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:?: Hello. I was wondering if anybody has had same problem as i have.
I work on my xdaIIs a fair bit away from home and as a result i need to recharge it every now and then. I have a usb charger cable that i use to charge it using other computers and also via a usb car charger pluggy thingy sorry cant remember name :lol:
The problem i have is that while i am charging my xdaIIs using this method the battery power starts running DOWN as if the power is being drained!!! The device is definately telling me its being recharged.
Please help... I have no idea what is going on???!!!
THANKYOU in advance. 8) :?
Depends what you are using to charge I had the same problem with a mini sync cable I bought sync'd fine but didnt charge but that because it was designed for an XDA not an XDA2 bought a new one from boxwave and its fine.
But certainly if your device is sufficiently drained it will be pulling more power that your PC's USB slot will be willing to give it so you could be running into that.
Novice Gadget Boy said:
The problem i have is that while i am charging my xdaIIs using this method the battery power starts running DOWN as if the power is being drained!!! The device is definately telling me its being recharged.
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I would guess that the charger doesn't supply sufficient current to actually charge the unit. I say this, because I have seen exactly the same thing (= orange light on and the battery power level decreasing fast) when I built my custom charger for XDAII. XDAII is very "picky" and needs a lot of power to charge and the "USB car charger", as you described it, probably can't supply enough.
Thanks for the reply guys.
It used to work when i first bought it but now doesnt.
Any ideas on what i could purchase that WOULD work??
I have had a similiar problem with a similiar charging setup, but mine charges fine as long as the battery level does not fall too low, if it gets below about 30% then it seems to decharge instead of charge... its really strange.
Cigarrete adaptor charger Draining mine too..
I had a Ipaq 2210 installed in the handle bars of my bike with a Holux BT GPS, recently after breaking 2 of them( IPAQS) I've replaced with a XDA IIs, I had a cigarrete adaptor for the IPAQs and another for powering the speakers... as now i can't use the speakers (due to the horrible 2.5 jack)I've modified the supplied connector for charging without the craddle to fit the connector for the speakers...
I realized from time to time the XDA turned it self off... and last travel it just died with the orange led on and battery 0%....
However first time I've used it was a 700km trip (paris - switzerland) and that time had no pbm (once or twice it turned off but that was all)
I've noticed that the supplied wall power adaptor is a 2Amp one... which looks like enourmous to me... but i tought that cigarrete adaptors were not amperage limited (but for your battery and generator/alternator)
One think I havent tried is to cut the Ipaq's one and fit the connector there... as the Ipaq uses the same wall power thing perhaps the cigarrete adaptor will be the same too....
Please any advice for me ??
I would also like to mod the suppplied connector into a usb stand alone sync cable (pls advise on it too....)
Also i would like to fit an Ipaq IR led onto the XDA to use it as remote for my digital rebel camera.... (advice again?)
Thanks in advance
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I have been trying to get hold of a working car charger for the Universal that would charge the phone while it is running navigational programs but to no avail.
If anyone has any for sale, do let me know.
vapor said:
I have been trying to get hold of a working car charger for the Universal that would charge the phone while it is running navigational programs but to no avail.
If anyone has any for sale, do let me know.
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The car charger costs barely $5 in china and on ebay. It can be purchased from anywhere. I use the car charger that i got with my Holux GPS reciever. I have a lot of car chargers. This is how they work. You plug in your USB cord into the car charger and the car charger goes into the cigarette lighter in the car. I am not selling mine. Go get one from ebay. Just search on ebay for USB car charger.
nuclear said:
The car charger costs barely $5 in china and on ebay. It can be purchased from anywhere. I use the car charger that i got with my Holux GPS reciever. I have a lot of car chargers. This is how they work. You plug in your USB cord into the car charger and the car charger goes into the cigarette lighter in the car. I am not selling mine. Go get one from ebay. Just search on ebay for USB car charger.
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I have done so and the thing, its either I'm having bad luck with them or there's something wrong with my phone. The best I ever got was that it charged the phone when it was OFF but when I switched it on, the charge disappears.
I tried using my GPS's car charger and another USB Car Charger as well but they both do not work and I do not know why.
I have spent so much searching for the right car charger which is why I am so desperate now just to get a second hand one that would definitely work.
vapor said:
I have done so and the thing, its either I'm having bad luck with them or there's something wrong with my phone. The best I ever got was that it charged the phone when it was OFF but when I switched it on, the charge disappears.
I tried using my GPS's car charger and another USB Car Charger as well but they both do not work and I do not know why.
I have spent so much searching for the right car charger which is why I am so desperate now just to get a second hand one that would definitely work.
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I think you'll find this has been discussed here before, try searching.
FYI, I used the charger from my Holux GPS, and whilst it works, it dosn't charge whilst using TomTom. If you try a long trip with this setup, you will find that the battery charge drops. This charger is good only for topping up the Uni whilst not in use. I use the genuine iMate charger and this does run TT and charge at the same time. You need the higher amperage of the iMate charger.
Mav
mavrik64 said:
I think you'll find this has been discussed here before, try searching.
FYI, I used the charger from my Holux GPS, and whilst it works, it dosn't charge whilst using TomTom. If you try a long trip with this setup, you will find that the battery charge drops. This charger is good only for topping up the Uni whilst not in use. I use the genuine iMate charger and this does run TT and charge at the same time. You need the higher amperage of the iMate charger.
Mav
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Nope, my car charger works fine in charging the Universal while in use and turned off. It just charges a bit slower while in use and thats quite an obious reason.
Only thing to consider is how much the output levels are of the car charger.
Thanks for your input guys
I have done my research on the car chargers and from my understanding, the only reason could be the shorting of pins 4 and 5, or something along those lines. Other than that, I have tried out various models of chargers and they do not work.
For those who say you need a higher output, I have tried those rated at 1000mAh which is that charger output for the wall unit. This charger connects to the USB cable yet even when I tried a couple of types of USB cables, it still did not charge the phone.
I also used a lower output of 850mAh and it worked fine with the cables tested abouve, so it shows the cable had no problem. But it could only charge the Universal when the phone was turned off. When switched on, the phone does not even charge, not even in the least bit and I am not sure why. Surely 850mAh is more than enough to get it charging while on the navigational (TomTom) programs because when I connect my Universal to my laptop to charge, I am still able to run TomTom and that charge is only rated at 500mAh.
Thus you can see why I am so frustrated with all these charges. If any of you are able to point me in the direction of getting an original chrager online, I would be more than grateful for your help and guidance. I also wouldn't mind buying a third-party charger as long as it works perfectly with the phone when running nagivational programs.
This is the one i have. works brilliantly, charges universal and BT GPS reciever and lets me use my copilot navigation software.
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/sp/searchbox13/products.asp?partno=MTCUSJASJR
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/T-Mobile-MDA-PRO-Handsfree-Custom-Car-Kit-with-speaker-pr-36.html
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Thanks for your input guys
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I also used a lower output of 850mAh and it worked fine with the cables tested abouve, so it shows the cable had no problem. But it could only charge the Universal when the phone was turned off. When switched on, the phone does not even charge, not even in the least bit and I am not sure why. .
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Well, I can only guess the 1000mAh you tried may have been defective???
My car charger is the iMate genuine car charger. This rated at 1000mAh and works great. It charges and runs TT6 no problem. (well, that was untill it packed up the other night so I'm sending back under warranty) But it did work great.
All the best
Mav
Poundland have a USB car adapter that works perfectly with your USB lead to charge the Exec - works fine on mine!
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Well, I can only guess the 1000mAh you tried may have been defective???
My car charger is the iMate genuine car charger. This rated at 1000mAh and works great. It charges and runs TT6 no problem. (well, that was untill it packed up the other night so I'm sending back under warranty) But it did work great.
All the best
Mav
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I thought that could be the case but it charges my GPSr fine so had to strike that one out.
wassa said:
This is the one i have. works brilliantly, charges universal and BT GPS reciever and lets me use my copilot navigation software.
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/sp/searchbox13/products.asp?partno=MTCUSJASJR
http://www.mdapro.co.uk/shop/xcart/T-Mobile-MDA-PRO-Handsfree-Custom-Car-Kit-with-speaker-pr-36.html
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Hi Wassa you se co pilot - so do i - so please can you tell me what onthe easy devices what you chose for the correct cable that will owrk with the bluetooth gps unit.
cheers mate - thanks for your help.
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re: car charging problems
just one thing to ask: are you a smoker?
I only say this because i use a usb car charger and it only charges faster than it drains if you are careful to blow/clean all the fag ash out of the socket in the car to get a good connection. Otherwise the charging led sometimes comes on but cant supply enough power to charge quicker than my universal drains its battery
mickey_jaw said:
just one thing to ask: are you a smoker?
I only say this because i use a usb car charger and it only charges faster than it drains if you are careful to blow/clean all the fag ash out of the socket in the car to get a good connection. Otherwise the charging led sometimes comes on but cant supply enough power to charge quicker than my universal drains its battery
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nah I do not smoke so I do not see why it should be happening.
mickey_jaw said:
just one thing to ask: are you a smoker?
I only say this because i use a usb car charger and it only charges faster than it drains if you are careful to blow/clean all the fag ash out of the socket in the car to get a good connection. Otherwise the charging led sometimes comes on but cant supply enough power to charge quicker than my universal drains its battery
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I never get ash in there. Its impossible to get ash in there unless you really want it there. You are supposed to use the knob and not stick your cig in there. lol
I have used a Belkin one, one that I bought for an iPod that has a standard USB socket you can plug any cable into, and a cheap ebay one.
They all work, BUT.. you have to plug them in when the device is off. Once the charge light comes on, you can turn it on, and it will charge, although slowly.
If you plug it in while the device is on, it will not start charging.
I don't know why this is, but considering it's the same on all 3 chargers, and I have seen people complaining about this on the Universal a few times, I think it's just the way things are.
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I have used a Belkin one, one that I bought for an iPod that has a standard USB socket you can plug any cable into, and a cheap ebay one.
They all work, BUT.. you have to plug them in when the device is off. Once the charge light comes on, you can turn it on, and it will charge, although slowly.
If you plug it in while the device is on, it will not start charging.
I don't know why this is, but considering it's the same on all 3 chargers, and I have seen people complaining about this on the Universal a few times, I think it's just the way things are.
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Yup because at first i was wondering too why my device isnt charging. Actually the charge light on my GPS came on quicker than the Universal.lol... i had to wait for a few moments and kept trying till the universal began charging. So yeah you gotta wait with the universal shut off.
I have not bothered reading all the replies but the problem with most car chargers is the AMPS, the voltage is right @ 5 volts but the amps is usually 0.5. Ideally the universal needs 1 or 2 amps, the new tomtom standalone units use 2 Amp USB car chargers and are a direct fit for our universals !!! isnt that convenient.
I don't have a charger as such but I use - strangely enough - a sony psp usb cord that goes through a USB cigarette adapter picked up from a poundshop here in UK ( a shop that sells lots of cheap gadgetry - for the non british of you )that also has a connector that is exactly what is needed for my fortuna bluetooth . it works fine . I realise that it does not recharge the phone but keeps it charged . I've not tried the usb to usb mini through the usb lighter adapter though . I guess that the trick its to have a charged universal before you leave on a trip .
I found I was having trouble charging my Universal with a USB adaptor in the car. The "charging" light would only come in if the phone was off, and while it would stay on when the phone turned on, it would not actually be charging and the damned thing would eventually run out of charge (I drive lots).
I eventually realised that if I turned the screen brightness down to it's lowest illumination whilst charging it worked fine. Obviously not much power comes out of the socket...
Now my battery has packed up due to another issue, but turn the screen down and it should be fine.
Voltage Regulator 5v / 2a /
I have read with interest all the comments and solution here and thought it might help to add mine what I have made and fitted to all my vehicles is a mini USB power supply, simply cut the pc plug from a mini USB lead and add one UA 78S05
VOLTAGE REGULATOR 5V / 2A /
http://www.donberg.ie/descript/u/ua78s05.htm
Connect the input leg to 12 v dc bolt the regulator to a GOOD earth/heat sink (car body) and off you go up to 2 amps @5v BUT DO TEST WITH VOLT METER BEFORE CONNECTING PPC
Hi.
i got a unbranded Touch Pro2 in france. the battery stand 2 days before the first recharge. but seems i got a problem of recharging.
i decide to recharge it when the phone is ON, but seems it consumes more than recharge speed. there are less and less electric in the battery, even the screen is Off, and no applications running, and all connections are disabled (WIFI, Bluetooth, Data Connection) except Phone
so i have to take the phone completely OFF, with a cable USB connected to the computer, now it is more than 6 hours, but the recharing light is always "Orange".
this is my 3rd HTC phone, and i never met this problem before. as the first recharge of TP2, is it normal to me?
thanks in advance of your help
Try the supplied wall charger - will do the job a lot quicker!
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Try the supplied wall charger - will do the job a lot quicker!
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Thanks, nearly 6.5 hours with usb cable. the light turns green, so i can start it now.
but i still not understand why it consumes more quickly than recharge. i will see if it happens only in first charge.
I saw somthing somehwhere about turning on quick charge or full charge via activesync usb, dont know what its about but its worth investegating if this is a problem for you.
I have another charging or connection problem, with all my other htc phones (5) i could use any regular usb cabel, with the pro 2 they all seem to have poor connection, have to hold the cabel in a sertan angel for it to work. The supplied cabel and the org cabel for my pro 1 works fine though. Anybody else having this issue?
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I saw somthing somehwhere about turning on quick charge or full charge via activesync usb, dont know what its about but its worth investegating if this is a problem for you.
I have another charging or connection problem, with all my other htc phones (5) i could use any regular usb cabel, with the pro 2 they all seem to have poor connection, have to hold the cabel in a sertan angel for it to work. The supplied cabel and the org cabel for my pro 1 works fine though. Anybody else having this issue?
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same here - but applies to all my htc phone. they can not connect stability with the mini-usb of my SLR camera. in fact, there are a little different with HTC ext-usb and mini USB -- the port is a Right-angle trapezoidal, while the standard mini-usb is Symmetric trapezoidal. so that's why we should use the ext-usb cable.
same here with the usb cable ...well is not the usb cables problem but the usb plug in the phone .
concerning charging from a pc laptop.....
if i leave my phone overnight charging from the laptop and the laptop goes into standby ,even if the battery is 100% it gets totally discharged with in hours!!!! this while plugged into the laptop!!!
what a hell is this , i mean, m i charging the laptop from the pda or what!?
this is a serious bug that htc needs addressing.
please note that there is laptops that do not power down usb ports while in standby, i got one that does just that.
now my eee-pc1000h doe power down the usbs ports when going into standby.
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same here - but applies to all my htc phone. they can not connect stability with the mini-usb of my SLR camera. in fact, there are a little different with HTC ext-usb and mini USB -- the port is a Right-angle trapezoidal, while the standard mini-usb is Symmetric trapezoidal. so that's why we should use the ext-usb cable.
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Well i know that but that is becous they also have the headset on the same port. As far as i know you should be able to use a normal usb cabel with the device.
USB ports on a computer can only supply 500Mah of current. it seems really odd that the phone would be discharging at such a rate to deplete itself even with that current available. that would seem to indicate the 1500Mah battery in the Tp2 would only last 2, maybe 3 hours before dying if left unplugged.
when connected through a Wall outlet the phone should be being charged at 1000Mah. although the maximum safe charge rate of the battery is 1.5Amps (1500Mah.)
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USB ports on a computer can only supply 500Mah of current. it seems really odd that the phone would be discharging at such a rate to deplete itself even with that current available. that would seem to indicate the 1500Mah battery in the Tp2 would only last 2, maybe 3 hours before dying if left unplugged.
when connected through a Wall outlet the phone should be being charged at 1000Mah. although the maximum safe charge rate of the battery is 1.5Amps (1500Mah.)
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I have noticed that my TP2 can complain with a popup warning that there is insufficient power to charge when connected to my Dell laptop. I think it just stops charging at this point. After that it is downhill all the way!
I agree that there is something strange going on with the TP2 recharging from a USB port. I got my TP2 as a replacement for my HTC Universal. I am using the TP2 on the same port with the same cable. The Universal was very straightforward - plug it in and it charged regardless of whether it or the PC was on or off. The TP2 is very different - leave this connected to a powered off PC overnight and I routinely find that the TP2 has reached critical battery low the next morning. This means that not only does it seem not to have been charging, but it must have been "on" overnight (where the power management settings should have turned it off) in order to deplete the battery to this extent, regardless of whether it was charging or not. The battery charging light (amber to the left of the ear speaker) is on throughout.
The power management information is also odd. This AM it reports last full charge at 23:12 last night and since last full charge a standby time of 6h39m, talk time of 0 and device usage of 2h55m. However, it wasnt used at all after about 20:00 last night and power management should have turned it off after 30 mins.
It charges normally from the USB port when the PC is on.
Any ideas?
This problem happens with standard USB cables and the official HTC cable. You must have an active ActiveSync connection or the phone won't charge.
Last night I plugged my phone in while my computer was still booting. The charging light came on, but this morning I was left with 10% battery.
If you plug it into a computer without ActiveSync installed the phone won't charge.
If you plug it in and the ActiveSync icon turns green the phone is happy and will charge.
If you turn off the phone and plug it in to just about any USB power source, the phone doesen't know better, and it will charge.
I got the power error in my car last weekend. Running with the splitter, with 3.5mm into car sterio and car charger plugged in. Was running slide2play and the pop up showed up. Come to find out, later on the charging light wasnt on the phone anymore. Tried the wifes tilt 2 and it wouldnt charger hers either. The car charger died.
BUT, at the time the error came up, the charging light was up and running.
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This problem happens with standard USB cables and the official HTC cable. You must have an active ActiveSync connection or the phone won't charge.
Last night I plugged my phone in while my computer was still booting. The charging light came on, but this morning I was left with 10% battery.
If you plug it into a computer without ActiveSync installed the phone won't charge.
If you plug it in and the ActiveSync icon turns green the phone is happy and will charge.
If you turn off the phone and plug it in to just about any USB power source, the phone doesen't know better, and it will charge.
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Total nonsense, I plug my phone into my computer here at home to top it off on the weekend and it does not have ActiveStink on it.
Problem with TP2 and Mini USB sync/charge cable
I have an unbranded GSM TP2. It charges normally using the HTC wall charger and the HTC supplied ExtUSB cable.
I have read that Mini USB cables should be compatible with the HTC ExtUSB port for normal operations like charge and sync so I bought a generic Mini USB sync/charge cable on e-Bay. The supplier stated it was compatible with TP2, but when I plug it in to USB port, the device charging light comes on for 1 sec then goes off and the PC shows a message saying "a USB device has malfunctioned".
The supplier sent me a replacement cable but it has exactly the same problem so I don't think the cable is faulty. I think maybe the problem is with my device.
Does anyone out there have more detailed knowledge of the compatibility of Mini USB and ExtUSB?
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I have an unbranded GSM TP2. It charges normally using the HTC wall charger and the HTC supplied ExtUSB cable.
I have read that Mini USB cables should be compatible with the HTC ExtUSB port for normal operations like charge and sync so I bought a generic Mini USB sync/charge cable on e-Bay. The supplier stated it was compatible with TP2, but when I plug it in to USB port, the device charging light comes on for 1 sec then goes off and the PC shows a message saying "a USB device has malfunctioned".
The supplier sent me a replacement cable but it has exactly the same problem so I don't think the cable is faulty. I think maybe the problem is with my device.
Does anyone out there have more detailed knowledge of the compatibility of Mini USB and ExtUSB?
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Do you use Internet Connection Sharing?
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Do you use Internet Connection Sharing?
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No, I am just using ActiveSync to sync my data and charging via USB whilst connected.
As I said, it works perfectly with the standard HTC ExtUSB cable but fails to connect properly when I try to use the Mini USB cable.
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No, I am just using ActiveSync to sync my data and charging via USB whilst connected.
As I said, it works perfectly with the standard HTC ExtUSB cable but fails to connect properly when I try to use the Mini USB cable.
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I think the odds are you just got a bum USB cable...the failure rate among the generic ones on e-bay is considerably higher as a rule. Do you or any of your friends have any other mini-USB equipped devices you can test it with?
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I think the odds are you just got a bum USB cable...the failure rate among the generic ones on e-bay is considerably higher as a rule. Do you or any of your friends have any other mini-USB equipped devices you can test it with?
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That was my first thought but I have now tried three different cables, from two different e-bay sources, with the same effect. However, I haven't yet tried any of them with any other device - I'll try that at the weekend and see what happens.
Hey guys,
I got my brodit active car holder now for a few days and it seems it doesn't supply enough juice to the S2 while in use :-(
While navigating with navigon, it even loses charge, though it's connected .... that's really disapointing, since brodit normally supplies quality products.
Anyone else got the brodit active holder with the same problems?
boba
Not got the Brodit, but I have the same problem when using CoPilot and charging via the USB cable attached to a car charger. It can keep the charge at current level with CoPilot on, but will only charge with CoPilot off.
Also noticed if SII has less than 50% charge, it won't charge at all with CoPilot on.
Taking a punt on one of these to see if it makes a difference:
http://www.buyincoins.com/details/d...-for-ipad-iphone-4g-ipod-2a-product-2748.html
Which holder do you have exactly? Can you make a photo?
Does it toggle car dock in the S2? You can see a steering wheel in notification bar.
ALexander
I was thinking exactly the same thing this lunchtime. I have the cigarete lighter active Brodit mount and - if i makes any difference - a 2004 Vauxhall Astra H. I as wondering if I would have to turn off the nice things [like satellite view, etc] on the phone for it to survive the journey. Not happy.
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Well I don't know the exact reason yet, but it seems the S2 doesn't accept enough juice from the charger,
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Is the S2 in USB AC Mode?
Take a look here: Einstellungen - Telefoninfo - Status
Yesterday I modified a Brodit active car holder from the good old htc HD2 to fit the S2. Now I have fast charging (AC) and Car-Mode.
I currently own some chargers. Not the original one, well the UK Version with no use in Austria.
A 1A HTC Charger with USB socket, a 450mA noname charger with USB socket and a no name car charger with micro usb.
The car charger and the HTC charger show charging(AC) whilst the noname 450mA charger shows charging(USB)...
It would be interesting to measure the exact mA taken by the phone...
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Hi all,
Okay, I've now tried four different chargers, and I've also had the phone replaced. Today, in a last attempt, I bought an official Samsung charger.
NONE of them work - even though the phone says "charging on AC" for all of them.
The only thing I haven't tried is a different car (which I'm going to do, once my neighbour gets home).
The one sensible suggestion I've read is that Samsung have screwed up somewhere in software and the phone can't draw enough juice.
Electronics is beyond my little brain, so I don't get why the GS2 charges from my netbook (even when it's only on battery) but won't charge in the car.
And I'm not talking when I'm using satnav. It won't charge at all. In fact (weirdly) it actually DISCHARGES much faster than it does if it's just sitting in my pocket.
I've logged this with my provider (Voda UK), because I refuse to get stuck with a useless phone for the next 18 months if this isn't sorted out. It's ludicrous. If I can't charge the phone in the car it's as good as useless to me.
UPDATE:
Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
Do you have any chsrger with a led?
If the led stays dark the cigarette lighgter of your car might need a new fuse.
Which car?
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Ive ordered one of these mounts and will report how it behaves in my 2008 Civic
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Okay, I just tried my neighbour's car (Vauxhall Astra) and the GS2 charged perfectly. 3% in four minutes. Pretty much what I get off the mains charger.
I wish I knew about electrics but I don't. Explanations will have to come from the boffins round here.
I tell you what, though. I don't really want to get a new car just to use my phone properly
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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You might be able to change to a higher amp fuse in your car fusebox.
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ROFL!! Genius!
Brodit mount arrived and looks great. Fit and design excellent and seems to charge as I would want.
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So what charger do you guys advice? Which charger does charge the phone, even while navigating with Navigon?
I got the Brodit active charger (BR512...), there isn't a problem with charging at all.
I think the issue you got is really car related. My guess:
a) your cigarette lighter port is poorly wired -> Measure voltage at the port with a voltmeter, it should be at least 12V DC (Edit: Even if it does there is still the possibility that your wiring is bad, showing 12V doesn't mean it can handle the current this charger needs)
b) your cigarette lighter port doesn't make a good contact to the brodit plug. Check for corrosion of the contacts, dust, dirt, etc. Some ports go bad after lots of plug in / out cycles.
If you have no idea what I'm talking about here, I'm pretty sure every car mechanic can fix your problem for a small amount of money
Edit: it's very possible this plug works with other chargers and phones and still fails with the S2 charger. The reason for this is the different ways chargers convert the car's 12V DC into 5V DC. Some might work down to 7V input, some already **** up at 11.8V
I have the same problem with my GSII trying to charge it with my 12V Ipod adapter...
I just arrive from a short travel with my Citroën Xsara and i almost got lost cose the phone discharged all the time while using IGO on the phone...
I don't think this is car related because there are so many people with different cars having this problem... so... Samsung wants me to buy a new car to be able to use their phone in travels?
Hi guys, just thought I'd try to clear up a few of things:
1. All phones can use more power than they can draw. Note that the more apps you use, the more juice you draw depending on their features.
2. Not all CLAs are the same. Most modern devices will need 2amps, but the majority of CLAs on the market are 1 - 1.2amp units.
3. Your device will stop charging if it reaches a certain temperature, without giving you any further indication that it is too hot. This is a common scenario if you've got a phone on the dash giving guidance, with the sun rays beating a back. And yes this does mean dedicated satnav devices have a greater operational temperature range than phones, usually a 15-20 degree difference (celcius).
4. If the CLA is being tripped out due to poor isolation (a lot of cars suffer from this) it will also stop charging.
5. In general terms, the lower the battery level of the device, the more juice it pulls. This is why you may find you ha email no problems getting a small charge when you start with a battery at 85%, but your phone dies if the battery is 50% or less.
Hope that helps.
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OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
LazyPawn said:
OK, I have no idea what the problem is. I have a Brodit active charger (the cig-plug version) for my Galaxy SII. It's not charging my phone AT ALL. There is no sound, nothing displayed on my phone when I connect it. I have the charger led (blue light) on, so I know it's working.
Things I have tried so far:
1. Asked for a replacement from Brodit. Got it, no difference.
2. Tried with a different car (I have a BMW, my wife a brand new Toyota Auris) - doesn't charge it either.
3. Tried a different no-name universal charger - it works perfectly well, the phone is charging as expected. Other things like the GPS device also work fine.
4. Tried a different kernel and ROM on my phone, still no success.
Any suggestions are welcome.
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Thats strange, in the first place i thought a faulty micro-usb or charger. But you got it replaced so can't be the problem.
I have a brodit with charger too, but i use it in a different way, meaning i can remove my holder and unplug it without unplugging my charger. ( near my holder i have a small connector that i can unplug).
What i did is cutting the cable from the charger and i did put a male usb port on it ( regular male usb port) and i have a Belkin charger with a usb port, this charger deliver 1A charging current and charge my phone even when i use my navigation. ( with bluetooth and gps on).
Your phones micro-usb seems to be fine too because it charge with other brands of chargers.
Your BMW delivers enough power i guess at your cigarette lighter plug, because it doesn't charge at the Toyota either and both not delivering enough power would be coincidence.
Anyway mine works perfect the way i did it and if i can remember it worked too with my original plug attached too. ( though the original one doesn't provide enough power sometimes to keep it charged while using navigation).
The only thing i can think of is that there is some stress-pressure on your connection between phone and holder connection and that one pin isn't connected properly, with the universal charger you only plug the micro-usb plug in your phone and the micro-usb plug can adjust freely to your phones micro-usb port.
Try to wiggle a bit with your phone when in the holder and see if the power comes on. Or try to connect a little device on your holders micro-usb port ( if you have something small that charge over micro-usb) and see if that works.
For the past 2 years on my old Desire I was using a homebrew in car charger I put together myself that would happily provide 1A, but my new One X seems a little more power hungry than that and when in car mode it seems to discharge slowly even though it's still plugged in.
Can anybody recommend anything suited for the One X's huge power drain (homebrew or off the shelf, I don't mind) other than HTC's expensive official one? I was looking at the Belkin ones floating about but they still only provide 1A.
Thanks, Dave.
i bought the official ATT universal charger when i got my GS II in Oct and it should work with the One X. also, i think some car docks/mounts are active and have their own chargers, so you might not want both.
I'm using the official HTC Dual USB charger. Does the job nicely. and looks pretty good too. I just wish it was in white to match my One X
Reckless187 said:
I'm using the official HTC Dual USB charger. Does the job nicely. and looks pretty good too. I just wish it was in white to match my One X
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Did you try it with BT on, Sat Nav + music, screen on ?
I have the same issue as OP. Changed my 800 mah for a 1A but battery is still draining =(
Same problem here... 2x1A HTC Charger... Is there anyboby who tried Belkin 2A mini charger?... I am bit scared, because in my battery monitor history Ive never seen more than + 600mAh... Even when off on home charger... It seems to me, that phone woudlnt allow quick charging... :-(
rahan95 said:
Did you try it with BT on, Sat Nav + music, screen on ?
I have the same issue as OP. Changed my 800 mah for a 1A but battery is still draining =(
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I had my phone connected to:
Car Bluetooth,
Google Maps on screen,
Screen On,
Poweramp Playing in background via speaker, and
Phone connected to the official HTC Dual USB Car Charger.
No power issues whatsoever. I had it connected and charging for about 10 minutes.
I kind of solved this problem by setting ballanced power consumption policy in my Sygic mobile navigation and lower brightness setting. But still I am unable tu charge my phone while using WAZE (navigation and lot of HSDPA data trafic)...but for now its ok..most important for me is charging during navigation by sygic....
In the end problem is still there and should be solved...I think that its really not ok to charge battery only by 600mA while other phones are able to take 1000mA usually delivered by all chargers..
I just posted about this issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633245
it's not a problem of charging current, but of the phone battery overheating - it will just stop charging until it cools down (and if there's navi running it won't cool down, ever). I even tried a 2A charger - it will charge happily, but once I start Waze or Sygic it gets hot and starts to discharge again.
I think this is bad design because it should be able to run off the charger without battery in this case, but what it does is charge+discharge battery at the same time... either that or it just starts sipping from the charger when hot because it doesn't care if it's charging or just running from the charger....
Anyway, it has to be fixed.
same problem for me, but with some exception.
Im using Belkin mini car charger with 1A output. in car im turn on only GPS + 3g network. brightness set to 25%.
and with all of this settings battery slowly drain.
Also ive should say that battery not overheated through charging, but after 1% drained, phone says that "consumption is more that charger can give"...
Right now i think about other usb cable, not using original yet, may be inside it wire diameter too small to fit 1A.....
In fact i changed cable too... And it seems thats everything running ok even with waze on
And problem wasnt really overheating related since I have my car holder in front of air-condition grid... Its always under 30°C Best place for quadcore beast btw
I just use the data cable plugged into the USB adapter.
Keeps it topped nicely.
So not perfectly OK... I was driving long way again yesterday... With Sygic on, and my battery stuck at 71% didnt go down on charger, but didnt rise too.. In fact I started my trip at 80% Well it did the job in fact, but after 3hrs of driving it should be full as any other smartphone... :-\
There us something bad with charging policy in OneXs system... :-\
tombik said:
So not perfectly OK... I was driving long way again yesterday... With Sygic on, and my battery stuck at 71% didnt go down on charger, but didnt rise too.. In fact I started my trip at 80% Well it did the job in fact, but after 3hrs of driving it should be full as any other smartphone... :-\
There us something bad with charging policy in OneXs system... :-\
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that's because it is using GPS (huge power hog), the screen is on (even bigger power hog) and then the CPU doing the calculations and rendering of the graphics, even with my desire hd it doesn't rise much when using sat nav. its a fact of life. the power consumed by the device is more than the charger can provide.
people have even reported that the mains charger isn't charging it quick enough whilst gaming for instance. (which doesn't surprise me)
Than it is fail of HTC... In fact my LGO2X (in most cases much worst than HTC) Handled it nicelly. HTC doesnt use potencial of charger. It takes only 600mA (top) while charger can deliver 1000mA.... And LG was able to use it....
I modified tiny generic usb car charger (5VDC 1A), so it allows faster charging. When opened up, D+ and D- pins were fed with some amount of electricity to allow iDevice charging, but I simply cut away traces leading to those pins and soldered them together. Phone reports "Charging (AC)". It really is standard method, but "surprisingly" Apple refused to follow standards and generic chargers do not work.
Hi,
i´m not really sure if this question is in the right place here.
After getting my HOX to replace my DHD i would like to know if i can use the DHD Car Charger (original HTC) for the HOX, too?
Thx...
Check out Avantek on Amazon. 2 out of its 5 ports are providing 2.4A, enough to charge your One X at full speed. An awesome product at an awesome price.
dsgoody said:
For the past 2 years on my old Desire I was using a homebrew in car charger I put together myself that would happily provide 1A, but my new One X seems a little more power hungry than that and when in car mode it seems to discharge slowly even though it's still plugged in.
Can anybody recommend anything suited for the One X's huge power drain (homebrew or off the shelf, I don't mind) other than HTC's expensive official one? I was looking at the Belkin ones floating about but they still only provide 1A.
Thanks, Dave.
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Hi Dave,
I have read your post and i refer you to Amazon web services. You will definitely find there best charger for your devices which is compatible with your car.