i need help with rom cooking. i have flashed my phone more times than i can count and i have used kitchens and and i have downloaded many rom tools to my computer. i have attempted making a few rom and when i flash them the dont boot past the windows screen. really i am asking for someone to take me under their wing and help me in the ROM cooking process. i know i am not ready for the major league entirely custom stuff but basics. like fetting to know what the some of the stuff in sys. folders are and such. i am not a complete newb but i am not experienced in programming so any help would be very much apprecieated.i have lots of patience with this stuff i am just uneducated with it.i am a well known member senior member at ppcgeeks. i just though i would post here also because i know there are some cooking legends here such as DCD. anyone with some experience your time will be much apprecieted.
Cooking roms
There is an excellent rom already out there for this phone. Unlocks the GPS features and has some of the best freeware utilities already installed. Then just install the other apps you need afterwards. If you dont keep flashing your phone it wont be so much work to put all of your apps back on afterwards....
Not to say that flashing and cooking isnt fun.. I mean I flashed my HTC Wizard about 40 different times in one night even.... Til I found that perfect ROM for it. But the GPS Vogue rom that is out there pretty good. It has almost everything most people need in it already. With most of the newest versions of stuff. (albeit a FEW things were out dated).
Not to discourage or flame you from learning how to cook.
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There is an excellent rom already out there for this phone. Unlocks the GPS features and has some of the best freeware utilities already installed. Then just install the other apps you need afterwards. If you dont keep flashing your phone it wont be so much work to put all of your apps back on afterwards....
Not to say that flashing and cooking isnt fun.. I mean I flashed my HTC Wizard about 40 different times in one night even.... Til I found that perfect ROM for it. But the GPS Vogue rom that is out there pretty good. It has almost everything most people need in it already. With most of the newest versions of stuff. (albeit a FEW things were out dated).
Not to discourage or flame you from learning how to cook.
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i use the official ppckitchen over at ppcgeeks to add my own stuff to this ROM i just want to learn how to start doing this stuff so that i can get a better understanding of things and maybe eventually be one of the gurus around here and other places. i normally dont take things as flaming just tryng to be helpful as you see my status here but at ppcgeeks.com it is a different story. i love my vogue and i want to better my understanding of it.i am also trying to learn how to write programs in C++ that is also very difficult being that i am almost 16 and have no official training in any of this. thanks for the heads up but i have had that technology on my phone for months.
Hello people.
I'm intrigued to start customizing roms, perhaps even cooking for the general public. I'm looking for information on rom cooking/editing. Problem is there is so much info everywhere but I can't seem to find a good starting point that explains it all good for the rookie. Can anyone point me in some good directions?
Perhaps you can answer this question aswell, is it simple enough to edit roms?
(i.e. download a rom of my liking then removing and/or adding cooked apps?)
That's where I want to start.
There is a kitchen thread in my sign, you might want to use that as your starting point. Best way to edit a ROM is to grab a kitchen (or learn how to dump) and add your own OEM packages.
All said, there is not straight forward manual for all this. It all comes by trial and error method, and also basic programing knowledge. Good luck!
Thank you.
Hi eveyrone.
Background: I have been playing with the new Manilla from XBMod, but in doing so I have had to change my ROM. Previously was on a DUtty v4 ROM which I loved as it was a simple clean and fast ROM.
Now compared to Dutty's all other so far are Bloated and/or slugish (even before I put the manilla2 on).
Anyway I decided to see what it takes to make my own. I looked into it and found a nice simple basic tutorial with video here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
Now this is really basic. I do need to learn a bit but I need some help in finding some information. Little things like how to edit the registry or how to change the boot image. Also need to find all the updated HTC apps, and a list of what HTC apps are available and/or ported.
Before someone tells me to use search or "google is your friend" I know that.
I can find out what each package does before I remove them and such. I can also find out how to do allot of these things too, but if you actually use the search also then you will find nearly everything is based on modifying an already installed ROM and not doing it in the Kitchen.
On top of all this I doubt I am the only person looking for a clean fast ROM so I will be releasing this to everyone. I would appreciate any suggestions for what to include and what registry edits to do. And would really appreciate a master chef coming by and helping a new apprentice chef.
Much appreciated for anyones help. (Remember I havn't asked for others to do it, I am asking for some help to learn it.) Lets just hope I don't burn anything...... .
Nothing?
No one wants a Simple Light Upto date ROM??
Kinda funny isn't it.
If I just waited around and asked who had what and all that, I would be flamed to a crisp and get told to read and use search. Just so you know I just used search for "OEM HTC" and got NOTHING.
I have been using the forums for about 6 months now and now I have decided to put my little bit of effort in, no one is interested in helping...
I always say that I only help those whom help themselves. I have and am currently helping myself, but I do need a little hand mainly to point me in the right direction.
Anyone?
Doesn't anyone want a simple ROM that is mearly a set of performance tweaks and updated OS and Updated Default HTC Apps?
Here's you answer - download one of teh full kitchens available (like Sulliers or Mondilv) and make it yourself.
Other way - download latest OEM rom (there's thread for that), ervius kitchen, and cut away to your liking - you will have your "latest light rom".
This is exactly what it is about. Either be ready and donate to the chefs who do such things (cook for demand for payment) or get behind the keyboard and start cooking. it's not that difficult...
This is how I started - got the kitchen, and step by step I go forward. I can't call myself a cook - I only know how to tweak a bit little things, but I'm learning. I suggest you start too
If you are searching for "clean, fast ROM" look no further than Mondilv's kitchen - probably the fastest Rom available now (if we are to trust Pietrucci's benchmarks, and I see no reason why not). Since it;s a kitchen you can do whatever you want to it. And if you are asking "how to edit registry" then maybe your searching skills aren't that good... This like the most basic thing....
Happy cooking!
Good to see people actually read.
At no point did I ask for a ROM. I do recall mentioning that I have downloaded a kitchen and am playing with it.
I did mention that I have searched and my skills in searching are perfectly fine. Considering that fact that I have found the registry information but NOT in XDA.
THe problem with XDA is that if you are to be succesfull in a search you must already know what you want to find (and therefore know the terminology to search for) which then means why search at all seeing you already know. And if you happen to find something you have to read the thread for a week to find the only single post within it that actually gives you an answer.
If you had read my first post properlly and understood it, you would realise I am after information TOO LEARN IT...... but maybe I'll take your suggestion and LEARN it instead.
It really pisses me off when people reply withou fully reading the post, and then tells me exactly what I said I am doing.
For all you know I could be a potential contributer to these threads and you have just destroyed my respect for the people on these threads. Thankyou for your lack of any real help.
Oh and one last thing, I was wrong with the last bit of my first post.
If I ask for the ROM I get flamed, If I ask for help to learn to build a ROM I get told to make a ROM or download one.
Catch 22 around here. Can't ask for help and can't get help. I wanted to build one but if this is the **** I am going to cop just cause I want to learn something and contribute, then its not worth jack ****.
And who are you to say if I have or havn't donated to other ROM Builders.
I would love to try your basic clean ROM, without all the pre installed applications. I have been looking for an up to date naked ROM, but haven't been able to find one.
Good Luck!!!
Well my intention is not a "Naked ROM" but a bare essentials one.
Just updated versions of all the apps that come with a HTC ROM and update OS Core, .NET etc.
Bare Minimum Apps.
good luck man. hope its super fast too.. and stable.
Can someone please point me to an UPDATED list of HTC OEM App Version and hopefully downloads.
I don't mind Ripped stuff, like from TouchFlo2 etc, but I want to leave out beta buggy stuff untill they are are fixed. For example I would want HTC Notifications as it seems to work well (unless I am just lucky) but I won't put in the TouchFlo3D 2 as it is still buggy and unstable.
Oh and VGA versions if possible for my Touch Diamond
Oh and were can I find a 21xxx+ version ROM that I can use?
Hmm, so I want to help, and the best you can do is smirk at my recommendations, and you just carry on:
can you point me here, can I have that or this, and oh, can it be VGA, and possibly with chocolate?
Man, I'm sorry, but there is something wrong. All the info you are looking for IS on this forum. I can't believe that you searched and didn't found. You either search the diamond forum, or use general forum search (which is google) and you just follow the links.
I don't want to belittle you nor argue with you. But just take a second and look at the way how ALL internet forums work. The first thing you do to gain credibility on any forum is to search, learn, then try to help. The last thing you do is to show up, and ask for links "on a platter" in rather demanding manner, and then criticize the answer. I just had a look on your posts and it seems that this is what you do. You repeatedly ask for ready solutions, and when people tell you to search, you are annoyed, or ask "does anybody read posts on this forum?"
I will say just this - google "netiquette" or "how to behave on internet forums".
Good luck in your search for perfect ROM for you.
And here you go not providing any form of help at all.
You say If I did search I searched the Diamond threads or used the Google search..
I have used the google one yes. And I have used the built in search searching for DIamond threads yes.
Now you imply that searching the Diamond is wrong??? I am own a Diamond so why not search the diamond threads.
This is exactly what I am talking about regarding the useless comments of "search the forums" crap I keep reading against any noob.
Instead of pointing people in the right direction you guys just simple say search.
There also seems a limit of more than 3 letter word length to search in the forum search. Cause each time I search OEM or HTC or HTC OEM then it returns No results.
Ontop of all that if and only IF I do actually find something then I have to spend hopurs upon hours readying all the Good job, well done comments before I find the one tiny little comment that actually has the answer. At that rate, for a noob trying his hand at cooking it would take 6 Months to actually find all the answers.
And now you come back and tell me to search, and worst still you tell me that searching for Diamond Rom Development info in the Diamond forums is wrong also. Were was the part that told me were to search?
it seems quite some posts are missing here... xda-developers did a restore from a backup or something after the mess last night? .
Anyway, eangulus. This is what I have so far:
- Started with a stock 2.03 WWE ROM.
- Put in a 21042 SYS + XIP (so it's now 21042 build)
- After that ripped out some stuff:
- NetCF (because it's 2.0 now I installed 3.5 from CAB, we need the OEM for it)
- Manilla
- Opera (I guess we want a newer build)
I also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup' list
- Windows Live
- MP3 Trimmer
- RSS Hub
- AdobePDF
- Cyberon VoiceSpeed dial
- Google Maps (Because we want a newer build or nothing at all)
Also needed to remove it from the 'auto setup list'
- JBedJava
- ZIP
- Office OneNote
- SampleMusic
- SQLCeMobile (Leave the SQLCE engine in)
- Transcriber
The whole thing build nicely, the final .nbh is 86.5mb.
There are a lot of things that can be stripped more ofcourse, and it doesn't have
any 'tweaks' included yet. Stuff I still gotta learn / try out.
Also converting cabs to oem/packages is on the agenda , and see what is easy from
the rhodium / topaz oems to include.
After the flashing and first boot I installed the older STock keyboard (bigger T9) because I still prefer it, installed newer google maps and installed the latest Rhodium Manilla from xboxmod. Runs fine and speedy (still can be faster by cooking it in though).
The notification enhancement works by installed a certain cab afterwards (not the one included in Rhodium Manilla), but Menu Enhancement and the 'manilla start menu' won't work.
My 21038 build that I was working with in the beginning seems just broken or something, because the 21042 XIP/SYS I used worked flawlessy. So I was doing it ok all along, just had broken files .
So, what now from here?
To get you a bit started:
In the end I used bebe's kitchen (http://www.darkforcesteam.com/showthread.php?p=3560). You need to create a user on that forum and wait till they 'approve' you to access the thread though.
In the thread there are a couple of video's posted how to get you started. I watched them, understood them and then started cooking and it worked . I don't know if bepe wants his files freely posted everywhere so I'll let you to get them yourself.
The ROM I used I actually downloaded from the HTC site (http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=2&dl_id=483). Entered my serial number and got the .exe with the ROM (the ruu_signed.nbh can be extracted by using WinRAR from the .exe).
The XIP/SYS I used are from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497586
Bepe's kitchen works with a OS.nb files (not .nbh files) so I used NBHUtil to extract it from the .NBH. NBHUtil was included in another kitchen, I got it from there. The kitchen it was included is actually an 'extended' bepe-kitchen, so you might want to play around with that one too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420.
But in the end, I only used NBHUtil.exe from it .
In his video on how to port a newer build to your kitchen, he uses a complete newer ROM as a starting point. He extracts the XIP/SYS from that. If you do it like me, you don't have a complete newer ROM but only a XIP/SYS downloaded from this forum. They give you a os.nb.payload and a SYS folder. So you skip the part that extract those from a ROM and just instead use the files downloaded.
And that's pretty much it. With those files and the (short!) video tutorial's on Bepe's thread in darkforcesteam.com I managed it make something. (video on starting a kitchen from a ROM, and a video on how to port the XIP/SYS from another ROM to your kitchen). Try it, if you get stuck I'll help you. It isn't hard at all!
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delete your ntcf forlder in sys and replace with this one
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I actually have it already but thanks for helping out!
Trying out bebe's kitchen and trying an Upgraded OS build as we speak. Not as friendly as some of the other kitchens but with the vid's it is pretty straight forward thou.
Any luck in finding an updated list of HTC OEM Version Numbers and exactly what HTC OEM apps are available for us to package into it?
Im not going to do the manilla yet as I think its still a fraction too buggy. THe main one being atm is being out by 1 hour.
Once its much more stable and bug free then I'll package it. I do want the new notifications and menus thou. they seem to be workig OK.
ALso not sure if this is a HTC app or not but I have seen a new Wifi connection tool. It gives you a list of Wifi available in a Manilla Look, you then just click on one to connect. Do you know what that is called and who does that?
Also do I have to convert the .nb file to a .nbh again?
I have a T-Mobile HTC Touch Pro 2. I would like to upgrade this phone to use one of the good operating systems from on these forums and would like to add Android to my phone. However, I have no idea what to do or where to get the correct files that are working.
If someone could help me with what I must do to achieve what I am trying to get done I would appreciate it. I need both instructions and files.
Scott Gleaton
For windows http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
For Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997
And my other advice is to read everything you can
Links in the post above tell you most of what you need to know.
You will need to HardSPL before you can flash a new ROM. This is mentioned and linked in the "Flashing for Noobs" thread linked above. But here it is also: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
I also recommend running Task29 after you HardSPL and before flashing any ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
Not fully mandatory, but Task29 formats the phones whole memory, so there is no chance of fragments of the old ROM to mess up the new one.
What ROM is best depend on the individual user. Each cook includes different apps, looks and functionality in their ROMs. So look thru the different ROMs, and pick on that suits you. If you are still at a loss, I personally like the Energy ROM. This guys is very reputable for stable, fast, and aesthetic ROMs. I doubt you would be disappointed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
Just read all the instructions carefully before you flash, plus the FAQs on each page, and (at least) the last couple pages of the threads. This will often clue you in to the common issues some people have, and how to solve them.
Project Android for the TP2 is not a full ROM, but is nice because you install on your MicroSD card and boot it from Windows Mobile. WM gets unloaded, and Android is loaded. To get back to WM, you just soft reset. Its not perfect, there are still plenty of bugs (no sound, no Bluetooth, some apps crash or lag). But its pretty functional, and lets you mess around and explore Android, check out the app store and play some of the games, etc. Highly recommended to try it out, if you are curious about Android (and who isn't?).
i new to this stuff but im want to install the energy rom 4 tilt 2 and i jus wanna know if everything still work fine like all functions of keyboard and the icons and if it run sluggish thxs
NRG has included in his ROM a Carrier Provisioning tool. After you flash the ROM, just start the tool, select ATT and the keyboard is automatically configured to ATT's layout, and any other settings which are needed to work on ATT's network. Its super slick, and worked perfectly on my Tilt2.
The Energy ROMs are much better than the stock ROM. Less program memory usage, faster, and more stable. Also, no bloatware, great cooked-in apps, and awesome functionality and looks.
There is still some lag, which is just the way it is with Windows Mobile. But its much better with the Energy ROM. And if you want it even smoother than use the Titanium version. Personally, I use the GTX version, b/c I'm a sucker for eye candy.
thx
can you tell me where i can get one that works so i dont brick my phone please. and i also saw one on youtube with a moving background screen it was like thunder and clouds. its so cool is that the energy rom and where do i get the keboard rom that configures my keboard thanks very much
Yoiu might try the ROM Development subforum, where this question should have been posted.
Yeah, there is a whole sub forum on here which contains all the ROMs you will ever need, tools to flash, instructions, etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
The thread sticky-ed to the top of that forum are extremely useful. The following guide for flashing a ROM is a MUST READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Also, you will need to HardSPL your phone before you can flash a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
And I highly recommend running Task29 after you HardSPL, and before flashing a new ROM to completely wipe the memory, which will prevent any fragments of the old ROM from interferring with the new ROM (which can sometimes cause random bugs):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191
Read through the first part of the above threads, and at least the last couple pages of each one, too (to say what common or recent issues may have popped up, what problems people have, etc.).
Read and understand all the instructions, and follow them carefully, and you will not brick your phone. It seems intimidating and complicated at first, but its not really that hard (and you will be addicted!). Just prepare properly before you start!
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i also saw one on youtube with a moving background screen it was like thunder and clouds. its so cool is that the energy rom and where do i get the keboard rom that configures my keboard thanks very much
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That is the weather tab on Sense 2.5 (HTC's interface for Windows Mobile, an updated version of Touch FLO 3D, which your ATT Tilt 2 has on it). Any ROM with Sense 2.5 will have that. It is included on all the Energy ROM versions (except the Titanium versions, which does not have Sense).
As I already mentioned, the Energy ROM already contains the Carrier Provisioning Tool which will configure the keyboard. You don't have to download anything extra to configure the keyboard. If Energy ROM is what you want, then here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
can u please tell me step by step how to flash it i want the same one you have
Dude, flashing ROMs is something you shouldn't attempt unless you know how to do it. There is tons of info in the ROM Development subforum on the procedure. The procedure is different depending on whether it is an authorized or a cooked ROM. Spend some time reading up on the procedure instead of just asking questions in the wrong subforum.
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can u please tell me step by step how to flash it i want the same one you have
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Did you read the guides I linked to? The one is called "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium Rom (For Noobs)"! The name kinda says it all. Its VERY step-by-step, and meant to be very simple, straight-forward and idiot-proof. The author put lots of work into these instructions, and did a great job. Use it!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
Just download the ROM you want, and follow the noob instructions. Its pretty simple.
But as I said earlier, its a very good idea to read through all the stickied guides I linked, and browse some through the threads (particularly the last few pages). Random glitches sometimes popup. Glitches that other people encountered and found solutions to. So it can save you a lot of headaches (and anxiety) if/when something random happens during a flash.