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One thing thats ticking me off a little is that VJBigPhone requires me to hit "load and Fix" after a reset for the incall screen to fix itself. Is this something unique to me or are other people experiencing this problem too? Anyone know a way to get round this?
Thanks to VJ for this app.
It's not supposed to do that - when loaded it searches for the phone and attempts to fix it. If cprog.exe isn't loaded for whatever reason, it gives up after a few seconds and waits for you to do the honours first.
I could make it more invasive, but chose not to. Examine your \windows\startup and see if there's anything odd going on to slow down your reboot etc. If it's a major problem I may rexamine the issue, but as far as I'm concerned, I think VJBigPhone isn't necessary now we have the opportunity to make our own phone skins with the eten dialler.
V
Thanks for the reply. There are almost no other apps in the startup fold which would cause a delay. I've had this issue even when starting out with a fresh ROM.
I've notice the ETEN method mentioned else where on the forums but even after many trawls I've haven't managed to work out how its implemented (Any method I look at seems to fall over in VGA mode). Could you point me in the right direction?
Thanks for all you work so far - TJ
Hmm, to tell you the truth, I've never tried the Eten skin. Let's just say that I have a much, much better solution, but it's not ready for release yet.
However, to use eten you should just have to drag the dll into Visual Studio or a good resource hacker and mess around with it. In theory. I've only briefly looked into it. I imagine you may also have to make a dpi dependant dll, but I guess that's already discussed by people with bigger brains then me.
If it's a big problem, I'll look into VJBigPhone again...
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Ok So Am I the only Asshole That txts and Talks at the same time ? Seems Like Every other ROM I Choose to Upload seem to Not Capitalize on this FIX. Really GREAT, FAST & STABLE Roms Seem to Just Look the Other Way Like this doesn't Bother them or Don't really care. I mean Not sure how many other People Multi-Task on There TyTn but I"m on IE,Writing an Email, WHile Recieving Txt message And on the Phone RELIGIOUSLY ! I can't see how this isn't Bothering Other Users or Basically not a Must in Some of the Great Roms. I've gone To Great Lengths To Annoy The **** out of Rom Cookers lol Constantly Reminding them or At least Post in there threads that This Bug does Occur in the ROM. Updates are released Yet there its Still Not Fixed ??
I mean Am I the only ONE ? I love to Test New Roms when They Come out. I"m on a new ROM every other Week And Usually the only Thing that Keeps me from Testing them More than a Week for Two is the "In Call Fixed Keyboard"
I really Wish this was an Easy Cab Fix But Unfortunately With Numerous Post in Different Threads And talking to Different Cooks it appears to be Something You have to Cook into the ROM(Something to have to do with the Keyboard.dll File)
This Is Just An Inquiry into How many People this Really bothers and/or effects Not to Mention a Desperate Hope to Make this Fix a Standard in Every Rom. I mean Seriouly How many Roms do you See that you Still have to Use the PTT Fix ? Not Many So Why This Problem Still ? ? ?
When I cook My Own From Using "mattk_r" Kithcen I Don't have this Problem ?
So I'd like other members to post about this ? Just Curious about what other people think Or am I Just knit picking ?
& B4 Rom Cookers Get Offended It's not a Stab. You all have done Great work I just feel with all the Great roms out there alot of them seem to Never get this fix Right or Don't Care too....Much Respect.
Updated !
Roms With "Keyboard keys NOT locked as numeric while in-call!"
Vp3G's
TnT S.E.
S64 3.63
S64 HTC WWE
K's Rom v1.30b and All Other K Rom's
More to Come....
I just tried this and have the problem also. While I don't normally txt while on the phone I'm sure it will happen at some point.
So yes I would like to see this fix cooked in also..
It is something that cooks often "forget" to fix..and some just don't know how the heck to fix it. Also, if you decide to fix the keyboard issue, you cannot map hot voice to button 5. Somebody will always be complaining. It is one of those things that when you patch a hole, another hole appears. Things just get overlooked sometimes, and it takes a few revisions to get the Rom to a stable stage. Regardless all my Roms have the keyboard fix - you can text with HW k/b and call at the same time.
LoL @ "FORGET" & "Regardless all my Roms have the keyboard fix"
Very True.... I've heard of the double Edge Sword as far as people not being able to Fix them ? how did you ? or you mean Fixing this without th Double Sided Problem of "Hot Voice" ?
And my Other Question ? "Hot Voice" ? Is tha tThe PTT ?
Edit : I'll Test your K's Rom's when I get home and Add your ROM to my List...
CAB Fix?
Does this exist as a CAB which I could apply to any ROM?
...yes, I've search and searched....and no one has a patch. Only certain ROMs have the fix cooked in.
Thanks.
i usually end up back with vp3G's last rom because of this. I've been trying others, but it's just too much of a pain to not have the keyboard while in a call. I usually try a new rom for a while then need to use the keyboard while in a call and end up re-loading vp3G's rom.
Like I said, you either have to pick the keyboard fix, or hotvoice mappable to button 5. Unfortunately there isn't a way to have both working. I thought I nailed it at one point but apparently I didn't, so I decided to stick with the keyboard fix as I do occasionally surf and talk at the same time. If the bug was not reported to the cook, it could be overlooked.
Understood kin0kin
I don't want the hotvoice button. Can I patch a ROM to fix this?
Thanks.
I have the same issue. I am always on the phone and texting and I have to tell the person to call me back so I can finish the txt. I would loooove to se a fix to this.
There is no Patch or Quick cab Fix for this. The Keyboard.dll Needs to be Cooked into the ROM. However if you use one of the Roms I"ve Stated Above or Build ur own you won't have this Issue.
Hello,
I keep seeing in these forums many threads regarding ROMs. I know what they are but my question is...why should I mess with it. I have an HTC Touch GSM with WM6. Now if you tell me I can get the interface in general to be quicker and the wifi to connect sooner, then i'm sold.
Cheers,
Paul
Paul_Days said:
Hello,
I keep seeing in these forums many threads regarding ROMs. I know what they are but my question is...why should I mess with it. I have an HTC Touch GSM with WM6. Now if you tell me I can get the interface in general to be quicker and the wifi to connect sooner, then i'm sold.
Cheers,
Paul
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youll be very suprised at how much of a difference it makes to flash your phone with a rom itll make it faster due to the applications that u dont use water down ur programming memory and that can be released and run faster with them gone ...just look around and find one that fits ur use..promise u will be happy...just one thing to remember ..Read he insructions carefully and dont be scared to ask any questions ..have fun
Perfection,
I guess so, sound logical. What would be the best ROM for the HTC Touch GSM, I've always felt that the phone is a little hesistant, and I've done the best that i've could in stoping animations, sounds and some registry hacks. I mostly use the Office Suite, Messenger, Skype and Netfront Browser. Then on trips the mp3 player and cameras.
Just in case I have a whole assortment of 3rd party software like: Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change and SPB Mobile Shell, in case it's neccessary to know.
Also, how does one go abouts installing this, i have both Mac and PC, so as you said i'm not scared of asking or trying things out, my Treo 650 I've dont a hell a lot to it, and it still runs good, but the HTC is it's replacement.
Cheers,
Paul
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Perfection,
I guess so, sound logical. What would be the best ROM for the HTC Touch GSM, I've always felt that the phone is a little hesistant, and I've done the best that i've could in stoping animations, sounds and some registry hacks. I mostly use the Office Suite, Messenger, Skype and Netfront Browser. Then on trips the mp3 player and cameras.
Just in case I have a whole assortment of 3rd party software like: Pocket CM, PCM Keyboard, SIP Change and SPB Mobile Shell, in case it's neccessary to know.
Also, how does one go abouts installing this, i have both Mac and PC, so as you said i'm not scared of asking or trying things out, my Treo 650 I've dont a hell a lot to it, and it still runs good, but the HTC is it's replacement.
Cheers,
Paul
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Well i my self have a herald or atlas >>or normal people call it the t-mobile wing so i wouldnt know exactly which one is the best
for that model but i have done alot od flashing and u always need to just post a question to the senoir members they know alot of the info and work arounds.....I promise they will make a difference ..send them private message its faster..and if ur phone is a
touch then go to the forums that show the names >>> Vogue or the Elf just look at them to see whihc one looks like urs...speak or ask the question for better programming speed to on of the senoir members it should show if they are seniors under there names.
Will do, thanks again Perfection3.
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!
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There's always the option to learn how to cook and come up with something unique and wonderfull you are expecting. Break the ice, innovate, this is what this place is all about, be the pioneer!
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I know how to cook etc...but sorry, dont have time for it. Thats why i always donate to the one which i have the rom from.
But i want to start up the discussion about all of those roms.
But i understand your opinion.
Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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I am getting bored too but bored about all the cooked ROM got problem which hang... And after many ROM, back to original ROM 6.0 version 17xxx (so old) where it's 20755.
I hope i know how to cook later....
Strange, never had any problems with any rom, cooked or not. Maybe an hardware issue?
i am looking for the rom of the roms too,
but i cant find it.
why? the roms have to legal, no cracked software or no legal software from user xyz (because that not legal too, if i used the legal software from xyz).
if you want the rom of the roms than do it like me: learning cooking and using your own legal software. all the kitchens are to strong for me. there is no klick-next-kitchen for people like me. so i used and learned all days a little bit more and more (i worked with pc's since 1985 and now i was a admin of a cc with 700 users) ... and its not easy for me to understand some threads where cooking-users writes " .. and now you can cooking ..."
hmm ... really, i can? four pda's and three years later, i can see a little structure and iam glad to say, i used my own rom with my personal needed software and tweaks.
so, say what is your wishes to your rom? what do you want in your pda?
okokur
yeah, i used to flash every new release, but it has been over a month with the same rom. nothing really new lately. but new builds and blackstone features will be available soon. 1.99 or 2.0 roms should be not far off. hopefully
yea im with Blazeitup, haven't flashed for a while, im kinda waiting for something amazing (namely Android )
I agree with you all look the same i dont realy see a differents.
Maybe can we make a website so we can see what rom has what future's
How can you expect anyone to come up with "something amazing", when you haven't given a clue as to what you want? It's a phone, not a magic wand. If you have a need that has not been fulfilled, perhaps you should explain it instead of waiting for someone to provide you with a digital orgasm?
Yzord said:
I'm getting bored of all those roms which passes trough the TD forum. They all look the same, have the same and are the same. Why is this? Is it not possible to help each other for working on a great rom with very nice features?
This is not to disrespect people for making a rom...i am very proud of those people, but in the last 4 months the roms are all the same. Ok, this rom has a newer dll then that rom, but the part what is really interesting (video support for instance) are never been touched.
I didnt searched for a new roms for 2 months, but after coming back on this forum everything is still the same...
Hopefully the Android part will fire up this community.
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Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
#1 - UC compliant. The differences between these ROMS are small, and without features to make it easier to setup the unit, its more trouble than its worth. UC seems perfect for this, yet is little used on the Diamond.
#2 Stability. It's Windows. Surely better stability is the key improvement. Tweak away.
#3 Speed. Who cares how fast applications run? You arent crunching numbers on a phone. The UI, on the other hand, you would like to be velvety smooth and easy to use. Tweak away.
#4 UI and finger use improvements. Again, it's Windows. The more help the better.
#5 Put the latest WM kernals and such in. They added them for SOME reason, didn't they?
#6 Dont remove useful apps. Maybe YOU don't use RSS hub, but I do. Sure, take out clearly useless things like Video tours, sample files, and Windows Update that isnt implemented. But not *apps*. OK, maybe Opera, since a newer one is probably coming every three days. And I'd even vote for removing Cyberon VC, because MS Voice Command works much better for me. But please dont strip out Adobe, RSS, blah blah.
#7 Add just a few universal apps. Maybe YOU love Unisofts' WM photo blog pud pulling editor, but is it really a universal ROM item? OK, add Total Commander, and a decent registry editor. And maybe one or two of the good tweaking programs. But take it easy, OK? We can add what we need.
And after this, it will still be very close to the same ROM your phone came with. But what did you expect, a silk purse from a sow's ear? It is still WM, after all. But it's a little better, easier to retweak if you need to again, smooth UI, and no fatal flaws. That's all we really need. Umm, unless someone wants to rewrite ActiveSync? Buehler? Anyone?
My two cents. Thanks a million to all you cookers!
And while I'm here, can someone figure out how to list more than one G*damn appointment on the TF3D screen? This is a business tool. Really, I don't need a 48 point clock!
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Since I made the point, I suppose I should give my list of priorities.
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Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.
F*g up the thread? Are you kidding me?
You said nothing useful, and I tried to make it relevent.
hi
children please stop swearing
from my point of that it will be fantastic create xda dev rom only one with best solution for everything for example
1 group software
2 group drivers
3 system files
4 tweaks
5 graphic
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get best people from forum to be in charge of each group and come out with something better then htc teach htc how to do best rom i know everyone like different roms but each rom have same drivers same system files and almost same graphic just software are different which you can install your self I'm little drank so if I f...ck about I'm sorry
I agree with DrewVS Post #11 this thread
I currently have a cdma (telus) Diamond and am running juicy's 2.5 rom it is bare and stable I add what progs i need. That being said I am trying to find a good tutorial to teach me the basics of cooking for my phone so I can do a rom that has EXACTLY what I want in it. The main problem that I have encountered is that finding any tuts that are remotly understandable for n00bs (to cooking) like me are almost non-existant. I think that a basic rom that tweaks your gps and helps with battery life and removes all propietary bloatware are really all that is needed by any1 and if you can't load a theme or your own proggies then perhaps a PPC is not really for you. I am not trying to start a argument but is there any real need to swear at peeps just because you have a differance of opinion?
Unrealpun
I saw this quote over at ppcgeek and find it very apt to this thread:
"The main diffrences between a smart person and a wise person
-a smart person knows what to say
-a wise person knows whether or not to say it"
Yzord said:
Please dont **** up this thread with your bull****. Edit your first post. The only thing you do is bashing around and spoofing the topic.
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He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!
The comment about Blackstone and Raphael features was intriguing. Can you elaborate? I didn't see much explaining that.
dickenz said:
He has a perfectly relevant point.
Not to mention, his point is pretty politically correct. But I too am with Drew.
I have been using Dutty's rom however udK just released a beta ROM with lots of Blackstone and Raphael features.
Maybe this is up your alley that you are looking for? Something a bit different from the norm - My usage so far has indicated that the ROM is great!
Very speedy with some nice new added bonuses!
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this is why i love lite roms with NOTHING built in...
so you get to customize it all by yourself...
until now what i see is people who remove bloatware and add in their own bloatware... so there are tons of roms with really unnecessary applications removed but tons more added on... together with really ugly start up screens that feature somebody else's name, on your phone!
that was until i came across christonge's thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411561
he's made the perfect rom, all you needa do is customize it to your own liking...
so if you've gotten his rom and you don't like it, you've only got yourself to blame...
perfect sample
This tred shows perfectly that there is no ideal ROM. Other people want other thing in rom, some add feature, some light rom, some pure original but tweak... etc..
So this anwer your Q why there is ..
This is a great community, but why is so hard to find a really clean rom for Touch Diamond? I mean, you cook a rom, spend hour and hour to make it work, fix it with strange registry entry and then?
Then you:
- ruin it with ugly icon set/missing icons
- you put in it unuseful software or bloatware
- customize it with boot screen & animations with your name/nickname/name of your pet
I'm saying this because I've tried tons of rom and NO one rom is really clean and light as it should be. This is the same reason why you (and I) hate the personalized windows installation one can find on many warez site.
There is no sense in it. Software will be update, icons are beauty for you, maybe not for me. Some software could be useful to you, not for me. And you pretend donation! I know what you are thinking: why not developing your own rom? Of course I have no so much time and no skill to make it work. And I can't find an updated guide to follow. For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
I think this is because these ROMs are custom ROMs published to others. XDA is not a company to build the clean ROMs, it is just the forum of users. Everyopne can build your own ROM if you are able to, some kitchens are published. That is not so hard to remove unwanted stuff...
Mbiba
true ..
totaly agree with you ..
had the same problem when moved over to hd2. from all the customization and make-up cannot use the phone for normal work .. even when flashed "basic-reference" rom even THAN the wallpaper was some (for me) ugly and the clock was customized. so where is the "basic" ?
thats why you need to search and choose from the all the "evil" around .. the smallest one .. i wont say what rom, but there is rom for diamond that even it is customized, you are able to turn OFF all the customization and make-up, and have stock-like low mem usage rom.
i agree that it is not you were asking for, but .. is there another solution ? except flashing stock rom .. that we all agree is slower then custom cooked.
cheers
you guys can try the old aztor x2 ultimate rom. it is like the official rom with tweaks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417&highlight=aztor
but keep in mind that the diamond is an old device, there are no more updates from htc. there is no official 6.5 but tons of ultra light roms without customized icons ... flash one of those and install all your programms.
X
Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
magicdave26 said:
Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
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Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
Gremo said:
Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
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Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
magicdave26 said:
Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
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I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
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Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
there's Gen.Y that is barely a stock rom with sense 2.5. you can use that one,it has no customization at all. and there's also a lot of kitchens released around,people spend time preparing them and making them as easy to understand as possible. you can just download one,disable what you don't need and cook your own clean rom.
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Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
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that wasn't my point, and I suppose the original post's point... as I had mentioned, not a big issue...
I do understand that a person that has developed smth, always (mostly) tries to leave a signature of some kind, that's totally ok, but a figure of common sense would be mentioning that
Partially agree, too, but, we must be thankful with the chefs, they make ROM's according to their use, likes and more, so, they don't custom a ROM for you, it's like a car, you can like the outside, the inside, the engine, the power, etc... but, rarely you will like all from that car.
The truth is that when you don't like something is to make something to like it (to make your own ROM), but that doesn't mean anything critic towards you.
I have tried hundred of ROM's, and of course some are horrible in letters, menu, icons, work, speed, etc... but I have found on Ralphusion ROM the best ROM for my needs (TELEPHONE WORK), fast and stable.
All depends on what people want, a ROM to play, games, internet, etc... but... Diamond is limited on hardware, so why to make Sense 2.5 if we can have a super fast ROM with Titanium and have a TELEPHONE (it is not a GPS, it is not a Nintendo DS, it is a telephone....)
By the way, the thread is a good idea, all we have thought about this in some time, but you have explained writing it, so, good idea, maybe some good chef will create the PERFECT STABLE AND FAST ROM FOR DIAMOND, a device that is what it is.... They can call to the project something like.... WHAT HTC SHOULD HAVE DONE FOR ITS DEVICE.
Thanks everybody, best regards.
i dont really want to "advertise" my ROM but i you should try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786088
and as far as sense 2.5 on diamond is concerned it just doesnt make much sense
i dont understand why people ignore sense 2.1 its more suited to diamond's hardware
Gremo said:
For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
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I have installed many intalian and english roms on my diamond, if you're searching for a stabe one I suggest you to try the GenY (a bit old) or Fodd.
Both have no customisation (no strange boot screnn, no ugly icons or else), very few software installed and they are fast and stable:
GenY -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
Fodd -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775419
I used GenY a lot with internet connection and also gps, i'm currently using Fodd and it also seems to fit my needs.
give it a try
(sorry for my english, i hope you can get what i'm saying)
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
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Genuine Windows, just like Genuine ROMs go hand in hand
If you want to download a custom built ROM or Windows, then you can not complain when there are extras included
Ok I ended up cooking my very first rom, using latest official diamond one (6.1). I spent a couple of hours to figure out dependencies, but finally it works. Nothing special, just original rom without the software. UC doesn't work, don't know why .
Still looking for 6.5.x rom with titanium and no personalization at all. Thanks anyway to all voting "Yes" to the poll.
Are you serious?! You come here and tell the chefs to show you respect and make a Ferrari out of your Fiat? They even let you use their tools so you can create your awesome, unique, clean, fast and whatever you want your rom to be but you are to lazy to learn a few things. Cheffs owe you nothing! Dont blame them, blame yourself! Your attitude is very bad for this community...
The problem with Diamond ROM development is that there is no official "updated" ROM for the phone. The only possible vanilla ROMs for diamond are 6.1, and very little of the software from the 6.1 official ROM can be used for 6.5 ROM development. Any Diamond ROM that runs 6.5 or 6.5.x is built from software ported from other phones, and assembled using that other ROM as a guide. No modern phone has as little RAM as the Diamond. Using a "clean vanilla" build from any modern phone, makes for a bloated 6.5 Diamond ROM.
A stable, "clean vanilla" 6.5 Diamond ROM is a myth.
That said, clever developers can add compression, use lighter graphics (and get yelled at), choose to leave out needed software, and cut less used functionality to save memory. This can introduce bugs, and rile up users. For every user who wants you to remove a "thingy", you have another user who OMGNEEDS that "thingy" in the ROM. You can start adding "thingy" cab packages, but then you have to support and update those packages, which takes away time from development and testing.
Due to a few pushy users, a lot of devs just jump in and make what they want. If the dev happens to be really nice, he or she will make their ROMs available for everyone else to use. Of course, once they do release their ROM, they get criticized for one design choice after another. After enough negative posts and personal messages, it stops being fun. Eventually only the really stubborn and thick skinned devs stick around.
All that aside, there is just very little incentive to do custom ROMs for user requests. I did something like 30 minor revisions of my ROM, and 16 major revisions. I published as many as 10 different flavors from clean to bloated for every revision. I received as many as 3000 downloads for each ROM release... and yet, I never received a single donation. Lucky for me that I was never in it for the money. =)
In any case, best of luck finding your perfect ROM!
I agree with the idea of the post. Clean ROMs are much more nice, since the user can customize it the way he/she wants.
I've not tryied this much number of ROMs in here, but i am currently using Gen.Y R2.6 and i pretty much like it...
Icons are default, no fancy themes, tones, splashes, no visible nicknames all arround. The only thing visible is the bootleader (when powering on), that has an option to load Android (witch i did not install). Start Menu is also not very pratical, but you can revert it to old-style easely
I also agree that a good clean and complete guide on rom cooking would be very nice! there is A LOT info in here, but it's all scattered in thousands of threads...