i need help guys
last night i upgraded my rom to wm6 and I'd inputted a password then when i woke up i turned on my phone then it is looking for the password
when I'd inputted the password it doesn't work and i'd tried the hard reset and soft reset it still doesn't work. I notice the clock turns to 12 well i guess the hard reset kinda work but my phone is lock and i can't see the home page
And I noticed there's a timer..., so guys pls help me i want to remove the password..., what should i do?
welcome to the forum!
ok, you made several mistakes there:
1. you obviously started flashing without reading first, now you have to spend double the time and effort reading and fixing afterwards! (happens to a lot of people though, don't worry)
2. you opened a new thread (in the wrong section, this belongs in "upgrading") for a problem, that has been solved dozens of times before.
but never the less i will try and explain the problem to you:
as you may have realized, wm6 is completely different from wm2003, you have to do things differently, like the hard reset, and instead of a proper bootscreen you have that 4-coloured screen. those are effects caused by the fact that this device is not actually meant for wm5 or above. flashing a cooked rom is not like buying a new device with the new os on it, so there are a few things to get used to.
one of those things is to never set a password. the password is not properly saved in the device and that is why you can successfully set a password, but never type it in again. it would say, the password is wrong, because internally it is changed to something else.
if a soft reset or hard reset could delete the password, it would not really be a theft protection, would it?
that is why you have to flash the rom again, or a different one, that is up to you, but with a clean flashing and cleaning the registry hive and formatting the storage, the password is gone and you should refrain from setting a new one, because any password will fail with any cooked rom here. if you want to protect your device, there are great 3rd party applications to do that, you should search the forum and also google.
which is a good advice in general, you might also want to do that the next time you do something, you have never done before and that might be harmful
since you are apparently rather unexperienced with the entire subject, you might want to have a look at the wiki wizard to guide you through the process of proper flashing, because maybe there is more, that you missed out and you are heading for the next chaotic situation: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardMain
i know i missed a lot with my first few flashes
with best regards,
Chef_Tony
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Hello,
I was wondering if i can somehow make a rom off of a running phone....
Basically here is my thinking...
I have a tilt (kaiser), and i want to setup something like sprite terminator (possibly something else) on it as well as some other apps, once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone..... that way should anyone ever steal my phone even if they did a hard reset it would only flash back to my rom and therefore my terminator already be setup again....
asjeep said:
Hello,
I was wondering if i can somehow make a rom off of a running phone....
Basically here is my thinking...
I have a tilt (kaiser), and i want to setup something like sprite terminator (possibly something else) on it as well as some other apps, once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone..... that way should anyone ever steal my phone even if they did a hard reset it would only flash back to my rom and therefore my terminator already be setup again....
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Your cooked rom will be always there even with hard reset
asjeep said:
Hello,
once it is all customized the way i like it, i want to backup the device into a rom, then use it to flash my phone.....
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Sort of - you can extract a ROM from an HTC device but, as said above, it won't include any changes made by you after hardreset. All it will do is to take the ROM that sets up Windows, etc. for you. It will only do the same job if you then take that ROM and install it on the same device or elsewhere.
What you probably want to do get a kitchen and cook in these apps. In most cases you can also cook in all your personal settings for those programs and for windows itself.
If you go far enough into cooking kitchens, you'll eventually be able to make a ROM which is, after a hard reset, already set up precisely the way it would be if you hard reset and install all your apps and change all of the setting both in Control Panel items and in your apps. All that could be there smiling at you after a hard reset as you want it to be, but you'll have to cook a ROM to make it so.
Another option is to use an auto-installer for cabs, although that would only make setup easier and can be circumvented pre soft resetting before the installs kick off so it wouldn't have the security of having your name and theft-prevention software already set up.
In my case, my Hermes does come completely setup with all my preferred windows and apps settings, as if I'd spent hours setting up after a hard reset. Mostly this is done by a big cab in Preconfig and most settings in the ROM's registry from cooking with a rgu file. A big one.
(I'm working - albeit slowly - on some simple tools that can help in creating one's own single, personal OEM to add into a kitchen and has all of your settings and apps in it. I just need to work out how to automate some cabwiz functions that currently I'm using some expensive-ish software for which I can't expect others to buy. Can't give out my own 'big cab' even to help as an example I'm afraid as it's got all kinds of paid-for or private stuff in and it'll take ages to unpick. Should I not get this simple tool going as I want, I'll probably just write a page on wiki or something as it's still easier than going through the whole process of cooking in many apps and your windows folder wil be much, much cleaner and your phone a lot faster if you do it this way.)
Great thanks so much for all the help.... BTW tried sprite and it only caused my tilt to not download emails from exchange so it came off and time for another hard reset
Hi,
I've flashed my HTC Tytn a couple of times, with a "slim" wm6 in order to get rid of all the operator related stuff. Everything went fine, until 2 days after, the PDA jamed, i soft reset it, and when it started up, it asked me to align the screen. It was completly empty (same thing as a hard reset).
Then, i flashed the latest TNT series ROM to it, and, next day, same thing.
But today i've seen what happened. When i clicked the start button, it only showed the "recent programs" list. I soft reseted it, and, align the screen, once again.
This is really anoying.... any ideas?
Thanks in advance. Any kind of help appreciated....
This has been discussed in many threads.
you will need to flash a manufacturers rom (AT&T seems the best) and then flash your rom of choice.
it is best to flash via activesync, not sd card.
if it continues to cause problems, then let us know.
Oh... ok! I'll try that..
Thanks,
Fonzi
I'm pretty new to the world of windows mobile, my Diamond is the first WM device I've ever had and I must say I wish I had one earlier! (xda-dev forum is my homepage now )
Being that I'm a newbie to all this I wanted to ask a few questions so that I have this all clear in my head before I go and brick my phone :\
From what I have read, I been able to gather the following (and PLEASE correct me if this isn't the case):
-Loading a ROM on your device is essentially like 'imaging' a PC? (ala ghost or something) including the 'formatting' of the devices
-Hard resetting the device is like formatting and reinstalling the LAST loaded rom.
I also have a quick question
-Am I able to dump my current ROM so that if I don't like another ROM I can always go back to it? and if yes will this rom include the installed programs/data/etc or will I need to reinstall those after?
Sorry if these are stated in other threads, I did search but I may not have known what to look for.
Thanks!
basically yes, the rom is the image. a hard reset is more of a full reboot/retore default setting knida thing. it does not go through the format and re install process. as for dump, search a bit more on how to do that. you can find stock roms all over these forums so you don't really need to, but it can be a good decision if you need to return to the factory.
I've read lots of comments, these very unwanted random hard-resets are suppose to be a common bug, however the suggested fixes dont seem to work for me, anyone else having the same issue?
Note: The issue must be software related, it only started happening to me immediately after a ROM update a few months back.
What usually happens:
- Install a ROM -> Configure It -> Install Apps... all looks good
- At some random point (could be days or weeks) the phone will lock up (usually on the password screen)
- A soft reset is required to rectify the lock-up
(i.e. the red button on back of phone)
- Phone hard-resets itself
Suggested Solutions:
1) Upgrade to HardSPL 1.93 - made no difference
2) I have tried running MTTY a few times, also no difference
3) Try different ROM's, I thought it might be just a bug with the WWE ROM, but it happens with the Energy ROM too
Just out of interest:
Interestingly, my wifes phone, which I do exactly the same updates on (same phone, same ROM, same Radio, etc), is working completely fine...
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
businello2000 said:
Hi
i had the same problem...for solve the problem, just flash the stock rom...you can download from htc website...than you can flash any rom you like and everytjing will work fine.
for any help just ask!
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Hi, thanks for suggestion, although yep I tried that too. There is no stock ROM for an imported phone on Optus, but I just used the stock Telstra one that was on the forums, then after a while went back to the WWE ROM, and the same issue still occurs.
No other ideas for resolving the hard reset issues?
Next time it happens, I might try pulling the battery out instead of using the reset button on the back of the phone.. but clearly something is wrong :-/
i have had this a couple of times, about 6 months ago and last week. i just flashed a different ROM, flashing the same one again didnt help, so just downloaded a different one and went with that.
seems to be ok now
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
matrix77 said:
flash this rom and do a hard reset after flashing:
http://uploading.com/files/WY03RBG2/Stock rom noSPL no Radio.rar.html
I've also posted the same link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4057376&postcount=3
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Thanks again for suggestions so far, but above fix only lasted about 5 days before another intermittent phone crash & subsequent hard reset, much the same as I have had experimenting with a range of stock and other ROM's :-/
I don't think the fix is as simple as just putting a Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset. Im pretty sure its a software problem, but I dont see how the problem can survive such rigorous formatting...
Is noone else having the problem? Sounds like most are solved with 1 use of MTTY.
I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
The only solution is:
1st MTTY and run task 29 to format the device to make it clean and no left over stuff from the last ROM.
2nd Install different ROM
If you have bad sectors in the device, MTTY might not help much here, I guess.
Hi maddie, yes you might be onto something, I assume you already tried the usual fixes: (Stock Rom -> Hard Reset -> MTTY -> New Rom -> Hard Reset)? You can tell it to format the NaviNAND during the hard reset.
I think my issue might be different to yours though, as mine does not happen 'when installing software' mine happens days/weeks after setting up the phone.. It usually goes down like this: I pull the phone out of my pocket -> its locked on the password screen usually (cant type) -> pull the battery out or press the soft-reset button -> bang.. phone hard-resets.
I will make 1 suggestion though, instead of using all the nice fancy mods, and SPB Mobile Shell (looks like sense ui), I went back to a boring old stock rom, and well after 1 month its still going.. I absolutely hate it, but I dont want to buy another phone quite yet, so gonna go old-skool.
Let me know how you go, and as above if you did all the standard suggestions? It sounds like you need to somehow instruct the phone not to use those bad memory spots, but ive no idea if such a tool exists im afraid.
maddie said:
I searched a lot and found your thread.
I was upgrading my friend's Diamond, when he tells me that it hard resets itself without a reason. At first I thought it was the ROM's problem, so I switched to another one. But after I flashed the ROM, during the process of setting up the phone (settings, softwares), at some random point of installing random software, the phone says that the software was not installed successfully. After several re-flash, re-install, and ROM switching, it appears to me it's not a software problem.
It seems that it's at some point when the internal storage (not the NaviNAND) reaches a specific size, the device would fail and hangs (or not, randomly, but you can't install anything further), after a soft-reset, it will hard resets itself instead, it looks like some "badblocks" (sort of) on the internal storage NAND to me.
Is there a way to figure out if my theory's correct? I'm wondering if there is any tool that can run some diagnose on the internal NAND. If I'm correct and there is tool that can do so, it must have the ability to mask the bad pages on the NAND, right?
EDIT: There's a way to re-produce the situation. Just download some big apps (several MBs big) and install them in order. It will almost always hang at the same point.
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I got the same problem recently and I am still trying different way to solve it.
My Hard-reset happen:
After flashing new rom -> Installation of software ->
-> launching programs -> when some got may holding or loading without response
-> Soft-reset (red bottom) -> It automatically Hard-reset....
Similar thinking with you, I think that maybe one of those reasons leading the hard reset:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
kenleekwanho said:
1. Device got bad sector while flashing for different roms;
2. New Radios got bug and crash with the new version of roms;
3. Too many things stored in Internal Storage;
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I like this logic, im in the position of owning 2 HTC Diamonds with identical ROM, Radio, Applications, 1 works perfectly, 1 is resetting.
It 'probably' indicates that its hardware related, I doubt its Radio (due to the other phone working fine), so could be Internal Storage or Bad Sector.
Im not even close to filling up my internal storage though, so if its storage related, perhaps a particular sector is the problem (like maddie was mentioning).
Thanks for all your opinions!
It's the first time for me to think it's the Radio's problem. It comes to me now it seems this situation starts when I flashed the 1.15.25.14 radio. I will try another radio and update here.
I dont 'think' its Radio, but worth a shot.
I cant consistently reproduce my issue, so it could take me a month to find out if ive fixed the issue.. and there are a lot of variables in a month. But sounds like you have a way of reproducing it consistently, gl.
OK, it doesn't seem to work. I think that's it..
Maybe I should start looking at the bootloader commands..
ive got the same issue, but only with some ROMs, for example, the AZTOR X3 and GEN.Y D2 didnt work, but gen.y 1.4 worked for me.
I tried MTTY method to re-flashing, it seems fine to my diamond right now.
i have the same problem, i have tried about 10 different roms, but i don't think it's software related, i think it might be the phone overheating causing a faulty component, it started 2 days ago for me and usually after 5-10 min it crashes, and it started happening when the weather heated up and it will crash quicker if i try to charge it, anyone notice this?
Has anyone found a solution to this?
For me it started when I installed the Gen Y rom with the android dual booter (but not android itself). I have tried MTTY, Stock ROM but Im still experiencing the problem. I suspect it has something to do with the dual boot.
I get the same thing. soft reset = hard reset.
I have tried several ROMs but now the phone hangs on the loading screen
OK, I searched and could find quite what I was looking for.
I have a new, factory fresh TP2 from Sprint. I'd like to create a reinstall disc so if I screw something up, I could reinstall back to factory and start over again.
Is there a program that does this for me or is it something I have to hack alot to do?
I'm new to the TP but I've been using an Axim for years. Now that I have this new Smartphone, I'd like to play around a bit with the cooked ROMs out there for the PDA and maybe eventually do it to the phone too. But, right now I just want to have a backup of my phone and my PDA just in case.
Thanks
JohnMcD348 said:
OK, I searched and could find quite what I was looking for.
I have a new, factory fresh TP2 from Sprint. I'd like to create a reinstall disc so if I screw something up, I could reinstall back to factory and start over again.
Is there a program that does this for me or is it something I have to hack alot to do?
I'm new to the TP but I've been using an Axim for years. Now that I have this new Smartphone, I'd like to play around a bit with the cooked ROMs out there for the PDA and maybe eventually do it to the phone too. But, right now I just want to have a backup of my phone and my PDA just in case.
Thanks
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Well the good news is that just resetting your windows mobile install back to it's complete factory-new condition, all you have to do is what's known as "hard reset" (power+send+end), a simple procedure that's built in to the phone just for this type of scenario. The one drawback is that it takes you ALL the way back, so ANYTHING you've added to the phone since you first took it out of the box won't be retained.
Now, if you want to first install your most important programs, contacts, etc before creating the backup, use a 3rd-party program like SPB Backup to create a restorable backup copy of all that right to your storage card.
No, I just wanted to create a disc that would allow me to reset/reinstall everything back to factory just in case I should ever need it. I figure I'll eventually start playing with installing cooked ROMs and such and just wanted a safety balnket in case I don't like what happens.
Well, either of those methods will achieve the same thing, just depends on whether you want that "security blanket" to include anything other than the aboslute stock setup...
-If you do, the SPB backup works just like a backup disk, includes a self-reinstaller in the backups it makes.
-If you don't, then the hard reset is the same thing as a backup disk, just automated and built into the firmware.
Once you start playing with cooked ROM's, a hard reset will not restore the device to factory defaults; it will restore the device to the state it was in right after flashing the cooked ROM.
There is section specifically about flashing ROM's, and there's information there on how to restore to the original factory defaults. Start with reading these two topics: flahing cooked ROM; undo your cooking.
Oh right, I wasn't thinking about that, but yes, hard reset will only take you back to the stock of whatever ROM you have loaded. You obviously have already figured out how to undo it and get back to the Sprint stock if you want
I don't mean to sound rude, but you sound very "green". I would very strongly urge you to read every wiki and sticky on this forum before you ever consider playing around with your device.
If you play around without first educating yourself completely, your device can become a very pretty, very expensive paperweight...aka...a brick.
I have been with xda for a few years and have had a couple of devices, I recently got the TP2, and have spent the past almost 2 months reading and re-reading various tutorials and stickies and wiki's. My rom is still stock. This is not because I am a noob, it is because I am a noob with this device.
SPB backup or Sprite backup are about as close as you will come to a recovery disc for a ppc. As far as I know, there is no true recovery disc as you would have for a laptop recovery.
Also, before you consider trying out cooked roms, you will need to learn the unlocking process. Also using cooked roms, while 99.9% of the time are far superior to stock roms, may void any warranty you have.
So again, I strongly urge you to read, read, read...read until your eyes bleed, then read some more. Once you understand how the device works, then consider f**king around with it.
It would suck if you ended up bricking your device because you went from point A to point D without first stopping at B and C.
akashastrega said:
I don't mean to sound rude, but you sound very "green". I would very strongly urge you to read every wiki and sticky on this forum before you ever consider playing around with your device.
If you play around without first educating yourself completely, your device can become a very pretty, very expensive paperweight...aka...a brick.
I have been with xda for a few years and have had a couple of devices, I recently got the TP2, and have spent the past almost 2 months reading and re-reading various tutorials and stickies and wiki's. My rom is still stock. This is not because I am a noob, it is because I am a noob with this device.
SPB backup or Sprite backup are about as close as you will come to a recovery disc for a ppc. As far as I know, there is no true recovery disc as you would have for a laptop recovery.
Also, before you consider trying out cooked roms, you will need to learn the unlocking process. Also using cooked roms, while 99.9% of the time are far superior to stock roms, may void any warranty you have.
So again, I strongly urge you to read, read, read...read until your eyes bleed, then read some more. Once you understand how the device works, then consider f**king around with it.
It would suck if you ended up bricking your device because you went from point A to point D without first stopping at B and C.
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That I Am! and I make no bones about it. AS far as the idea of modding my PDA's go, I've never done it since I really kinda relied on them for the programs I carried at work(medical), I was afraid of bricking it. I'm new to modding but not to PDAs in general.
Now that I have my TP2 and have finally converged into a phone and PDA in 1, I now find myself with 2 Axims begging to be cooked. BUT! before I do that I want to have a backup.
Any and all advice you have is welcome. Please keep it coming.