your no newbie to PPC's, you'll undoubtedly be aware that you can overclock the TiOmap processor to about 240- 260Mhz without issue.
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Any threads I can read regarding this?
mackaby007 said:
Anyway...cut to the chase. I know you have hardly had your device for a few minutes, but would you mind making your ROM/extended ROM visible and seeing if there is a cab file for the Cube Touch software? If you are able to extract it and upload it here or to the Athena forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310459
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And again Any threads I can read? I have never dumped a ROM before -- only flashed one. I am willing to try it an even spend a little time trying to get a working cab together for you guys. I am a software engineer and although I dont code for PDAs I'm sure I can work out how this works.
Thanks.

alanp23 please check your P. Messages please

alanp23 said:
Hi!
4. ... My one gripe software-wise is that there is no 'Internet Calling', no built-in voip.
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Does this mean that I won't be able to use the VoIP "tweak" in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950 ?
If thats true then it really sucks ;-(

Touch rom dump
I am very interested in a full rom dump of touch, alanp23 if you can make this...
Thanks

FAMAN said:
I am very interested in a full rom dump of touch, alanp23 if you can make this...
Thanks
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look over there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1303808#post1303808
walstoned just did it

alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy
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Tried it, but the url I see is : http://www.accuweather.com/us/fl/na...recast.asp?partner=accuweather&u=1&traveler=1
Does not match up to anything I see to modify.
Anyone else get this to work? I love the new home page, but miss weather panel now.

I cheated and found it by using a firefox plugin... it worked for me
The addon/plugin is called "forecastfox" https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/398
Seems to work fine in FF v3
Enjoy!

alanp23 said:
OK, I have received my HTC Touch! It really is as amazing as it looks. Any questions or comments post here.
The only little problem I have had is the weather app. does not have a town close enough to me but I've solved that.
Here's what I did:
Go here http://www.accuweather.com/us-city-list.asp?zipcode=&u=1&partner=accuweather and find the weather page for your city/state/county. Take a look at the URL, on the end, you should see something like:
locCode=EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI|&u=1
(Helsinki is already in the weather file, this is just an example!)
Take a note of this.
The file we need to edit is read-only, and I can't see a way of editing it via activesync/windows. I just got a load of write-protect errors. I got a tool called TotalCommander, it's a freeware file viewer/editor for the PPC.
In TotalCommander, navigate to \Windows\ and open HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml
Once you're inside this file all you need to do is copy an existing entry and make sure you put in the corresponding weather data from the step above.
Ex.
<city name="Helsinki, FI" locationcode="EUR|FI|FI002|HELSINKI"/>
Easy
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hey thanks for the that, i have my code as AFR|ZA|SF009|POLOKWANE. it works on the website but it give me "Unable to retrieve data for selected city when i use the today plugin on my touch.

weather plugin
I can't edit this file - HH_0409_WeatherCities.xml - because it is in ROM. I can edit it on PC but I can't overwrite it on the older version. Any idea?
Thanks

Ideas for B&B version 4.2

I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers

pna said:
I know that 4.1 is only just out & I think it's brilliant. I'm spending every evening checking new posts and playing with my phone like never before. So, before the 4.1 thread becomes the next thread with 1200 posts, I thought I'd start a new thread for ideas for 4.2
Tom - before I found the magic that is B&B I was using Wisbar Advance desktop and an application called innesoft address book which had a great feature that when someone called you, their photo was displayed full screen with their name (see thumbnails) rather than just the standard windows window.
Any chance you could devlelop something similar for 4.2 !!!
Cheers
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Here is something that may hold you over, I am still trying to figure out how to use the caller id without the actual slide to unlock, bit here is something to tide you over, jsut a thought

Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers

Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.

kakainis said:
Anybody knows if it is legal to include trial versions of apps in cooked rom?
Was thinking rom with included sktools, english dictionary of some kind, IM+, resco explorer, spb gprs monitor included on rom would save time and space. Apps included would be trial versions and ppl haveing bought them could just enter activation keys/serials, others could buy app if thy liked it.
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This would be a waste of time and energy for most, these Roms are made to be efficient, the least amount of space used so that you as an individual can place your desired programs, once a rom is built there is no removing/uninstalling of any apps, hence the reason to not put trial versions into a rom, I use several of the above mentioned, but to "Bloat" a rom with them would be ineffecient. Best thing to do is install on your sd card, keep all your initial install cabs in one folder and use that as your rebuild folder. Cheers.

Juice05 said:
Have a pretty much full screen keyboard for texting in landscape mode? The text appears at the top?
Is there a way we can assign a button to lock the phone rather than go thruogh the menu?
Cheers
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This may assist you in this matter, Cheers.

...
Is it not worth remembering that everyone has a different list of killer apps they MUST have on their device?
If Tom & Meschle etc added every app - the rom would only just fit on a 40gb hard disk!!!
To my mind - the idea is that the cooked roms are a basis onto which you install your own apps to make your own device work?
Constanlty asking for new apps to be added to a rom just complicates the issue. Or am I wrong?

something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete

automated network setup like in the O2 WM6 Premium 1.0 WWE rom

Extended timers & alarms application
I'd like to avoid installing SpbTime on each version
Great job!

OK, i agree, rom should be as slim as possible, but why the hell there is cube, psshutXP, PHM regedit/traylaunch, and office mobile on it then?
Could make an ultra lite wersion. (=
P.S. Dont get me wrong, i think 4.1 is great and it is a lot faster than O2. Just throwing around ideas about how to make it better.

with my original post, I was not really asking for a copy of the app, just would like a much bigger photo to pop up with caller id and liked the look of the inesoft one.
Tom - what do you think?

Just trying to make the ROM easier to use, more efficient.
B&B 4.1 is far better than original ROM from this point of view
TouchFlo for example helps to have everything we need with a single finger move..
Phone app is a lot more usable also.
Perhaps also the possibility to customize HTC Home by default, with more options (number of apps in the launcher, ..)

i don't think that is constructive to add as much apps, i can imagine, when it's released, everbody is shouting "this is not good" and "why did you use this app and not the other one"...and so one. I like it clear, not too much apps...but that's my opinion.
If i want it with all apps included then i start (to learn ) cooking my own ROM... IMHO i am very satisfied with the work that Tom is doing for us all. And 4.1 is just released. Enjoy it and let Tom make a break. He is hard working all the time!

Plugins for new version
Alarms extension (SpbTime style)
USB PenDrive emulator (WMstorage style)
Phone call recording (Audio Recorder style)
Thanks for B&B! Great job!

i have a great idea
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.

Improving File access
What I would like to see is the File Dialog Changer, I don't know who has heard of it but it is very good! Usually when you want to save files or open them in any application you get access to you My Documents folder. Only some smart apps like TCPMP and others have the option to access your entire pda.
File Dialog Changer changes the way you access your files in opening and saving them for every application, it's just 50 KB and you can activate / deactivate it in System Settings.
bbracer16valver said:
something so i can remotly use my desktop via PPC
then im complete
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And about your wish I can only say that there is already Remote Desktop for WM6, I think I've downloaded it in the Wizard forum. Or use PocketVNC, that is the pda version for VNC. I am successfully using that with TightVNC on my computer. I just have to be in range of my WLAN and can turn on my computer by sending a wake on lan signal (not with vnc) and then access my computer through pocketvnc or access the files on my computer.

neilhhardy said:
Why dont we support Tom and all off his hard work and all the other wizards here, and stop complaining or asking for more.
like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop.
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Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop

brainstorming said:
Thread is: Ideas for B&B version 4.2, nothing to do with sweet shop
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I think he had a point though. In the whole thread there is not one message of Tom Codon himself. Did you ask what he thinks? Maybe he has a few ideas of his own? After all, it will be his ROM...

Who says it will be B&B v4.2? Why not 4.3 or 5.0? If there will be another version let him take care of the numbers.

What are the odds of getting Dutty's latest ROM without built-in Diamond TF3D Config

I love the new ROM but still having slowness issues with Diamond TF3D Config.
What are the odds that Dutty would make his ROM and leave that off so we could add it as we wish?
Any possibility?
Thanks,
Mark

Post in his ROM release thread, might be able to make you a cab? I am interested too.

orangecrush said:
I love the new ROM but still having slowness issues with Diamond TF3D Config.
What are the odds that Dutty would make his ROM and leave that off so we could add it as we wish?
Any possibility?
Thanks,
Mark
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I havent seen any slowness using tf3d config in rom, but if majority counts to leave it out i could no in future
PS Please post in my thread if you got questions releated to my roms instead of creating a new thread

lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.

sushilange said:
lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.
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agree!
regards,
markus

2x Agree!!!
It's complete non-sense...
But besides that, this kind of issues should be raised inside the "Diamond TF3D config" thread, because if there was an issue with this application, it had to do with the aplication itself and not with the rom...
HastaSSSS

s1rl4ncel0t said:
2x Agree!!!
It's complete non-sense...
But besides that, this kind of issues should be raised inside the "Diamond TF3D config" thread, because if there was an issue with this application, it had to do with the aplication itself and not with the rom...
HastaSSSS
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But if the application is built into the ROM and therefore ends up running, then the end problem is the same.
duttythroy said:
PS Please post in my thread if you got questions releated to my roms instead of creating a new thread
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Sorry, I just didn't want to clutter up your thread with other questions....
sushilange said:
lol, it is not possible that the rom is slowlier only because my tool is installed. That makes no sense. Just installing an app which is not running in background has no effect to the speed of your device.
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I beg to differ. If you read your thread, there were a couple of others that noticed it.
And on top of that... I installed the 1.3 or 1.4 ROM and had no issues. The moment I installed the TF3D configuration, I had a pause everytime I could hit contacts in the contact app.
I tried to uninstall it and it wouldn't work so I installed the new 1.93 ROM from HTC. I had no hesitation.
I then reinstalled Dutty's 1.5 and immediately had the same hesitation.
The program is great and perhaps it's just me but everytime I install it I have a hesitation.
I'm about to install ver 1.4 so we'll see if it works again....
Mark

Opps, can't.... version 1.4 has it also.
I'll play around and see....
Thanks,
Mark

ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.

sushilange said:
ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.
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It may be impossible but check out post 556 and 559 on your thread.... there's two more people having the same problem. I'm not dissing your work at all.... I think the software is fantastic, I'm just making sure I'm not the only one having a problem and if I am, I want to fix it.
Now, on to something else you said... I DID install a theme when I originally installed it. However, I've installed it since then with no themes and still find it sluggish.
I just reinstalled a completely different ROM (Diamond Project) just to see if I would have a problem. The problem is still there and I just noticed that it has the TF3D program built into it.
I'll try some other ROMs and see if that changes it.
Thanks,
Mark

sushilange said:
ehm...only chaning the theme makes manila a bit slow and maybe some tweaks are making some devices slow.
But NOONE has the issue, that just after installing my tool or just after running and exiting my tool the device got slowlier. It is absolutely impossible.
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I found out what the problem is.... You were right. It's not the TF3D program making it slow, it's actually when you hit the second tab (what is it, people?) and then hit all people.
There is a delay before pulling up a contact list.
Tonight I've installed 4 different ROMS and until I installed the last one which actually has "contact" in place of "phone" in the phone app, I realized if you click on contact, your contacts come up IMMEDIATELY.
If you hit people and then click on "all people" to pull up contacts, it DRAGS out. Each ROM has a different speed on pulling up the contacts but nonetheless, it's the damn TF3D software from HTC, not the TF3D config program you made.
My apologies, I was wrong and you were right... I'm starting to understand why so many people don't like the memory hog TF3D interface.
Looks cool but what a slow PIA.
Thanks, just thought I'd let you know....
Mark

When I first read this thread I thought surely you are confusing TouchFLO 3D itself with the TF3D Config utilty! You do realise TouchFLO 3D is simple to disable? Just got to Start>Settings>Today>Items and uncheck TouchFLO 3D.

logger said:
When I first read this thread I thought surely you are confusing TouchFLO 3D itself with the TF3D Config utilty! You do realise TouchFLO 3D is simple to disable? Just got to Start>Settings>Today>Items and uncheck TouchFLO 3D.
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Yes sir, I did know you can disable it. It's just that I didn't notice it was sluggish until I added the config program so I assumed (yeah, I know....lol) that was the problem.
All is well now.
Thanks,
Mark

Tasks on lock screen app

I was looking for some sort of a solution of this with no luck, any tips welcome.
Basically what I was looking for was an app or a tweak which would show TASKS on the lock screen (the screen when phone is locked and you have to use for example a slider (Miri rom) to open it) since there is so much empty space and there is no reasonable way to put the tasks on Today screen.
Any ideas and tips very much appreciated.

hmm, i think S2U2 is capable of doing this. it is a free screen locking application.
according to the changelog here:
http://htcwinmobile.blogspot.com/2009/06/acs-s2u2-v201.html
it is capable of doing it, but i've just had a quick look in the applications settings (i have it installed) and can't seem to find the option, but it would be worth a try

S2U2 does show tasks icon the lock screen but it is only a figure(how many tasks are scheduled). If you use the appointments these will show as full descriptions, until completed, and you can have up to 7 appointments over a number of weeks (I think its about 4 weeks).Really good and I have no problems on Duttys Rom 6.5 R11

thanks for the handy pointers, will give it a try.

hmm, so I've tried that and I'm not very impressed. I'm not particularly keen on the whole S2U2, seems a bit cumbersome and overall like an "i" wannabe... there is somewhat the option of displaying the tasks on the lockscreen but as far as I'm concerned there is no way of removing the whole S2U2 interface and keeping just the tasks..which is, ultimately, what I'd want.
Thanks for the tip anyway but don't think this is gonna work.
Can't believe I'm the only one trying to get this sorted(!), it is such a fundamental thing to see tasks frequently without having to access something..even my old N95 did that right.
Anyway, if anyone knew about something, give us a shout.
Cheers
Z.

For years (!) I wanted to have my tasks on todayscreen (and/or on lock screen). I never understood why this was possible only on oldschool-WinMobile-todayscreen WITH special programs (SPB Diary). I believe it's a BASIC feature - and like you I asked myself if really noone needs this?
After getting my new Touch HD I love to have a stylish todayscreen - but I hate not to see appointments/tasks (neither with manila nor winmobile 6.5-today).
So if there is ANY solution: YES I want it too!

I could have probably lived with S2U2 as long as the tasks would be at least showing by themselves rather than you having to press & hold on the icon
...that's like as close it gets to the desired result...future s2u2 update might fix that but again, you have to get the whole app (for locking) to get this small, though very important feature... kinda disappointing...

I`d also like having task on today or lock screen as old non colour Windows CE devices did. Why had disappeared? I don´t know and I can´t understand. I hope somebody can help us.

I want it too please. I would like something like Lockinfo for the iphone.

whats going on here

Hi all,
please excuse the vagueness of this post.
I have just been given a tp2 as a replacement to my td2
My wife also has the tp2 which she got a year ago
the whole look of the phone (software ) is totally diferent
for instance the program page used to list a few progs (your choice) and then you had to hit all progs to get them up.
i am guessing that its a different rom or different version of sense?
also how do i change/edit/remove some programs from the list?
cheers guys

you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.

thanks for that
sorry to be thick but does that just enable me to move the prog icons or delete the progs as well
appreciate the help

thesyntax said:
you'll need a registry editor to get the job done here, you can find that in the Theme's and apps section, i'll be back with a link, but you have to navigate to --
HKLM\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu
and where you see
EnableManilaStartMenu = 1
change the one to a zero and restart the phone, should work.
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You don't need to edit the registry to turn off Manila. This is easily done from the Today settings.

hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks

stringman said:
hi got a regedit prog
but i gat as far as
HKLM\Software\HTC\
but cant see enlarge menu
also on the today screen there is no mention of manilla jut htc sense
all i really want to do is lose all the stupid pre loaded progs
thanks
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Different issues, my friend. Sense is the UI (aka Manila versions 2.1 and 2.5) you see when you start the phone. It is on by default, but you can turn it off in the Today setup and use the much less memory intensive standard Window Mobile screen. Go into the Today setup and turn off Sense by removing the check mark in the list and putting a check mark on Windows Default.
As for the bloatware that comes with the phone, anything on the ROM can not be removed except by flashing a new ROM. You can delete shortcuts from your start menu for programs you don't/won't use, but the programs will still be there. Do a search for Crud Scraper, a neat little tool that can 'remove' stuff from specific phone models (it worked great on my Tilt 2). Beyond that, read up as much as you can on modding your phone. This place is a great resource. Unfortunately, easy answers are hard to come by. You have to roll up your sleeves and get a little dirty.