Hi
I've written an event driven driver that uses a combination of SimMgr, RAS and TAPI to enable GPRS and GSM calls on a closed PPC system (no Windows shell running). This works perfectly OK on the original XDA.
The problem on the XDA 2 is that I cannot make or receive data calls, but voice calls and GPRS work fine. I'm setting the PhoneExtendFunction registry key data to the relevant values (v.110, ISDN line) and setting the LINECALLPARAMS struture to use data calls before being passed to the lineMakeCall() function.
The call is dialed and an 'OK' async message comes back from the TAPI layer. Immediately following this is a 'call disconnected' message and an 'unreachable' error code is returned. The dialed data line is valid and has been checked uing the original XDA.
Does anyone have any ideas on what is causing this? It looks like something else needs to be setup but I don't know what. The only conclusion I have come to the that there must be a minor difference between how the orginal XDA handled data calls and how the XDA 2 one does. Data calls do work when tried under the Windows shell.
Any help would be much appreciated.
I had exactly the same problem....on GSM data calls, TAPI returned an error on dialing/receiving GSM data calls (LINEDISCONNECTMODE_UNREACHABLE).
To cure this problem, you will require a ROM CE/Ext/Radio Stack upgrade.
I have an MDA C3. When web & walk is transferring internet Data and a call comes in, the phone does not ring. It goes directly to the voicemail.
T-Mobile customer service tell me that this is correct as you can either transfer internet data or make a call.
Is that right? I thought that was with WAP which is analagous to dial-up. Surely GPRS is analagous to Broadband.
Anyone else want to try this:
Go to Web & walk home page. Attempt loading up the guardian page (This will take a while). Whilst this is loading, call your phone number and see if it rings or goes direct to VM.
I spend lots of time browsing so I must be losing lots of calls!
Feedback greatly appreciated.
From what I have heard only UMTS devices can support simultaneous voice/data.
Yes - but not GRPS that uses GSM band instead of UMTS.
However, some devices have troubles keeping the data link active when a call comes in.
I am having the same issue (also on T-Mobile UK).
Then IE is running or AS is downloading my mail (I use direct push) all my calls go straight to voicemail.
This is worrying as I just moved over to T-Mobile for the web n walk package to allow me to have instant e-mails. This is a pain if it means I miss calls whilst my mail is downloading.
You'd think that the chances of the 2 coinciding are slim (I don't get a lot of mail, maybe 10 per day) but the wife has already complained 3 times since Friday that she went straight to voicemail, and each time it was exactly as i got a new mail.
Is this a limit of GPRS, the Orbit or just T-Mobile?
Thanks
Dae
I was surprised too... Thats why I posted the query. I thought my phone and/or SIm were faulty. But T-Mobile tell me thats how its supposed to work.
With W&W and Email, Its really hard for someone to get through with a voice call. It was worrying for me as I tend to browse the net whenever I am waiting around. This means that when I am on the bus surfing, no one can get through to me!!
Surely if there is a limitation, then the phone should give precendence to the Voice call. After all, you can pick up your emails or surfing where you left off.
I would really be interested to see if this is a T-Mobile only problem.
No itschase is spot on.
It's not a t-Mobile problem, it's the same for any GSM based network.
Only 3g (UMTS) phones can do data and voice at the same time. No matter what network you are on.
I have just run an experiment in the office as follows:-
Me (artemis with v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when data active
person 1 (MDA compact III - v3 black and blue) - Voicemail when active
person 2 (hermes) - no Voicemail when active.
We are all on t-mobile UK, and therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
daesimps said:
therefore it doesn't look like a network issue, but maybe a ROM problem?
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What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
Gajet said:
What problem? Everything is working as it supposed to. If it's so important to you. Go buy a 3g phone!
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I incorrectly assumed that whilst browsing, if a voice call comes in, the phone would give priority to the call.
If I had known what I know now at the time I signed my 18M contract I would have bought a 3g Phone! Its just annoying that i'm stuck with it for another 12M. T-Mobile push the fact that they have set the internet free... but what they fail to get across to everyday users is that its "AT THE EXPENSE OF THE VOICE CALLS"
Because T-Mobile forced you to buy one of their 2.5g phones rather than one of their 3g phones?
I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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I have no problem receiving phone calls while browsing the internet on the P3300.
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Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
Gajet said:
Neither have I to be honest, the issue only arises while you are actively downloading data. However once the website has loaded, you are free to accept calls again whilst still looking at the site in the browser.
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
daesimps said:
I now fully appreciate that 3g phones are the only ones to support this type of behaviour.
I was trying to be helpful and post the results of my test as at that point I didn't realise that only 3g phones worked as such. I was lead to believe this by wikipedia:-
"Class B
Can be connected to GPRS service and GSM service (voice, SMS), but using only one or the other at a given time. During GSM service (voice call or SMS), GPRS service is suspended, and then resumed automatically after the GSM service (voice call or SMS) has concluded. Most GPRS mobile devices are Class B. "
Obviously this is not the case.
Bring on the HTC Kaiser!!!
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Hi,
It's not enough to have a class A (2G) device, but also DTM (Dual Transfer Mode/Simple Class A) support has to be active in the specific network, otherwise only 3G device on 3G network will provide Class A (simultaneous voice & data).
In fact, there are quite many models from Nokia during last year that support DTM, but as already mentioned, it's not enough.
FYI,
Zohar
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As a test I started downloading a dummy 32MB testfile on my P3300 (from speedtest.bbned.nl) and I called my mobile with another phone.
There was no problem; I received the call while downloading the file.
Maybe it depends on the operator? I am in Holland on T-Mobile
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Is that an EDGE network ?
I got the Artemis with PV Black&Blue v3 ROM.
I can receive calls while pages are loading in IE.
I think this is a provider problem.
The phone provider has to intercept your GPRS connection and establish the GSM connection. Maybe T-Mobile just rejects calls while a GPRS connection/transfer is active.
A1 intercepts the page download and my call comes in.
When I pick up, the GPRS connection is closed completely. (not just pending)
So receiving calls while surfing is no problem for me with Austrian A1 provider.
Any other experiences?
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Is that an EDGE network ?
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no, just gprs; no edge.
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no, just gprs; no edge.
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...then it's no way you'll get simultaneous voice and data (class a).
Hi Guys tried this out today rand a contact on mobile and then the other contact on their mobile
I could switch between which would put them on hold etc, but i could not connect the calls together for the conference call, came up with unable to connect the calls or something like that so had to keep switching between them all the time
What am i doing wrong or can i not perform conference calls to mobile phones?
I set it all up properly through the switch on the dialing screen etc
the mobile carrier also needs to support confrencing...
Ok thanks for that i have rang Vodafone and they have said they will enable it and no charge for doing so
Thanks for your help
hi,
I am using reliance cdma connection with HTC One V.. I have observed that when data connection is active, i am not getting any incoming calls. Callers get only a busy tone.
For me calls are important than data. How do i change this?
Thanks
i think its a network problem ask reliance customer care
Hello, I bought an S7A on eBay. I unlocked it with the GSM unlock code provided. Everything works fine, except ... I can't make or receive calls. When I make a call, no ringing tone, and it hangs up 20 seconds later. When someone calls me, the same, then they come across my answering machine.
I'm on the latest version of Oero available, no root or whatever. From what I saw (on GSMArena), the phone uses compatible frequencies in France.
I am at carrier Bouygues Teelcom.
You have any ideas ? Thank you !
PS: I translate from French, please be indulgent!
Same problem, this phone does not work in China
Since then I have understood the real problem: the phone cannot switch from the 4G network to the 2G network for calls on its own.
I don't know how I did it, but now I can make calls without any problem, but switching to 2G is very long (15 s).
I specify that it is impossible to use VoLTE to circumvent this problem.
For receiving calls, the phone does not switch to 2G and the incoming call still fails.
But I can force the 2G network (With the Samsung Band Selection app). And there, incoming calls work, but we only have 2G to surf.
When connected to WIFI, the phone automatically forces the mobile network to 2G, so incoming calls work without the application mentioned before.