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Bluetooth Upgrade and Bluetooth GPS

I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......

I have not tried it with BT GPS, but looking at what everyone else went through with their Headsets and bonding issues, I can defintiely attest to the fact that the new BT Stack on 1.72WWE works great! I have never had to re-pair my Jabra BT 250 since I paired it the first time two weeks ago. I have also been able to ActiveSync over BT without any problems.

Lucky u guys, when i did the update, i cant active sync through BT

first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.

sheran_g,
Thaks alot, all i was missing was to do the active sync profile, your document helped me.
Thaks again

(some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
Victor said:
I don't know if anyone has noticed... but the new ROM version (1.72 + radio 14) has actually improved concerning serial bluetooth connections -- especially on my BT GPS.
Now when I bond with it, it asks me if I want to use the serial profile. I say yes, and it uses COM 5 for my BT GPS. All works fine. No need to use the Blueooth tools software that was needed before.
So this is actually an improvement, but hard to notice unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
Works like a charm......
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I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
Victor said:
..... I say yes .....
.... unless one tries "the old fashioned way" with BT GPS.
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I can not remember that NO was an option. Do you mean this with the old fashion way???
Ronald

Hi guys
I'm guessing that the 1.7 upgrade is not avalable in Australia??? I cannot find it on the MyXDA website for download? is this update that you are talking about not for Australia/Asia?
Cheers...

sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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You might need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader in order to view the file. You can find the Acrobat Reader here.

dont try dow view the file in IE
Download it first and THEN view it
This works for me

smiley_thing69 said:
sheran_g said:
first_major:
Try this attached document and see if it helps.
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dude the filedoesnt work, can u upload it again?
Smiley
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With gozilla I can also not download the pdf, but with "save target as" it works.
@sheran_g
BTW Thanx for the post

Re: (some) GPS problems with 1.72 (and 1.66)
ronald2oo2 said:
I have noticed the added WM function for BT GPS on COM5 (already with 1.66), however 'since' 1.66 I can not get my BT GPS to work with Alturion.
The strange things are:
- At first it still worked with 1.66 but a week after it failed and Alturion and I can not get it working since (incl. 1.72 upgrade).
- if I start Alturion the blue GPS LED starts flashing fast (green LED indicates satelite lock) which suggests BT connection, but still it says "NO GPS FOUND" all the time!
- With TT3 the GPS is working ok (with BT and serial profiles)
I dare not to hope, but if anybody has an idea please let me know. I prefer not to downgrade to 1.60 since I see many issues with this downgrade on this forum.
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Are you sure this isn't TomTom's GPS Driver causing this? TT's GPS Drivers since v2.08 have locked the BT Com Port for exclusive access by TomTom and this prevents other apps from accessing a BT GPS. Solutions are either install v2.07 which was the last driver that did not do this or remove 'the Tomtom~GPS' entry which is the culprit, removing this removes the BT Com Port lock but does not affect the use of TomTom.

@ griffog
Actually I use TomTom ~GPS 3.03 which does not have this problem anymore! Anyhow I still (temporarely) remove the TomTom ~GPS driver and soft-reset when I test with Alturion.
But thanx for the tip.
BTW it does effect the use of TomTom for me! I guess you have a serial (non BT) GPS !?
Ronald

No I use BT GPS unit's exclusively. I'll have to investigate this as I have not heard that v3.03 no longer has this problem!

@griffog
I have this information from the Dutch PocketPC-club TT forum.
It is also consistent with what I see since the TT3.03 upgrade, even while my other GPS application (Alturion) is not working. If I run TT GPS and close it and then start Alturion the Blue LED of the GPS starts flashing fast (sadly I still get "no GPS found" however).
Ronald
:wink: remember you heard it first from me, the Premier GPS Resource :wink:

Excellent news! I've just loaded it up to test and you were right It's such good news that I've posted a front page news item, thanks

Indeed it was very good news.... but therefor also more disappointing for me that I don't get Alturion -my second GPS application- to work (on the eve of my holidays).
If you also use Alturion 5.3.1.4 (you seem in to GPS), can you share your configuration with me?
OS (1.66+?)?, BTHTools or WM serial BT profile? GPS? GPS config in Alturion? and anything else you might consider important.
I really need some new straws to grasp because I have no more ideas about what to try.
Ronald

Sadly Alturion hasn't made it across the channel. I'ce contacted them on numerous occasions for a review copy but never received a reply.

Another cool fix is the fact that you can now be connected through Activesinc using the cradle and at the same time now you can receive MMSs without a problem.
Before the 1.72 upgrade, you just couln't do that. :wink:

Dash W/ Google Maps and Bluetooth GPS reciever?

I have a T-mobile Dash and i installed the new Google maps software for smartphones. and picked up a Cellink BTG-7000 bluetooth gps reciever.
I can't get google maps to detect the bluetooth gps
i paired the device and created a outgoing com port to the gps ( says BTG-7000 (com 7)
- ive tried un checking secure connection
- also created an incoming port but does not have gps reciever name in connection...
the google maps software says i have to goto the start - settings - GPS
but i do not have such an option.
Anyone have any ideas?
dave

Hmmm, I am not sure either. I just tried to get it to recognise my bluetooth gps device. Surely someone knows what is going on.

Same issue here
I am having the same issue with my Dash/Bluetooth GPS with Google Maps. There is a FAQ (http://www.google.com/gmm/gmmfaq.html?platform=winm-SmartPhone-T-Mobile+Dash/web#4) that refers to a "Settings->System->GPS" control panel applet that does not exist.

I have the same problem. I think the issue has to do with the initialization of the BT GPS unit and have WM see it first (as GPS) rather than as a BT device that it has paired with. The GPS applet would take care of it by sending it cold boot parameters etc.
Alternatively, you can download a smartphone version of the applet from the GPS manufacturer and run that before running Google Maps. I am not sure but it might fix the problem.
Edit: I wonder if the HTC S620 Variant has the GPS applet in its ROM? If it does, perhaps someone can extract the cab file and share it with the community. That might fix our GPS woes...

I'm running the s620 ROM. There is no GPS applet that I see...

there is no gps

Darn..that sucks.

the settings they tell you to go look at only exist in the PPC version.

Was able to use a BT GPS device to work with Windows LIVE search ( Google Mobile Maps rival )
If GMM can be forced to use a particular comm port it should also work .. anyone ?
HTC S620 phone BTW.

Figured it out !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293018

Umm, same thing I wrote in the other thread:
Folks, is there a reason you guys are so desperate to use GMM? Especially knowing your GPS doesn't work natively without hacks?
Just use Windows Live Search Mobile? IMO, LIGHT YEARS ahead of GMM in terms of usability and fit and finish. AND it'll find your GPS both on GPSID (what GMM uses) as well as COM ports. No hacks. Simple. Straightforward. Elegant.
http://wls.live.com from your mobile phone. Click the Windows Mobile client.

I've played with both and I've found GMM to be much more one handable. Now when I say that I know WLS is one handable but things go slow. You can do things quick with GMM one handed.
Also GMM adds a features that WLS doesn't. One example is that if you go to a contact in your contact list it gives you the option to 'Locate on Google Maps' and it will use the address in the contact information to locate the contact on Google Maps. And I might be wrong but isn't Microsofts Satelite (Not Road Map) imagery older then googles?

GMM cleaner and smaller but lacking big feature
GMM also seems to use much less memory. Great footprint compared to WLS which slows the whole phone down. When I turn off WLS I also have to restart most of the time because the phone can't recoop some of that memory. The one thing I don't like about GMM is that when using the directions feature with GPS, you can only look at your route, or follow your track - not both at the same time like WLS. (IE right before every turn you get a popup with which way to go.) It's much more manual with GMM.

Bluetooth Explorer creates PROBLEMS for TomTom!!!

Indeed clicking as much as one time on "Bluetooth Explorer" will cause TomTom not to function properly any more (maps/voices not found etc.).
I have learnt that the hard way!!!
Many members of this forum speculated that the Artemis SD card housing is somehow related to TT's maps to vanish.... NOT TRUE!!!
After a hard reset I have tested that TT was fully functional and I have (intentionally... just to find out) clicked on Bluetooth Explorer and BINGO the TT6.1 maps&voices are GONE!!!
If some of the forum experts would happen to read this and would feel like giving instructions to disable Bluetooth Explorer it would be very helpful.... this will surely avoid SEVERAL hard resets to many people.
I have read that one should go to Settings/Connections then select the FTP tab and uncheck "Enable Bluetooth Explorer" but this is not to be found on my ARTEMIS (P3300)... Let's see if somebody will find a moment to share his/her wisdom with the rookies and shed some lights on this annoying problem.
Cheers!
SiperX

On my Orbit you do the following to disable the Bluetooth Explorer
Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP (tab)
Then select or de-select Bluetooth Explorer.

I appreciate your kind reply Patrick but as you can read in my thread this path (Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP (tab)) is not available in the Artemis/HTC P3300.... Anybody else?

Do you have a comms manager? If so you can access the ftp option of the bluetooth settings from here.
TomTom and Bluetooth explorer both work on my xda orbit.

herghost, what version of TomTom are you running?
I m unable to have Bluetooth Explorer enabled on my Orbit, and get TomTom to find the maps. I am running ver 6.02

perfect, i wasnt able to make tomtom recognize maps on orbit(on universal it works w/o probs) i switched bt expl. off and it works. thx

Guys, there is no doubt. TT (mine is version 6.1) and BT Explorer are NOT going to work together! I am glad to hear that phsnake could get his orbit to resume TT functions.... And (also) I found out that my old rom (the one originally shipped with the P3300) had the path (Settings / Connections / Bluetooth / FTP) to disable BT Explorer (as Patrick_UK explained) ... but the one I am using now does not offer the chance to enable/disable BTE.... any registry master would be kind enough to offer his/her expertise to make this possible? I am not so keen on editing the REG unless I know exactly what has to be done
rom 1.28.0.0 wwe
rom date 11-06-06
radio 02.69.90
protocol 4.1.13.30
ext. rom PDAMobiz.com

SiperX:I'll try today to find reg solution, i cannot promise anything, but i'll do reg export with btexpl. switched on, then with switched off and compare reg.files. hopefully i'll find the right one key.

Phsnake, this sounds like a great idea! Thanks in advance!!! I really hope that you can succeed and give me support in this matter.
By the way where did you find the rom (ROM: DOPOD IPL: 1.25.0001 SPL:1.27.0000 GSM: 2.69.90 OS:1.28.0.0 WWE) you are running now? It sounds lke the right one for my T-Mobile Artemis.

so i compared the regs and diff follows:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BluetoothFolder]
"EnableClient"=dword:00000001
"HDEVICE"=dword:00031380
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\68]
"ClientInfo"=dword:00000000
"Hnd"=dword:00031380
"Key"="Drivers\\BlockDevice\\BTDisk"
"Name"="BTD1:"
i guess all U need 2 do is change "EnableClient" from 1 to 0. try it and let us know. (i can disable it thru bt settings). or remove above posted reg entries.
ROM:its standard dopod shipped(the latest one) should be on wm-gurus.com

Thanks man! The registry editing you suggested worked and the BT Expl. is now OFF and TT finds the maps again!!!
But the option to enable/disable the BT Expl. (via BT settings as you say) is still not available any chance you could send me a screenshot of your reg for both [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\BluetoothFolder] and [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\68]?
For your Dopod rom, could you please give me a precise link where I can download it? I could not find it at wm-gurus.com.
Thanks a lot

ftp.wm-gurus.com/Artemis/Shipped_Complete_Updates/ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe
yes i know that wont allow u to switch off btexpl. thru bt control panel.
Here are regentries U requested, but i dont think it'll help. but try.

Thanks again!
BTW, the same file (ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe) was available at XDA too.... I have tested it a few weeks ago it and -being an AU (Australian rom) my sim (Dutch T-Mobile) did not get registered as the operator is apparently not quoted .... strange that you can use it in Scotland.
For regs I will see what I manage to put together and will let you know... Great (and prompt) support was very appreciated...

Hi again,
I have flashed once more the ARTE_DOPODAU_12570702_026990_WWE_SHIP.exe onto my Artemis and I have (FINALLY) noticed that the SIM does register and I am able to use the phone (incoming & outgoing calls).
The only problem is that every time I reboot I get a notification from the "NETWORK WIZARD" which says "your current operator (20416) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor".... Any idea how I can get this nag off my back?
Thanks

try to check \windows\startup

I have deleted (& made a copy for backup) these 5 files:
netwiz.cpl
netwiz.dat
netwiz.exe
netwiz.exe.0404.mui
netwiz.ini
from the Windows folder of my Artemis.
After rebooting the Network Wizard notification does NO LONGER pops up!!!! So I would say "Problem solved", right?
I am glad that -thanks to the recent communications we exchanged- you "inspired" me to give one more try to the Dopod rom and I finally seem to have found what I wanted.
Only one final point: In other roms if you click on the phone signal bar you get the option to turn on/off the flight mode and if you click on the icon on the right of the phone signal bar you culd turn on/off the WiFi... in this rom you get a small (blue) Comm Manager link to follow in order to enable/disable these functions.... did you find any faster ways to activate WiFi or Flight mode? May be they can be added to the voice commands?
Cheers

u can use phonealarm-some skins supports one click wifi, gprs,btooth switch,

I saw phonealarm but I have decided to spend the end of the weekend configuring my newly installed rom (immediately after I will make a Sprite backup) and along the way try to think of something to keep to a minimum the amount of additional SW installed. What do you think if I use "tray launch", would that allow me to make the necessary shortcuts?
By the way (with previous roms) I kept my Artemis overclocked at 240 Mhz and it was pretty stable, did you test any higher frequency on the Dopod rom?

Bluetooth to Micro sd?

Hello everyone. I have just recently updated/flashed/done something to my phone to the Artemis Touch 4.02. Great rom so i have seen, no complaints with it. (Unsure what the proccess is actualy called.)
Only setback i have is that files i recive by bluetooth go straight to my main memory. What i would like to do is to have it go straight to my micro sd card, and to have a progress bar showing me the status.
I have tried a few programs.
DrYAR Bluetooth manager 1.5: Does what i need, but seems to be a little unstable. Sometimes freezes or will not connect to most phones.
DrYAR Bluetooth manager 1.6: Works great, only problem, if constently asks for every bit of the file you recive. So if its set to auto recive, theres alot of beeping going on.
DrYAR Bluetooth manager 2.0: I have seen this version somewhere, but i cant seem to download it
BT Tools: Dosnt seem to have many options.
Enable A2DP:Not sure where i got this from, but i had it from when i had a MDA Compact II. Worked for what i needed then. Dosnt seem to work on this one.
Broadcom Bluetooth Manager:Looks fantastic, many options to mess around with, but it just wount run on my device. Says there is not enogh memory to turn on bluetooth.
Is there any way i might make the first or last options work well, or is there another app i can try? So far it is a pain to move them over. I would like to keep the internal memory as free as possible.
Any more information you want do let me know.
PS Sorry for any spelling errors.

Is no one able to reply?

How about moBlue, works well on my Artemis and Diamond
HTH
Kim

Dosnt seem to work well on mine, still wants to use the windows version. Or sometimes the phone/whatever just doesnt connect

Well, I use moBlu as well on my Artemis & it works well. For it to work, you need to launch it before receiving a transfer via Bluetooth. You can set it up in its settings to make your phone discoverable when you launch the app & disconnect bluetooth when app is closed. And in the filters you will find 2-3 default filters, just select the "*.*" filter & set the location to a folder on your card. You can delete the other two filters or edit them & also add more if you want. They are file extension filters so if any file you are receiving matches them the filter will be applied & your file will be automatically stored in that specified filter folder.

today plugin bluetooth toggler

Hi,
I am look ing for a SIMPLE today plugin to fast switch on/off BT. I have tried a dozen but none of them seem to work. Strange. I used to have a HTC Universal (WM 6.1.) and there the BatteryStatus (name of the program) worked like a charm (even the last version homescreen_plusplus doesn't work on the rhodium) I tried exe versions (like BtOnOff.exe)and cabs (like BlueTogglerSetup). So I am starting to think I am missing sth. Anybody a suggestion?
Oh yeah, the indicators do switch on of these plugins (when i switch on BT trough settings-connections) so they detect the state of BT but are not able to switching on them selfs?
Help welcome!
thx in advance
greetz
Kjoere
(damn, i am missing my solid universal!)

Read the very first post in this forum! The very first paragraph. The search function works well ;-)
Pro2 use a different bluetooth stack than all previous models. Currently I have not seen other BT toggles that is working, but I expect they will come later.
I have CommManager assigned to the send button, so it is no big issue for me.
The biggest issue is, that the BT headset controls are hardcoded to WMP/HTCPlayer, so I can not use my favorite mediaplayer.

thx
thx, yeah I searched and read about the BT problems.
I just wanted to check in to see if there was sth new going on this front.
I hope you didn't mind too much.
In the mean time I assigned comm manager to a soft key in combination with 2 today screens it is feasable, but definitely not sth I want as a final result.
greetz,
Kjoere