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Contacts / Edit before dialing a phone number

Hi everyone... I am new to the PPC world... being just recently swatch from my Treo600 to a new XDA2s, I am having a little difficulty getting used to the Microsoft way of doing things in PPC2003... I am just wondering is there anyone who can help me or point me to the right direction where I can get some external program that can help me from going insane... here's my problem... I usually keep a huge contact list with all my customer, supplier, co-worker, family and friends contact all in my PDA... so the usual way for me to make a phone call is to search it from the contact list... but here's my problem, I travel alot with my job and depending on my current location, I have to edit the number in my contact before I dial the number... in my old palm, I can simply edit the number before I dial that number (there's a funtion on my palm that allows you to edit before call... so it allows me to edit the number without physically changing the number in my contact list)... I am just wondering can PPC do that? Or is there any program in PPC that will allow me to do that? As far as I can see... in PPC, as soon as I have search for a contact and then I click on his or her number with my stylist... it will automatically dial... I can not edit it before I dial... the only way I can edit it before I dial is to physically edit the contacts... which is very annoying as I sync my contacts with my exchange server, I don't wanna to have to have all my contact get mess up with different area code and dialling code from different country... anyone know how can I solve this problem? Thanks for your help in advance... I very much appriciate all of your advice in advance... Peter

I think the most straightforwards solution here is to store all of your numbers in the international dialling format; that way, wherever you are, your device will place the call correctly
For example - if I had a contact in Glasgow, UK, it would be stored as +44141xxxxxxx (+44 for UK, 141 for Glasgow and the remaining seven digits as the local number)
In my experience whenever I have been abroad, any calls to any of my stored numbers are placed correctly first time by either my SmartPhone or PPC.
If you're problem is regarding a slightly different issue then please expand on your problem by detailing what you mean by "modifying" your contact before you dial.

My problem is a little bit more complicated I think... I already has most number stored in the international dialing format... but my problem is that, depending on my location, I have to dial a certian set of numbers in front of the phone number to be dial in order for me to save on long distance and roaming... for example, while I am roaming in Mainland China if I want to dial home in Hong Kong with my mobile... normally, I will dial 0085226****88 but that will cost me like USD2 per minute... but if I dial with a prefix of 17909 (hence I will type in: 179090085226****88) then my per minute charge will now be something like USD0.10 per minute... which is a huge saving especially when I make roaming and long distance call all the time... the same thing in Hong Kong, if I dial 1666 before I dial long distance, I will get a much higher savings over regular long distance... my problem is that I can not possibly store all of these information for all the locations that I am going to be in, each places that I am going to be in, have a different sets of number... so is there any intellegent way to add additional numbers in front of the number stored in the contacts before it is being dialed in pocket pc? I know on my old palm... I can solve this problem in two ways... 1) I can set a certain dialing prefix before the system dial any number (normally I leave that blank, as I prefer edit before dial function)... I can use this prefix function but it will require me to change the prefix when I am at a different location but it is a workable solutions... is there something like that in PPC? 2) The second way to solve this was the edit before dialing function on the palm... I just click on the number, it allows me to edit the number temporary before it is automatically paste onto the phone software and before the phone dials it...
Anyway, I know this is very complicated and it is a very rare issues thats probably just affecting me or a very small number of users... but it will be great if there's some simple solutions to this... but I think this problem is mainly due to the lack of flexiblilty in the contact list rather then the function of the phone itself! :O) Anyway, thank you very much for your help and suggestions again... very much appriciate it :O) Peter

Try if this works
http://www.handango.com/Platform ... sp?productId=152403

Can you please post the link again? It doesn't work :O) Thanks for your help :O) What kind of program is it? :O)

here's the link
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you got it all wrong
... if you ask me: your approach is wrong. Here are the basics. Windows XP, for instance and Outlook, that is the source of the contacts (and phone numbers and other details that are entered), stores phone numbers in this 'international' format:
country code (MS has a list of countries and codes of its own)
are code (another, separate field) and
number
If you respect the fields provided by Outlook then you get a number generated by Outlook that looks like this:
+381 (064) 6185250
THIS is the 'correct' international format recognised by Microsoft Phone Dialer (well not actually MS but Active Voice, but that is a completely different issue)
My point is that +448704364673 is NOT a correct international phormat, because MS cannot differentiate between the international country code and long distance (area code) and therefore the phone dialer cannot parse the numbers correctly.
NOW, how to get the system to know WHERE you are and should it use the area code when dialing or you are in the area your friend is, or you want to call a toll free number that is in 'another' area, or you are dialing a client abroad etc. Well, there is the 'Dialing Rules' settings! THERE you create a profile (home, office, abroad etc.) and provide the area code for the dialer to differentiate...
This is all well with the Windows XP/Outlook 2002+ I know well, BUT when it comes to PPC... sorry, I have the same problem...>
FACTS:
fact no. 1: Outlook separates phone numbers in groups of>
country code
long distance code (area code)
number
fact no. 2: phone numbers entered this way are stored in a format>
+381 (064) 6185250
fact no. 2: Microsoft Phone Dialer recognises this number and dials correctly
via a voice modem... (headset or speaker/mike required)
Question: what hapens when contacts entered this way into Outlook are sunchronized with the
Pocket PC (Windows Mobile 5.0)?
Answer : all contact's numbers are entered into the Contacts list in the 'correct' format.
(the same format with the bracket, as is noted in PC Outlook)
My findings: the problem arrises when you use your mobile capable Pocket PC
(i.e. the super cool Qtek 9000) and try to dial someone on to his mobile or office phone that are on another
area code...
the Pocket PC, or Windows Mobile 'Phone dialer' dials EXACTLY
as the number is entered in the above mentioned format
(the mobile operator recognises the + at the beggining of the number, but
does not understand the spaces and the brackets!!! and offcourse
the mobile operator returns an error voice message that a wrong number has been dialed!
What am I to do?
Can I find/download/install a proper phone dialer (i.e. MS Phone Dialer) that comes with Windows?
Phone Dialer 1.5
Developed for Microsoft by Active Voice
http://www.activevoice.com/dialer
bottom line is that CISCO systems aquired this Phone Dialer in 2001 and Active Voice discontinued developing/supporting whit app. (link on the Active Voice site is outdated and no support on MS site, as well)
(please do not post solutions as: "you should reformat your number entries etc. because I have 800+ contacts and counting...)
P.S. what I gathered is that this is not device related it is just OS and app related. I had the same problem with my previous Nokia phone... (I did not solve. Actually I thought I will solve with this device...)
I've set the Dialing Rules with my country code and area code (Mobile etc.) So, I don't have a clue what am I doung wrong

Removing area code on BA

THis may be a newb question, and i had it set up somehow while running WM2003 but i cant seem to remove the brackets on the numbers that are calling me, so i have to redo about 400 contacts just so that i can get their name on screen while they are calling me
Example:
The phone now whenever someone is calling me it shows (697)6767676 and i want to make it 6976767676,
Help!

dont fret and worry about it...
it's just a display (it's hardcoded in Windows to show the first three in parenthesis) ... the real numbers dont have the any special chars aside from p w +, et. al.

Yes i know its only a display thingamajig, although whenever i get a call from someone it wont show me their name unless i have altered the actual number with so that it contains the brackets in the contact itself :S

dumraden said:
Yes i know its only a display thingamajig, although whenever i get a call from someone it wont show me their name unless i have altered the actual number with so that it contains the brackets in the contact itself :S
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None of my contacts have ( ) stored in their numbers, The format I used is +country_code number and every time someone calls me with or without the country code showing it displays the name that corresponds. Example: I have have a contact named Fred Murphy with the number +965 1234567 when he calls if I am in Kuwait it shows only as 123-4567 if I am overseas it shows as +965 123-4567 both times I see his name Fred Murphy on my screen. It has always been this way for me no matter which version of windows I have run. I was not aware that it worked any other way.

You have to choose your regional settings correctly and it will disappear.
settings > system > regional settings.
JP

or
check for duplicate phone number entries...
even though you have the name in the sim and the phone, the phone cant decide which name to show, so our phone shows only the number.

Caller ID Format Problems

Hello everyone, I installed RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE on my phone and it is workig great. The problem I am having is that in my country phone numbers consist of only 8 digits fotmated XXXXXXXX or XXXX-XXXX y my contacts list BUT when someone calls me his/her name does not come up, instead I get for example: (XXX)XXX-XX because the caller ID format seems to be (XXX)XXX-XXXX (expecting an area code) So I never get to se de name of the caller, instead I get a poorly readable number. How can I fix this?
TIA!

LOL, Try Moving to America, where we use these style phone numbers!
TheMasta said:
Hello everyone, I installed RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE on my phone and it is workig great. The problem I am having is that in my country phone numbers consist of only 8 digits fotmated XXXXXXXX or XXXX-XXXX y my contacts list BUT when someone calls me his/her name does not come up, instead I get for example: (XXX)XXX-XX because the caller ID format seems to be (XXX)XXX-XXXX (expecting an area code) So I never get to se de name of the caller, instead I get a poorly readable number. How can I fix this?
TIA!
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TheMasta said:
Hello everyone, I installed RUU_Excalibur_WM61_Kavana_080408_WWE on my phone and it is workig great. The problem I am having is that in my country phone numbers consist of only 8 digits fotmated XXXXXXXX or XXXX-XXXX y my contacts list BUT when someone calls me his/her name does not come up, instead I get for example: (XXX)XXX-XX because the caller ID format seems to be (XXX)XXX-XXXX (expecting an area code) So I never get to se de name of the caller, instead I get a poorly readable number. How can I fix this?
TIA!
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Did you try changing your Regional Settings to match the country you're in ?

Store all phone numbers in international "+" format
The key is to store all your numbers in full international format.
+CCCAANNNNNNNNNN
where CCC is the country code, AA is the area code (omiting any leading zeros in most countries) and NNNNNNNNNN is the local phone number.
For ease of use in your address book, you can space the digits out, or add parentheses or dashes, as these are ignored at dialing/matching time. It makes the numbers easier to read.
Eg. +CCC-AA-NNNNN-NNNNN, +CCC (AA) NNNNN-NNNNN would be treated the same.
All GSM phones receive the complete international designation phone numbers on incoming calls - so it will match on the full number always.
Based on your SIM, and your country's dialing rules built into the SIM, it will also match on numbers that have no country code, but have a complete local area code (including leading zero if appropriate) and complete number. This is to allow it to match on non mobile phone originated calls. I believe it will assume your local country code based on your SIM, and apply the appropriate zero stripping rules to the received caller ID to create a fully qualified international number to match on.
This also takes all the guess work out of making calls should you ever roam into another country. For example, if you live in the USA and store a number for Ireland as 01135312345678 - this will work from the USA. But, if you travel to Ireland, where the international access code is not 011 - but rather 00 - that number will fail. Storing the numbers with the "+" prefix instead of the local international access prefix allows the SIM card to do the work. The SIM card registers on the roaming provider's nerwork, and "asks" that network how to dial a "+".
Finally, the presentation of the number on screen is just a factor of the application that is displaying it. If you use the international format for your numbers, they will successfully match, and will display the number in the format in which you have stored them in your address book. If they don't match, they will display using the default number interpreting logic of whatever ROM you have loaded. For most of us here, that would be the Brighpoint USA ROM or the T-Mobile ROM - both of which try to format numbers as USA style AAA-XXX-NNNN
Hope this helps

Thank you, I entered +COUNTRY_CODE in the phone settings call options and it is working now.
Thanks a lot!!

TheMasta said:
Thank you, I entered +COUNTRY_CODE in the phone settings call options and it is working now.
Thanks a lot!!
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How to go the phone settings call option

Solved.

[Q] Caller ID mapping

I have my new HTC Trophy set up to sync with Exchange/Outlook. I'm in Norway, so my contacts phone numbers are stored in Outlook in this format: +47 12345678
Now, when in Norway and getting incoming calls from 12345678, the phone does not recognize the caller.
Is this a known issue? Any workarounds other than removing +47 from all my contacts?

I'm having the same issue!
Anyone know how to setup WP7 to recognize not only the full number?

Nothing new here?

i noticed that in the windows live contacts section you can specify which country the contact is in,..would that help?
i don't know..i'm not having these problems to be honest!

In outlook you store the phone number with +47 but when you dial the number, you want to dial it without the +47
Is that correct?
I have had similar issues with other phones with extra "0" in between region/country/city codes, for example in Germany.
I have a couple of ideas:
1. There is the International Dialing assist function. I have no idea what it does other than what's described undertneat it... Does that do anything helpful?
2. What if you create a separate Windows Live account, and add in /copy your contacts, without the +47; then link the two contacts. The contacts will appear as just 1 contact in your phone, and you'll have the option to call with or without the +47

So here is the deal:
I have set all my contacts mobile numbers using the right local area code (for example 04111-8181-8181) so when I’m traveling to other city the call is routed correctly. But when someone call me I receive the number without the area code (example 8181-8181) and the phone did not match this with the contact.
So the problem is not when I'm dialing the number but when I receive an incoming call from my contacts.
I don't know what this International Assist do too but is turned On.
And hboos, I didn't find where I do set up this Country in Live Contacts but I don't think that this is the problem since all of my most important contacts are coming from Outlook.
Thanks

I store all my contacts like this one: +49123456 without any spaces. My HD7 recognizes them all. Perhaps you have to remove the space?

Well, if removing the spaces/formatting doesn't work, you can always go with my other suggestion. Create a separate address book in a Windows Live account with the incoming CID number, and link the two contacts on WP7 (open contact 1, click the chain link at the bottom, click contact 2). WP7 is even smart enough to suggest you likely links.

Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.

Just an update, didn't work removing all the spaces

I've got the same problem. Living in Norway, syncing with Exchange/Outlook and storing all my phone numbers with a +47 prefix. I'm sure creating a windows live contact for each of my Exchange/Outlook contact and link them would work. But with 800+ contacts, the thought of maintaining two lists doesn't sound like a feasible solution for me.
I've tried the following.
Using a 0047 prefix instead of the +47. Same problem.
Removing any spaces that Outlook add automatically. Same problem
Using a windows live contacts instead of Outlook/Exchange contacts. Same problem.
The best solution I've come up with so far, is to store all my Outlook/Exchange contacts with two numbers. One without the prefix and one with. This isn't really working either I like to store mobile number where they belong.
However, everything seams to work as expected with SMS/MMS messages. The +47 prefix doesn’t cause any problems what so ever.

Now with some developers already getting access to WP7 registry I think it's a matter of time to find the entry to edit

surfing10 said:
Talys, this suggestion lead me to another question: Is there one button to link all my contacts or I need to go one by one (because I have 1200+ contacts).
I'll try to remove the spaces.
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I don't think there's a button to automatically link your contacts.... that's a lot of contacts to link! But you only need to link the ones that are important for Call Display, right? So the list would be smaller?

i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting

jullian_d said:
i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?

surfing10 said:
Sorry to bring that again but that's THE POINT!! We need to hack the registry to edit this.
Anyone have done this?
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no....there is no access YET to the registry or file system

try this reg key
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone]
"CallIDMatch"=dword:7

Have you tried Settings -> Applications -> phone and International assist - On?

jullian_d said:
i always have the same problem on wm6 and had was to edit the registry caller ID match the default is 8 so if you change it to 6 or 7 then it will be ok..so its just to get access to the wp7 registy to change that setting
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I don't think this is the problem, or if it is, the default value is higher than 8 as all phonenumbers in Norway has 8 digits. 11 if you also count the +47.
In any case, works fine for me using Telia in Sweden - I have numbers stored in a variety of ways including +46 (0123) 12345 as well as +4612312345 and they all seem to show who's calling. Could be it's operator dependant somehow?

I have the same problem, my contacts are synced from Google. Country Slovenia, format +386 31xxxxxx. Number does not link to name of the contact. Tried Caller ID fix from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=907971, but problem remains. Can someone try and see if it works for him?

Adding pause to phone number

Hello,
I been searching to figure out how to add a pause between phone number and conference ID/extension. I've tried adding a comma (,), "p", and period (.) without success. Tried by adding this to a contact's phone number - such as 555-555-1234pp123456# or 555-555-1234,,123456#, etc.
Does anyone know of a solution? Is this a limitation in Windows Phone in general or is this OEM specific?
Thanks for your help.

Add the contact using Windows Live, Outlook, or however else you can add commas and still have it sync, then it works.
ie:
mobile phone
(800) 555-8355 ,2548
Add more commas if needed.

Is there anyway to add pause to voicemail number ? i hate entering the password everytime ..

trueblog said:
Is there anyway to add pause to voicemail number ? i hate entering the password everytime ..
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Before you do this, read the Last Paragraph.
1. Go into your settings and then Phone Settings and write down your Voicemail number. Be sure to copy it exactly, including spaces.
2. Open Office on your phone and start a new Word Document. Type your Voicemail number exactly as you saw it.
3. Add a p after the number and then type your password. Now, highlight and copy this new number.
4. Go back to your phone settings and paste this new number including the p and password.
5. Back out and see if that worked. If you have any trouble, put the old number back into phone settings.
I'll change numbers so you don't have mine, but here's an example:
+1 (415) 497-1234p1234
This works on ATT. We also have an option to bypass password completely within the Voicemail settings menu after calling voicemail. On ATT it's option 2, then passwords, then turn off password.

Hey what i did was just type the number in a text editor and pasted to contact detail.. it worked