Site slowing down? - About xda-developers.com

I've noticed in the past few days or so that any page on this site would take an average of around 20 seconds to load... I have a 9mb/s download speed so it isn't on my end. It is pretty quick today but was there some sort of attack on the site a few days ago?

Roflcopterrr said:
I've noticed in the past few days or so that any page on this site would take an average of around 20 seconds to load... I have a 9mb/s download speed so it isn't on my end. It is pretty quick today but was there some sort of attack on the site a few days ago?
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Same here with a 4Mb speed

i have 8mb speed and have found it have even to connect to the site, think its getting overloaded.
needs a upgrade

Fundraising campaign
Perhaps should be a fundraising campaign to help buy more bandwith
Maybe dear Mods & Admin can implement it
Count me in!

orb3000 said:
Perhaps should be a fundraising campaign to help buy more bandwith
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In anyway.. Click much as possible those sponsored links.

It is crazy SLOOOOOOOOW from here where I sit (NYC) - I click and then it takes 10 secs until any reply then it starts loading and that's another extra 10-20 secs... it's literally unusable.

Lets just get rid of the people we don't like, so the rest of us can have fast clear bandwidth

today it is definately the slowest I've seen in some time...maybe everyone is powering down for earth day?

Now it´s ok again!
Thanks Flar!!

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THE SITE HAS SLOWED DOWN

What has has happened. The site has slowed down so much it's almost unusable. HELP PLEASE.
I agree...
taking forever to open anything (if it opens at all). Keep getting page cannot be displayed, keep having to refresh page and hope for the best!!
Maybe time for a defrag? :lol:
the slowdown has probably something to do with the news about Windows Mobile 2005..
its been slow like this for months. nothing to do with wm2005
strange. yet the ftp seems fast as anything.
This site is really painfully slow. My company is willing to donate a full dedicated server for hosting purposes. Please PM me if you interested.
The site hasn't been accessible for the past 5 hours, and now it's back, it's unusably slow, as it has been for several days. If I didn't have a broadband connection, I'd have long since stopped using the forum.
This does need sorting out. ASAP
Add to that the FTP server gets wiped out, its slowly becoming no fun to post, write in wiki nor answer the cries of help form the comunaty.
Still no answers on this? Been slow for ages - more than once I have done a reply, but the page has timed out and I could not be bothered to re-trype it all. I can't be the only one!!! R
This site feels like its running off a home DSL connection. Its been like this for a year. I ran accross this site in june 2004 and it was super slow back then. I wondered how so many people can post and write with such a slow site. I thoght it was a backbone problem, but I am using a different ISP and different location and its still slow.
WOW!
Something has happened because the site is flying today!
Hope its not just an April's Fool joke :lol:

Site Very Slow?

Has anyone else noticed that the site has become very slow? it is taking around a minute or so to load each page and if it has images on the page..... your looking at putting the kettle on before its loaded! LOL
Is the server just having a go slow or is there a prob somewhere along the lines?
Same here, been like it about a week for me
It's working fine for me, the pages are loading at the normal speed.
Site very slow?
Yes the site is very slow.....(((((((
From Rio de Janeiro Brazil.
Yes same here : very very slow almost unusable...
Yes it is painfully slow from here. Unusable !!! really.
Yes the site is _very_ slow from Germany too.
Maybe the server is overloaded by the many users and posts :lol:
I experience a few 'periods' where the site is very slow- not just in the last few days. On the whole it's a usable speed.
Suppose that's what you get with a voluntary(?) site with no ads.
Perhaps more donations from users would resolve this issue (says he who hasn't done so himself :shock: )
We know it's too slow. We're working on it. We are currently researching a lot of option, including professionalising what has been a back-burner hobby project. Stay tuned, more news and a longer post about this soon...
I'm having difficulty posting at all now. This seems like a more recent problem than any inherent slowness
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well if its your host messing you around, then i can arrange some VERY cheap hosting for this site, cheaper than anything you can find!
Speed again ! Great
yeahh!!!
"WILD THING! de de de de, YOU MAKE MY HEART SING!" :lol: 8)
What was the problem in the end, Peter? Care to share for the curious ones?
christopherwoods said:
What was the problem in the end, Peter? Care to share for the curious ones?
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Cryx, our heroic god-like sysadmin, has updated the FreeBSD that sits underneath xda-developers.com and installed something called eAccelerator. (The FreeBSD upgrade brought most of the speed increase, I am told.) All of this is sort of stop-gap though, the way phpBB talks to the MySQL database just doesn't easily scale to the size of this operation.
For the slightly longer run, Cryx has joined our star PHP-programmer Elisa in working on the first preparations for the monster logistical operation of switching board software. All in all we're going to be making some profound changes in the way xda-developers looks, works and feels.
Much more news will follow in January, but the gist is that there will be full-time paid people (not me) on call for xda-developers. The flip-side of that is that we will likely have a moderate amount of non-obtrusive ads in the not too distant future. We're still researching and building it all, so all of this is very fresh thinking.

New Servers - Any Difference?

This is really just a test to make sure things are working correctly, but I might as well make a poll.
Huge difference...
Thanks!
Yeah, noticed a massive difference, smoother & faster
mutch better
WOW!!!
wow svetous. These new servers are rather snappy! ive been here for well over 2 years, and this is the fastest I've seen XDA!!!
Great work, it is really fast now! Thanks!
BTW svetius, I've sent you a PM about a news article again (changes at xda, part 2).
Very acceptable speed at present
Still see periodic short lags, but nothing at unacceptable levels. Noticable only really because by comparison some pages are loading very fast.
Mike
mikechannon said:
Very acceptable speed at present
Still see periodic short lags, but nothing at unacceptable levels. Noticable only really because by comparison some pages are loading very fast.
Mike
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This seems to be a common issue, even before new servers where in place. Some pages take a while to load, others are really fast in comparison. Worth investigating IMHO
Could be related to external images / ads taking there time to server, or your PC / Browsers performance.
Dave
Wow, much master
not noticed any slowdowns using chromium with an adblocker running.
but a couple of slight ones with opera 10.50 which does load everything, so it may be what Dave suggested, certainly one ad from handtec seems to take a while
Otherwise it's superb! it's like it rolled back 5 years
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Could be related to external images / ads taking there time to server, or your PC / Browsers performance.
Dave
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hmmm, I'll have a look but my addblocker is on and this only appears to happen on XDA at both work and at home
Si...muy bueno
Very good and fast...thumbs up!
Even fast on my 3g connection
Yeah, some difference, not huge but much better
this is awesome. thank you!
Yeah, finally average page loading times compared to many other sites . But nonetheless great work, I like the change that has come here! Thanks a lot svetius, Flar and all the other people, you're awesome!
It's so much better! No more waiting up to 30 seconds just to go to the next page. Nice work!
I was gonna praise them. But all of a sudden, I kept getting 500 Errors as well as 504. Ridiculous.
Must be part of the transition process
Her I got like 20 min of 500 error but now all ok

PLEASE encourage torrents over upload sites

I posted something quite similar to this in the thread for Nexus Beam, but I wanted to post it here too. I think it would be awesome if the xda community began to promote generation of torrent files of ROMs instead of the de-facto standard now of upload sites. It is simple to create the torrents, especially for people who are ROM developers, and it allows us to access the files easily, indefinitely, and without additional cost. I would really love it if this mechanism became widely used.
You can use the tracker at http://openbittorrent.com . It doesn't list the files anywhere and doesn't provide links so the torrent is still only available to those with whom you share it (and within the swarm via DHT).
I just spent 1.5 hours downloading a ROM and I'm in a time-sensitive situation here so I find that really sad when it could have been done in seconds if someone had created a torrent instead of relying on 6-8 crappy upload sites that cap speeds, make users wait or look at ads, etc.
I would love to hear thoughts and opinions on this.
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21691582&postcount=1888 for an example.
No. Far too many ISPs worldwide throttle bittorrent (mine makes it just about impossible to send or receive any data with the bittorrent protocol)
I totally support the idea, totally! I hate the download queue and then typing captcha words - it's annoying and I hate it!
Please, at least try making torrent files!
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No. Far too many ISPs worldwide throttle bittorrent (mine makes it just about impossible to send or receive any data with the bittorrent protocol)
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BitTorrent has several mechanisms to circumvent ISP throttling, including protocol "encryption" (which is actually obfuscation, not encryption) and µTP, and most ISPs have stopped throttling it by now.
The files we're trading are relatively small so even if the connection is throttled it's still likely going to come down faster than it would on depositfiles et al -- much BitTorrent ISP throttling is upstream only, also, which makes it even less relevant.
On top of all of this, nothing stops you from ALSO uploading to multiupload or whatever file sharing site you want. If someone is in your situation, they can still download from depositfiles or ******* or whatever and are not any worse off.
I just would be happy to see torrents become a staple here. They work much better for most of us.
No very bad idea!
Lot of Dev's have a account at dev hosting site which is fast/free. Knowing torrents you know that yes they can be fast but all depends on seeds & leechers. So no seeds or leechers exceed, your worse off. In this scenario, how they are doing it is great. Always there always fast. Just no resume, but that's it. For those who complain about captchas and queue times, sign up don't have any of that. I have one cause for how much money you save is worth it by far. It's $10/month. Also lot of people just download from there phones (like me) so you would even have to get extra app on your phone, & good ones still even cost.
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torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
TRusselo said:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Agreed. Torrents are good for some things and bad for others. Most people either do not seed after finishing a download, or seed very little. All this would amount to would be the dev/host of the file uploading significantly more, and using significantly more of their own bandwidth.
rational Canadians...
I'd support this 100% if it wasn't for the fact that my home ISP throttles BitTorrent like mad, and it seems outright banned at my university.
Auridran said:
Agreed. Torrents are good for some things and bad for others. Most people either do not seed after finishing a download, or seed very little. All this would amount to would be the dev/host of the file uploading significantly more, and using significantly more of their own bandwidth.
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I disagree. I use torrents extensively and seed everything for months at a time. I know many others who do the same. If the uploader wants only to upload once, it is trivial to set an upload limit to 1.00 share ratio, meaning the uploader would only upload once. Once it's out in the swarm it can proliferate wildly even if the dev or original seeder drops off ASAP.
TRusselo said:
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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This really has little to do with the number of torrents you have active/queued in your client and more to do with the speed limits and rules that you set in your client specifically. Most torrents do NOT upload data 24/7 and especially in a case like this where the ROM changes quickly the torrents will have a relatively short shelf life for active leechers.
Again, I do not think torrents should be the ONLY distribution mechanism, but I think they should be considered a first class distribution method and encouraged at least alongside upload sites if they can't replace them entirely.
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
Valir said:
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
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Why is it more difficult for devs? I don't get it. A person who can build an Android ROM can surely figure out a torrent client.
I've established many reasons why we should "make more work" by using torrents. One I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that torrents automatically split files into chunks and checksums each chunk before checksumming the entire download. This provides automatic verification -- obviously very important for the kind of files being uploaded to XDA. If there is some corruption, the corrupted pieces only are discarded and redownloaded, potentially saving tons of bandwidth and time for individuals with shoddy connections that occasionally corrupt downloads. This is much more difficult to do with HTTP.
Valir said:
I agree, if torrents are used, it will be more difficult for devs, means double the work for them. Keep it simple. Why make more work?.
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I'm thinking it's all mainly because people don't want to type in a captcha! Lot of some people just can't take extra minute & support the hard work of these developers. Majority have careers, families. There putting there extra time to help and make stuff for others, with the majority not asking for anything in return except hit thanks, and a OPTION to donate. If you download a butt load of stuff from these creators/developers, to apps, to movies how hard is it to just donate/ get a subscription to a sharing site. To say thank you. These sites are used to help with that, (the un appreciation of users) and the developers appreciation to us users to keep it on a Thanks / Donation Basis.
What is it with the world now days? someone don't have a life, and whines. From TV shows (controversial, language), to the Internet to here. it's getting bad now. May think what this have to do with this? This is where it starts. everyone always trying to change the system for themself. Been same way for YEARS, & For a reason.
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cookiecaper said:
Why is it more difficult for devs? I don't get it. A person who can build an Android ROM can surely figure out a torrent client.
I've established many reasons why we should "make more work" by using torrents. One I haven't mentioned in this thread yet is that torrents automatically split files into chunks and checksums each chunk before checksumming the entire download. This provides automatic verification -- obviously very important for the kind of files being uploaded to XDA. If there is some corruption, the corrupted pieces only are discarded and redownloaded, potentially saving tons of bandwidth and time for individuals with shoddy connections that occasionally corrupt downloads. This is much more difficult to do with HTTP.
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Why do they have to take more time out of the hours/days as it is, cause it will save you maybe 5 minutes.
You really have not made a point yet honestly! It 'takes longer' in a share site, how? Type a captcha in, maybe a 'slower speed' which you won't really notice, may cause minuites at most. it's going to average out, also it WILL DOWNLOAD why? Cause it don't need seeds.
These People are putting in HOURS ON HOURS ON DAYS FOR THIS STUFF. NOT EVEN CHARGING FOR THEIR HARD WORK, AGAIN THESE SITES ASSURE THEM FROM CHARGING CAUSE THE GET A LITTLE BIT FOR ALL THE DOWNLOADS. Your waiting 5 minutes? What's the issue? Seriously that's sad & Very un appreciative , Sorry just calling how I see it!
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With 2 of the sites used by MultiUpload taken down I think it's only a matter of time before the rest go.
XDA probably can't host the files, but what about a tracker?
Well first. No roms are uploaded to xda.
Second this has been brought up many times and each time it ends the same way. Most developers use their own hosting and don't trust torrents. In the end it is up to the developer how he wants to put up their roms. To be honest alot don't even use torrents.
TRusselo said:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Unless of course all site go down...now that would be a likely course of action right at this moment. FileSonic and Uploaded.to is gone.
TRusselo said:
torrents only work as long as they are seeded. many files we use on xda must be moved, edited, or worked with, and you cant work on a file that is being seeded, so many users download then stop it so they can move and work with the files, and no longer seed, so if the host shuts off his computer, there will be little to no seeders, also if the host is the only one seeding, and is a high demand large file, it will be maxed out for the first hour or more till others get 100% and collects a few other seeders.
if there is little to no seeding, or a slow connection on the host side, the forums would FILL with complaints.
It would cause more issues than solve.
USE www.multiupload.com to host your files on multiple sites at one time. then they wont disappear when one site goes down.
personally - my utorrent only will have 2 download/uploads MAX ever at any time including seeding.
thats how i can download at 2.7 MB/s (full bandwidth) when other people are complaining of slow seeding on a torrent. I want to watch a 1.5 gig movie? I have it in 15 minutes. because i dont have 50 million things seeding and downloading at a time.
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Let's say, slow seeding and downloading at 1.7 MB/s. Thanks damn fu**ing fast for some countries (i.e. Brasil, wich I download at 1.0 MB/s at night (most seeders active)). I pay a lot (everything in here is so expensive compared to Europe/North America, eletronics cost 2 to 3 times more than in US). And I make part from the minory who can pay for this. 1.0 MB/s is damn fast, as the brazilian average is 100 to 200 KB/s.
What I mean is, look at the other side. One thing you are complaining without base.
@topic: I +1'ed this ideia. Is better and we avoid the file losing on the closing sites. We can still use Dropbox/Box.net/Minus/etc. and file sharing sites (Mediafire/Filesonic/dead Megaupload) to share minor files (i.e hotfixes, apps, themes, etc.)

Question to the E4GT Community, Would you donate to keep a fast Mirror available?

Before I start sfhub's mirror is in no danger of going anywhere and I am pretty sure after the ICS OTA drops traffic will return to normal. But just in case I want to sample the community.
These questions go mainly to those that benefit from the speed (ie people with high speed internet 30 to 135 Mbps):
1 - Would you donate to keep something like sfhub's second mirror available, increase capacity?
2 - Would anyone want to donate to add your favorite developer, etc to the server (this is kind of broad, not sure it would be doable).
3 - Would these minor donations effect your donating to the developers you already support? (I would not really want this).
Sites like Dev Host which supports XDA greatly at this point and other sites have their place. These types of sites use a network spanning countries, the globe and deliver content on a massive scale. But under load the wait to get your firmware and be on with your day can be massive. But even under some of the faster slow speeds its pretty livable. I mean who doesn't have a few minutes? But in the small scope I cover people can grab full tars in a matter of seconds to a minute if they have a fast enough internet connection. My current limit is in how much data we can move not how fast we can move it.
I am not here to get into business with this. I pay for the server out of my own pocket and am happy to do so at the level I am now. But traffic is UP while the server and the carrier line have the capacity, the funding for additional transfer is not there. 1 Gbps this cheap just does not come unmetered that I know of.
I am looking at having to drop BriefMobile or get their beneficiaries to donate just to cover their end of this. BriefMobile knew what they were getting into when I brought them on and thats a matter not really applying to this.
Sfhub's users are currently at double the previous peaks and the average usage is now right at the limit to keep usage in check. I think once the OTA drops and everyones switched over traffic will probably dive even with more and more people using my mirror.
How much?
Were talking a dollar here and there from a few people every month. Seriously 20 bucks a month would handle the additional usage we encounter now (per client) or add another person on.
The current usage graph for the moment is below as well as a look at overall usage so far. The first graph is on a 30 second sample of average traffic. Well below the 1 Gbps mark on a 30 second average but this amount of traffic eats up GB quick adds up to a couple Terabytes in no time:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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This is an idea of the usage over time. We went up a little on FD24/26 and then realy started rocketing up:
Each "pixel column" is an average over 2 hours time so the numbers of course are small.
Is there a reason the community doesn't use torrents? I'm sure we'd have plenty of seeders.
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Is there a reason the community doesn't use torrents? I'm sure we'd have plenty of seeders.
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No clue, I personally dont use them for anything I dont have to. Last time someone posted a torrent of something it took forever to download. Once I had it on the server I of course on my slow 25 Mbps home internet could grab it in just over a minute. I mean to serve up a torrent from people with say 5 Mbps up which is average for many high for some low for others. It would take 5 seeders raping their own connection for me to max out my home internet. 20 to match some of the people I see downloading from my server.
Do you usually max out your download speed from torrents of small ticket stuff like we download here? I mean when you only have 1000 people interested in downloading total versus 1 million for something else its hard to have many seeders. I game on this connection I would never seed a damn thing and let my Latency get screwed.
I don't have a problem donating for this at all. Downloading from a direct link (and quickly) , not having to click through 5 pages only to get a timer then a snail's pace DL is a godsend.
I'll donate if you and sfhub follow me phone to phone
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I'll donate if you and sfhub follow me phone to phone
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I actually wonder day to day, which phone is he going to next lol. Without donations in 2013 I am likely not to be here as a host for 2013. If all goes well in my life I will need to cut spending for a little while.
But I do want to continue to support him if he went to another phone, and if that happens to be a phone I like well, you know.
In case it helps your capacity planning, I will probably be out and unavailable for a while starting next month so won't be around here that much.
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I will probably be out and unavailable for a while starting next month so won't be around here that much.
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Yeah either way I assume the traffic would still drop with you here its just a matter of the OTA dropping, everyone eating it up and the leaks slowing to a crawl. Traffic would be mostly EL29, The Final ICS and maybe an occasional leak. But its getting thick and I figured it was time to get an idea if there was any support. I support you first and the capacity is there I just need to make plans for reducing elsewhere if I have to.
You are always on the go!
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No clue, I personally dont use them for anything I dont have to. Last time someone posted a torrent of something it took forever to download. Once I had it on the server I of course on my slow 25 Mbps home internet could grab it in just over a minute. I mean to serve up a torrent from people with say 5 Mbps up which is average for many high for some low for others. It would take 5 seeders raping their own connection for me to max out my home internet. 20 to match some of the people I see downloading from my server.
Do you usually max out your download speed from torrents of small ticket stuff like we download here? I mean when you only have 1000 people interested in downloading total versus 1 million for something else its hard to have many seeders. I game on this connection I would never seed a damn thing and let my Latency get screwed.
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I see your point. No doubt it would be slower, but if 5% of the 1,000 users seeded the swarm speed wouldn't be that terrible having 50 seeds and constant leechers popping in and contributing to the swarm.
Come to think about it.... These threads would be blasted with torrent questions, so forget it!
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Come to think about it.... These threads would be blasted with torrent questions, so forget it!
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There are people who use them and I am sure if a developer wanted to start a torrent for their work they would so no harm in talking about it. Something like the El29 one click would build up enough seeders but each leak would be dismal on the first day.
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I see your point. No doubt it would be slower, but if 5% of the 1,000 users seeded the swarm speed wouldn't be that terrible having 50 seeds and constant leechers popping in and contributing to the swarm.
Come to think about it.... These threads would be blasted with torrent questions, so forget it!
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I think Oscar created torrents and seeded the earlier releases.
If you like to create a torrent and seed, send me the link and I will add it.
EL29 already has a torrent, though I haven't check on the health recently.
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I think Oscar created torrents and seeded the earlier releases.
If you like to create a torrent and seed, send me the link and I will add it.
EL29 already has a torrent, though I haven't check on the health recently.
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The problem is it would only work if it was the only source. Otherwise, there would definitely be a shortage of seeders.
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RainMotorsports said:
There are people who use them and I am sure if a developer wanted to start a torrent for their work they would so no harm in talking about it. Something like the El29 one click would build up enough seeders but each leak would be dismal on the first day.
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Yeah, would definitely be a bummer in the beginning!
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jamesey said:
Yeah, would definitely be a bummer in the beginning!
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Well... and unless... and correct me if I am wrong. For those of you that like torrents for no particular reason Lp
What if my server was a seeder? What do I need to do to create a torrent file? Ive only sourced downloads never started one. Not saying I will because it means I have to get hands on every leak which is something we are moving away from.
RainMotorsports said:
Well... and unless... and correct me if I am wrong. For those of you that like torrents for no particular reason Lp
What if my server was a seeder? What do I need to do to create a torrent file? Ive only sourced downloads never started one. Not saying I will because it means I have to get hands on every leak which is something we are moving away from.
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Ahh that's an idea...if you were one of the seeders it would download fast. Maybe if you seeded day 1 of release and saved bandwidth by letting the rest download off the other seeds for the rest of that build.
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RainMotorsports said:
Well... and unless... and correct me if I am wrong. For those of you that like torrents for no particular reason Lp
What if my server was a seeder? What do I need to do to create a torrent file? Ive only sourced downloads never started one. Not saying I will because it means I have to get hands on every leak which is something we are moving away from.
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I never started one either. I can't imagine it being that difficult.
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jamesey said:
Ahh that's an idea...if you were one of the seeders it would download fast. Maybe if you seeded day 1 of release and saved bandwidth by letting the rest download off the other seeds for the rest of that build.
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Yeah what I would have to do is throttle torrent traffic to the point where it would benefit from multiple sources and overall this would lessen traffic for those who would rather torrent it. Though if I was on 50 Mbps to 100 Mbps fiber I would never torrent something I could download in 1 minute from a direct link!
I am shopping some data centers at the moment. Everything for the price I am about to be paying if I increase transfer does NOT have a 1 Gbps connection and thats just a deal breaker.
Whatever you did I would help donate and it wouldn't affect me donating to the developers.
a more practical solution than torrenting is to find some sort of php/sql script that will provide syncing/replication between a network of websites running said script. ampache (a popular php music/audio file manager and player) can replicate entire databases between multiple websites running the software so that each site mirrors eachother. you can set it run once a day, a few times/day/hour/etc etc. if we could find something like this for just regular files, and would also provide load-balancing between the sites then that would be perfect. i have unlimited webhosting to offer myself.
cnstarz said:
a more practical solution than torrenting is to find some sort of php/sql script that will provide syncing between a network of websites running said script. ampache (a php music audio file manager and player) can replicate entire databases between multiple websites running the software so that each site mirrors eachother. you can set it run once a day, a few times/day/hour/etc etc. if we could find something like this for just regular files, and would also provide load-balancing between the sites then that would be perfect.
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Well it just points to why I don't need to get involved with torrenting. For me to run multiple servers just means plain increased cost. I would be getting into business just like every file sharing site out there. Speed is not really an issue.
The current setup has no issue with delivering content to 90% of the users at up to 100 Mbps. I have actually only heard a single person complain but I have to assume there are bad connections to Chicago out there. At this point I can deliver 4 times what were pushing per second right now, the problem is the line is not unmetered
Unlike someone setup on a 100 Mbps uplink which can only delivery up to 12.5 MB/s simultaneously being on 1 Gbps uplink in theory you can deliver up to 125 MB/s simultaneously spread across various parts of the US. Since 80% of the people downloading have connections only 10 to 40 Mbps and only a few hitting 50, 75, rarely 100 Mbps for a single actual user not combined throughput I have never even touched 200 Mbps uplink outside of my personal use of the server.
The problem is a metered line comes with a particular amount of transfer and additional is additional cost. I would rather have a slower unmetered mirror ahead of mine, like mavd's and then have a faster secondary mirror helping those few who can benefit from it. Its my personal web server so changing to something else has to be for my benifit as well. All I do on top of that is increase the capacity needed for the contributors.
Trust me if I ever even tap 1/4 of the potential of my uplink on a regular basis id be in serious trouble We would be talking TB per day rather than how many hundred GB.
no no, you misunderstand. the script syncs between different webhosts/sites running the script. you and i could install the script on our servers and the two servers will communicate and sync across the interwebs magically.

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