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I've heard the rumors... T-Mo's customer service is legendary. They're the best in the game. Everyone says so!!
Rewind: October 2007. I was a Sprint customer. After 3 years of hell with Nextel, no service in Rhode Island, replacement phones, billing errors, and long wait times, I became an ex-Spring customer when I threatened to leave Sprint for T-mobile, and the customer service SUPERVISOR said to me "You do what you have to do..." *click* and hung up on me. So I did just that... I walked into a t-mobile store and bought a wing.
Fast-forward: Today. It's now 6 months later. I've had 3 warranty replacements on the Wing, then (because I was fed up with the wing) I asked for an alternate model. They told me the only other "multiple exchange" model was the Dash. So they sent me a dash (which I can't figure out because it's cheaper). That was 3 weeks ago. Today, I noticed a bunch of white lines on my screen (see my other post for a screen shot).
I just got off the phone with T-mobile. They confirmed that this is a problem with the Dash, and the brackets holding the screen apparently break for no reason at all, causing this problem. It can happen for any or no reason at all. Well, the wing might be slow and lock up and reboot itself when it wants (though I fault t-mobile's ****ty software for that) but at least it kept it's screen in tact.
So I told them I wanted a wing back. They refused, because I did not qualify for the multiple exchange, since it was only my first dash. I told them I needed a phone that DIDN'T lose it's screen at random, so I wanted the Wing back (which is what I originally paid $300 for) and they said no, because that only applies if I had 2 or more defective dash's. What the hell is wrong with this company!?!? They can't send me a Blackberry Curve (even though it's the EXACT same price as the Wing), they can't send me ANYTHING, not even a basic phone. They said if I wanted the wing now, it would cost me $400!!!
Now, looking back at Sprint, with their new CEO (who has vowed to clean up customer service) and their newest plan (simply everything), and the coolest phone I've ever seen (the Sprint "Touch") I think I'm going to pay the early termination $200 fee and switch back to sprint when I get my $600.00 economic stimulus check from the government in May, and I told the t-mobile guy that too. He said "Well, sorry to hear that, but there's nothing we can do for you..." <-- What the hell is that??? What happened to customer service? I left Sprint because they sucked, and now they're getting better and T-Mobile sucks.
Looks like I picked a bad time to leave Sprint and an even worse time to join T-Mobile.
WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT SWITCHING TO T-MOBILE OR BUYING A PDA FROM T-MOBILE: DON'T do it!!! If it's a bad model, you'll be stuck with it!!
I am SICK of getting new phones every month in the mail. It takes me about 6 hours to get my phone looking & acting the way it should. I have to flash the ROM, copy pim.vol, change the theme, remove the stupid "callstart.wav" file, hack the **** out of the registry, and set up email, internet connections, and everything else. I've wasted countless days of my life doing this.
I've reached the end of my tether. I hope a perspective T-mobile customer reads this and it helps them decide to NOT go to T-mobile. Likewise, I hope a higher-up at T-mobile reads this and gets the message.
LMFAO Dude grow up.
SpringfieldXD45C said:
I've heard the rumors... T-Mo's customer service is legendary. They're the best in the game. Everyone says so!!
Rewind: October 2007. I was a Sprint customer. After 3 years of hell with Nextel, no service in Rhode Island, replacement phones, billing errors, and long wait times, I became an ex-Spring customer when I threatened to leave Sprint for T-mobile, and the customer service SUPERVISOR said to me "You do what you have to do..." *click* and hung up on me. So I did just that... I walked into a t-mobile store and bought a wing.
Fast-forward: Today. It's now 6 months later. I've had 3 warranty replacements on the Wing, then (because I was fed up with the wing) I asked for an alternate model. They told me the only other "multiple exchange" model was the Dash. So they sent me a dash (which I can't figure out because it's cheaper). That was 3 weeks ago. Today, I noticed a bunch of white lines on my screen (see my other post for a screen shot).
I just got off the phone with T-mobile. They confirmed that this is a problem with the Dash, and the brackets holding the screen apparently break for no reason at all, causing this problem. It can happen for any or no reason at all. Well, the wing might be slow and lock up and reboot itself when it wants (though I fault t-mobile's ****ty software for that) but at least it kept it's screen in tact.
So I told them I wanted a wing back. They refused, because I did not qualify for the multiple exchange, since it was only my first dash. I told them I needed a phone that DIDN'T lose it's screen at random, so I wanted the Wing back (which is what I originally paid $300 for) and they said no, because that only applies if I had 2 or more defective dash's. What the hell is wrong with this company!?!? They can't send me a Blackberry Curve (even though it's the EXACT same price as the Wing), they can't send me ANYTHING, not even a basic phone. They said if I wanted the wing now, it would cost me $400!!!
Now, looking back at Sprint, with their new CEO (who has vowed to clean up customer service) and their newest plan (simply everything), and the coolest phone I've ever seen (the Sprint "Touch") I think I'm going to pay the early termination $200 fee and switch back to sprint when I get my $600.00 economic stimulus check from the government in May, and I told the t-mobile guy that too. He said "Well, sorry to hear that, but there's nothing we can do for you..." <-- What the hell is that??? What happened to customer service? I left Sprint because they sucked, and now they're getting better and T-Mobile sucks.
Looks like I picked a bad time to leave Sprint and an even worse time to join T-Mobile.
WARNING TO ALL THOSE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT SWITCHING TO T-MOBILE OR BUYING A PDA FROM T-MOBILE: DON'T do it!!! If it's a bad model, you'll be stuck with it!!
I am SICK of getting new phones every month in the mail. It takes me about 6 hours to get my phone looking & acting the way it should. I have to flash the ROM, copy pim.vol, change the theme, remove the stupid "callstart.wav" file, hack the **** out of the registry, and set up email, internet connections, and everything else. I've wasted countless days of my life doing this.
I've reached the end of my tether. I hope a perspective T-mobile customer reads this and it helps them decide to NOT go to T-mobile. Likewise, I hope a higher-up at T-mobile reads this and gets the message.
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Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today! I for one would never EVER go to sprint. I don't care how much 3g or EV-DO they have...I used to be work for sprints technical support desk and i absolutely hated it! all they cared was for you to get off the phone as quickly as you could try to sell some add-on crap that you didnt need... retrigger the IOTA (internet over the air refresh) and get off the phone ASAP! and the reson why the tech do this is they dont get a bonus if they dont have an average call time under 7 minutes! i went to work for them thinking it was a technical job and all it was , was a front for over the phone sales! i was only there for 8 months and i hit the door as soon as the opportunity arose.
Maybe its you, not the phones. Ever think about that.
T-Mobile is not here to exchange any phone "YOU" decide to mod, drop, throw, dunk,etc.
They have a limit on how many, per customer, can get an exchange.
There is a thing called insurance you can buy from them, for this specific reason.
Pay up to keep getting a new phone every 4-6 months.
And see, I am the exact opposite of what the first poster said, I am a current SunCom Wireless customer, who was just bought out by T-Mobile, and I have had nothing but good things from TM's customer service. I called them about getting a Wing, and if they would provide me with a TM SIM card that would work with my SunCom plan....which wont work of course, so instead they say-"Hold on one moment and let me look at your account...(so I give em my account number, a SUNCOM account number mind you)and the dude comes back and says, well with your anytime rewards(basically 5USD off of a new phone that yoy get for every month you stay with SunCom), you can get a Wing for 249.99, and we will go ahead and SIM unlock it for you before we ship it, so that you can use it with SunCom. Then when SunCom and TM become one company, we will send you a TM SIM card(because thats what they are doing with everybody) and you will still be able to use your SunCom services and current billing prices." So of course I say hell yeah, and give the guy my debit card number, and he comes back and says, "Oh, and you also qualify for free next day air!" so hell yeah, I do LOVE TMs customer service already, and im not even one of their customers yet! BTW, teh Wing=AWESOME!
I sort of had a similar experience.
I had a Shadow, and did not like it, I really wanted the Dash to begin with..
I called and asked to send the Shadow back, and that was fine, but they wanted me to pay $200 upfront.
After thinking about it, I said no.
Called back asked for a supervisor, who immediately called the proper department, got my phone sent out FREE, gave me the rebate instantly, and also sent me a free bluetooth headset.
I have no problem with T-mobile, but if you do, call back and ask for a supervisor.
I LUV me dash and I think that Tmobile is probably the best mobile phone company. Hell they didn't ever try to sell up, but they did help me downgrade my plan with courtesy and respect and no additional months on my contract.
As to your problems with the Dash, I am sorry I would still get another. Even great products have some problems with them. I have had my Dash for over a year and couldn't possibly be more pleased. I keep it in a case and it is in pristine condition. My contract is over and I really would like a 3g device but there isn't anything I would like more than the dash out there. Especially with google's web page compression and the opera mini.
I work at IT at a hospital and most...no every smartphone has KNOWN problems with them. Please don't ask about getting a TREO..... You won't see known issues broadcast anywhere unless you are an major enterprise client. Cellular companies don't usually ever mention problems to nickel and dime clients.
My sister has major problems keeping a working cellphone for more than 4 months since they stopped making them large plasic bricks in the 90's. She has had her Dash for over a year as well. It has a large crack in the screen (no actual harm just a large crack). Various large gashes and the power button has to be pushed extra hard but it's still workin! So if you ask me it is a brick.
Tmobile is different. They only have edge no 3g at all that is a dealbreaker with enterprise clients. They only have nickel and dime clients. I think in general Tmobile have to be nice to their personal clients and they are. Just don't put a pink logo on your website!
Allright... for those of you telling me to "Grow up" and "Maybe it's not T-mobile, it's you" First of all, I'd like to remind you that I'm at least being polite to you. See, I reply to topics to give USEFUL information, not scathing remarks. That makes for somethign we like to call "a pleasant atmosphere". Perhaps you've never heard of that before. So how about YOU grow up? Thanks
I'd also like to point out that "I" am hardly the reason for the following WING issues:
Phone #1: Random reboots, battery lasted for 2 hours max, touch screen would stop working, and only come back after a reboot.
Phone #2: Extremely slow (timed: 34 seconds for the start menu to appear after pushing the start button.. OUT OF THE BOX), random reboots.
Phone #3: Internet would not work at all. On the phone with PDA Tech support who walked me through everything he wanted me to do, then finally HE suggested replacing the phone.
Phone #4: Would not power on at all.
Phone #5: The dash: Everything is working fine. Today, while sitting on my desk (e.g. not being dropped, submersed, etc.) a bunch of white lines appear on my screen. A member of this board said he had the same problem, and even T-Mobile said it was a known issue...
I'm sorry, but please explain to me HOW that is "me" and not t-mobile!??! You've obviously proven to me what great intelligence you have by demonstrating your innate, Jedi-like ability to sit at a keyboard and say "Dude, grow up" and "Maybe it's you not t-mobile" So please explain, Captain SDA... I eagerly await your solution to "my" problems with these "perfect" phones.
My mom once told me "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". Clearly your moms never told you that, Perhaps you should ask YOUR mom for that same advice. Judging by your superior online personalities, that shouldn't be too hard: Just leave your basement and walk upstairs. I'm sorry you don't understand the value of a dollar, and the fact that I have now spent $300 on a phone that doesn't work, and I religiously pay my bill for a service I can barely use. I'm sorry that upsets me. You're right, I shouldn't complain about that.
*** sigh ***
For the rest of you: Thanks for the advice about going back to sprint. The only reason I'm even thinking about it right now is because of all the good things I heard about the new CEO and the changes he's making, and I'm excited about the Samsung Instinct as well as the Sprint HTC Touch, which I personally got to use and it was lightning fast!!
My point was that T-Mobiles history with you as their customer.
When i read the story, i thought, this guy has no luck with phones. Do you honestly think T-Mobile will start giving away replacements to a person that has a history of mishaps? Look at it from their point of view also.
The thing is these days, people think everything is about themselves.
Sorry if you hate my replies. I tell things the way I see them. I don't sugar coat anything.
If you had said THAT instead of "Dude grow up" at first, it would've been a little nicer, don't you think?? Do you think I don't have enough on my plate already, after bleeding out all kinds of money for a damn phone & service that I can't even use, without having to put up with wisecrack remarks??
Yes, I DO expect T-Mobile to stand behind their products.
I respect the hell out of calling shots as you see them, but I question HOW they're seen. Throw me a bone, will you??
SpringfieldXD45C said:
If you had said THAT instead of "Dude grow up" at first, it would've been a little nicer, don't you think?? Do you think I don't have enough on my plate already, after bleeding out all kinds of money for a damn phone & service that I can't even use, without having to put up with wisecrack remarks??
Yes, I DO expect T-Mobile to stand behind their products.
I respect the hell out of calling shots as you see them, but I question HOW they're seen. Throw me a bone, will you??
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*tosses a bone in the air *
Kidding
SPRINT!!!
you know even if i had 10 phones break on me, through running normal software or even modified i would like the company to replace, even if it was my fault... thats what u pay insurance for and thats what makes great customer service. Think about it... how many people know more about the phones then someone that modifies them? not your average user, i referred about 15 people just because sprint is so good with me breaking my phone anyway i did( twice but w/e), not just a new phone but every little thing(a new box, battery, phone, 2x stylus, etc...). no need to grow up its a normal thing to worm someone about a HORRIBLE service provider, i've had sprint for a couple months no complaints, well maybe my bill once but i just shot them an email about my bill being $300, next day they gave me an extra $500. if u switch to sprint get the sero account and you may want to do it fast because no one knows how much longer that type of plan is going to be available....
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you know even if i had 10 phones break on me, through running normal software or even modified i would like the company to replace, even if it was my fault... thats what u pay insurance for and thats what makes great customer service. Think about it... how many people know more about the phones then someone that modifies them? not your average user, i referred about 15 people just because sprint is so good with me breaking my phone anyway i did( twice but w/e), not just a new phone but every little thing(a new box, battery, phone, 2x stylus, etc...). no need to grow up its a normal thing to worm someone about a HORRIBLE service provider, i've had sprint for a couple months no complaints, well maybe my bill once but i just shot them an email about my bill being $300, next day they gave me an extra $500. if u switch to sprint get the sero account and you may want to do it fast because no one knows how much longer that type of plan is going to be available....
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Yea but the key element of your situation that makes it different from the person that made this thread is that you have INSURANCE! things are a whole heckofalot different when you have insurance. When you don't, you stand a chance at ending up like this poor guy! The only thing about insurance i absolutely despise is you always get a reburb.
I have to disagree...If i had a company and sold you a phone. If you modify the rom in any way, warranty is void.
I think even with insurance it gets voided. (I may be wrong)
Mikey1022 said:
I have to disagree...If i had a company and sold you a phone. If you modify the rom in any way, warranty is void.
I think even with insurance it gets voided. (I may be wrong)
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No because most insurance plans cover damage ... which cover both physical and software.firmware damage.....
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No because most insurance plans cover damage ... which cover both physical and software.firmware damage.....
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original and modified firmware?
Mikey1022 said:
original and modified firmware?
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Yes! Heck even if it didnt and the insurance covered only physical damage. I'd beat the heck out of the phone so it wouldnt turn on to find out which firmware or ROM was installed. I mean if you think about it , the phone companies make a buttload of money gettin $5 ( or more) a month for monthly insurance charges,,,, then the customer still has to fork out a deductible when they use the insurance. So trust me, I'd love to offer insurance. Lastly most insurance policies limit the nunber of exchanges to 2 or 3 per year. so it would insure that they couldn't abuse the insurance plan
it sucks about the issues you are experiencing, but do you think this is the right forum (no pun intended) for this issue? in my opinion, you will have better luck discussing this issue with mid - senior level management at T-Mobile USA; not with a bunch of people looking to modify their mobile devices.
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it sucks about the issues you are experiencing, but do you think this is the right forum (no pun intended) for this issue? in my opinion, you will have better luck discussing this issue with mid - senior level management at T-Mobile USA; not with a bunch of people looking to modify their mobile devices.
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I agree. The mods should close this thread
I have no other place to vent, and to be honest, I was hoping to get a former T-mobile employee (or someone) who would send me a PM or leave a post with a bit of a tip in it.
If nothing else, I'm outraged and I need to vent (something wrong with that??) It's only natural.
By the way, this has nothing to do with insurance... this is still warranty!! And how do you figure flashing the ROM voids the warranty?? It changes no physical part of the phone... and as long as you can flash the factory ROM back onto it, (thus making the phone still useable) what harm was done?
I see nothing in the warranty about flashing the ROM as being grounds for voiding.
I was reading on the T-Mobile Dash forum on the T-Mobile site that some customers, unhappy with their Dash, they called and asked to get a replacement with either the Dash 3G or a BlackBerry Curve... Is this possible?
Let me know what you heard.
now im interested, i hope someone has the answer.
Someone should call T-Mobile customer support, and make their way to talking to superiors. Just claim that you are disastisfied with your purchase of the TMobile Dash...I don't know. It would be very interesting to find out though
I complained that the "a" key stopped working on my dash and I asked for a different phone, all they offered me was the 'o9 shadow, no other choices. I was tryin to get the 3g dash. I took the shadow since I already have a dopod dash.
Oh really?
How is the new Shadow working?
yes it's possible
you have 14 days to return or exchange a phone w/t-mobile. either defective, just don't like or whatever. i've done it about 4 times. you can exchange for a different phone, pay extra or refunded the difference, or just return for a full refund. the return has to be postmarked by the 14th day of receipt. other than that your out of luck as far as i know. outside the usa i don't know. hope this helps.
PS: if you have insurance on the phone, ie:defective, for a deductable charge the phone would be replaced. $6.00 a month
Thanks but I already knew that.
IMO the build quality of the old Dash is far better than the 3G. There is something very awkward about the new model.
FYI: They do have whats called a multipal exchange program where if you replace your device 3 times in a 3 month time frame then they will replace it with another device of equal or lesser value but they will not replace it for a better device such as the dash 3G or BBcurve. Even if talking to a superior they will only offer you a full discount with a 2yr contract or a switch to another device of equal or lesser value.
TMO will be shipping me a refurbished phone for the one I have that's experiencing loose hinge syndrome. I'm pissed that I won't be getting a new one for this. Has anyone else gone through this for the G2? I'm worried about getting another one that's going to have a loose hinge, even though they said this shouldn't have that problem.
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I'm pretty sure if you search this forum, you will find at least 5-10 other threads talking about only the hinge and whether the problem exists or doesn't and experiences through exchanges, returns, etc.
tazz9690 said:
I'm pretty sure if you search this forum, you will find at least 5-10 other threads talking about only the hinge and whether the problem exists or doesn't and experiences through exchanges, returns, etc.
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Indeed. Bottom line pal,..... there is nothing to say you will not get one that is worse. It was not mean to click into place. Good luck.
I know there are other threads going into detail about the loose hinge on the G2, and I've already participated in most of them with my loose hinge issue. However, this thread was created to find out what people's experience with exchanging their G2 with TMO. I know some have major problems with the hinge and others have no issues whatsoever. I am just a bit upset/irritated that I was told by this TMO rep this is "a known issue and we're fully aware of it," yet they're going to send a refurbished phone instead of a new one. Yes, I know I could end up getting a phone that's in worse condition than my current one, but the point I'm trying to make is that it shouldn't be that way. Sure, if I bought this phone the day it was released and I just experienced this issue, I wouldn't have a problem doing an exchange or even sending it in for repairs. But since this phone is one week old, I just wasn't expecting to hear the word "refurb" come out of this person's mouth.
So, if anyone here has gone through an exchange for their G2, did you end up with a new one or a refurbished one? If you received a refurbished one, was it in good condition with little to no signs of wear & tear?
Thanks.
If the phone is only a week old, you could exchange it under buyer's remorse.
Like I said in the other thread,... a refurbished is not good enough. Get some legal advice if at all possible.
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I know there are other threads going into detail about the loose hinge on the G2, and I've already participated in most of them with my loose hinge issue. However, this thread was created to find out what people's experience with exchanging their G2 with TMO. I know some have major problems with the hinge and others have no issues whatsoever. I am just a bit upset/irritated that I was told by this TMO rep this is "a known issue and we're fully aware of it," yet they're going to send a refurbished phone instead of a new one. Yes, I know I could end up getting a phone that's in worse condition than my current one, but the point I'm trying to make is that it shouldn't be that way. Sure, if I bought this phone the day it was released and I just experienced this issue, I wouldn't have a problem doing an exchange or even sending it in for repairs. But since this phone is one week old, I just wasn't expecting to hear the word "refurb" come out of this person's mouth.
So, if anyone here has gone through an exchange for their G2, did you end up with a new one or a refurbished one? If you received a refurbished one, was it in good condition with little to no signs of wear & tear?
Thanks.
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Exchanged mine and got a brand new one mailed to me, no refurb. As far as the hinge it was about the same, but it never bothered me in the first place, You paid for a new one and now are getting a refurb in exchange, doesnt sound quite legal?
Are they giving you some money back for the price diffrence for a refurb model? Ive never had a problem with T-mobiles customer service, matter a fact, today I just got them to drop two of my lines to unlimtied andriod data for $20 each, but I had to talk to a customer loyalty rep. I think you should probably call them back and ask to speak to a Supervisor. Thats like buying a new car and taking it back and getting a used one for the same price.
Here's my latest reply in the thread I started called "How Loose is Your Hinge" that should help shed some light on my recent experiences with TMO...
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For those who don't know me here, I previously owned the MT4G. I experienced major issues with the phone and exchanged it a total of FOUR times, meaning I had in my possession (not at once) a total of five MT4Gs. The first four phones had incredibly bad creaking buttons, the fifth one had perfect buttons but a washed out display. I refused to continue going the route of MT4G swapping, so they suggested me going with a different phone, and I chose the G2. The G2 they sent me arrived last week, brand new in a prestine unopened box. The hinge was perfect, not too tight and definitely not loose like it is now. Each day it got a little bit looser, and now it's just ridiculously loose to the point that it opens no matter how I hold it.
So, maybe they're shipping me this refurb because I've already gone through so many exchanges, but two of their top phones have so many issues that it just makes me sick. With all the issues with the G2, MT4G and Vibrant, I'm shocked I haven't heard about any lawsuits against TMO. Or at the very least, I think TMO should be proactive about this and admit that there are problems with these phones, and that they should be more than willing to do whatever it takes to make sure the customer is happy. I have to say I was treated very well during all those MT4G exchanges, and I feel they did everything they could to make sure I was a happy customer. But, I'm still not thrilled being told that I need to accept a refurb for a G2 that was technically brand new and just one week old.
That totally sucks. I got the first two G2s the cs rep. that I was dealing with had ever sold. I feel lucky I have never experienced the loose hinge syndrom everyone is talkng about. Sorry for your troubles, I would get totally pissed and threaten a cancel if I were you.
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The problem is, 95% of the population would never return the phones for the problems you described on your Mytough 4g slide.
The XDA community is a community of people with a tendency to experience obsessive like symptoms about their gadgets, unfortunately.
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Here's my latest reply in the thread I started called "How Loose is Your Hinge" that should help shed some light on my recent experiences with TMO...
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For those who don't know me here, I previously owned the MT4G. I experienced major issues with the phone and exchanged it a total of FOUR times, meaning I had in my possession (not at once) a total of five MT4Gs. The first four phones had incredibly bad creaking buttons, the fifth one had perfect buttons but a washed out display. I refused to continue going the route of MT4G swapping, so they suggested me going with a different phone, and I chose the G2. The G2 they sent me arrived last week, brand new in a prestine unopened box. The hinge was perfect, not too tight and definitely not loose like it is now. Each day it got a little bit looser, and now it's just ridiculously loose to the point that it opens no matter how I hold it.
So, maybe they're shipping me this refurb because I've already gone through so many exchanges, but two of their top phones have so many issues that it just makes me sick. With all the issues with the G2, MT4G and Vibrant, I'm shocked I haven't heard about any lawsuits against TMO. Or at the very least, I think TMO should be proactive about this and admit that there are problems with these phones, and that they should be more than willing to do whatever it takes to make sure the customer is happy. I have to say I was treated very well during all those MT4G exchanges, and I feel they did everything they could to make sure I was a happy customer. But, I'm still not thrilled being told that I need to accept a refurb for a G2 that was technically brand new and just one week old.
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dustrho said:
I know there are other threads going into detail about the loose hinge on the G2, and I've already participated in most of them with my loose hinge issue. However, this thread was created to find out what people's experience with exchanging their G2 with TMO. I know some have major problems with the hinge and others have no issues whatsoever. I am just a bit upset/irritated that I was told by this TMO rep this is "a known issue and we're fully aware of it," yet they're going to send a refurbished phone instead of a new one. Yes, I know I could end up getting a phone that's in worse condition than my current one, but the point I'm trying to make is that it shouldn't be that way. Sure, if I bought this phone the day it was released and I just experienced this issue, I wouldn't have a problem doing an exchange or even sending it in for repairs. But since this phone is one week old, I just wasn't expecting to hear the word "refurb" come out of this person's mouth.
So, if anyone here has gone through an exchange for their G2, did you end up with a new one or a refurbished one? If you received a refurbished one, was it in good condition with little to no signs of wear & tear?
Thanks.
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A week old?? Call them on "buyers remorse!!" They will be forced to send you a brand new one in retail packaging! I did that with a keyboard issue I had when it started within the 15 day period.
The only thing is, they will charge you full contract price but will refund it when they get the old one back. But check your bill closely to make sure they refund it properly. I had to jump through hoops twice to get mine in order.
Don't use regular warrentee replacement on a device that new. Its their own policy to make sure you are completely satisfied with your purchase. You could even get something else if you pay the difference. But g2 devs are the best.
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My first G2 had a bad trackpad. I received it on a Thursday and I called them that Saturday. The tech at TMo told me to do a buyers remorse exchange and transferred me to CS.
I received what appeared to be a brand new G2, but with a funky gmail addy with even funkier calendar entries. Was strange, but everything else was fine...
I sent back the first G2 the same day I got the replacement, bill came out a week later. Still waiting for it to come off my bill, but I know TMo will take care of it.
Or you could just go into a store and do the buyers remorse exchange with less of a headache.
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They wouldn't let me do it through the store because I got it over the phone and didn't buy it at the store
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They wouldn't let me do it through the store because I got it over the phone and didn't buy it at the store
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it would be nice if all TMo reps gave the same information..
I ordered over the phone, and on a complete whim- on an unrelated call, they offered me to go from EMP back to EM and we all got new phones on a new contract- and BOGO at that! when I called with issues, they told me I could go to the store and exchange it painlessly, or go through what I am, which is still no big deal. the rep said they could call the store ahead of time and let them know what to do when I came in.
the only reason I didn't go to a store is because I'm in Maine, and though they have a call center here, there are no actual corporate stores in Maine, or within 50 miles of me. (don't even get me started on the service- I have to pay for a 4G data plan, and I only get GPRS where I live, and the "partner-service" doesn't work on my G2, but works fine, and he has better signal, on a frikin Vibrant)
I have a Tilt2. Tonight the screen went black. The phone still works except the screen is dead. I have insurance. I am still five months from an upgrade.
I figure I will flash the rom back to stock and notify AT&T. I had the old Tilt before this phone. It was a tank. It survived being dropped in a pitcher of beer. I've never had to use my insurance before. Will they send me another Tilt2? Any chance they would let me upgrade early? I know they will negotiate if you are persistent. I was just wondering what you guys with more experience would try to do. Also, what phone should I press for? The Motorola Atrix looks cool, but I prefer having a keyboard.
Thanks for your help
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The first customer service rep said no go on an early upgrade. It was after hours. I may try my luck with another rep tomorrow. She said the best she could do for an early upgrade would be September, which is only one month early. I will probably have to use the insurance policy. I guess I could sell the replacement phone on ebay in September when I'm eligible for a new phone. I watched a youtube video on replacing the digitizer, lcd, and screen. I wouldn't want to tackle that, and it will be just as cheap to pay the 50$ deductible for a replacement phone. At one time, the Tilt2 had a 125$ tier 2 deductible, but now, since it's old, it's a tier 1 50$ deductible phone. It still sucks though because the phone was in perfect condition when the screen went out. It's had a boxwave cover and an invisible shield screen protector from day one. It looks new.
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It survived being dropped in a pitcher of beer.
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May have started a slow corrosion process that poisoned the connectors on your lcd screen, slowly killing the bright life of your tilt 2 until an agonizing death months later. AND YOU DID NOTHING!!!!
*cough*
You can buy a go (prepaid) phone or find someone who has an old go phone. Pop your sim in there and you'll be functional. Assuming you tried doing a battery reset, etc.
Rumors are that ATT will be coming out with an android + keyboard phone sometime in the "near" future. You will, of course, wait as long as you can to get a new phone until giving in and selecting the Atrix. ATT will release the new android keyboard phone(s) 1 day after your 30 day return window expires. This will suck.
I ordered an Inspire...
However, I think I will return to sender. I called tonight, and they told me they would let me go back to my old plan once they receive the phone. I currently have unlimited data, and they wouldn't grandfather me in.
I believe he was referring to the old tilt being dropped into the pitcher, not the current one that is broken. Why would he call a broken device a tank?
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However, I think I will return to sender. I called tonight, and they told me they would let me go back to my old plan once they receive the phone. I currently have unlimited data, and they wouldn't grandfather me in.
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They will give you the unlimited plan on the Inspire, if you are persistant. Other AT&T customers have had it done, so call them again and tell them that. Ask to talk to a supervisor or escalate it. Or hang up and call again until you get a rep that will give you the unlimited plan back.
They cannot force you into a tiered/limited plan just because you upgraded your device. But they may try to make it hard for you, so you give up and eat the crap they are shoveling. Or screw people that don't know any better. Just don't give up.
They may also give you some BS about how you can't get 4G (HSPA+) and still stay on the unlimited plan. This is also garbage, as I am still on the old unlimited plan, and get HSPA+. It might be coded as a unlimited 4G plan, so ask about that. Its the exact same thing as the old unlimited plan, they are just coding it different.
I was pretty pleased with Squaretrade when I had my Note 1, as the turnaround was incredibly fast and the repair work was really well done.
Picked up a new warranty for my Note 2 and sadly had to use it rather quickly after getting the phone.
November 27 I filed a claim with Squaretrade for my broken screen. Dumb mistake, set it on my wallet and it eventually hit the kitchen floor. Really didn't seem like much of a drop, but the cracks were there and I figured I might as well file the claim. Now I wish I waited. Had 2 large cracks on the phone and a small chip on the bottom right of the glass.
Everything went off without a hitch, they emailed me the 2nd day UPS label, and off it went. They received it on the 29th with the standard (potentially) "fixed and returned" within 5 days message. It's been 11 days now. I called last week Friday and was told that they were waiting for a digitizer that was to arrive that day and would have my phone out that night. Was pretty happy with that and waited to receive an email with a tracking number. Nothing.
Back on the phone with them today and I'm getting the same story just different ship date. They received the part on Friday, and would hopefully have it repaired and shipped out tonight. It's a cellphone shop and repair depot (Cellular Fantasy in LA, CA), so I'm wondering if they are just backed up with repairs or they don't work weekends? I was also advised that if I want a tracking number I need to call them tonight to ensure it actually went out this time.
So overall I'm probably looking at 13-14 days without my phone. Had I known about the delay, I probably would have waited a month considering the phone actually functioned like normal despite the large cracks.
Anyway, just putting this out there for anyone on the fence about a Squaretrade warranty. I will update with pics of the repaired phone once I finally receive it.
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I was pretty pleased with Squaretrade when I had my Note 1, as the turnaround was incredibly fast and the repair work was really well done.
Picked up a new warranty for my Note 2 and sadly had to use it rather quickly after getting the phone.
November 27 I filed a claim with Squaretrade for my broken screen. Dumb mistake, set it on my wallet and it eventually hit the kitchen floor. Really didn't seem like much of a drop, but the cracks were there and I figured I might as well file the claim. Now I wish I waited. Had 2 large cracks on the phone and a small chip on the bottom right of the glass.
Everything went off without a hitch, they emailed me the 2nd day UPS label, and off it went. They received it on the 29th with the standard (potentially) "fixed and returned" within 5 days message. It's been 11 days now. I called last week Friday and was told that they were waiting for a digitizer that was to arrive that day and would have my phone out that night. Was pretty happy with that and waited to receive an email with a tracking number. Nothing.
Back on the phone with them today and I'm getting the same story just different ship date. They received the part on Friday, and would hopefully have it repaired and shipped out tonight. It's a cellphone shop and repair depot (Cellular Fantasy in LA, CA), so I'm wondering if they are just backed up with repairs or they don't work weekends? I was also advised that if I want a tracking number I need to call them tonight to ensure it actually went out this time.
So overall I'm probably looking at 13-14 days without my phone. Had I known about the delay, I probably would have waited a month considering the phone actually functioned like normal despite the large cracks.
Anyway, just putting this out there for anyone on the fence about a Squaretrade warranty. I will update with pics of the repaired phone once I finally receive it.
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I had horror stories with SqureTrade and my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tab. There was a well known issue with displays on that device with what looked like wet spots (Newton Ring). Sent back my device a total of three times, and always came back with a replacement screen that had the same exact problem. Wrote Squaretrade corporate of the issue, and they never replied. I am not sure that I will use or recommend SquareTrade again.
I never considered using them for a cell phone, as the turnaround times with no cell phone are not acceptable for me.
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I had horror stories with SqureTrade and my Samsung Galaxy 10.1 Tab. There was a well known issue with displays on that device with what looked like wet spots (Newton Ring). Sent back my device a total of three times, and always came back with a replacement screen that had the same exact problem. Wrote Squaretrade corporate of the issue, and they never replied. I am not sure that I will use or recommend SquareTrade again.
I never considered using them for a cell phone, as the turnaround times with no cell phone are not acceptable for me.
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Well, when I did my Note 1 claim, there was an option for waiting for a replacement to be sent and mail back the old phone (though I opted for repair which was quick). Was really hoping this was going to be the case this time, but I understood because this was a new phone that it was going to need servicing rather than replacement. The turn around is pretty unworkable for me with my job and will make me think twice next time. I'm just hoping they do a good job as this wait has been maddening.
For your situation, did you try leaving a review on Reseller Ratings? They seem to respond to complaints there. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SquareTrade/sort/likes
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For your situation, did you try leaving a review on Reseller Ratings? They seem to respond to complaints there. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SquareTrade/sort/likes
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I would have thought writing corporate would have done it, BUT what the heck, I will give this a shot.
Thanks
Thanks for posting your story, and I'll be interested to hear your updates. I read your original review of Squaretrade, and your story actually motivated me to get coverage of my Note 2. Well, it was also significantly cheaper to insure it through Squaretrade than through AT&T or Best Buy ($90 for 2 years and $100 deductible is reasonable). I know Squaretrade doesn't cover lost or stolen devices, but that's not why I wanted insurance.
When I first bought coverage, the Note 2 wasn't an option on the website yet. I called customer service and was connected to a well-spoken rep within 30 seconds. He was extremely helpful and recorded my device info and confirmed coverage right on the spot and sent a confirmation email. This was far better customer service than I've ever had when dealing with AT&T.
In the end though I hope to never need to use the insurance *fingers crossed*
Couple questions: Now that you're having your Note II repaired, do you need to purchase coverage again, or do you continue to have coverage but would need to pay another $100 deductible if you file another claim in the future? Also, how stingy are they with the name on the purchase receipt? Although I bought my Note 2 with my debit card, the name on the email receipt was the primary account holder on my family's wireless plan (my father, same last name). I wonder if this may be an issue if I ever file a claim.
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Couple questions: Now that you're having your Note II repaired, do you need to purchase coverage again, or do you continue to have coverage but would need to pay another $100 deductible if you file another claim in the future? Also, how stingy are they with the name on the purchase receipt? Although I bought my Note 2 with my debit card, the name on the email receipt was the primary account holder on my family's wireless plan (my father, same last name). I wonder if this may be an issue if I ever file a claim.
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You still have coverage for a repair, but if they send you a reimbursement check, your warranty is done. As far as I understand, you are covered for up to the cost of the device. So if I'm not mistaken, the cost of repairs is deducted from that price (~$600) and continues to dwindle upon each use. Only problem I can see with that is they determine the pricing and never tell you the costs. So this repair + parts might be $300, so if I really have a bad accident causing the device to die in the future, I might be refunded $300 (really $200 after deductible). And ya, you will have to pay another deductible.
The warranties are easily transferable for the life of the warranty, so I don't think you'll run into any problems with names on receipts and such.
My main reason for going with Squaretrade is just like yours: price. AT&T is $200 or $250 for deductible on top of their $7 a month. That's quite a lot for an item that always drops in value as weeks go by and newer, fancier phones come out.
best buy is $240 for two years ($10/mo)and no deductible. not necessarily $240 either. $240 is only if you have the phone that long. its only $180 if you have it for 18 mos...
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Thanks for posting your story, and I'll be interested to hear your updates. I read your original review of Squaretrade, and your story actually motivated me to get coverage of my Note 2. Well, it was also significantly cheaper to insure it through Squaretrade than through AT&T or Best Buy ($90 for 2 years and $100 deductible is reasonable). I know Squaretrade doesn't cover lost or stolen devices, but that's not why I wanted insurance.
When I first bought coverage, the Note 2 wasn't an option on the website yet. I called customer service and was connected to a well-spoken rep within 30 seconds. He was extremely helpful and recorded my device info and confirmed coverage right on the spot and sent a confirmation email. This was far better customer service than I've ever had when dealing with AT&T.
In the end though I hope to never need to use the insurance *fingers crossed*
Couple questions: Now that you're having your Note II repaired, do you need to purchase coverage again, or do you continue to have coverage but would need to pay another $100 deductible if you file another claim in the future? Also, how stingy are they with the name on the purchase receipt? Although I bought my Note 2 with my debit card, the name on the email receipt was the primary account holder on my family's wireless plan (my father, same last name). I wonder if this may be an issue if I ever file a claim.
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best buys warranty is $10/month or $170 for 2yrs, does not cover lost or stolen, and No deductible.
If something were to happen within the first 7 months where they wont fix, send refurbished phone, or give you credit towards a new phone. Which has happened to my brother you get the prorated amount back from them. He got back $170 from his Black tie plan and they also let him pick any phone that was the same price of the dell streak ( $600 at that time). So he got new phone and the money he paid for the black tie plan back since you get a discount if you purchase 2yrs upfront. Not bad deal if you ask me and with the note2 it seems to be one of the few phones that will last 2 yrs at least or with how fast these phones are coming out you will be covered through the black tie protection.
It beats AT&T's insurance plan including several other out there right now, besides there is no B&M store to bring your device to when you need warranty service and no one to yell at in person when something isn't right.
It seems that best buy's insurance would be a slightly better deal if you ever need to file a claim. However I would rather only pay $90 for two years and pay the extra $100 if something breaks down the line. Considering I used my last iPhones case less and never had an incident, hopefully the same will go with my Note. $90 for two years peace-of-mind is basically what I bought.
Got my phone back this morning. I called last night for a tracking number and they said I would get an email within an hour with the information. Unfortunately it never came. Went to work this morning a bit annoyed as I didn't get an email, but received a call that I had an overnighted UPS box waiting for me at home.
Looks like new, so I won't bother with pics. They did all sorts of diagnostics and included screenshot proof (3 pages) of each test they ran. Only thing I am curious about is the battery test conclusion. Since the phone was barely in its second week of use, it was graded as Good rather than Excellent. Just curious what they would consider to be excellent since this is pretty damn close to brand new.
Anyway, besides the long wait (due to being a new phone) and lack of communication towards the end, I am pretty happy with the service. Screen protector and case now applied so hopefully I can keep from paying out another deductible.
*edit* Just a fun side story, but I went to AT&T to get a new micro sim set up, and I was asked to browse around as I waited for someone to be available. Was a bit odd since the store was practically empty besides the 9 employees. A plain clothed Samsung rep was at the store and asked if I was buying a Samsung phone as I was looking at the cases. After informing him I was just waiting for a new sim to put in my Note 2 he spent the next 15 minutes showing me all sorts of features of the phone. Must have been bored as I mentioned a few times I already owned one so selling me further on the features wasn't going to do much. Probably wanted to practice his sales pitch.
Back from the dead.
Dropped my phone yesterday while on the treadmill. It fell, got pulled by the aux cable, then fell a full foot from where it detached. I was thinking, "damn, glad I have a screen protector and case on it." Well, the glass is intact, but it's bleeding internally. Screen is getting worse and worse. Another $100 down the drain to squaretrade.
Or so I thought!
I called them and told them I really didn't want to wait as long as I did last time. They told me I had the option of finding a local shop to repair it at no additional deductible. All I have to do is pay for it, fax them the receipt, and I will be reimbursed as long as it doesn't go over $599. Took all day but found a shop that could have the part in by tomorrow and repaired same day for $360. Fingers crossed. Still impressed.
Sounds like you need an Otterbox Defender case.
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Sounds like you need an Otterbox Defender case.
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Ya, I ordered the Commuter. Don't want to go through this again.
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Well, when I did my Note 1 claim, there was an option for waiting for a replacement to be sent and mail back the old phone (though I opted for repair which was quick). Was really hoping this was going to be the case this time, but I understood because this was a new phone that it was going to need servicing rather than replacement. The turn around is pretty unworkable for me with my job and will make me think twice next time. I'm just hoping they do a good job as this wait has been maddening.
For your situation, did you try leaving a review on Reseller Ratings? They seem to respond to complaints there. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/SquareTrade/sort/likes
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sodomanaz. I wanted to let you know that I finally got around to posting on resellerratings, and THAT seemed to get their attention. They seem to be wanting to resolve my problem now.
Thanks for the advice.
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sodomanaz. I wanted to let you know that I finally got around to posting on resellerratings, and THAT seemed to get their attention. They seem to be wanting to resolve my problem now.
Thanks for the advice.
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That's awesome.
For me I just got my phone back today from a local shop. He fried the first screen and had to order another so I had to wait another few days. Shop has sworn never to touch another note 2 though haha. Works flawlessly now and with the commuter, though huge, feels secure like it did when I had one on my note 1.
Anyway submitting my receipt today for reimbursement. Fingers crossed it goes smooth. Gotta say that this warranty has paid for itself multiple times and the lack of deductible on this fix was over the top.
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